Are Top Streamers Actually Cheating?

Ottr reveals the truth behind Streamer’s skills
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Have you seen the skill of Apex Legends Streamers like Aceu, IitzTimmy or Faide? Their skill can be so insane that it’s easily indistinguishable from game cheats and so a lot of people accuse them with Hackusations, but how many streamers and pros are actually cheating? Ottr dives deep to reveal the truth behind cheating accusations of streamers even some famous ones like Aceu. Is Aceu Cheating? Is IitzTimmy cheating? These the questions that Ottr has asked and tried to find cheating clips to identify whether they are true or not, but the story is not that simple..
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[@ducky3884]

i'm not saying all streamers cheat, but man some of them have to make you wonder. especially ones that don't really have prior esports/proplaying experience to explain where the skill came from.

[@ChizAndStuff]

Some are just life long gamers in their favorite genre. I’m 24 and started playing competitive shooters in 2006 but you have moments where you’re so locked in / “in the zone” / focused. I call them black out moments bc you’re so tunnel visioned on your screen and you’re not thinking about inputs you’re just reacting. Those moments are where a lot of players hit insane clips

[@javianbrown8627]

@@ChizAndStuff It's honestly the best feeling to be in the zone tbh. And on top of it some players just have an afinity for a certain type of game while others play a ton, or just make a ton of mistakes and learn from them. I've certainly seen players I was way better than suddenly eclipse me in skill not because they cheated but because they had what seemed to be a really reckless playstyle that got them into many inescapable situations but when they actually start playing smart they have the have insane combat skills from their time being reckless and situational awareness from seeing the same scenarios play out and even know where players will show up. I even experienced this in season 5 of Apex where I adopted a wraith like playstyle (now transfered that playstyle to My Wattson and Maggie)

[@ntia7047]

called practice

[@Killerbee_McTitties]

About 10 years ago when I was playing TF2 a lot I would regularly get kick voted out of games because I was fragging too hard. don't have that problem in apex...

[@bdubs3695]

I hate this take. I grinded 40+ hours a week in apex for 6 months. At the beginning I was OK, by the end I was competing with pros in every lobby just like everyone else. People are so afraid of hard work these days that they just want to say things can't be done . Put your head down and work for things. Work harder than everyone around you, and keep working. You will achieve success eventually. Stop just giving up

[@philosophyenjoyer]

So you're telling me that every sus flick I've seen from streamers should be brushed off as "high sensitivity"?

[@no5643]

Guy 360 spins and wingman’s a mirage 800m in a bush after taking out a 3rd party with one mag of r99…his defense “high sensitivity “. Riiight lol

[@zzzzzz-zv9ev]

No they just cheat all of them if i invest 10 milins in you you better win some games or you will be man whore for until you pay your debt you undrstand how it works like bank if you give $ you want it returned or you will disapire in many waya then just from streams

[@plasmabolt13]

A lot of the reasons for why the suspicious clips in the first half of the video are deemed not cheating just boil down to "they have a history of being good". But as anyone who has seen any speedrun cheating investigation videos, the most ppl that are likely to cheat are those who are already good at the game. I am not saying that those streamers are cheating, but "They are not currently banned" + "they have a history of being good" is not any form of vindication for suspicious clips.

[@IloveJellow]

I agree.. I have my moments were I am a god and then next day I am just in the gutter. I think myself as A good player however there is no way I could ever keep that up for too long it would explode my head from staring at a screen like that.

[@jason-qc5lr]

but it is a good determinator. its also sometimes the only determinator.

[@shleemlington699]

Cope more, your insecurities are showing

[@jason-qc5lr]

lol@@shleemlington699

[@williammartin9751]

It’s not just that they have a history of being good, it’s that they have a history of being able to do the stuff in the clip in situations where they are confirmed not cheating

[@Justsaiyan6666]

I don’t think top streamers cheat, but one thing I will say is that alot of streamers absolutely gate keep. For example, controller streamers won’t show their real config layouts, mnk streamers won’t tell if they’ve messed with the files to easily superglide in game. This is a real thing and I see it more often than not.

[@TravelingMooseMedia]

Why wouldn’t controller players show their configs? That’s not even cheating

[@ichthyostegaxd3727]

If MnK streamers won't tell you whether they have the superglide config then they have it. Taxi2g, R3kt, Gruic, Treeree, Font4yne etc. all actively deny it

[@SupahDoesTech]

@@ichthyostegaxd3727 which is strange, because what's wrong with a config file?

[@ichthyostegaxd3727]

@@SupahDoesTech This config makes it so your fps drop heavily when performing a superglide. Because you have to press crouch 1 frame after jump this becomes incredibly easy to the point that if you miss a superglide with the config file you should feel ashamed of yourself. This is very clearly cheating as superglides are advanced movement techniques and really hard to pull off nicely during fights. The fact that this is only possible by changing config files instead of something easily accessable like in game inputs like scroll wheel up for w making tap strafes easier (this is also works on controller just as easily) is what makes you gain the unfair advantage over others. I would argue this is as unfair as neo strafing (another config cheat making you strafe so quickly you're nearly unhittable with SMGs)

[@RabidChasebot]

@@ichthyostegaxd3727 If it can be done in a config, that means the devs allow it. Back in season 0 you could disable smoke, muzzle flash, and other particle effects using a config, it was very quickly patched out. They could do the same with not allowing fps_max to be bindable. They could remove fov switching for free zoom and neo strafing by disabling the exec command in the autoexec. Devs have done it in the past, and have even removed some audio-related config stuff recently that actually made audio decent, so they could easily do this if they thought it was an unfair advantage. Since they have not, it can only be assumed to be legal no matter what any of us actually think of it.

[@shinigami052]

I wish we could all see how many times we've been reported for different things.

[@demodic7221]

This reminds me of Battle Field 1 when EAs anti cheat banned thousands of players just because they’re good. Lost my account for a week because of it.

[@RabidChasebot]

How did aceu know how many reports he had? I would love to know if we could see how many reports we had along with how many times we've reported players and how many of those reports led to a ban

[@shinigami052]

@@RabidChasebot Probably because he's a big streamer/influencer he has contracts at Respawn who told him. They probably have those stats for everyone just never make it public and there's no way for us to know.

[@RabidChasebot]

@@shinigami052 i know through EA profile settings you can download your user data. Not sure if that would include reports though. If it's only accessible through nepotism then that's really disappointing

[@nathanbabble1976]

I was thinking the same thing. How do you find that out? Other then knowing a guy who works at the company.

[@treesin2199]

CoD has so many streaming cheaters that it's affecting other games trust in streamers.

[@xDragonce]

Almost every day on tiktok I see someone streaming warzone with hacks. I wish somehow someone could make an anti-cheat that could detect hacks accurately and quickly, allowing cheaters to be banned before getting to ruin others fun.

