How This Apex YouTuber DESTROYED his Career

How This Apex KZbinr DESTROYED his Career
ottr tells the story of watergothim
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[@ThordanSmash]

I heard the name Thordansmash mentioned. What the hell is a Thordansmash

[@JMac-]

I’m sure it’s James Charles’ boyfriend.

[@Sullys-GamingYT]

You are amazing thank you

[@fierceflammiko3650]

Hi 😊

[@Lt_Sn0w]

😂

[@_bludie_]

Ugh that guy is so annoying 😤🙄

[@valhalla_1129]

Don't worry, Water. Despite the hackers rejecting you, you'll always be the number 1 predator on Discord at least. And that's gotta count for something, right?

[@thebrotatochip32]

dang. dang dang dang. dude that's hilarious

[@jesusvera7941]

*smart core activated*

[@frederikwilliammcdonald259]

CHILL CHILL CHILL, He's already dead!!!

[@TheWindows72306]

please explain the joke to me, i do not know this water guy. some context would be nice. thx.

[@jesusvera7941]

@@TheWindows72306 context is in the video, however: -water is cheating to get to the apex predator rank in the game. -water tried to harass a minor, thus he is a child predator in real life. makes sense? he is a predator nonetheless.

[@iTemp2]

0:33 wtf the guy stole my Kraber thumbnail I'm livid

[@R3m.]

ill handle it.

[@onlyXuxn]

@@R3m. did you handle it?

[@TheRealAlexLovett]

Look honey it’s toad rage!

[@wattyswrld]

lmao we got itemp toad rage rich 🤓

[@KayleeRein]

@@R3m. did u handle it?

[@lacyx7923]

he made some ow2 content when it came out and in a video he said that there was a ban wave coming and some dude commented "that's crazy do you know of anyone who was banned for ddosing?" that made me laugh hard

[@ryantylerMachete]

back around season 6 or so I ran into this guy on kings canyon, I downed him and then lag spiked for a few minutes, when the game was playable again I was knocked, just a week or so after that happened he got exposed

[@chaddfrancis2179]

Lol

[@rexcolt9742]

So he revived himself or what?

[@DukeofRizz]

​@@rexcolt9742 wasnt that a mechanic back in s6?

[@rexcolt9742]

@@DukeofRizz Only with golden knockdown shield. Quite specific situation

[@niccolodeparmapanini2036]

Come to think of it i might have gotten lag switched by this scumbag too. I was in KC Octane's place and everything if fought this one specific squad with a bloodhound I got insane lag. My squad ran away to stay alive and the lag was suddenly gone until we got close to them again.

[@FexWasHere]

I remember exactly when the whole situation happened. Dude literally was unhinged and didn't care about his actions, proceeded to continue his videos

[@TheSirens_Fate]

the fact that i unironically used to watch him.

[@GotDamBoi]

he had solid content when there weren't as many leak/news channels.

[@PinkGuy1313]

Bro same

[@ic0nix_107]

we all did. now his face just makes me laugh, so much ego and hate from such a tiny manchild is hilarious.

[@ThordanSmash]

It’s ok, our live streams better ❤

[@ianculp1779]

I was subbed to him when he started posting leaks, never noticed I was still subbed. Fixed that.

[@sn0wy_0]

I wont lie, I was a fan of Water for a long time, from late 2019-whenever he was DDOSing. I had no idea about any of this drama until now, don't know how this was hid under a rock so well, but I'm glad you brought it to light. Let's get this creep out of here. 🎉

[@sn0wy_0]

I also never went and harassed anyone, nor was I in his discord; I had just came to know (about) him on KZbin.

[@blueoqua7394]

Same, now it makes my blood boil when people ONLY bring up the ddosing part because I was there and witnessed everything and nobody brought up the other stuff

[@blueoqua7394]

Also I think I recognize you?

[@LilKGames]

lol literally i would watch his daily vids and had no clue about this stuff until very recently ☠️

[@Uncharted8907]

@@blueoqua7394 a lot of people were tho?

[@narcheto7524]

Bro looks like he drinks cooled microwaved water

[@ryantylerMachete]

lmao

[@TedjiroKamado]

Bro boils ice cream.

