HISTORY HATES LOVERS (Lyrics)

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@Joplas99
@Joplas99 2 жыл бұрын
We must live in pride the love others lived in fear.
@justyourlocalcommeterd1986
@justyourlocalcommeterd1986 2 жыл бұрын
ayyy 69 likes
@fishs.failureson5114
@fishs.failureson5114 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah
@yeaheahy1826
@yeaheahy1826 2 жыл бұрын
Slay
@fishs.failureson5114
@fishs.failureson5114 2 жыл бұрын
@@JennySadnick Perhaps even fuck yeah
@PlaceboStan
@PlaceboStan 2 жыл бұрын
@@yeaheahy1826 WTF IS UR PFP💀
@ghostly_elly
@ghostly_elly 3 жыл бұрын
"lets be historic close friends" is a new way to say that i love a person
@catonkybord7950
@catonkybord7950 3 жыл бұрын
Please, let's make this a thing 😄 "Wanna be my best friend" ☺️ "In the historical way?" 😏
@reyniedaze2413
@reyniedaze2413 3 жыл бұрын
This is how I will ask someone out!
@marinadiaz1762
@marinadiaz1762 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE
@bobatea1950
@bobatea1950 3 жыл бұрын
same
@pollikosolli1376
@pollikosolli1376 2 жыл бұрын
i'm aroace that only felt attracted to the opposite gender (so far), but if someone would ask me out like this, i would at least consider XD
@hanellee_3854
@hanellee_3854 3 жыл бұрын
Achilles: "When I am dead, I charge you to mingle our ashes and bury us together.” Historians: Ah yes, they must be bffs Hollywood: cOUsINs
@paniccastiel6690
@paniccastiel6690 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh what two good pals!! Nothing says best friends like killing one of the strongest Torjan soldiers aka Prince Hector knowing well that it we cause your death but you do it anyway out of vengeance for your very close pal that you shared a bed and a tent with for most of your life .. ahh that's what brotherhood is all about
@jamie_gil1790
@jamie_gil1790 3 жыл бұрын
@@paniccastiel6690 because they were besties 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@paniccastiel6690
@paniccastiel6690 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamie_gil1790 Two dudes sitting in a hot tub 5 feet away cause they're not gay! Except they weren't 5 feet away and they were so very gay.
@abigailfreirebustos3954
@abigailfreirebustos3954 3 жыл бұрын
@@paniccastiel6690 are they really you're bestie if the don't go against all odd to avenge your death??
@reivioli2604
@reivioli2604 3 жыл бұрын
@@paniccastiel6690 nah they were just very close bros!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍
@tamarrivner1005
@tamarrivner1005 3 жыл бұрын
David to Jonathan: “your love is better than a woman’s love to me” historians: best friends
@raspberrycrowns9494
@raspberrycrowns9494 3 жыл бұрын
they literally kiss and have each other's souls bonded for eternity, wish I could find myself good friends like that 😔🙏
@dinganiphiri9711
@dinganiphiri9711 3 жыл бұрын
I had to read that story for my Religious ed class and I remember internally screaming every few verses, but no best friends
@tamarrivner1005
@tamarrivner1005 3 жыл бұрын
@@dinganiphiri9711 I’m Jewish and I have Torah class-ISTG there’s no way these two aren’t madly in love
@tamarrivner1005
@tamarrivner1005 3 жыл бұрын
@@raspberrycrowns9494 lmao fr
@historynerd7846
@historynerd7846 3 жыл бұрын
Ruth to Naomi: literal wedding vows. Catholics and historians: best friends
@Rex-om4dt
@Rex-om4dt 3 жыл бұрын
*cough* Achilles and Patroclus. Bruh when Patroclus died Achilles screamed so loud they could hear it in Hades…… ah yes. Besties.
