Ortho4XP 1.30 | How to get PERFECT RUNWAY SLOPES in X-Plane 11 [Tutorial]

[@brentnorman6848]

thank you very much for putting these videos together. Your explanations are easy to understand and I have been using your guides to make my Xplane look so much better!

[@mikem.3412]

Very helpful. But then, you always seem to be very helpful. I'll bet you'd be a fantastic friend to have in real life as well as in sim life. Thanks!

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Yes that would be awesome :) Thanks Mike!

[@erickflightair8714]

Fantastic video SCD and of course Thank you. I am very lucky to have found your videos

[@rickweinstein5207]

Thanks so much for this info. My home airport is KFMN (Farmington, New Mexico, USA) and this scenery always had too steep of drop off at the end of the runways (like your example airport). Your tips cured this issue. Thanks again!!!

[@JoJayO]

big thanks goes out. since specially your videos of how making orthos, i am able to make nice orthos :D thanks a lot lot lot my friend

[@logicuk8562]

Thanks for the video. Some of my tiles have been bugging me for a while with unrealistic contours. Will try this method and hopefully all will be great! Thanks again

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Well I hope that this method will smooth things out for you, at least that's what it did for me :) Thanks for watching!

[@Jimbo-in-Thailand]

Another great tip! 👍 Just subscribed. 😁😄😊

[@flightsimactu7700]

Thank you for this good explanation !!

[@apogaeum4313]

Manches ist sooo einfach - wenn man es weiß, wie es geht. Danke!!

[@effem65]

Wieder ein klasse Video. Danke für die Tipps!!!

[@pasiheinonen7708]

Yes. Amazing info. Subscribed. Thank you!

[@armazemdehistorias]

Well explained! Direct! Congratulations.

[@jackdemy1744]

Excellent Tuto. Can this tips also correct the fact that the tiles rendering produced by OrthoXP, when flying at low altitude or from the ground, does not give relief to buildings and other contructions. Every 'object' is flat except airport area where everything is ok. Thanks for your help.

[@GunniesLetsFlyVFR]

Great information. Thanks for making this video.

[@chrisgard4076]

yes fantastic video could you make a video on all the options in the setting page explaining what they do and how to use them eg : road_level , road_ banking_limit etc

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

I would like to do it, but also I don't fully understand every single one of those settings lol ;) I didn't play around with them too much and overall I'm very happy with (most of) the default values.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Oh and by the way I played around a bit with exactly those road settings to fix the sloped road at EDDR airport, but it didn't make a difference, i.e. I couldn't fix it.

[@chrisgard4076]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe ok thanks btw did you notice that the OSM preview mode no longer works

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@chrisgard4076 No I didn't notice that, I'm always using the Bing preview (and very rarely Google) but thanks for the hint.

[@CristianCalhoun]

Ingenious! Thank you very much! :) (Y)

[@ICARitter]

Awesome info, thank you!

[@lukas_2004]

NA BITTE! :-) Ich hab so lange Probleme mit meinen Runways gehabt, danke!

[@Greazer]

Just tried this at KCRW, Great tweak.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

I'm glad that it improved your scenery :)

[@Greazer]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Good tweak mate.

[@karamich75]

Thanks for the useful video. To fix the road banking on the slope underneath the threshold you need to create a patch for the Airport with JOSM. This is what I am trying to do for my airport as well :)

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Oh wow another tool haha ;) I tried to fix it via the road settings of Ortho4XP but that doesn't seem to work. Thanks for the hint :)

[@karamich75]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe In fact you are lucky to have the right terrain elevation for that airport using the settings you mentioned. For mine, I have to go trial and error in JOSM to create elevation variations save it as .osm patch in the Patches folder of O4XP and compile the whole tile and test is in XP11. Then I tweak again in JOSM :) long process indeed

[@karamich75]

This is an example of a terrain patching process: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX7LgYKrZ991bK8

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@karamich75 Yeah that's a crazy amount of work. Unfortunately Ortho4XP can't always provide perfect renditions of every airport. If you do that hassle for your home airport I fully understand it though ;)

[@daveworkman2013]

Great vid..thanks for this...

[@captain_xavierof]

Hello friend, I'm trying to correct the mesh of an x-plane 12 airport, it's I'm using ortho4xp 1.40, it must have changed.

[@chrisevans-nodd]

Curious... why is the Build imagery/DSF step necessary?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

I guess because some .dsf files gets updated after the mesh has changed, it isn't about the image files in this case. I would definitely add this step, also since it should be the step that finishes the quickest ;)

[@chrisevans-nodd]

I see. Okay thank you, appreciate the great advice.