[@bayridgebull1221]

@@xDragonce and they get banned in a few games?? You can’t keep the same account for more than an hour

[@monkeytown1239]

would be helpful if activision would stop rewarding them

[@bayridgebull1221]

@@monkeytown1239 activison doesn’t reward cheaters

[@teammo959]

@@bayridgebull1221 low iq ape

[@average-7693]

soft aim is the scariest thing u can never guess who's cheating Unless a real detective can analyze the vods of the person you are suspecting

[@JoeBlue99]

You can tell..

[@Highskill3r]

@@JoeBlue99 not always!

[@majormarketing6552]

Most players are beyond bad. But all of a sudden everyone can shoot like a bot. You can tell

[@lamp6909]

Studzy was pretty smart, instead of denying it and making it worse for himself, he chose to cause commotion instead

[@defeatSpace]

better for business 😏

[@wasd3108]

many do that, they meme about it ;D that's why 2 got banned recently and people talk about how it was a hacker, but I bet my bls that it's a private cheat creator exposing them live

[@snakerunner4]

This dudes entire "debunk" for the cheats is just "they have a high mouse sensitivity" If the streamer has never done a hand cam or competed in LAN events but still shreds they're possibly cheating. BackOffmyJankz is a good example of someone most likely cheating, has no recoil on controller and says it's all recoil pattern memorization but also never competes in LAN tournaments or done a handcam. Most likely has a strikepack to fight recoil.

[@tokyomorning7951]

you dont have to be a pro to be good at a game

[@tokyomorning7951]

nate gibson hasnt played any lans that i know of and he is extraordinarily good at shooters

[@threesixn1ne]

forget it man, copium is everywhere and most ppl dont even know how aim-assist soft works lol its like explaining combustion engines to a caveman

[@Spooder050]

Bro ive been watching jankz for over 2.5 years now he aint using a strike pack his improvement over the years show that his aim got so much better over time look at genburten he doesnt use a strikepack and it looks like he has 0 recoil

[@Touchit344]

It’s not about how good or skilled these clowns are. It’s about how skilled they are at concealing their cheats. Times have changed. This younger generation is full of cheaters.

[@DrGrill-jm2cl]

So far most of his defense for players is just that they’re good.

[@Touchit344]

@@DrGrill-jm2cl lmfao “good”. When you get “good” at shooters, you’ll easily see what I’m talking about. Keep playing, get better, you’ll see. GG’s

[@botkehji4808]

Average person is like plat so it would make sense you have this mindset

[@zzzzzz-zv9ev]

​@@botkehji4808so i hit with randoms master Always you say they better my friend if i give you 1 mil you beter make 10 or you will disapire not only from platform thats why they never get out Until they pay and when they pay all i still have them in may pocket by then i gave them evrything $ woman whores qll sick thing you can imagine now he is my slave itw like bank you think they will hive you mil qnd sqy its all good no no

[@robertfulton9417]

This video can’t be taken at face value based solely on bias and already having one’s mind made up before hand on some players. Even 1 player bias throws the whole video off.

[@Luc_B63]

There was tons of proof what 😂

[@ramsaybolton9151]

@@Luc_B63 there wasn't at all. Lots of these guys have zero knowledge or experience even testing out modern cheat programs or they do and try to hide the information and confuse the public. We have humanized aimbots and ESP now. Just use ESP with your peripheral vision and you will just look like a l33t pr0 gamer. Don't set your aimbot ACC higher than 50% or mix up the headshot to body shot ratio. Use a low FoV aimbot so it won't target correct until you're a few cm away. Do this and a legit 1.5 K/D player can be a 6K/D player. Really easy to perfectly peek when you have ESP on.

[@Luc_B63]

@@ramsaybolton9151 this comment was made a while ago and idek what I meant 🤣 I mightve replied to the wrong reply or sum cuz I don't think Timmy, aceu, etc hack at all What side r u on brother, you worded that shi weird Or I'm just slow idk

[@lilbeartv9039]

To me the problem is the simple fact that so long that there is good money to be made there will be a plethora of cheaters looking to put themselves in a position to get recognized and it gets even worse when there is a ranked ladder involved because most of the popular streamers and KZbinrs play at the top of the ladder so to piggyback off those content creators you cheat your way to the top to give yourself a better shot at getting noticed. Granted most of these types get found out cause they aren’t smart enough/technical enough to keep it hidden for long. Sadly this has developed into an environment where people just don’t trust other people to play fair.

[@notyouraveragejohn69]

the big issue is that good aim macros can be used without detection by EAC and with "pros" being on a whitelist they often won't get banned. Even if caught by EAC, they reach out to their Apex dev friend and get unbanned. It's a bummer that these "pros" are giving the impression that this level of gameplay is achievable naturally and sadly it's not. It's done intentionally to get noobs to hop on thinking they can have sick 20+ kill games and have tons of fun, when in reality it will only happen with macros/scripts or luck and/or a bot lobby. it's more prominent among MnK players but controller players as well, you may notice sometimes roller players will unload a clip into the ground for no reason while nobody is around, they are adjusting their macros. some game Devs knowingly support this behavior because more players generally means more money. It's all a money grab and you'll never get the truth from people behind the scenes. I have worked with a few different game studios, I won't mention names but one that is most rampant that I personally worked for sounds similar to Latex. GL HF players.

[@HasturLaVishnu]

there will always be a demand for cheats and someone is gonna fill out thoes demands. Just like they can't stop drug trade, most lucrative business on the planet, Always a demand

[@Silent_Shadow]

​@@notyouraveragejohn69the exact same way athletes, actors, body builders make everyone think you can look like them on chicken rice and protein. A lot of money too be made.

[@knowwhatimeme]

Money is the root to all evil! 😈

[@shleemlington699]

you are coping because of your insecurities of being shit at games lmao very sad

[@Juan4themoney]

Not sure if anyone else ever feels like this, but when playing apex it seems I get nerfed. I don't move as fast, it's constant sluggish, my shots miss entirely and then after a game or two my skill seems to come back and I'm kill leader and all my shots hit. It's kind of aggravating.

[@redtesta]

you make my point exactly

[@jamestroxler7207]

I’ve noticed this same thing. Some games I can’t do anything right (climb jump run etc) then some games I feel like it’s sped up and smooth

[@NoOne-rl2ol]

Lmao I've experienced this with dead slides, slow turn, and no-reg

[@laputaindepestenoire9492]

Same but im still stuck at the first part, how do i get good and become kill leader?

