Deadly Euro Nymphing | How & Why You Should Learn

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Orvis Guide to Fly Fishing

Orvis Guide to Fly Fishing

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@johanhuter6746
@johanhuter6746 Жыл бұрын
this is very much like Tenkara fishing
@serhiymatviychuk6186
@serhiymatviychuk6186 4 ай бұрын
Hello, I’m a new for the fly fishing. I’m musician, play violin and viola. I’m originally from Ukraine. In Ukraine fly fishing is not popular, I would like to introduce fly fishing for the Ukrainians and I need a support. I will be very appreciated for any help and support in this. I just got my orvis combo, I’m very low on the budget, and don’t know what kind of flys I need to have. Will be very appreciated for any suggestions! Thank you so much for your understanding.
@serhiymatviychuk6186
@serhiymatviychuk6186 4 ай бұрын
I forgot to mention, I live in northern Delaware
@whpromo
@whpromo 6 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I've fished this method in the 70s and 80s on some NW rivers, never knew what is was called. Picked up some tips to make it more effective, thank you!
@ErwinDass
@ErwinDass Жыл бұрын
I noticed he doesn't keep his line 90 degrees vertical in the drift. When I fish the Alps with Italian guides, they insist this is the correct way.
@mrblueskynm3968
@mrblueskynm3968 Жыл бұрын
I started Euro Nymphing last summer and I'm amazed at how effective this method is. Last fall while rigging up at a public access point, I spoke to a fly fisherman who had returned to his vehicle. He said he tried everything and didn't get a hit. I asked if he had tried Euro nymphing and he said he hadn't. In years past I had also been skunked in this stretch of river. Needless to say, I caught a small brown on the first cast and continued catching wild browns on a regular basis for the next hour. I even caught the same 20" brown twice!
@ThatSB
@ThatSB Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the fish just turn on especially later in the day.
@jimbob4535
@jimbob4535 Жыл бұрын
W
@jimbob4535
@jimbob4535 Жыл бұрын
A,^,,,@@ThatSB ,;,,
@mikemcgeehan4321
@mikemcgeehan4321 Жыл бұрын
Very informative show. Learned a lot.
@IdeologieUK
@IdeologieUK Жыл бұрын
In Europe we call it Czech nymphing.
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy 8 ай бұрын
Much of this isnt exactly as they say. If you're indicator fishying the right way your nymphs stay at the same depth through most of the drift which can be as far as you can cast upstream and as far down stream as you're able to let them drift. With Euro nymphing you're getting drag towards yourself all the time unless you are fishing DIRECTLY under the tip of your rod. Physics rules here. Also you're greatly limited in your distance, I'd bet my life your drift at depth is about 15 feet right in front of you. your line is suspended by the tip of your rod creating a circular arch with everythign you do, and there is only so much line you can pull in, and let out to keep that nymph in a straight line. Also the tip of your rod is the extent of your reach, and as you point upstream and then move the tip of your rod down stream youre creating a 2nd arch, this one horizontal, the center of which is the shoulder of your rod hand. that arch will push the nymph away from you on the upstream and once directly in front of you and directly under the rod tip will then pull the nymph towards you following the arch of the rod tip and shoulder joint.
@garyrausch1184
@garyrausch1184 Жыл бұрын
Use to be called high sticking been doing it since the 70s
@repairdrive
@repairdrive Жыл бұрын
I actually GET it now. Nice vid!!
@Leyenda1
@Leyenda1 3 ай бұрын
Ummm...wasn't this called "high sticking" back in the day?
@tyshaver108
@tyshaver108 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on Tenkara Fishing?
@davidbrattain1446
@davidbrattain1446 Жыл бұрын
The best way to introduce someone to fly fishing. Especially, sub-surface.
@markobrien2264
@markobrien2264 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video, this the second time I have watched it and will probably watch again. Thank you
@orvisguidetoflyfishing
@orvisguidetoflyfishing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@johns2213
@johns2213 5 ай бұрын
I've been flyfishing for 50 years. I've always been interested in learning new methods and techniques to catch more and bigger fish. As I've gotten older I fish the way I find the most enjoyable, and that is casting, mending, and feeding a fly line. It is fly fishing at its core. I'm pretty liberal about what is flyfishing as long as a fly line is being used. I draw the line when a fly line is not part of the gig. Euronymphing can be done with ultralight spinning gear and therefore is not flyfishing in my book.
@mwkeith
@mwkeith 5 ай бұрын
Euronymphing, center pin reel float fishing for steelhead, Leisenring Lift nymphing, all improve the stable position of the fly in the water column. Each has us imagining the nymph in a dance from surface to bottom and waiting for a tiny take. Maybe even doing hook sets every five feet. I have watched a lot of fly fishermen do all of this. The more engaged and connected to the fly tension, the better is the experience.