[@barryb.benson2402]

Microwavedwatergothim

[@Cmattalk]

I remember being a watergothim viewer back in the day. Guy had simple but good content. But the weird under age girl thing and the DDOSING couldn’t be ignored🤷‍♂️ buddy just seemed too goofy after that

[@gudlad88]

Yeh i remember the under age girl thing coming out that was when i unsubbed

[@jesusvera7941]

i watched him too because of the leaks, but wasnt really a follower, once i saw him in a stream and his face... well i felt something wasnt right, as an empath I read people very easy and this guy gave me a bad vibe, i said to my self "ok ok lets not judge a book by its cover" but then i learn about his harassment to a minor and i just realized i should trust my instinct more often, happened me twice, not that much but its meaningful it happened twice.

[@pot8oman134]

@@jesusvera7941 same here. Dude just gave me bad vibes so i found other sources for leaks and then like a month later the drama was blowing up a bit

[@dublinpatterson8200]

Lmao 18 with a 15 year old is not illegal is a lot of states in American most people don’t know that 3 years age gap is nothing know your state laws

[@FallenHerald311]

@@dublinpatterson8200 Maybe not but that doesn't stop it from being creepy as fuck

[@ToonZ_1776]

I remember this dude. I watched a video or 2...I grew up around multiple narcissist, and a couple of very manipulative others. I commented asking an opposing question and it was deleted. Years later all I'm hearing is confirmation.

[@striderhanzo]

Stopped watching this goon when valk was a new thing. The way he said cute japanese girl made me sick. Good to see it got ousted for being a clown.

[@derp-7274]

Even before he got exposed he was rude to some of his fans and seeing this happen feels kinda satisfying

[@tll_anonymous4174]

Derp?

[@tll_anonymous4174]

It's Path

[@derp-7274]

@@tll_anonymous4174 do I know you? Wait path? Path from what?

[@tll_anonymous4174]

@@derp-7274 Jole

[@derp-7274]

@@tll_anonymous4174 no way wow

[@julianjolts5050]

Bro didn’t even have to play apex to earn predator

[@tarochanusa]

It’s crazy how he is allowed to have a platform still when he violated so much to point of destruction of his reputation. Cheaters deserve to fall like dog water over here

[@yousifahmed8766]

Ottr we all appreciate the work you put into these videos, these videos take so long to edit, and to find the information.

[@dexterzelix9489]

your not real

[@yousifahmed8766]

​@@dexterzelix9489 please help me, I'm being held to comment on videos. My owner isn't looking, I have been given a fake name. Please help me, I don't know what to do, I feel like I'm going to disappear very soon. I have collected over 400,000 youtube likes on all of my accounts added together. I just need somebody to help me...

[@crazies2916]

and? rofl

[@dexterzelix9489]

@@yousifahmed8766 NO YOUR NOT REAL LEAVE ME ALONE YOUR A FAKE

[@prosandcons-fl2cc]

he doesnt edit his own videos lmao, hes owned by an organization

[@thegamingbayskeletor1637]

And i thought he was only cheating and DDOSing back when he was exposed, bro is an absolute menace 💀

[@Forest_V19]

The fact that a LOT of people STILL watch this guy… even after learning about what he has done.

[@manwithmultiplenipples5706]

I love him like a step brother that hates me

[@heistingcrusader_ad3223]

​@@manwithmultiplenipples5706 who hurt you

[@bloodmiami4746]

I’m just now finding about this stuff 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@joshvaughn7348]

I mean your still watching ottr even after the see stuff he had been caught doing so what's the difference lmao

[@gilgameshvolante]

who? his channel is basically dead and any video with a slight amount of views is bombarded with dislikes

[@erreip_]

Dude. Love the TBT community vids. You're always consistently making interesting vids about out little scene. I'm here for it . Water was a lesson in unchecked ego and perspective. It was sad to see it unfold when it happened

[@AnonVoids]

1:23 that tracking is insane, even before I was able to see the enemy through the smoke

[@SmoeStopMotion]

I remember being a fan of water up until I saw the end of one of his videos of him calling out Thordon smash for something, decided to look into the drama and fell into a horrible rabbit hole and just decided to completely avoid water like the plague

[@denniskarlsson6173]

Haven't heard about this guy before but whats even scarier is the fact that he actually had fans

[@miguellopez3392]

even genocidal dictators have fans

[@zynosgd9982]

This is the type of person who's never had to be held accountable prior to becoming popular on the internet. Then people started criticizing him and he couldn't handle it. In his mind he could do whatever he wanted without facing any consequences.