[@ahafoodz4882]

lol you're not consistent simple nothing crazy

[@eternitygoldo9373]

this guy 100% is an EA employee doing damages control

[@Vantus4net]

Notice for the average player: Most top streamers have cheats. They don't shy away from it because it's their job and not a competition (as if that justifies them). Anyone who has had long-term experience in any shooter in eSports and has sufficient experience (LAN or online championships) and level of play - they don’t want to see these streamers. These streamers not only obscure the eyes of all thousands of viewers but also devalue the players who actually have a high level of play. We live in such a time that if a person is ready to spend about $100 a month on a cheat, + buy a board with cheats (which is installed in a PC) and loads at the UEFI level, no anti-cheat will ban them even if you throw 777 reposts (about the game developers themselves I’m not saying at all that they are also laymen and cannot tell the difference between a game with and without a cheat by eye).

[@TheChosen1inc]

I think its naive to think a lot of them dont cheat, especially with how much money is on the line and how good cheat providers are becoming at making "stream proof cheats". None of them are blatant and they are good players already, but they use cheats to get that little bit of extra assistance in order to take them to the next level.

[@8HeartNCM]

it's the same bs like with bodybuilding/fitness industry. They will foam at the mouth to prove to you that they do not use anabolic steroids, but they do.

[@jason-qc5lr]

something called credibility man. this is like how plane crashes are publicized and made a big deal every time it happens, because it rarely happens. if something rarely happens and it happens, its made a big deal. planes are in fact safer than cars. same logic goes for streamers and pros. there are barely any pros that cheat, but when one does news spreads like wildfire. these people really ruin the image of pros, and its the cheaters faught, so stop condemning pros who are not banned, and have been exhibiting the same skill level for ages. innocent until proven guilty.

[@teammo959]

@@jason-qc5lr wall of text, didn't read. streamers don't care about credibility, you are low iq

[@baronvonclems]

@@jason-qc5lr If you where to take one look outside of e-sports to the world of regular sports, you would see many (if not all) cheat. Why would e-sports have a relative low amount of cheaters when basically every top 100 regular athlete cheats? They either bent the rules so much or take syntetic steroids that are only detected 10 years later when it hits the open market. I would say that all the e-sport cheaters you are catching use open available cheats. The ones not getting caught are on the private cheats.

[@josevalero3543]

Exactly, I played competitive Quake 2 in my country back in the day, we ALL used "help" in those times ALL of us, have been doing it to at a certain level, from eliminating effects or weapons in the screen to having FOV when the game didn't have it, scripts for changing items, time counters for the quad damage, to more clear cheats and all because people used to say "hey, everybody used them, so I need to keep my level", the most I won was my first NVIDIA TNT2 ever, achieve the second position in a local tournament. Now is a lot of money, and viewers, and yeah, they are very good players, but is so naive to think they don´t have "help" when there is so much money involved, so sorry, but I definitively disagree with the video.

[@b7shoota]

dude whoever your editor is.. hes crazy good. and if you edit your own videos. thats even more sick. fire video

[@chillnagasden6190]

An INCREDIBLE amount of "good" players are cheating. Simpletons will protect them. And they ramp up the pointless empty bravado some times to pretend they're offended, but the amount of times someone perfectly tracks a moving target even with sudden jittery movement is a really good giveaway. And, as said in the video, aimbots can be toggled on and off, nospread means all your shots can hit even without aimbot where there would be recoil. Hell, just wallhacks or ESP is a MASSIVE advantage to mount or avoid ambushes...

[@wompa164]

steamers should stream a camera of their monitor

[@chillnagasden6190]

@@wompa164 Incorrect. *Competitive* streamers should.

[@wompa164]

@@chillnagasden6190 obviously that’s what I meant.

[@chillnagasden6190]

@@wompa164 Communicating wrong is fine. Admitting it is fine. But you kind of shit on it when you begin with "obviously". Your fault, not mine :-P Getting rudely defensive is not looking good there.

[@wompa164]

@@chillnagasden6190 "Incorrect."

[@mattw6705]

There's probably more streamers cheating than you'd think. I don't mind streamers cheating because It's fun when they get caught, mocked and ridiculed.

[@madboomr9048]

clips.twitch.tv/IcyCharmingPastaPanicBasket-tpXnn4VVE4h4AGOh check out rogues shotty transfer hmmmhmmm also... clips.twitch.tv/GoldenPatientTeaHoneyBadger-HrHdbJKd_h1uhOTX dropped kinda let loose with this one when he says WHAT THE cause his aimbot triggerd on the wrong player lol

[@jason-qc5lr]

top streamers?

[@madboomr9048]

timmy, rogue, dropped, to name a few that might have at home aim assistance. @@jason-qc5lr

[@jason-qc5lr]

@@madboomr9048 lol so you're their manager or someshit? just because they play better than you doesnt mean that they have hacks

[@icauich762]

I played with Timmy once in a pub match. Last guy was ratting in a weird spot I never seen before on W.E. Timmy knew exactly where he was! It was super sus ngl

[@laputaindepestenoire9492]

Sometimes it's just experience, usually ppl camp in certain places and as he played a LOT he is probably used to it, For exemple Ragg tagg was playing a game and killed a wraith, and was looking for his teammate and "found him" (he didn't see him, but he was there, where he supposed him to be) and got shot from the right and killed him, imo it's just experience

[@frankieflail7233]

He is a straight cheater!

[@juliedrenning6488]

He played in pro play he def ain't cheating

[@itruesplayy2415]

He has played W.E a lot he could just have vary good knowledge of the map

[@ILSEAHMASY]

Just say u're blind

[@YokaiSteve]

All I'm saying is, the level of speed, control and accuracy these players have isn't from talent or experience to simply shit on 3 players in close proximity and even the same gunfights. They definitely hide exploits behind the files.

[@pitchatan]

