osu!mania's Most Notorious Cheaters

Every game has their professional players. But sometimes it might turn out that this player might be cheating, ruining the competition for others. When this boils down to osu!mania, you will see a lot of notorious cheaters slip through the cracks.
Sorry for uploading a bit late, I wanted to upload yesterday, but I had a rendering issue, and after I fixed it I quite literally barfed my insides due to food poisoning. Hope you forgive me....
HUGE thanks to ‪@Picooo_‬, ‪@hi1i2i67‬, ‪@bluestonegd4340‬(esp for the gameplay), ‪@synixosu‬and ‪@sunnyhttps‬ for scripting and to ‪@transcendence_nausicaa‬ and ‪@xXboleloXx‬ for providing some of the info used in the video.
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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Winther
2:40 - Wheatiee
4:25 - The January 8th Cheating Scandal
6:28 - Sel
8:18 - Outro
#osu #osumania #osugame

[@lonelyweeb03]

5k views in a day, sheesh, thank you for taking the time to watch it. It's not been a day and we already have updates on one of the sitations covered. 1. I was told by an anonymous person that joshstar has falsely accused wheatiee of cheating because according to that tip "he didn't like the guy" 2. Xuyis reached out to me and sent me a video of zodiac proving his legitimacy in a short stream. Here's the link, make of it what you will. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXbNnHShrq1-qqM (UPDATE: He privated the video) I will update this comment if I receive any other information about those cases

[@TheTeriSlaya]

Sel being a cheater honestly hurt me

[@lawyercat]

same

[@awesomeguysuncle]

@@lawyercatsame

[@lonelyweeb03]

for me it came from absolutrely nowhere and struck like a thunder. i contacted the etterna players too, but when i did ask them about this they told me that they couldn't give less of a shit about sel now that he cheated

[@hyacinth0001]

start doubting him when sel not uploading the score tbh

[@SillyFangirlosu]

when i saw sel tweet it really hurted me ç-ç btw your videos keeps getting better and better, keep going !!!

[@lonelyweeb03]

Man, it legitimately broke my heart in pieces when I found out that he was cheating, this man was a big inspiration for a massive portion of the community at his prime.... Also thanks for the compliment, I got something else in store too so be on the lookout!

[@ticyrbx]

3:39 I find it funny, that this graph has travelled further than it should've. At this time I was using a 125hz keyboard and I was going through the ranks incredibly fast, especially the Slovakian leaderboard. Because I was using this 125hz keyboard, the accuracy and frequency of hitting notes is more difficult. So someone from the Slovakia community tried to "expose" me with this graph for using 3rd party clients and/or any other cheats and allegedly sent it to numerous amount of players. Many of the people from our community have seen me play live and have confirmed that I could not have used any 3rd party clients. I have no idea why that person was praying for my downfall, but we have confirmed that he was using 3rd party clients himself, so it's pretty ironic. Still surprised it has travelled such distance.

[@lonelyweeb03]

Transcendence has stopped the distribution of the analyser just because of the issues I mentioned. If he ends up remaking it, then try to cheer him on until he completes a new version. Tho that story is funny, and I personally think the graph is more for comparing than exposing cheaters

[@ducky763]

xuyis was so funny he didnt bother hiding it either and then at one point his tiktok got hijacked by nigerians 😭

[@lonelyweeb03]

My man fell for the Nigerian prince scam I can't 😭😭😭

[@David-j9x]

The context for zoinks tweet is: spaceUK was a gd hacker that stole a lot of fame from other players including him👍

[@lonelyweeb03]

I was following the gd community when it happened, shit was absolutely wild

[@stickycondition]

the fact that zoink replied made me laughed so hard ngl

[@Super.........]

the 7/8th of january incident was wild

[@Super.........]

also i gave bolelo most of the proof about zodiac n all that

[@chenchen6150]

Technicaly there is 3 options out of desperation or frustation no matter how good you are at some game : 1. End up using cheat. 2. Burnout really fast, feels demotivated due to ever changing player skill set improvement rate like what happen to Adamqs case years ago. 3. Outright false report specific player out of spite or jealousy that the culprit finaly have big competition. I've heard many case in whatever game mode leaderboard farmer player in Osu! often getting attacked over how they play and worse case even fellow farmer false report other with a motive to remove competition.

[@sunnyhttps]

was an experience looking through the script of this video. wonderful execution of a video keep it up dude

[@lonelyweeb03]

That ain't gonna be the last script you'll be working on, that's for damn sure. Your input does help tremendously when we do that process

[@Kravenhino]

this guy only makes good videos, ily man

[@spitscool]

I used to talk with winther a few years ago, he was genuinely a really nice guy and made a massive comeback. glad you talked about him in a positive manner because he's an awesome guy!