[@nGEnigma]

Honestly, I have always been a fan of video documentaries/essays. Never thought I'd be watching long form style videos on one of my favorite games

[@shadowmare45]

Im glad water is out of the community, otter you are the man love your work

[@walterwhite-fi6wy]

Next let's get rid of ottr, garret and Thordan smash for having groomers and racists in their discord servers

[@Neon1880]

@@walterwhite-fi6wy let’s get rid of ottr for being trash at the game and being annoying

[@shadowmare45]

Wtf

[@KAIIRU.]

@@shadowmare45 Water still makes videos and has a raving lunatic cult of fans still. Of course they would come to the comments of this video screeching. Ignore them.

[@Meeowzu]

Back in season 8, i played rank with him, and we both were preds. When we first played i thought he would play as a pred. Playing with him def confirmed that he either ddosed his way to pred or got boosted. He didnt play like a pred player at all. Everyone who played with him told me he doesnt play like a pred.

[@upon-fe2720]

Hahahah, I'm so glad you used Shiv as the Tufi reference, that clip had slipped my mind. Absolute gold dust. Good work OTT-R.

[@fallingturd1177]

Hey good on you for calling out those other channels and keeping the story alive don't need him catching traction again.

[@t.1.0.17]

Ottr best community informant, this man got the candy and the good stuff for apex, respect.

[@GreenStreetTutorials]

Here from goldec ❤

[@SamStraker]

Bro, when this drama unfolded i couldn't help but grab a snack and laugh at what happened. Glad to take a look back

[@ilialbutworse]

These documentary style videos are so entertaining

[@bhambabean1192]

Went to school with this guy he was like 4 ft and used to walk around pretending to be gangster. talked so much shit and tried so hard to pick fights with folks. Was definitely a troubled kid from the get-go. Had no idea he was even known on the internet let alone a creep but I’m honestly not surprised.

[@Sullys-GamingYT]

You are really good st this game otter. Out of all the other apex content creators I watch I come back to you more often then them.

[@OpplehiemerDingleberry]

“He already tried somthing in the past , now he is gonna try and do it in game”. That is the best line in cinematic history

[@DookiePox]

I friended Water and ran a few games with him totally unaware of his past. I just enjoyed the concise nature of dude&s videos. After a month or so he inexplicably removed me from his friends.

[@NateTheGreat368]

Same thing happened to me. I played a bit with him on ps4, met him through a friend who was a friend of his, and randomly got unadded. After the things he has done though I can't say its unfortunate that he unadded me

[@jonathonteague7388]

i remember being in him streams when i first started watching his content a while back and genuinely though he was a chill dude, how did this go hidden from me for so long.

[@cocobelfort8570]

he got a new channel called Water CS now doing patch videos for counter strike 2

[@mightymobthesecondchannel5017]

Anyone here after goldec’s video ?

[@Deiv.]

ya

[@-7g-]

Water also got banned from NoPixel for cheating. His character was called "Alessio Jilani" To be fair he was a pretty good roleplayer but he got sweaty over some pixel items and rather than just accepting the loss he f8 quit and was never seen again

[@sodabutnofizz1294]

this is a good field in apex creation you have entered, ottr. I finally enjoy watching you again! Keep grinding

[@davidthorne5715]

Seeing that old clip of him getting caught ddosing as blood brought me back, I remember when all this drama was going on, he had such a good thing going and legitimately could not keep himself out of trouble, it was like he wanted to go down in flames from the start. Definitely learned some new details from this video though, very well put together

[@daintyonion]

Lmao Shiv’s rant had me DYING- “YOUR WHOLE FAMILY *in game” 😂

[@josemachado6942]

I remember when the videos of water started hitting KZbin. The ddos attacks and the live ban was something wonderful to see

[@dollypower9383]

Yessss I've had water on my mind lately. The simulation pulls through again 😂

[@JoeVev]

The things Ottr and Thordan do for this community are incredible

[@joshjordan1486]

Nothing.. wow incredible

[@alexsandrsenaviev8121]

Bro let the power of being the owner of a whole discord get to him.

[@howneybadger1751]

How you forgot to mention that Water broke down on stream and started crying yelling “give my account back”

[@Nekotic28]

He become CS2 youtuber called "Water CS2"

[@misu1g]

yeah, hes just clickbaiting. I hope ppl would know this and give him hella hate.