The biggest issue i have with this discussion in terms of pro players and streamers is the assumption that cheating equals straight up aimbot or wallhacks/esp. There literally exists cheats that do nothing more than REDUCE recoil (i am not talking about macros, i am talking process manipulation to actively reduce recoil, sway etc by a whatever factor you want, which in turn makes controlling said recoil FAAAAR easier). You also have either packet sniffers or straight up man in the middle software to setup radars (i.e a radar on a secondary pc/phone)... linux has more than one solution for this currently and has not (and will not) be detected currently as it's a kernel level cheat and the software to actually render this is done on another pc (EAC is nothing short of useless when it comes to ring0 cheats.. which the majority of competitively oriented cheats in apex are). Should be mentioned that i know for A FACT that this kind of cheat has been used in ALGS qualifiers by at least one team (i say at least one as they were being overly defensive and avoiding other teams the best they could... and would get randomly RUN DOWN by 2 specific teams every game they played). This is the same kind of discussion pretty much every sport has been having as well... PEDS (steroids, EPO, HGH etc) don't make you better SKILL wise, but it does allow you to do things more consistently and for far longer (i.e allows you to push physicality to a level where you would not be able to for any sustained periods). In other words.. if you are already good, you will get a lot better without it being "inhuman". This is very much comparable to streamers who are mostly known for their "inhuman skill" and absurd consistency, some of which who are so consistent that it boggles the mind (i.e playing for 24+hours straight without rest and not having a single dip in performance as an example). In the case of sports, everyone swears they aren't cheating in some fashion regardless of how absurd they look physically.... until they pop and everyone goes "durrr, it was so obvious". This has already been happening in valorant, and it's just a matter of time it starts happening every other title when they eventually/hopefully get their shit together in terms of their anticheat efforts. And just to expand on the apex issue... there are 2 cheat developers that i know of who focus primarily on hardware cheating (DMA/Direct Memory Access based cheating via a pci-e card linked to another device) that are more or less completely aimed toward competitive players that sell roughly 25-50 cards/devices A WEEK (i.e they sellout almost immedietly, and are completely dependant on how many pci leech/pci-e screamer cards are available at any given time).... these cards with software cost roughly 500-1200€ WITH A MONTHLY LICENSE anywhere between 25€ to 100€ a month attached to it.. none of them are detected by EAC and you would not know they were cheating if you were spectating or even standing beside them(unless they are running 'rage hack' settings). It makes you question things when you have a new aim god pop out of the woodwork every other day, it also makes you question things when you have several players at the latest apex lans looking like shells of themselves in terms of aim alone. As for genburten... he is a good player with a very good understanding of positioning and overall game sense (which was apparently enough for him to become world champion... then again they won without him as well).... but he also has an overwhelming amount of weird things happening to him outside of just pure aim.. e.g crosshairs literally moving toward targets while stuck lagging (when your connection is more or less 100% packet lossed the game stops polling input from your devices and kills AA until connection is restored as to avoid major desync), which is relevant as it points toward memory manipulation (reduced recoil and 'enhanced aim assist' do not check for connectivity and will try and force input to your client by memory manipulation, which in turn causes crosshairs to move on certain weapons e.g ev8/PK as the crosshair is on a offset on top of your clients normal view angles) In terms of aim... what he has shown at lan and what he has shown during pubs while playing from home are very different... he has proven he can hit fairly consistently on lan but has been nowhere near the level of aim he has showcased when he is playing from home (i.e he looked no better or worse than other players controller or not)... seriously, we have clips of him hitting nothing but headshots with r99 on a guy 80-100m away and not missing a single bullet while both are moving around erratically, meanwhile he was all over the place in both the stockholm scrims as well as the latest event (i.e he looked VERY inconsistent and looked no better than anyone else there). The genburten that will literally glue his aim on to people and one clip 3-4 people in a row was nowhere to be seen.. it was so stark that he was the least effective damage dealer out of both sharky and Zer0 (it's the complete opposite while they are playing from home). Is this any level of proof that he is cheating?.. no. But you can't help scratch your head at certain things, especially if you are keeping tabs on cheat development and actually pay attention to the ridiculous consistency of certain players.

[@bdubs3695]

You think Genburten beaming in pubs is more impressive than him winning world championship? Wacky logic . One of those takes way more skill than the other one does

[@x3Karma]

@@bdubs3695 how did you read their whole comment and missed the entire point of the genburten rant? he never claimed his pubs stomping was more incredible than being the WC. he was trying to get the point across that genburten's aim is not consistent in LAN matches than if he were to play in pubs.

[@bdubs3695]

@@x3Karma yes, and that's because in pubs you're not playing against the top 50 players in the world every single second like you are at Lan. Nobody does what they do in pubs at Lan. It's Lan. And winning Lan is far more impressive and takes far more skill than hitting beams in pubs

[@jabronivision2715]

100 you need to make a video about this lol

[@brienj]

So many people do not know about the DMA devices and how much they cost initially and monthly and how many are sold consistently. Thanks for pointing it out. It's obvious when so many are sold, you have to be dumb to not realize the type of people who are buying them. It's obviously someone who is making money from the games, i.e. a pro/streamer of the game. The cheats are all private too, not like Engine Owning and other well known cheats that the average Joe Blow cheater uses. They are also designed to look as legit as possible, and are very, very rarely ever used to rage hack. I would estimate that at least 95% of the very top streamers are using one of these devices and they justify it because playing the game is their "job". It's sad that playing games has become a job, and is exactly what has ruined multiplayer gaming, and is the reason for the rampant cheating.

[@literally.skill.issued]

I absolutely love this video format, there is so much information packed into this video

[@ЖизньвПарагвае]

what a great editor i guess

[@level99eevee]

Great editor, great idea for a video, and great execution of the video to keep the video entertaining and informative 🤩🥳

[@iddqdgodmode]

my view on cheating in video games is they are like really Advanced Bots. if they're there you just have to go after them... if someone's cheating KD doesn't matter it's your obligation to take them out.

[@Akens888]

The absolute worst cheaters in a battle royal are wall hackers, it doesn't matter how mechanically good you are unless you come up against them in an open space with nothing to hide behind they're going to out game sense you.

[@antonindekanovsky8242]

with good sound you can hear you oponent very well axtra in Apex but aimboot is end vor everyone

[@khemia3716]

Shroud used to have a humanized aimbot that did a aim correction, same pattern everytime. Shroud toggled aimbot for seconds to find out enemy locations. When Shrouds uses mouse cam he suks.

[@iljk]

When the research is so hard you start asking on Phub

[@loner10K]

I was looking for a comment like that

[@novaria]

really enjoy the high quality productions you're putting out lately! Props to your editor too

[@WeebsArePathetic]

Yea honestly I don't really watch apex but I watch this guy all the time. He puts out really good videos.

[@HasturLaVishnu]

yeah its getting better and better :D

[@zazamaza8648]

i see you have no sense

[@gutbuster84]

my only sympathy for this is my own experience, my friends and I used to play A LOT of R6, and I mean, lots. it was highschool, so we had nothing better to do. the countless amounts of time we just pre fired through soft walls or just guessed common locations and got hella sus kills was ridiculous. If some random highschoolers with only slightly above average ability can do it, streamers and pros can do it without a doubt in my mind.

[@privtprofile24]

This.

[@thuggwaffle8825]

R6 is way different that warzone or Apex though.. the maps on these battle royale games are probably 100 times larger than any R6 maps.. Not only that but in R6 there are certain lanes that you eventually have to take to disarm.. So of course in a game like R6 it’s much easier to produce clips like that

[@IBeatUpCakez]

Never once seen that so called flicking to players behind walls in csgo majors or even cod pro tournaments with aim assist

[@asiimovawper9884]

0:31 WOAH HE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR! this must be worth the watch

[@andythurs4590]

The thing I struggle believing is seeing absolutely no recoil when people shoot. I can’t look at my recoil control and then see someone with no recoil and not think something is up.

[@majormarketing6552]

Bingo

[@clubbizarre]

Watching Verhulst SoloQ to master with relative ease i noticed how insanely accurate he is at predicting from where opponents will peak next. To me that is experience because he is not always right. He just knows the EXACT spot on every rock where you would peak.