@Feu_Ghost
@Feu_Ghost 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure we would hear Hades too if something happens to Persephone
@sleepyeclipse5832
@sleepyeclipse5832 3 жыл бұрын
@@Feu_Ghost I think this proves the point exactly 😅
@Feu_Ghost
@Feu_Ghost 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepyeclipse5832 That was the objective, Thanks
@jennapineapple5867
@jennapineapple5867 3 жыл бұрын
Omg i think my comment got deleted or something so I wanted to apologize dhshhs I got so upset because I didn't know he died yet so i started freaking out hdgsh
@isabellasuell3305
@isabellasuell3305 3 жыл бұрын
It's the way I want someone to love me like they loved. 😔
@eimearkeaveney1192
@eimearkeaveney1192 3 жыл бұрын
obviously gay spouses: we look like a couple here! historians: *a couple of besties!*
@AshaSara
@AshaSara 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza Жыл бұрын
Why is this so true???
@HunterNeyorApollo
@HunterNeyorApollo 9 ай бұрын
I have a issue like this with my girl freinds as in tirls who are my freidns they have been asunder to be my gf
@ChippyMcDippy
@ChippyMcDippy 3 жыл бұрын
I remember we were reading a story in history class and we were reading about two woman who were “best friends”, my history teacher literally said “And we all know they were more of lovers but historians suck so that’s not going to happen” and honestly that was amazing
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@lilymortensen3344
@lilymortensen3344 2 жыл бұрын
as first ones HISTORIAN" -Adora shera princess of power
@butasimpleidiotwizard
@butasimpleidiotwizard 2 жыл бұрын
Ur history teacher sucks and knows nothing about modern academia
@Bxnnyyyyyyy
@Bxnnyyyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Your teacher is an icon
@he1pppp
@he1pppp 2 жыл бұрын
And everyone like that
@mapotofu1841
@mapotofu1841 3 жыл бұрын
about Chopin: "In one letter to a male school friend, he wrote: “You don’t like being kissed. Please allow me to do so today. You have to pay for the dirty dream I had about you last night.” There are 22 letters on record from Chopin to the same friend, Tytus Woyciechowski, and he often began them with “my dearest life”, and signed off: “Give me a kiss, dearest lover.” But the English-Canadian biographer Alan Walker insisted in his 2018 book Fryderyk Chopin: A Life and Times that the homoerotic love letters penned by Chopin were the result of “psychological confusion”, and added that Woyciechowski was a “bosom friend”. Chopin bisexual icon
@NeidenHalffur
@NeidenHalffur 3 жыл бұрын
History hates lovers...
@cichyczek
@cichyczek 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Where can i read more about it??? 💖
@halfnheart7731
@halfnheart7731 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Lord JUST LET IT BE A ROMANCE BRO
@zuzannaczech
@zuzannaczech 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, we were talking about non-hetero stuff once when studing (writting studies, one hour of lecture was for non-hetoro literature) and we are from Poland - country from a very polish-sounding-named Chopin was too, and like... Chopin was told to be one of people to have "same-sex romantic friendship" (romantic because of era "romantism", but like... do they hear themselfs?). Like seriously how is that even a term? How did they came up with this term? "And they had same-sex romantic friendship. Utterly platonic of course"
@MorganEdgy
@MorganEdgy 3 жыл бұрын
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 3 жыл бұрын
Achilles and Patroclus jamming to this in the afterlife like “just friends”
@matchamelon330
@matchamelon330 3 жыл бұрын
omg mood
@halfnheart7731
@halfnheart7731 3 жыл бұрын
No, Not Giving Me Miraculous Ladybug Vibes Nu-Uh I Haven’t Watched That Show In Years And That’s What Stuck With Me? REALLY?
@augustr4wberry
@augustr4wberry 3 жыл бұрын
I love your pfp!!
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 3 жыл бұрын
@@augustr4wberry and I love yours!
@augustr4wberry
@augustr4wberry 3 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebeeproductions1673 thanks
@albborumm9437
@albborumm9437 3 жыл бұрын
i still remember when we were doing the illiad in my high school latin class and my teacher was like "achilles and patroclus were probably in love but historians don't really like that so you'll have to say they were comrades in the exam"
@princessericaairacompuesto5566
@princessericaairacompuesto5566 3 жыл бұрын
LUCKYYYY I WANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF TEACHER!!!