[@Gammaurai]

Everytime I see watergothim on any new account trying to recover i always drop a comment laughing at his helpless struggle

[@hjngok9179]

3:15 lmao picture of techies drinking clarity

[@TheApexAquatics]

I think its crazy how some aspire to be on that type of level. Pretty sure you helped me quit this sh%t. The amount of OT vs time wasted. Much appreciated. I got you subbed.

[@MARSHIGGA]

Love your content ottr. ❤️ A question brought to my mind tho is how is that child after going through that is she in good mental health condition or does no one know.

[@ratioed1438]

Some people are just built to fail. If this dude was normal, he'd be a successful content creator because he is clearly driven. Crazy what mental illness can do to people.

[@cs3k3]

As a mentally ill person, representing the mentally ill community we do not claim water as one of our own, you should try the "babies dropped on their head" community instead. /j

[@karlsparx9077]

@@cs3k3 right... only "good" people have mental illnesses 🙄

[@VeryBadPlayerTV]

when you said "insult their users" when he joins the discord and used the mario mushroom power up you got me too good

[@stormy2913]

I can't believe that it's been that long. It felt like yesterday when the Watergothim controversy was still fresh

[@schulzg]

Dude was cancelled almost immediately yet his fanboys chose to ignore the facts that some many had made videos and commented on.

[@irascible3753]

how is this guy not in jail

[@HumanSAS]

Damn, I remember these times, not really happy and remember how stupid it was look bruh. Good job on research of information, everything was collected correctly and presented nice 👍

[@dylanpineda3461]

Man what a mind refresher from this controversy and too i didnt know he was trying to pick up minors just that he stole content and suing threats

[@marioballinas6346]

I remember when Water got exposed for DDOSing, but I had no idea he actually commit a the worst crime possible. I’m actually sick

[@kingklipo]

Definitely not the worst crime possible, for sure its in the top 10 tho, at least.

[@Neon1880]

Worst crime possible? I’d say killing someone is the worst crime but Ight, you do you

[@marioballinas6346]

@@Neon1880 to a certain degree, someone can justify murder. Not saying it’s ok, but it CAN be justified. Grooming a minor or being a fucking predator is NEVER justifiable. But you do you

[@marioballinas6346]

@@kingklipo id 10000% say it’s #1. Predatory crimes towards anyone, especially children or those who can’t defend themselves or don’t know better is the worst crime ever. That’s my opinion

[@Neon1880]

@@marioballinas6346 no shit it’s not justifiable, but the worst crime possible is taking a life. Yes it happens accidentally but I’m talking planned and premeditated. There’s different levels to murder if you didn’t know. 1st degree murder is worse than SA or raping minors, you are literally ending a life on purpose. At least the child can grow up and live a life (maybe, again still messed up af) after that

[@emitzzed1733]

I defended him at first as I believe in innocent until proven guilty but when I saw the evidence I was disgusted and swapped sides

[@aloof258]

WOW!!! Just realizing how much I missed this drama when it was hot, man.

[@coraalzreef]

No way this is crazy!! I ran into water in a game once, he told me his KZbin at the beginning of the game, and I had not herd of him at the time. I of corse looked him up, and found out he stole content, but i thought that was all. I did not know untill know that he did all of this. THANKS OTTR, i think i am going to make a video on the situation!

[@scottiehippie]

I had this dude in my lobby I was only gold III; but he killed both guys and I started lagging. I tried to finish the last guy but I oddly didn't get any damage output. Went back down to bronze and almost cried lol

[@pinksywedarnoc8017]

Gold III to Bronze!? That's an absurd amount of points.

[@AwareOCE]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Thordon for the GOAT he is 🙌

[@minaranazmin1392]

Ottr u should keep doing these type of vids they are really interesting

[@TRIGGAMAN_LOCO]

Water was the OG Apex news channel for me back in the day. I remember commenting good job when he finally made it to Pred and like 2 months later he got outted for cheating 💀

[@SirDubbs]

How is shadow ban worse than terminating your channel? It’s like saying silently existing is somehow worse than your entire existence erased…

[@ihatepinecones99]

If you're here from the water cs vid, skip to the 5:00 mark.