[@omnistasis]

Compared to his ALGS play vs stream it's plausible. Same with Hal, looks like soft aimbot because when faced against other pros he struggles to land his shots. In fact, he rarely fires at a distance

[@kindajacked5154]

Wouldn’t be solo queuing masters with lack of game experience, gotta be on edge anticipating all aspects and aim botting. Did it once, never again

[@mid2326]

Streamers that do bronze to masters are cheaters also

[@Efan39]

peek

[@kindajacked5154]

@@mid2326 so I’m a cheater? I mean I didn’t stream but I was injured and couldn’t even play video games. Came back to apex and I was silver, went straight to masters

[@DerekGaunt-x2s]

"After investigating ourselves we have found that we are not guilty of any crimes..." 😑😴

[@TheCrystalBlood]

According to someone who codes cheats for Valorant, most of their customers are either kids or content creators (streamers, youtubers, tiktokers, etc). I don't think that the big streamers most people know are cheating, but smaller streamers trying to come up and attract attention through crazy gameplay probably are. The cheat-provider didn't say which content-creators he sold the cheats to, but the interviewer didn't ask him that question. The interview is on Eggwicks channel, if you want to check it out. But like I said, I don't think streamers who are already huge are cheating, but you never truly know.

[@ramsaybolton9151]

I think this is wrong because cheaters are highly concentrated at the top ranks in games with MMR and SBMM systems. How are these streamers still dominating at these levels when they should statistically come up against a cheater in something like 1/4 matches after LE? I know they often find ways to smurf against lower skilled players for content but it's just insane to watch streamers kill cheaters and say " wow they outskilled the cheater". lmao. The only ones they die to are the LMAOBOX spin bot style aimbots that just 100% acc you.

[@abuzarrin7]

Don't believe anything you see. The amount of cheats/hacks selling online is massive. The people that's seems so good at the game seems to be very suspicious. Some of them keep looking at different monitor before killing an enemy.

[@makuthreesixty8228]

"Celebrity don't mean integrity" - Kendrick Lamar

[@gorz2013]

It's worse than people think. These guys aren't using 3rd party hacks. They are provided special versions of the game by the devs themselves. Cheats built right in. It's marketing people. You watch them hit crazy shots and plays that make the game look more fun than it is, so you wanna run out and buy the game to try and emulate your favorite streamer. It's literally advertising. Between bad or spotty connections, server speeds, half-assed netcode, and just general bugs, there is no way in hell these players hit the shit they do with consistency they do. It's why e-sports are done via LAN and not online. It isn't hard to put this stuff together, people. It's all just about selling you a product and making money.

[@botkehji4808]

Just say you suck at games

[@CorTec]

yeah that's probably how it works, it makes business sense to have god level streamers to get people excited about the game, also if other games are doing it, they your company would feel the need to also create these streamers for your game to drive new users. What it means is that anyone who is a partner of a game is cheating. And then most of those who are not partners also need cheats to compete, so they will buy them off the black market.

[@hypexzombie7908]

I had this thought the other day especially once I learned that the cronus zen has Bluetooth capabilities so even players who stream and have a hand cam could still possibly be cheating. Because a hand cam can’t show a Bluetooth connection lol.

[@theraptor]

I was an admin for battlefront 2015 tournaments (1 time champ myself) and that’s why we instituted console cams. All USB ports to the PS4 had to be visible with nothing plugged in

[@hypexzombie7908]

@@theraptor that’s really smart, unfortunately it’s harder to tell with your average streamer because they have no obligation to do so. They could just show their controller and 95% of people watching will believe them. Crazy to think about.

[@sirturdaloter141]

Cronus Zen is literal AIDS in this game right now. I bet over 75% of high tier players are using it.

[@boogaboogboog]

@@hypexzombie7908 it’s really not that crazy

[@finesseandstyle]

Cheats costing $1000 A MONTH is wild. How does someone value their undetected cheating entertainment that much? Unless you're a top streamer or professional player where the gains far offset the costs. Even then, you'd have to be already a cracked player to be able to perform in situations where you don't have cheats like in live events and even then it's far too risky. I can't simply comprehend someone spending that much just for fun or for a long period of time

[@gravity00x]

because cheats make people more money than 1k a month. 99% of competitive twitch streamers are cheating. cheating has been normalised and promoted, especially by ridiculously duuuuuu hmb viewers who give financial incentive to the cheaters. cheating in video games online on display, has become a viable and very lucrative career choice. i highly recommend the book empire of illusion. it might not have been written in this decade, but it describes and explains this lunacy perfectly.

[@FriendNotFoeBand]

Honestly, you can just feel when you are up against a cheater. There is a certain rhythm, timing, cause/effect that you become used to experiencing. When that is feeling is disturbed, you can just tell that cheats are involved. I think the topmost streamers would find it impossible to get away with cheats.

[@sgrouge]

You cant make a difference between a smart cheat with a 20% percent error scheduled, and a good aiming/tracking player.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@sgrouge You can. A program will act the same no matter the circumstances. A human won't.

[@spicesmuggler2452]

@@TheStraightestWhitest But the human may decide when to use the cheat, they dont use them all the time, they use them here and there. It masks the cheats really well doing this.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@spicesmuggler2452 True.

[@TheSoggyOne]

"if he was aimbotting, he'd be flicking right on the target, not just towards them". These kinds of videos are always by ill-informed people assuming everything should be blatant, or even that if someone is pro or played on LAN, then they're 100% clean. Humanized aimbots pull the crosshair near the enemy to reveal to the user where they are. It's typically a soft aimlock as a means to give the user info, only full locking when the user already has their crosshair placed directly at them. Pros aren't superheroes, they cant defy human abilities. At some point you have to realize you're calling "gamesense" or "fast flicks" on every single clip, often when there is NO info to go off of, and the flick is perfectly onto someone not even on their screen.

[@alexmercer57]

content aside, the editing is pure butter 🔥🔥 give ur editor a raise

[@culigula3724]

that whole thing about studzy means that this goes far deeper then anybody could imagine. he threaten to expose people(prolly cause they didn't back him up) then nothing almost like the man didn't exist. kinda scary if you ask me

[@DandandanTelevison]

I gotta say it is pretty frustrating when you put in the hours and grind, know you are good, but other people are “better” because they just hit 100% of shots while aimbotting. It’s a bit like viewbotting on twitch and forcing yourself onto the top of the recommended page. Like there are other people there with genuine views who prob spent the last year trying to move up the Recommendations page. I think there are just are just too many sociopath gamers who don’t care about fairness or actual skill. They just want the title of best player and all the donos and attention that come with it.