@bigmcg7484
@bigmcg7484 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like best teacher ever
@pastelpinksparrow9436
@pastelpinksparrow9436 2 жыл бұрын
It has actually been confirmed by historians that they were lovers
@iiiinkman
@iiiinkman 2 жыл бұрын
your teacher must’ve been veri epic 😌
@owl2944
@owl2944 2 жыл бұрын
what if we were comrades in the trojan war? haha jk... unless?
@shadowstudios5495
@shadowstudios5495 3 жыл бұрын
One dislike was a historian.
@azusazoo
@azusazoo 3 жыл бұрын
On alt accounts (Edit on 12/7/21) YO I GOT 83 LIKES DAD I’M FAMOUS 😍
@fluffy80hd31
@fluffy80hd31 3 жыл бұрын
Yep the historian sure does have alot of alt accounts lol
@V.ms_tape
@V.ms_tape 3 жыл бұрын
More like fucking 18 LOL 😂
@em4650
@em4650 3 жыл бұрын
Historians*
@runindaclub
@runindaclub 3 жыл бұрын
@@V.ms_tape 24 HAHAHA
@katrinka9781
@katrinka9781 3 жыл бұрын
As a Bi-woman who has a passion for queer history, this song slams me in the chest. I want to blast this to the world. I love how cheerful the song sounds but at the same time, damn does it just hit me like a semi-truck.
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, I’m bi and into queerhistory Have I found my platonic soulmates?
@verygender8996
@verygender8996 3 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebeeproductions1673 Two others in the same comment?
@amberlexicon
@amberlexicon 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this gets me emotional too
@oodlespaos
@oodlespaos 3 жыл бұрын
I feel thissssss I am to a Bi who is into queer history :)
@foxja1
@foxja1 3 жыл бұрын
I also have that oddly specific passion twins
@maremantis444
@maremantis444 3 жыл бұрын
"Some men would kiss other men because they thought women were useless" - My history teacher (male) talking about ancient cultures edit: oh WOW, people keep coming here. I've learned a lot in these 2 years, so here more info for you :) The act was called Sodomy! Occurred in Ancient Greece but also during medieval times (specially in Italy) with those crazy catholic churches. Sexual activity and lust were already unspeakable because of the church, but when men chose to do it, it was with their pals! There were even cults and reunions around it. The act was done in the dark. This was a known thing and considered illegal and aligned with heresy (when one is considered enemy of the church. It was the worst thing you could ever be). Despite guards literally being sent to stop that from happening, many of them did not ever return! Italy 1300s was PEAK (what we know as. don't apply modern terms to ancient concepts) misogyny and women were considered beyond inferior and their “womanhood” linked them to the devil, specially because of the lack of education surrounding menstruation. Now imagine committing the deed with a woman AND one who is bleeding right where it is sinful, how'd that affect the mind of a medieval man? At least men don't bleed, and the deed would be much, much cleaner.
@ferni0307
@ferni0307 2 жыл бұрын
the DENIAL
@ViridianAubergine
@ViridianAubergine 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, they weren't gay, just very misogynistic!