[@lonelyweeb03]

Man, I honestly like those stories where disgraced players come and regain everything they've lost. Recently watched a video about such players in trackmania, and it feels very satisfying to learn that some of the cheaters started playing legit.

[@milesnoobkk]

That's a pretty cool video, i only watch people discover those cheaters because i don't understand that type of stuff lol

[@Softer64]

thank you for finally talking about this 🎉

[@lonelyweeb03]

Someone was bound to cover it one way or another

[@omniosu]

hai softer:33

[@1kfruit]

Great Video Lonely Zeta when :D

[@revokeww1465]

i just found out from this video about sel cheating 😭😭 thats actually crazy

[@scarmania884]

I bet sel could still possibly make his way back to mania and etterna if he started improving without cheats. Considering the fact that he basically turned himself in gives me hope for him. I'm really happy that he at least had the courage to do that.

[@lonelyweeb03]

you are right but he was already playing PIU at that point so it probably made more sense for him to move on to there instead

[@notdreamguy1244]

7:50 #2 top gd player now*

[@chillout8185]

sel was an inspiration for years and finding out he cheated hurts man

[@lonelyweeb03]

I feel ya, but he did cause a few players to push the game further, so there is a good tradeoff

[@caughtinthewebosu]

bit sad that you didnt mention my video where almost half of it was exclusively sel's scores, but still good vid

[@lonelyweeb03]

Oh, very sorry about that, shoulda taken a tad bit more time to edit

[@crznickname4989]

hey the first one showed in the first 10 seconds is my collab in osu!

[@lunalinkpser]

damn, sel was SpaceUS

[@AxelMuga]

there will always be cheaters in every game, no matter what it's about.

[@c33sar]

My goat, glorious, king, lord zodiac cheated so sad 💔

[@phagosaur]

another lonely banger 🗣

[@adrianoffr1492]

i love the vsrg community

[@xXboleloXx]

🎉

[@lowspec_s]

Polyriddin - mania elite (xuyis) vs crewk was so funny bro th fact xuyis himself requested that video to the creator of those osu mania player vs player comparison videos

[@lonelyweeb03]

Does anyone still have an archive of that video or is it still up

[@eerieeosu]

zodiac using my face as his pfp makes me angy

[@danthemathman1768]

😭

[@cowtheslice]

dawg nobody told me sel was a cheater 😢

[@FaisalOsu9]

Litch doesn’t deserve anything

[@maxim-miau]

ITS HEREEEE

[@lonelyweeb03]

we are so back 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@China_Fedora]

sel said his hardcore 1.2x play was od7 , he is mili's father 100%

[@lonelyweeb03]

Isn't od7 more lenient than, say 8 or 9?

[@kyionining]

💪💪

[@Jysqnn]

good video on covering cheaters tbh lowkey some people would cheat for attention and theres alot of reasons why people cheat in mania and games in general i generally avoid drama since ive had instances with it and it didnt go well. most people should be minding they're stuff while people with free time can find cheaters. just dont give them attention and do your own stuff. when sel said he cheated made me fucking cry bruh 😭 i was practicing a technique that was placebo ending note: mania community will be trash forever mostly. theres probably many players that really like causing drama for absolute no reason. when one horrible person gets exposed. there will be another one.

[@lonelyweeb03]

First off, thank you, and second off, I do agree with your statement. There are some cheaters that bait engagement with the videos and achievements tho. I remember when GD players had to deal with nickxd when he was cheating on death corridor. And the man was baiting hard with each video 💀💀💀

[@Jysqnn]

@@lonelyweeb03 yea lol i remember that

[@xe7j]

I knew wheatiee i even got to 1v1 him when he disappeared i didnt know why he didnt seem like a cheater i wanted to be as good as him kinda have mixed feelings

[@sk0b]

why censor the person at the start if you don't blur out the twitter handle 😭😭

[@lonelyweeb03]

tried to censor it but the blurring on sony vegas 16 is yucky and it ends up revealing the handle anyways. trust me, i tried to blur it but that's all i could do

[@sk0b]

its alr lol @@lonelyweeb03

[@abrokgamerbg]

the zoomed in gameplay sucks

[@-Poka-]

lmao I don't even know how to cheat on this game

[@god-me4rw]

what is the skin at 4:47? from the zodiac replay

[@lonelyweeb03]

i think it is similar to winther's arrow skin + an anime girl, don't have the link to it tho :(

[@SoliBusu]

Too thirsty

[@SoliBusu]

The January one was funny

[@ilovedurians02]

wow

[@baotan774]

hitting the gym didn't help gang

[@lonelyweeb03]

For me it does help, but you also gotta keep in mind when your muscles will recover

[@-7_7-]

W

[@PatoGotMotion]

🚬🚬🚬

[@antip0is0n]

Where is Gripwarrior xd

[@lonelyweeb03]

Jesus Christ I forgot about gripwarrior

[@Shaun58]

Skin?