[@trofeo313]

Vielen Dank für den großartigen Tipp, funktioniert perfekt. Leider habe ich gerade mit der Aerosoft EDDS Scenery mit den Gebäuden und dem Zaun entlang der Autobahn ein Problem. Das Gelände fällt perfekt ab, nur bleiben eben die Gebäude mehr oder minder da wo sie sind und somit genau die ca. 30 Meter in der Luft. Hast du da einen Lösungsansatz was man da machen könnte. Vielen Dank für einen Denkanstoß

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Dass Gebäude und andere Objekte nach dem Deaktivieren der Flatten-Funktion etwas schweben können lässt sich manchmal leider nicht verhindern, allerdings sollte es nicht so krass sein wie in deinem Fall. Die Aerosoft EDDS Version ist sehr veraltet und die default Global Airports Version ist m.M.n. sehr viel besser. Ich würde die Aerosoft Version entfernen, dann müsste alles sehr viel besser aussehen ;)

[@trofeo313]

Danke für die Antwort. In der Tat ist mit der Standard scenery alles gar kein Problem hatte ich schon getestet. Die Aerosoft ist allerdings um einiges netter, finde den Flughafen und die Umgebung gut getroffen, schaut deutlich besser aus als die Hauseigene Variante. Werd ich mal einfach weiter testen.

[@rondeldebbio9219]

Great video! Thanks! I have one question. When I use the flatten command via WED customizing an airport by Areosoft (EDDF) some of the terminals don't follow the ground completely but are off the ground for the most part. One end may be just touching the ground. The runways look fantastic not being perfectly flat with some slight dips, etc.just like the real thing. I have tried some other custom airports LTBA, same result. Any fix or solution to this? Thanks again!

[@pilottim4411]

Very nice Video! Big thanks but I got one question: Is it possible to get realisitic mesh at Heliports? Christoph 13 (Rosenhöhe Hospital) has extreeemly unrealistic mesh but due to its not a Airport, I don't think, that it will work.. :/

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

You're welcome mate. Customising mesh in XP11 is close to impossible and it's also very hard to find high definition meshes besides HD/UHD mesh v4 by AlpilotX.

[@timebert1132]

Is there any possibility to create nice sloped runways in XP12? I want to modify Courchevel to have a more realistic runway but cant find a way other than very complicated mesh manipulation...

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Sorry I don't know, as I don't own XP12.

[@knivesout33]

Thank you so much for this!

[@ipodppp7088]

Once the Ortho4XP v1.30 is finished, it create the Tiles but do not create the overlays (which as they should be created within the Ortho4XP v1.30 folder itself), and correctly i put the Global Scenary address of xplane11, also use a Mesh, and nothing, just create the tiles, and these once put on xplane11 appear to me well , but without vegetation, buildings, or anything, just the terrain,,,, and this is because I believe that I lack to put the Overlays that should generate the Ortho4XP v1.30,,,, also i organize the scenarios in the register within Customs Scenarys and nothing,,, please you could help me to see how I can solve this problem, I have been 10 days and could not find the solution

[@bilbocrackers3246]

Thank you Sir!

[@gin1826]

Moin, du sach mal kriege low textures wenn ich die Pix Smoothing Option in Ortho4XP verwende, alles rund um den Airport hat hammer Ortho Texturen und z.b in EDDF ist alles "matschig" hab ich was falsch gemacht? Hab 1:1 alles aus deinen Tutorial befolgt. Die Textur die sich darüber legen soll also die xy.jpg sieht dabei aber gut aus, woran liegt das wohl?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Das ist merkwürdig, das Problem hatte ich noch nie. Vielleicht sind es "scenery orthos" die mit dem Flughafen mitgeliefert werden? Diese überschreiben nämlich die Ortho4XP orthos.

[@lukas_2004]

Mal eine Frage. Ist die Option 32 für die apt_smoothing Einstellung wirklich so gut? In chourchevel ist die runway durch die Einstellung viel zu flach. Aber mit der default setting von 8 ist zum Beispiel der Flughafen München oder auch Frankfurt viel zu bumpy.... kann man irgendwie die default airport elevation Settings bzw die mesh für ortho4xp verwenden (nur für die flughäfen)? Die default setting ist meiner Meinung nach die beste.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Naja, Courchevel ist ja auch ein sehr spezieller und außergewöhnlicher Flugplatz. Ich finde den Wert 32 schon sehr gut für alle "normalen" Flughäfen die ich bisher mit O4XP erstellt habe. Das Gute ist ja, dass man die Einstellungen pro Kachel variieren kann, also ist es kein Problem für die Courchevel Kachel den Wert 8 zu verwenden :) Gruß

[@lukas_2004]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe was ich halt komisch find ist dass ich auch schon content auf youtube gesehen habe in denen die default setting ohne Probleme verwendet werden konnte und das ohne bumpy runways. Ich suche jetzt schon seit Ewigkeiten eine Lösung....