@emiliereal1520
@emiliereal1520 2 жыл бұрын
THE DENIAL- 💀
@Dustrin
@Dustrin 2 жыл бұрын
THIS CONFIRMS THAT MISOGYNISTIC MEN ARE JUST GAYS IN DENIAL
@highlandcheesestick8402
@highlandcheesestick8402 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dustrin i mean.... why you treating a man better than a woman? sus
@angel2andbee2_art29
@angel2andbee2_art29 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear this song I remember the Greek gods, history ppl and literally every uncannon ship in all fandoms
@diyachambers9270
@diyachambers9270 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@olja8523
@olja8523 3 жыл бұрын
same tbh
@adenavardabriana83
@adenavardabriana83 3 жыл бұрын
Artemis and callisto ( i mean they're cannon but some people said that they're just "friends" and artemis is aroace)
@loveranpo
@loveranpo 3 жыл бұрын
ME TOO
@gergelykovacs4008
@gergelykovacs4008 3 жыл бұрын
@@adenavardabriana83 she killed her wth
@alexvarveri1176
@alexvarveri1176 3 жыл бұрын
As a Greek person, this is one of the best songs to describe greek historians. Thank you for this masterpiece 🥰🥰
@kat-vw9yq
@kat-vw9yq 3 жыл бұрын
AHHH SAME:) and history/mythology teachers 1) won’t even mention the “rumors” or 2) will make a bad snarky comment :/
@alexvarveri1176
@alexvarveri1176 3 жыл бұрын
@@kat-vw9yq Ikr! Me and my friend want to ask our history teacher about the Achilles/ Patroclus situation but we are kinda scared🤣
@kat-vw9yq
@kat-vw9yq 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexvarveri1176 well i did ask my Οδύσσεια teacher last yr abt it privately and he got a bit nervous but ultimately he told me it was possible, but isn’t sure djdndckcj
@alexvarveri1176
@alexvarveri1176 3 жыл бұрын
@@kat-vw9yq Η καθηγήτριά μου πέρυσι είχε κρας στον Οδυσσέα- Ο θρησκευτικόας ήταν full supportive και μας είχε πει ότι τα είχαν😌
@ntianakrikou5577
@ntianakrikou5577 3 жыл бұрын
Trueee Only one teacher ever mentioned a same gender relationship and that was my Odyssey teacher :]
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 3 жыл бұрын
Lesbian archaeologist-to-be here, and I'm proud to say that the new generation of historians does, in fact, love lovers! 🥰
@nicovelardita8619
@nicovelardita8619 3 жыл бұрын
This kinda gives me hope, thanks
@scrollingdownaswespeak
@scrollingdownaswespeak 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to know that new historians doesn't hate lovers. Spread the love! 💖🌹
@go-cm4rz
@go-cm4rz 2 жыл бұрын
Some historians are scared to "call them lovers" because of hate though. They are not all homophobic, just scared of death threats.
@TimeturnerJ
@TimeturnerJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@go-cm4rz I think it's more to do with making academic statements. See, even if every sign points to two historic people being lovers, unless they actually called each other that, we can't say it with 100% certainty - so even if subjectively you think "duh, they were gay", it's not something you can present as an objective fact if you don't have any hard evidence for it. You could potentially suggest it as a _possibility_ at least, but even then, you'd have to word it carefully. Academic circles are very strict about subjective statements, and that's probably why a lot of people use more general, objective terms. Can you prove with 100% certainty that they were lovers? No, likely not. But can you prove that they lived together? Yes. Sigh, roommates it is... This isn't just the case for same sex couples, mind. In archaeology, we can always _speculate_ about the cultural aspects of a place or item, but presenting anything as a hard fact when you can't prove it is a slippery slope. Academics are very strict like that. :'D
@Hello-xg3ke
@Hello-xg3ke 2 жыл бұрын
@@huntersden5119 Nobody cares about your opinion.
@natuskaa.
@natuskaa. 3 жыл бұрын
my lord. I'm in love with this song. It sounds so good and is very true. Whenever I hear “and historians will call them” I immediately start to vibe. SUCHA GREAT SONG
@oublaire
@oublaire 3 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@natuskaa.
@natuskaa. 3 жыл бұрын
@@oublaire OMG I DIDNT EXPECT YOU TO REPLY
@amfthatlovesxiao897
@amfthatlovesxiao897 3 жыл бұрын
OMFG U PLAY GENSHIN
@natuskaa.
@natuskaa. 3 жыл бұрын
@@amfthatlovesxiao897 YUH I DO
@amfthatlovesxiao897
@amfthatlovesxiao897 3 жыл бұрын
@@natuskaa. OOO WHOS UR MAIN? I MAIN KAZU
@ayuki9329
@ayuki9329 3 жыл бұрын
i just recently discovered this song accidentally on tiktok last week and i literally feel in love with it the moment i first heard it and i’ve been waiting for the full song to be released today !! i love it so much i will play this song 24/7 on repeat 😌
@helloearth2178
@helloearth2178 3 жыл бұрын
Same 😁
@b_wolfie2097
@b_wolfie2097 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@kittycat5766
@kittycat5766 3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@twotix2209
@twotix2209 3 жыл бұрын
same
@iuvyne
@iuvyne 3 жыл бұрын
same
@Azi483
@Azi483 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact because why the heck not: Emily Dickenson, a well-known poet from the Victorian Era, was secretly in love with a woman. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's such an interesting story!