[@ytrobby2799]

Litch was not a cheater. He didn't have access to his other account that he was "multi accounting" for almost a year and he even contacted OSU to delete the account but they didn't listen He only helped zodiac look legit just to clear his name and get away from zodiac

[@lonelyweeb03]

Doesn't matter if he had access or not, multiaccounting is still forbidden by osu's rules. When support hears about someone multiaccounting, they don't just ban one account, they ban both accounts. Also I still stand by what I said in the last part of that section. Also not everyone gets the right to have their account deleted, only top players and people from EU countries do due to the Right To Be Forgotten. Some other countries also have the right to be forgotten, but as far as I'm aware, the US doesn't.

[@ytrobby2799]

@@lonelyweeb03 wasnt trying to hate or anything (just saying) but litchs case was just stupid, the rest of them deserved the ban

[@lonelyweeb03]

Yeah it was stupid, but at the end of the day rules have to be followed

[@aafdsafdsfdsdfdfdfdf6955]

​@@lonelyweeb03bro what this vid aint abt multiaccounters its abt cheaters

[@Linkertoon374]

@@lonelyweeb03damn lonely your overreacting with the mult account ACTING like he did something on the account like getting into leaderboards or op record but he never did that and second litch was contacting osu support to remove the account but osu never replied or did anything to do something with the account

[@u-f-0]

you forgot basically all the chinese players in 4k, saragi, and like a bunch of other obvious cheaters

[@lonelyweeb03]

Don't be loser_otaku, pls...

[@femireok]

It's unfortunate that we have these cheaters. Especially the January 8th incident. Cheaters never prosper

[@lonelyweeb03]

There are also cases where cheaters steal records, precious time and accolades from the player that would have done their achievement first. It's a spark that can be hardly recreated again

[@femireok]

Yes this is very true.

[@lacxso]

i love my man xuyis

[@ninjaskull1001]

Babe wake up new lonelyweeb video dropped

[@kzorii]

Why didn't you put me in...

[@lonelyweeb03]

didn't you willingly cheat?

[@kzorii]

ofc not i wouldnt be seeking the attention i received from the allegations if i actually did it

[@lonelyweeb03]

I saw that you wanted to quit the game and be forgotten so I decided not to cover you in that video, hope that's enough good of a reason

[@coaltap3952]

that zoink comment was hilarious

[@lonelyweeb03]

I agree, I even replied to him asking when he gon play mania

[@Catcatman]

Dcinside is really bad community

[@bestxboxrhythmgameplayerrightn]

OH NO you guys caught me cheating btw the multi account has not been used in a year before it was banned so technically it was not used to advantages. Plus for multi accounting my Main account should've been silenced but no I've gotten mass reported causing me to be restricted. but its ok though osu is not my life anyway

[@lonelyweeb03]

Not tryna be defensive but a silver underlining of the multiaccounting rule is that support restricts both accounts of a player, not just one. I have not heard about anyone being silenced for multiaccounting yet. To quote that rule: > The first account you make during account registration is your one and only osu! account, from the moment of its creation and forevermore. This account is YOU. It is not anyone else - not your brother, your mother, your sister, your friend - it is YOU. Once players heard that you were multiaccounting, they probably had justification to report you.

[@kyionining]

@@lonelyweeb03u said litch was cheating with no evidence him multi accounting and playing on my account isn’t cheating🙀

[@lonelyweeb03]

my dude, the evidence was put right in front of your eyes, how tf do you miss that 😭 also fym him playing on your acc, bolelo made that statement

[@kyionining]

@@lonelyweeb03 so you are saying multi accounting is cheating?

[@bestxboxrhythmgameplayerrightn]

@@lonelyweeb03 just so that your aware i told support to remove the account the one that has not been used in 11 months, and they did not remove it since i cant delete the account myself.

[@nadavvvv]

I feel like sel isnt that big of a cheater. Like big deal he changed the od so he got a 95.43% instead of a 95.42%

[@lonelyweeb03]

It is a big deal, nadavv. Have you played on lower OD? It is quite literally more lenient to play on lower OD than what is the community standard

[@nadavvvv]

@@lonelyweeb03 yea but he is still nearly the same level as what I thought he was before that. This is like a 1% difference at best

[@lonelyweeb03]

It is not a 1% difference, I hope you've seen the leniency graph for each rhythm game

[@danthemathman1768]

@@nadavvvvI got eta 2.2 S rank on od0 omg I can 94 with od9 right

[@nadavvvv]

@@danthemathman1768 shit idk maybe? Maybe 93

[@zxergsfjkdhu]

whacked off to this video, FEELING BLESSED! hats off to you lonelyweeb03