@Johnny-dp5mu
@Johnny-dp5mu 9 ай бұрын
Tag ends catch air and greatly increase wind pull on your line. Solution in part is to clip those ends off on windy river conditions. Any float of line or indicator on the water will move a nymph at top water speed once equilibrium of line curve is reached. And to some extent even the tippet line is pulled by the upper current flow regardless of all the talk. However turbulence within the water flow from rock bottom to surface allows for erratic movement of objects flies nymphs etc. Hence the fish are fooled some of the time, which is fishing right?
@fancypants1
@fancypants1 Жыл бұрын
Prefer to fish a dry or attractor style fly with a wet/nymph/buzzer following it
@jeff9062
@jeff9062 Жыл бұрын
Does the dry fly work as an indicator?
@garretthalbach4830
@garretthalbach4830 Жыл бұрын
​@@jeff9062yep!
@andrewouimette5389
@andrewouimette5389 11 ай бұрын
@@jeff9062 this is dry dropping. Check out their other video on it. Has the same issues as a regular indicator and trying to mend it. EN is great when the water's high or the surface to bottom movement is very different, or is deep and hard to trop nymphs to
@GeorginaSwan
@GeorginaSwan 5 ай бұрын
This video was thorough and informative but the debate in the comments is elite 🍿
@TheRedneckjim
@TheRedneckjim Жыл бұрын
Praise Tom!
@Tjk186
@Tjk186 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video...thanks for sharing Tom/George
@juans3728
@juans3728 6 ай бұрын
Can I use the Nymph method in Saltwater
@davidbrattain1446
@davidbrattain1446 Жыл бұрын
Fish nymphs 90% of the time. I never use a strike indicator. They are not necessary and really a pain to manage with casts of any length. I've found that the swing is about as effective as a euro-nymphing technique. Depends upon the situation.
@ThatSB
@ThatSB Жыл бұрын
If you don't use a strike indicator, you are missing most of the substle fish strikes because most strikes are undetectable on the main line. They are also vital for keeping the nymph in the correct depth of water through the drift. The only time this doesnt apply is high sticking techniques like this
@steveg8322
@steveg8322 Жыл бұрын
A plastic bobber and a 1/64 crappie jig same result.
@steveg8322
@steveg8322 10 ай бұрын
Lee Wulff is spinning in his grave.⚰️
@steve735
@steve735 Жыл бұрын
In some ways it resemble Tenkara fishing.
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr Жыл бұрын
This is going to be a stupid question to anyone who’s a seasoned euro nympher… but how preposterous is it to use something like a 9’ 3wt with a standard leader for something like this? I’ve always kind of hated nymphing, LOATHE strike indicators and have long since noticed that my 9’ NRX 3wt is pretty sensitive (which makes sense since my bass fishing NRX stuff is the same way). This style of tight line nymphing might be the answer for someone like me…I just don’t want to buy a dedicated 10+ foot rod for something I’m still not 100% stoked about just yet. When overlined, that old NRX 3wt is the most versatile rod I’ve ever held…I just don’t know if it’s quite THIS versatile. I also have a newer 6wt…it’s just not quite as lively and small fly friendly.
@JohnRitson78
@JohnRitson78 Жыл бұрын
I would say that your 9' rod would still be more than enough, the only advantage of the heavier line weight would be to allow more casting distance especially in a breeze, followed by a little more control over the nymph due to the extra length. Other than that, you are doing it right. Remember, this is a show that wants you to go buy the biggest and best equipment!
@andrewouimette5389
@andrewouimette5389 11 ай бұрын
@@JohnRitson78 You can start off how I did, and buy a euro nymphing leader, like a 30'. That ensures you don't have fly line out, because it's too heavy and always pulls the mono back down the guides. Works well enough, and if you loop to loop, you can switch back pretty quick.
@Johnny-dp5mu
@Johnny-dp5mu 9 ай бұрын
The 3wt is likely plenty to learn... It certainly is challenging to control a larger fish: one pound bluegill, two pound smallmouth bass, 18"+ trout...in a river pulling upstream
@konalux06
@konalux06 3 ай бұрын
Most dedicated Euro nymphing rods are a 2 or 3wt so what you are missing is the added length for reach and maybe some stiffness in the butt section for fighting fish. I would go try with your 9' 3wt and if you love it, then decide if you want a dedicated EN rod.
@2ndchancegeorge
@2ndchancegeorge Жыл бұрын
This was the best explanation of the cast. At last I now know why I struggled so much with the cast. thankyou
@mdaley3102
@mdaley3102 Жыл бұрын
Very good video.
@jaymcgann6637
@jaymcgann6637 11 ай бұрын
I learned to bait fish from some real pros 70 years ago. They were guys who fished crawlers and spun minnows with fly rods in this manner. This is bait dunking. I know it is deadly. No thanks.