@Bleuemaiden
@Bleuemaiden 3 жыл бұрын
wow yes! I love this story!
@dandeliondaffodyls1426
@dandeliondaffodyls1426 2 жыл бұрын
Her and Adrienne Rich are on the official English curriculum I have to study for my exams this year :)
@anastasiae3796
@anastasiae3796 2 жыл бұрын
Another fun fact: she's my distant relative and I never knew that. Ig history really does hate lovers :/
@lilymortensen3344
@lilymortensen3344 2 жыл бұрын
She was in love with Sue Gilbert. Sue loved her back they were my gay awakening. They made me feel like i belong Sue even married Emily's brother Austin so she would never be apart from Emily. If you like the too you should wach "dikinson" Hailie stinefeld is Emily and Ella Hunt is Sue. Awsome chemistry
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
Mary Shelley (got reminded bc it's whereabouts of the same time) was bi and so was her husband Percy Bysse Shelley and literally one of the reasons she wrote Frankenstein was because she got bored out of her skull when they ended up isolated in a beach house during a storm with a "family friend" and the friend's "friend", and her husband was too busy sleeping with said friend because he "didn't often get him to himself away from prying eyes" so she went "ok have fun I'll just be over here changing the history of literature for funsies" 😂😂😂😂😂 Btw the "friend" was Lord Byron lmaooo
@carlstewart7844
@carlstewart7844 3 жыл бұрын
As a aspiring historian who's in school right now this song is my anthem. LGBT+ history is something I'd love to research and publish about because of the historians brought up in the song. We've evolved past the point where my peers need to keep things in the dark for any reason, and I'll be damned if I follow the path that these past historians traveled. There are so many historical perspectives and relationships that we know about that fit their agenda, but there are way too many that are just too obviously gay to be ignored. It's frustrating, but thankfully I'm not alone in trying to right the wrongs of ignorant historians. Fantastic work with the song!
@friedlemon5172
@friedlemon5172 3 жыл бұрын
That's so cool! I'm rooting for ya! ^^
@sweetprince6474
@sweetprince6474 3 жыл бұрын
We rooting for u we're all rooting for u
@carlstewart7844
@carlstewart7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@friedlemon5172 Thank you!
@carlstewart7844
@carlstewart7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetprince6474 Thank you!
@deathbydrano
@deathbydrano 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you achieve your dreams and research into this 💖
@_veronica_r
@_veronica_r 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the song says nothing about it being an lgbt relationship, we all just know it is.
@cinny1313
@cinny1313 Жыл бұрын
That's cause this bullshit doesn't happen with straight relationships throughout history, never in my life have i seen anyone uniroically say a man and a woman were very close best friends. I'd say the opposite is more true, people tend to assume they were a couple with minimal evidence
@PhuongTran-yj7wz
@PhuongTran-yj7wz Жыл бұрын
Just perfect, am i right?
@noelia-z9p
@noelia-z9p 11 ай бұрын
The song Is literally about a LGTB topic
@_veronica_r
@_veronica_r 11 ай бұрын
@@noelia-z9p I-- yes...? But where in the song does it say so? It doesn't. We just infer it.