[@siniister710]

also tbh I'm not even good at the game, plat level, and I've had people in pubs think I was cheating because I could aim a fully kitted spitfire with no recoil. It's a single good clip from me in 3 hours of playing, imagine what pros deal with when clips like mine won't even register for them and they're all playing 10 hours a day

[@killa8092]

0:36 hey wait a second what website is that..

[@ububugagaga]

yo wait a second wtff haha

[@majortom9397]

I'll tell you this, im italian and a dude i know managed to get in a private italian discord who sells hacks. We're not talking about free hacks you can find on the internet, but specific software that is being sold only to certain people and costs a lot money since it's almost impossible to detect. Apparently many streamers in the italian community who plays FPS games use these cheats, and in general (worldwide) i remember some ex-pro players stating that most of e-sports pro cheats because it has almost became necessary for competing at those levels. There's a lot of money behind streaming and e-sports, i bet that there is a pile of shit behind it.

[@botkehji4808]

Really made up all that bs to make yourself feel better about being ass at the game. I’m fkn dead

[@majortom9397]

@@botkehji4808 i simply reported what i've heard, im not interested in playing competitive and i never stated that i was good at it. I also have no issue to admit that it's surely full of people who spend a lot of time practicing and getting good at it. You act like a child, grow up.

[@knoxschyuler5716]

All a part of a larger experiment. Never in my life has that been true, I’ve heard it from cheaters dozens of times so now when I hear this I just KNOW it means it’s an admission of guilt whether they say it or not.

[@shehwyyd9120]

Wow this aged really well???

[@johnnycruz5209]

This sounds so bias. To call someone unskilled for making accusations of cheating is ridiculous to me. It is not naive to think that people who may make a tremendous income by being good at a video game may do something to improve their performance that may be considered cheating. People have been cheating in first person shooters forever. We get that people are skilled. People also cheat.

[@lockhart7813]

You obviously didn't watch the full video. Yes, he said that some of the accusations were people coping and some of them were, but he also pointed out a bunch of other times that people WERE cheating and even said at the end that it's naive to think that none of the pros are cheating.

[@zzzzz329]

I mean many of you have been caught cheating by respawn so i mean you can make excuses but cheaters are gonna find ways to cheat and people like this will keep defending them.

[@botkehji4808]

Cope harder

[@lsaac_]

i do remember seeing a clip where there were seemingly no bad guys in his field of view, and timmy instantly flicks behind him and pings an enemy. There was no audio that had footsteps or shooting. Possibly using an aimbot but idk.

[@mrdoogle5931]

This kind of reminds me of the fitness industry as it currently stands. Basically, if someone goes to the gym, builds a bit of muscle, lowers their body fat resulting in decent definition, that person is most definately on steroids, even if they're 6' tall and 150lbs. Same with gaming. once you get to a certain level you're always going to get the accusations from lazy, ignorant people that don't know any better.

[@CelaLare]

Its fcked that there are lots of cheaters playing the game unnoticed by the system but you have to admit, getting accused of cheating while you're playing legitimately feels good

[@bdubs3695]

The Studzy section was chilling. This man said this was an "expirement" involving many other top streamers. Implying that someone is putting together an expirement in the gaming streaming space. He said he will expose others and show people the truth, and then he all of sudden disappears... that's weird man .

[@Rego-xn7kn]

Dude was just lying and trying to cover himself, there’s no conspiracy lol

[@bdubs3695]

@@Rego-xn7kn that has happened to people in other industries, and it's something to be aware of . As a man it's important to see through lies and to be able to discern right from wrong. Otherwise you can easily become a fool. That's why I pay attention to details that others write off as nothing

[@wolveriness8875]

Actually lulu had a video where she supposedly was doing jigger shooting but it wasn't even adding up. Sorry but some or most of the streamers are whitelisted .

[@Reiswalt]

I understand all these skills like flicking are super real people sometimes predict flick which aims on targets you predict would be at that location. Aimbot auto locks on a target so that's out of the question. I noticed a majority of top streamers are using wallhacks tho. Accuracy on that level without audio is impossible they have to had known they would show up exactly where they did.

[@CmdrDudge]

It's a crappy world we live in where due to the prevalence of cheating you can't tell if someone is actually a god or has hacks installed. I'm just a dude who wants to blow off some steam in the evenings and weekends but now I'm playing against streamers where this is their day job. At least being a console player I have limited experience of hackers in Apex. I refuse to play warzone. 😂

[@sirturdaloter141]

Console has cheats too man. Especially the Chronus no recoil bullshit that is literally aids now in the game

[@CmdrDudge]

@@sirturdaloter141 Yeah man, we're not totally free from it. Aimbot and Wallhacks yes you're right there's probably tons of people using Cronus out there too. 👍

[@mykellederickpalad7883]

Oh but we can. Absolute dohshit cheaters have no game sense and it makes it more obvious that they're just cheaters compared to actual gods. I'm dogshit but even I have sus moments where I beam everyone and flick at the most unsuspecting shit ever.

[@sgrouge]

Ya. I never know if the beam of bullets I received was from a cheater, an aimlab champion, or just my dumb position :p

[@majormarketing6552]

@sgrouge Rarely its normal play. Very rare. Most people suck

[@olddadagamer]

you look 10 years younger in your old clip .. not saying u look old now, but wow what a difference. This was a well put together video. I admire the editing and overall completion of this video. well done my friend , great content !

[@Dewlone]

I think most of them aren’t cheating, but they definitely game the system to get really easy lobbies.

[@buddddddddddddddddddddd]

explain? most streamers play Pubs. MMR in pubs is extremely loose

[@poremich]

I have been watching some streamers like rFaide, aceu and others and can tell for sure that they don’t usually get easier lobbies while streaming. 4-5 pub games might be either a throw or a perfect game, though they might choose particular apex servers to benefit from matchmaking

[@olivertabibzadeh7815]

Nope they just look easy because of how good they are, you are those players

[@Dewlone]

@@olivertabibzadeh7815 maybe, but there's 100% something set up with Warzone lobbies. Maybe Apex not as much

[@brianlee8866]

@@poremich They don't, at least for Aceu and Timmy. The only times they'll switch servers is if there are too many stream snipers in their games

[@wat_omy]

I play lots of fps’ and have the mindset of playing every opponent like they’re cheating, but not assuming everyone I’m playing against is cheating.

[@SiegfriedSTM]

Timmy isn't just flicking on targets out of his view. He is flicking on people he has no knowledge of... it's definitely some kind of assist which orients him on the closest enemy upon pressing a button.

[@masterhacker7065]

Copium

[@Bantzhole]

​@@masterhacker7065simp

[@Bantzhole]

I get that people are fanboys. But we all know if he was some new startup streamer and made plays like this he would be called out as a cheater. I can't say I know definitively that he's cheating but anyone who won't even entertain the idea is just a simp.