@shad3128
@shad3128 10 ай бұрын
Its fly fishing 😢🎉
@mythraider1
@mythraider1 Жыл бұрын
I just broke my rod today 😔, fishing in green lake Seattle. I saw the birds going after the bugs hatching, deduce there were some stock trout eating, was getting ready to set my rig......broke tip 😞my 4 year old cheap fly rod..
@dirktucker77
@dirktucker77 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome tutorial. Getting ready to buy my first fly setup, now I'm thinking about a nymph setup vs. The official 9'-5weight beginner set up.
@divoc1736
@divoc1736 Жыл бұрын
If your just starting out I suggest the 9'-5. You can throw all types of flies with that setup. Drys , streamers , you can nymph with it.
@andrewouimette5389
@andrewouimette5389 11 ай бұрын
@@divoc1736 Why does everyone recommend a 5 wt vs 4wt to start? 5 is like a tree trunk, and so much less feel than a 4, and unless you're trying to hurl 70+' (and have the back cast clearance for it) then why? I listened, started with a 5, and never pick it up after trying a 4wt. And my primary is the Farmington you see in the vid. There's just no space for a 5wt anywhere on it that you wouldn't have been better off with a 4wt 8'6" or 9
@Johnny-dp5mu
@Johnny-dp5mu 9 ай бұрын
​@@andrewouimette5389and the 4wt is more a tuned to the most common little darlings in the river. Agree. For some added excitement for to a 3wt...9 foot allows for small poppers for huge bluegill on ponds and lakes for fantastic fun and great eating --- a one pound bluegill will test your fishing skill. Beware of the line busting larger bass... Tight lines
@sakibbhat69
@sakibbhat69 Жыл бұрын
Can any tell me which fly patterns work best in April and may
@ethansmith9206
@ethansmith9206 Жыл бұрын
Rooster tail
@ericami5642
@ericami5642 Жыл бұрын
So many variables,get out there and flip some rocks take pictures or bring jars to keep samples and go home and tie something that matches it
@thetroutconjurer
@thetroutconjurer Жыл бұрын
Its effective, but boring. Its not for me.
@andrewouimette5389
@andrewouimette5389 11 ай бұрын
Says the guy with the only video being a tenkara. Same thing, less control. Try fast water and pockets where dry flies are never taken. Try smaller streams where you can't back cast
@divinghero9776
@divinghero9776 Жыл бұрын
If u are goin to fish this way, it's better to switch to lure fishing
@Thespanglerangler
@Thespanglerangler Жыл бұрын
Or just do what you like to do?
@jodypower4606
@jodypower4606 Жыл бұрын
Flies are lures
@insideandinbetween
@insideandinbetween Жыл бұрын
It’s about the the sport of it, not efficiency.
@peredavi
@peredavi Жыл бұрын
Oh. You don’t like Czech nymphing so it’s not okay. Right. Got it. 😂
@matthewwhite876
@matthewwhite876 Жыл бұрын
😂 what???
@canadiangemstones7636
@canadiangemstones7636 Жыл бұрын
If you remove all fun, grace, and skill from fly fishing, you have Euro nymphing. First used by poachers selling trout to restaurants, now popular amongst the lunatic fringe who pay to enter fly fishing competitions.
@matthewwhite876
@matthewwhite876 Жыл бұрын
😂 don't be mad because we clean runs you couldn't get a hit in.
@Tubiboob
@Tubiboob Жыл бұрын
Yeah, fishing under an indicator is much more fun, graceful, and skillful 😂.
@jpinnz2803
@jpinnz2803 10 ай бұрын
So well said.
@jpinnz2803
@jpinnz2803 10 ай бұрын
It is much more skilful- for a start you actually cast the line (not lob it), secondly there is the challenge of managing the line on the water. It should be banned on fly only waters.
@jpinnz2803
@jpinnz2803 10 ай бұрын
Why not go the whole hog and use bait? The essence of fishing is skill and challenge. This method cheapens our sport.
@echtesnorwegen
@echtesnorwegen Жыл бұрын
That is a bit shocking. I am pondering getting into fly fishing for brown trout, but much of what is shown here I can do much easier, better controlled and also cheaper with my UL spinning setup.
@jpinnz2803
@jpinnz2803 10 ай бұрын
You are quite right. This is not really fly fishing. There is no skill in presentation, in fact no casting at all. It’s a travesty to conflate euro nymphing and fly fishing.
@Johnny-dp5mu
@Johnny-dp5mu 9 ай бұрын
This a marketing video, notice almost no catching? You could use a cane pole that's 12 to 15 feet and nymph a tight line too...
@jpinnz2803
@jpinnz2803 10 ай бұрын
Respectfully, euro nymphing is not fly fishing. It ought to be banned on fly fishing only water.
@shad3128
@shad3128 5 ай бұрын
Its a fly, attached to a fly reel, fly line, tippet.... seems a lot like fly fishing to me
@Turtlesailor
@Turtlesailor 5 ай бұрын
In your humble opinion.
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