@Tries_To_Draw
@Tries_To_Draw 4 ай бұрын
The song dosent but it says so in the description
@bluehornets5694
@bluehornets5694 3 жыл бұрын
This song, this just reminds me of two very different things. One. Historically, Alexander Hamilton and John Laurence. Alex LITERALLY said he didn't want to be married to a woman and wanted John. Like. wHAT? And then. Fuckin Gravity Falls. Thank god Alex Hirsch has made it very clear about Durland and Blubs. Because DAMN DISNEY. Disney is just like "They're just close" BRO THEY SAID THEY WERE IN LOVE
@_parpadoscaidos5681
@_parpadoscaidos5681 3 жыл бұрын
"Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships" wasn't enough for fucking historians WTF, what a shame 😪
@justahuman6614
@justahuman6614 3 жыл бұрын
LAMSSSSSS
@june.2069
@june.2069 3 жыл бұрын
Achilles and Patroclus have "the song of achilles" meanwhile, Alexander and John have "Duty and Inclination." Both books are good.
@sageinlove
@sageinlove 3 жыл бұрын
*laurens
@nimonarocksbby
@nimonarocksbby 3 жыл бұрын
Omg someone who finally mentions Gravity Falls! Yes, best cops
@noxlux9163
@noxlux9163 3 жыл бұрын
i like how everyone uses this song lightheartedly but this actually has a deep and nice meaning to it
@Rad_Nicole
@Rad_Nicole 2 жыл бұрын
“If Tzar Alexander was a women, I’d make him my mistress” -Napoleon Bonaparte.
@dragonettwins3228
@dragonettwins3228 2 жыл бұрын
THIS 👆
@DinaTeur
@DinaTeur 2 жыл бұрын
what? when did he say this, napoleon bi icon?
@gamercarmen3957
@gamercarmen3957 2 жыл бұрын
@@DinaTeur There is even a book about Napoleon being bi!
@DinaTeur
@DinaTeur 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamercarmen3957 really ??? omg the french conservatives are gonna be pissed if they learn that lmao
@Lrd_Storm
@Lrd_Storm 2 жыл бұрын
He told this to his wife 😂😂
@leanogiyose8305
@leanogiyose8305 3 жыл бұрын
This song makes me think of every uncannon LGBTQ+ ship that has a lot of chemistry in the cannon book/movie/tvshow.
@nicc4102
@nicc4102 3 жыл бұрын
supercorp
@Kade_Colorfull
@Kade_Colorfull 3 жыл бұрын
Soukoku
@bumblebeeproductions1673
@bumblebeeproductions1673 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh Hollywood sucks I know /hj
@saynomore6958
@saynomore6958 3 жыл бұрын
Girl meets world
@justsomeyoutuber7919
@justsomeyoutuber7919 3 жыл бұрын
Wolfstar
@Nau_ru
@Nau_ru 3 жыл бұрын
"I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that ’till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you". - Alexander Hamilton, to his best friend John Laurens.
@entitledpussy1411
@entitledpussy1411 3 жыл бұрын
"best friend"
@Nau_ru
@Nau_ru 3 жыл бұрын
@@entitledpussy1411 Obviously /s
@entitledpussy1411
@entitledpussy1411 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nau_ru didn't mean it in a rude way srry
@Nau_ru
@Nau_ru 3 жыл бұрын
@@entitledpussy1411 Oh no, don't worry! I'm sorry, I didn't mean it that way either
@nagerimanualidades9403
@nagerimanualidades9403 2 жыл бұрын
Its actually confirmed that Alexander's son crossed out some parts of the letters between them before publishing them, wonder why. A posible secret romantic relationship is also touched upon in Alexander Hamilton's biography (the one that inspired the creation of the Brodway musical), and i don't know if this is historically accurate ( don't remember if i read it on the internet or on the biography) but i think someone close to Hamilton used to call Laffayette, Laurens and Hamilton somethig along the lines of "the gay trio"
@aruxani
@aruxani 3 жыл бұрын
"Too many hand written letters signed to my dearest with love." "To my dear Historia.... As I write this, Reiner is standing at my side. He knows that this is a love letter and yet he's still sneaking peeks. It's no wonder that creep's still single. That said, he did give me his word that he'd deliver this letter to you. He says he owes me for the time I doubled back to save him. I'm sorry about then... I never would have imagined choosing those two... Over you.... I'm going to die soon... But... I'll die without regrets. Or that's what I'd like to say. The truth is, I do have one. *It's that I never got to marry you....* With love... Ymir. "
@MichiXou
@MichiXou 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE STOP IM BAWLING MY EYES NOW
@midoriyasallmightonesie5190
@midoriyasallmightonesie5190 3 жыл бұрын
YES I CRIED AT THAT SCENE
@cerealbugz
@cerealbugz 3 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY
@ratking7219
@ratking7219 3 жыл бұрын
PERFECT EXAMPLE AHHH I'M CRYING
@madesh9336
@madesh9336 3 жыл бұрын
STOPSTOPSTOP NO I THOUGHT I'VE ALREADY MOVED ON FROM THIS...