[@xxkotaxx]

Ur smoking copium! Lol ur just mad he’s good and you aren’t, get good or pick a different hobby holy shit.

[@hyperkaioken4982]

@@masterhacker7065 you think its normal for people to stap their aim the way timmy does while still spraying? 🤣

[@peterpeter5666]

i love how guys lazer u across the map with wingman when they cant even see u

[@lemonke5341]

damn imagine yuurah wasnt actually cheating and they just perma banned him he could've made this game his career and they just stopped it there the amount of power they have is insane

This video is highly misleading. You can do your own reasearch and see that plenty of games (especially CS) have confirmed cheaters at the highest level. OP is an apologist.

[@gravity00x]

this is the biggest cheat apologist i have ever seen. he really thinks he is smart in his arguments but, essentially all his arguments dismiss evidence and basically just parrot "hes just good". Thats the entire explaination for every cheater that he shows here. Wow.

@@gravity00x It's just his "they're just good, not cheating" arc. There are people who are insane at aiming and there are plenty of cheaters. You can literally find proof of plenty of cheaters in e-sports let alone in ranked play. Delusional.

[@artmanrom]

Of course, especially when it's about a lot of money on the table, they are obviously cheating and the devs aren't doing anything cos they are advertising their game.

[@HSFJepsen]

One thing people forget, especially people below top tier. But players with thousands of hours have (mostly) insane gameknowledge and understand on how teams spread out. Aceu as an example has INSANE game sense when it comes to know where people are and where they have set up, how to attack and how to get back to safety. He knows that teams in high elo mostly want to set up flank watches, disengage-routes, crossfires, high ground, swinging off contact etc. Ofc most of the times you run into randoms with an iq of a McChicken that are easy to punish and therefore easily rack up 10+ kills in a game.

[@vice8629]

id say 90% of them somehow cheat. Im pretty sure EA themselves provide silent cheats for the top streamers. Starting with consistent bot lobbies

[@rDommHD]

I think what makes it so hard for me to personally differentiate between someone being so insanely attuned to their game and cheating is the fact from 2012 to 2017 when I played in semi-pro on LAN for CoD I would get accused of wall hacking and aim botting and refs would have to look at the set up that THEY gave me. I literally just played thousands and thousands of hours that i knew where people typically would be per unique situation. I don't have those kind of hours dedicated to any particular game anymore but I can understand how the pro streamers are constantly getting accused. Doesn't help that there's been so many streamers who get caught hacking live and they then delete all of the socials and streams after.

[@edwardbelt2270]

This didn't age well.

[@your_local_bartfart]

lmao😭

[@punch_fps3564]

I never understood why anyone would want to cheat in a video game, it feels wayyy better when you play alot and get to see yourself improve.

[@xDragonce]

In speedrunning, reason for cheating is usually that you are quite good, but either rng or some other factor just keeps you from getting a top 10 time. In their head they deserved it, so they'll just cheat a bit to get it. I think that's one reason to cheat.

[@maibemiles3904]

That’s cuz you’re not a lazy minded person always looking for the easy way out... can’t say that for everyone though can we... lol

[@skotinoulis4745]

Let's say you are the top 2 pred, but you can't get first. Then, because you've spent so much time training, you blame everyone but yourself. When you are at a point where you think it's just your luck being terrible you install cheats and you think you actually deserve it

[@hehateme71]

@@skotinoulis4745 this is spot on my man!

[@israelCommitsGenocide]

its genuinely a low iq thing, you have to be a subhuman for it to be acceptable to you.

[@gunbeagle_sweden8136]

Here is a sulution.... Let top streamers do games on different tested system outside there homes, with zero % cheats, and if they performe as good as in there bedroom give them a "green mark". Streamers who refuse to traval to this place get a "red mark"..

[@zhmbs]

0:37 Oh this man went *everywhere* 💀

[@electrified0]

The funniest with Timmy is that for every clip of him flicking to someone and beaming them, there's 3 of him flicking to a spot no one is standing and beaming the air with the exact same level of speed and control. Of course, if you point that out, the tin foil hats come out and they'll say he's faking shooting nothing to throw you off. All evidence proving them innocent is flipped around into evidence of them covering up cheating. When in reality it's all just evidence that whoever is making the accusations is extremely insecure about their skill level.

[@jwlafferty]

And the Aceu clip he shows at the beginning doesn't give you all the context. In slow-mo closeup of that clip you see his bullets curving also. I'm all for celebrating skill but come on.

[@scottbrady1103]

To go along with what Tony said, I'm more than 100% positive the settings these players used are not fully disclosed. You can "try" to search their sense settings but trust me, it's all bs. If I was as good as them, I'm not disclosing that info

[@subigirlawd_7307]

Yes, It makes them money and the game developers look away because there's eye's on the game they are trying to sell..

[@Acorious6109]

EA: "Don't cheat, we'll ban you!" EA: *Sells cheats for extra income* EA: *Ban some cheaters* EA: "See we're doing work" EA: *Sells more cheats*

[@Sinflux420]

I think most of these players definitely honed their skills over many years and grew up with this stuff. However I do think of sports like motorsports where teams will find any way to skirt around the rules set in place to gain an upper hand. Cheating has been a part of motorsports since it began. Always gonna be those kinds of people but I don’t think that’s the majority of good players on these games. Especially if they’ve proved themselves in a LAN environment.

[@alexalexx3330]

yes a lot of them do, they make money off of it, nobody is consistent into winning in every game, i don't give a shit, you can be the luckiest, it just doesn't go that way everytime, even for a skilful player. With the amount of hacks nowadays, esps and crap like that, they can easily do it via 2 monitors, in tarkov and other games, worst part is, they rip ppl off cos they donate while being unfair.

[@AvitaBeckling]

if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? most players are running zen box macros including OTTR. ppl thinks zens not cheating and it is

[@BlankTFS]

I feel like no one but bad players thought aceu, timmy, and lulu were cheating. I however would like to see a video on Warzone streamers because that in my opinion is the biggest cesspool of cheaters.

[@Kyle_Evers]

I always find hackusations funny. I have been accused so many times (not so much in Apex but Star Wars Battlefront 2) even by cheaters themselves. I remember posting some clips from that game on Reddit and people went out of their way to make separate threads just to accuse me and to not believe my clips. I have never cheated in any game, as I've never felt the need to and the game would likely be less satisfying. While I don't want to say never believe hackusations, please just realize that there are people out there better than you and just because someone is able to produce a few minutes of nice clips from hours, weeks, or months worth of gameplay doesn't mean they're cheating.