[@jonhjfofs5959]

absolutely fantastic info well done & Thank you ! Can this be done with payware scenery as well ? I find many payware developers don't bother with Runways follows terrain contours. I see this as a major feature in X Plane !

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Yes, if you see that the payware airport is completely flat then you can disable the Flatten function via the apt.dat file just as I show in the video. Thanks a lot for watching :)

[@Vesper132]

Method works but sometimes there are problems with building's elevation. I tried that with Drzewiecki Design Polish Airports, EPRZ exactly and had some buildings and static vehicles in ground or floating. I'm not quite sure if there is solution to that yet.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@Vesper132 Yes that's a problem when payware developers decide to place their custom buildings and stuff with the flatten option enabled. I'm afraid there isn't an easy way to fix this. Default airport buildings always get placed on the ground though.

[@Vesper132]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe yep that's the case. I will probably try to play with WED and see if this could be fixed. Anyway still with your settings we achieved great and realistic results so I will probably stick with them ;-)

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@Vesper132 Thanks! I guess many payware developers are too lazy to develop their airports for XP11 with sloped elevations. When they set it to flat, I guess they can pretty much just import their FSX/P3D sceneries and maybe convert some things ;)

[@Thrust-Set-Simulations]

Have you experimented with the higher zl airports setting set to True yet? I wonder if this does the job of higher zoom levels around airports part of this process automatically. Any thoughts?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

I noticed that setting as well, but I didn't try it out yet. I don't know if it would deliver good results. I prefer setting up the higher ZL zones myself :)

[@550stanley]

For the roads flattening on the hills, have you tried lowering "road_banking_limit" under "Vector data" in Ortho4XP? From the description it looks like exactly what you would use. The default is 0.5 meters, so that's quite a banking before it gets flattened. I haven't tried it yet as I haven't generated any scenery on the hilltops yet so can't say for sure.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks for the hint. Yes, indeed I played around a bit with the road settings, but after one mesh rebuild the road didn't change. I can't remember if I lowerd that banking_limit value lol. Maybe I will try it once again at some point :)

[@DarrellThompson47]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe You also need to set "road level" higher otherwise it will only cut into the mesh for major roads, 5 will do it for all roads.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@DarrellThompson47 I think I did set it to 2 to also include tertiary roads. I thought that would suffice lol. Thanks for the advice :)

[@Sam_R1]

How you are moving the camera like that? What plug in?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

It's just the default X-Plane camera. Tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKHOfWitg7iMqZY

[@Sam_R1]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Thanks a lot Bro

[@Sam_R1]

Bro There is a problem that In default camera while the aircraft turns to the left or right, the position of the camera not turning..

[@ellonysman]

Is your voice a professional attribute? You should sell your voice over to the tv medium/commercials...very trustworthy and knowledgeable...confident sounding ja!

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks for the kind words Rick, appreciate it :)

[@fifesimracerguy455]

What are your normal Ortho4xp settings ??

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Do you mean the ones I'm showing at 1:58?

[@fifesimracerguy455]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Yeah as i am not able to do one good ortho and to make it look as good as yours?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@fifesimracerguy455 Did you check out my Ortho4XP tutorial already? Maybe it will help... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXTOZX9qrbRkhsU

[@86abaile]

Well now I have a shit load of work to do. lol

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Haha I'm sorry 😋

[@Greazer]

You can use Notepad++ (free) -> Find in Files (*.cfg), replace: apt_smoothing_pix=8 with apt_smoothing_pix=32. Tick box: "In all sub-folders" to do everything.

[@rondeldebbio9219]

Great explanation. I am wondering how would you create underpasses and overpasses for bridges with taxiways like the ones at LFPG say for example. Would x plane 10 method such as (kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYSkkoZ8jphrgJo) work or is there another way? Thanks again!!

[@simpilotadamt1012]

First

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Yes indeed ;) Thanks for watching!

[@simpilotadamt1012]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Considering you are German, danke very much for making this video. I downloaded 222GB worth of ORTHO4XP (all of the UK and Ireland) and it would have been a shame if I was unable to fix the minor issue I had with the runway at EGKK (let's say that the runway had more bumps than it ought to have). Again, danke! EDIT: pardon my terrible half-German. I picked Spanish for my GCSE's, so I only know the bits of German from learning history ("mein führer")

[@rfs_realflightsimulatoratc7289]

Ich bin mir sehr sicher dass du ein Deutscher bist

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Ja das stimmt ;)