@ziqqyziqqy
@ziqqyziqqy 3 жыл бұрын
“who’s gonna tell us the stories that our textbooks don’t?” me: /keeps including in queer history and queer and trans subtext in classic literature at every chance i get at A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
@renak3366
@renak3366 3 жыл бұрын
queen
@justintime3656
@justintime3656 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@evagrace5292
@evagrace5292 3 жыл бұрын
same though lol
@littlelillies3656
@littlelillies3656 3 жыл бұрын
I’m at a Christian school rn..I could use someone like you..so much hate
@thatcottagecorewitch5910
@thatcottagecorewitch5910 3 жыл бұрын
Good! 🥰
@kemiller2026
@kemiller2026 2 жыл бұрын
Hamilton: *literally has a mental breakdown and his life spirals after Laurens dies* Historians: Ah, yes, they must have been extremely close friends nothing was going on between them The letters: *…cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my dear Laurens, that it may be in my actions rather than words to convince you that I love you* Historians: …see, he said “friendships” they were just friends
@keenanalthavara3347
@keenanalthavara3347 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite composer: -writes "love me as I love you" in a letter to his "friend" -Starts a letter to said "friend" stating that the kiss he sent him comes from his heart -states in the same letter that all the sirens (aka ladies who flirted with him) in the world doesn't really matter to him and all he cares about was for the continuation of him and the "friend" 's "friendship" -Asks in the ending of a letter to the "friend" about his alleged marriage whether he still loves him or not, and vows that he (the composer) shall love the "friend" until his dying day Historians: Ah yes, a completely heterosexual dude who's also a total Casanova.
@andreah9587
@andreah9587 2 жыл бұрын
Which composer is this? Chopin?
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 жыл бұрын
It's Chopin isn't it?
@littlefawn1637
@littlefawn1637 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreah9587 It's actually Paganini and the "friend" is Luigi Germi!
@littlefawn1637
@littlefawn1637 2 жыл бұрын
@@ennui9745 nope, it's Paganini and the "friend" is Luigi Germi.
@ennui9745
@ennui9745 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlefawn1637 Thank you!
@nopenoodles255
@nopenoodles255 3 жыл бұрын
My gf and I joke about being ‘gal pals’ and ‘close friends’ because we find it funny, as when we are together we are obviously _together_. But I still call her ‘my friend’ when I’m talking to ppl I don’t really know. And every time it feels like I’m putting up a little shield to keep those people away, but in doing so I lose her in that version of me. It’s such a little thing, just four letter missing in front of the word ‘friend’. Dut in doing so, feels like a part of me and my life is missing. I don’t want to lose her in any version of me. I love her in all of them. Even if history would hate us. A sucky thing that an unfortunate number of queer people relate to.
@hetsteills2748
@hetsteills2748 3 жыл бұрын
i’m sorry this is so random but- this. this is so beautifully written and i didn’t expect to be on the verge of tears on a tuesday night at 12 am wtf
@Joplas99
@Joplas99 2 жыл бұрын
We must live in pride the love others lived in shame
@fleabaggins
@fleabaggins 2 жыл бұрын
“I don’t want to lose her in any version of me. I love her in all of them. Even if history would hate us.” Oh my god, that is the most beautiful thing I’ve heard in my life.