[@codmsimon4703]

nice vid, good quality 👌🏻 I wanna see more of them

[@insquared1868]

the aimkick when vaulting is very annoying, i once climbed up a ledge with a pk and when i was almost at the top i allready started preaiming my opponent, when i finally finished climbing, my crosshair kicked up and missed the easy shot

[@lolno6975]

Little nitpick but the "silent aimbot" is probably just as well known (if not more) as a "magic bullet" cheat

[@obi-wan4019]

I've been in lobbies where we run into pros and I get pooped on 99% of the time. You can just tell when someone is insane and when someone has something extra. I've never ran into a player even a pro that is just that much better than another pro. They're all usually insanely cracked and that's it. You're able to tell when someone's sus. I don't doubt that there's streamers out there who are cheating.

[@jankopandza1072]

the most fun part of 2022 was the research that came out from gamers magazine proving over 55 % of players in online PvP games use cheats and over 75 % of streamers use them also :) it impacted many games to the point we saw over 50 million players just leaving Call of Duty and many other games lost huge number of players because of this fact that was known for a long time but could not be proved. now it is proved.. people are even talking about how legal actions should be something the law should start using against these streamer cheaters that take money aka scam players aka more or less kids from their parents hard earned cash

[@Tankerbell83]

Studzy was more than likely told, "You aren't exposing anything"

[@bluething1429]

I don't think any big streamers are using aim hacks or wall hacks, but I'm convinced a TON are using some sort of no/less recoil stuff. It blows my mind when someone picks up a naked r99 and beams from long range with 0 vertical or side to side recoil

[@YOUNGJBR]

practice

[@st1ng2k70]

Practice and recoil smoothing, if you turn more than i believe 3° per tick, recoil gets completely disabled - that's also why jitteraim is a thing, same mechanic different execution

[@kindajacked5154]

You shouldn’t be having recoil on your weapons, practice until you’re comfortable with it like this

[@toinfinity095]

just pull down lol

[@Spooder050]

I go into the range every single day before playing a game what gun do i pick up? R99 and now when i play the r99 basically has no recoil cuz im just so used to it

[@EdwardScribbins]

I personally know several several pro players who are cheating when not playing on Lan. They are "controller" players but not really controller. They are using xim apex and also using DMA map radar with zone prediction. They will never be caught because there is nothing to detect in terms of the anticheat. The firmware used by the DMA is of the highest quality and even bypasses VGK IOMMU blocks because it's imitating a NIC perfectly.

[@wompa164]

lame but also very interesting from a technical perspective

[@KunaiMelee]

So Ottr did you or your community know you can legally cheat through your settings menu? You can manipulate aim assist and curve bullets AND auto lock on targets using the ALC menu it's not cheating on controller. I have TONS of proof.

[@complex6355]

😂

[@KunaiMelee]

@@complex6355 lol, ottr is an intelligent man and he will hear me out before spouting petty insults and laughing in the face of something unknown. He is a man of science and reason and he probably wishes his community (you) we're more like him.

[@KunaiMelee]

@@complex6355 not to mention that in the "profile" config folder that holds ALL your settings in decimal format, there are extra hidden settings in that config folder such as "gamepad_aim_assist_ads_low_powered_scope" etc and these values can be changed to actually manipulate aim assist, this is a legal code folder that is allowed to be accessed on the clients end so it's NOT cheating. Sorry you would rather laugh in the face of truth than accept it with open arms.

[@complex6355]

@@KunaiMelee i cant tell if this is satire or real 😂

[@KunaiMelee]

@@complex6355 you can't tell? Do the research or LISTEN TO WHAT IM SAYING. Why should you IMMEDIATELY be coming to CONCLUSION on this subject when it's ONLY JUST BEEN INTRODUCED TO YOU???? ARE YOU THAT CLOSED MINDED????

[@ChrissyTT1]

Do you have any aim exercises or movement exercises before games, I am new to apex and I hope I can be as good as you one day

[@ryanbarr7832]

Yes, they are cheating. Don't be fooled. You already know most of those shots are impossible without aimbot (chronos)

[@SDSOverfiend]

Listen man… regardless of what all they Stan’s say… Majority of these dudes are using LaviCheats. I watch countless videos watching streamers do things that are not possible concerning aim and with guns. But most of these fans will convince you it’s because they are using a mouse. From silly recoil videos to throw off the scent to silly control and visuals setting videos to help aim. It’s all bullshit. No recoil with a Havoc and 3x Bruiser landing 89% of a clip? Knock it off. They are so high up they can’t get banned because they are ambassadors for the game. The cheats they have a percentage in which you can set the accuracy and consistency of the aim on the shots concerning snap.

[@pars1eyf1akes12]

I like Timmy a lot but to this day, that 3rd clip you showed of him (on Olympus) is weird af (I started thinking about it as soon as you mentioned Timmy before you even showed it).. It wouldn't be so weird if it weren't for the fact that there IS a person on the other side of that building, if you watch his teammate kills them; it just seems too far to hear and it's very much a snap : /...

[@abdur1300]

I've seen a video where timmy shot the wall unintentionally

[@jerrym6712]

Have you never flicked to people even on accident? Timmy would have 10's of thousands of hours, there's gonna be sus clips no matter what. Don't be that guy.

[@pars1eyf1akes12]

@@jerrym6712 I'm not saying he is cheating; I'm just saying that it looked weird.. there's a difference between flicking to someone you can see on screen or hear near you, and snapping to an enemy on the other side of a building that is too far away to hear (especially over you finishing 2 knocks)...

[@Spooder050]

@@pars1eyf1akes12 timmy is obviously trolling for slow people like you

[@makeshiftpatriot]

Ottr with that “chat don’t clip that” 😂 then makes a cheater video. Love this.

[@Blitz_Zayne04]

Thank you for pointing this out. But if there are cheaters that keep coming back, why have they not been put behind bars?

[@mynameis.5480]

Beside it’s not a federal crime but I believe it should. Because these people make money with the content. That’s fraud.

[@Blitz_Zayne04]

@@mynameis.5480 I read in the terms of service for online service games that repeated bans from the same users will get prosecuted by law and paying fees but I witnessed several groups from PVP games that keep spamming burner accounts. Like how is Playstation network not updating their banning options?

[@mynameis.5480]

@@Blitz_Zayne04 there’s a loop hole in everything

[@Blitz_Zayne04]

@@mynameis.5480 It looks like a lot of people are going to get in trouble, including game developers and game platform companies that are running/manipulating the economy on videogames online services. I don't know when until then. I already see the shady acts with Battle royales to arena games. Pretty much the competitive scenes in general for videogames.

[@mynameis.5480]

@@Blitz_Zayne04 it’s really bad. Recently found out the Dr. Disrespect and Jackfrags 2 big KZbin’s /streamers have used aimbot in their videos.

[@ateidmon9835]

thats studzy thing was so weird. It might be that he was ganged up and forced to shut up, coz you know how much money those top streamers make. the fact that silent/soft cheating exists makes it really frustrating

[@14eiben]

360 quality kek

[@Swdn]

Cus you are early

[@ryanvess6162]

Not understanding KZbin kek