[@rjgamergod171]

17:57 it's funny that you used a clip of Law and Order SVU considering what water has done.

[@Penguin3yt]

Ive been gone from this community for 2 years But have still heard waters name, great video mate!

[@vankisha]

Something I think is worth mentioning is that after he was exposed someone else made a channel called FireGotHim and replaced him, at least for a little while. I dunno where that guy is nowadays or how successful he was but I thought it was pretty funny. Edit: Just found out Fire's channel got terminated due to KZbin being stupid. :(

[@YumCumTV]

His new channel is Water CS2 do with this as you will

[@staygrizzly6810]

Lmao, I remember watching this all play out in IRL what a time on apex now this took me back lol.

[@daniboy2699]

I remember his apology video where he talked random stuff and started cooking food

[@Deiv.]

goldec

[@dyliedog0512]

Awesome video man. Btw he’s still doing it. Recently he stole a few thumbnails of mine for his videos. And funnily enough they were his best performing vids on his channel for at least a few months haha

[@thiagosilvarodri7193]

Yes yes click bait master...

[@Hero_Of_Time94]

Ayyyye I just finished watching one of your videos, mint content mate!

[@Jesus.christ.your.bro.]

I remember this shit back when i used to play apex this was just the golden age of apex where everyone was just in shambles

[@OffDeGanja]

Is it sad in all my time of playing this game I have no idea who he is?

[@ryantylerMachete]

not sad, actually god bless u

[@Quinners08]

Me neither Im not a apex degenerate who plays and watches 10 hours a day

[@TedjiroKamado]

I been playin since s1 and only even heard of his name like once.

[@OffDeGanja]

@@TedjiroKamado I started season 10 full time but was on and off from season 1 till 7

[@notoriousalien]

BRO YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT THE VIDEO OF HIM CRYING ABOUT HIS BAN LMAO

[@ragingmoomins3516]

Found a printscreen of this on my phone & had to search to relive the history 😂

[@kylerogers6811]

Lmao ottr spinning the block one more time to randomly dunk on water again 😭😂

[@UB00F]

Guess we’re in a content drought😂

[@michaelsponseller5337]

how water had a platform after grooming is insane

[@dylanmyers4474]

Looks like he became the “number 1 Predator” after all 😅

[@MoosenOggen4343]

How Ironic is that lmfaoo

[@PinkPuppyCat]

This is crazy, I used to watch him but only a few videos when they popped up in my recommended.

[@Cqntemplate]

9:40 oh they’re riding something… but it’s not a horse

[@JustAPenguin1673]

Me and my friend used to watch this guy a lot. He was even a mod in the dudes discord server and played with him once or twice. Once the drama started up, we both dipped fast. The good news is that my mate found his current girlfriend through Waters server, so silver linings I guess.

[@ashtondillard6906]

When I saw his face in your thumb mail I immediately had some form of memory or de ja vu but just could not remembe, then you said his name and it sounded so familiar. Now I remember. I used to watch him WAYYY back when I was still with my gf, I do remember all the controversies.

[@daz5946]

That was a rollercoaster holy shit.

[@Cheezer3089]

goldec W ❤

[@NOVELL1]

PredGotHim

[@TheGhostOfRave]

novell i love you

[@NOVELL1]

@@TheGhostOfRave

[@triadwarfare]

PedoGotHim

[@ic0nix_107]

watergroomedher

[@begottentech9139]

Great video, im only upset that fire got em was never mentioned. That dude was hilarious

[@tars4497]

The shiv footage had me dead

[@Lucifer-dy5mc]

I was like 'There's no way he gonna top that grooming stuff' but there was MORE! BRO KEPT GOING- TF IS WRONG WITH THIS DUDE HE SHOULD GET THERAPY

[@Midnight_34]

This video was very enjoyable and glad he barely gets any views i never seen a youtuber doing well this

[@captainjellyfish1791]

15:04 dont jumpscare me like that

[@Exot1c_FPS]

so thordan wife is the hero of the story

[@ThordanSmash]

Accurate

[@GAGIAN]

Yes

[@Kingcarson-ij8hv]

I used to watch this dude daily when I found out about the ddosing and cheating I was like yoooooooooooo

[@MoosenOggen4343]

Literally just saw his video saying "I got exposed" and read the comments which directed me here. Juuuuuuust wow. Insane.