@drchicken2477
@drchicken2477 2 жыл бұрын
@@hetsteills2748 wtf? i'm also here on the verge of tears (aka weeping) on a tuesday night at 12 am :o
@thatrandomchick3607
@thatrandomchick3607 Жыл бұрын
My dumbass was interpreting “those four words” to be best. Like best friends. And I was like “did you even hear the song??” Promptly realized the 4 letters are girl and I am stupid
@rosie_music9022
@rosie_music9022 3 жыл бұрын
during the WW II there were three Polish guys - Tadeusz Zawadzki - his nickname was Zośka, Jan Bytnar - nickname Rudy and Maciej Aleksy Dawidowski - nickname Alek. They were best friends. They were about 20 years old when they were fighting against the Nazis by for example recapturing the prisoners, taking off the Nazi flags or writing texts against them on the walls. But between two of them - Rudy and Zośka - there was a special relationship. Then the Nazis captured Rudy and tortured him to get the information about the organization he was in. He didn't say anything. The Nazis hurt him so badly that he was dying. Zośka visited him in the prison. Rudy was complaining about his pain, but in the same time he was saying how wonderful he was feeling. He said that they will travel to the countryside and live together while he would heal. Then he told Zośka to lie down next to him. He hugged his head and felt asleep. Yeah, historians call them best friends. Historians say that telling that they were in love is offending the memory about them. History hates lovers...
@inspirujacyimajestatyczyni9998
@inspirujacyimajestatyczyni9998 3 жыл бұрын
Ok even if they were actually "only friends" the sentence "historians say that telling that they were in love is offending their memory" is so funny to me. Oh yes the most insulting thing in the world, saying that someone might have not been straight
@fagnasu
@fagnasu 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any confirmed info that they might not be besties, but in love? Or only denying?
@beegirl851
@beegirl851 2 жыл бұрын
Oh bless you for writing about them! It's an absolutely heartbreaking story
@dr.petrov9630
@dr.petrov9630 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t they have girlfriends?
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.petrov9630 Wilde had a wife, don't think that's much of a point
@X_LYL_LCRB
@X_LYL_LCRB 3 жыл бұрын
I'll dedicate this song to Patroclus and Achilles' / Hamilton and Laurens' "friendship" and Sappho's "heterosexuality" Ps.: I genuinely loved this song so much!! Edit: Grammar mistake (English isn't my first language, srry)
@reyniedaze2413
@reyniedaze2413 3 жыл бұрын
just like "I want to be buried with this man I love him" AH YES HETEROSEXUALITY
@X_LYL_LCRB
@X_LYL_LCRB 3 жыл бұрын
@@reyniedaze2413 Exactly!! Do people actually consider THAT friendship??
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@X_LYL_LCRB
@X_LYL_LCRB 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianaalves6655 Really?!?! Thank you!! ^w^
@ezresagen2140
@ezresagen2140 Жыл бұрын
Add in Isabella of Prama and her sister-in-law. There are VERY EXPLICIT letters between the two. They were so clearly lovers!
@javidamico9510
@javidamico9510 3 жыл бұрын
"2 kids and a golden retriever" 😫😫 loved it
@Bxnnyyyyyyy
@Bxnnyyyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
my history teacher to us: "Historians suck these days, these men were probably more then Comrades and were lovers." i love that dude- And his husband
@hallo4651
@hallo4651 2 жыл бұрын
nothing sus
@animalprotectionclub7011
@animalprotectionclub7011 Жыл бұрын
That's AWESOME. Turn every history teacher in the world to your's.
@sapphicsapphire82
@sapphicsapphire82 Жыл бұрын
Achilles and Patroclus?
@dogarf3516
@dogarf3516 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say... *history has its eyes on you*
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 2 жыл бұрын
AH-HA, A FELLOW HAMILFAN
@arsoncos__8331
@arsoncos__8331 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianaalves6655 yes
@H1k1k0mori_Gh0st
@H1k1k0mori_Gh0st 2 жыл бұрын
A FELLOW HAMILTON FAN HELLO
@catsolotal9904
@catsolotal9904 2 жыл бұрын
This comment satisfied me
@lilymortensen3344
@lilymortensen3344 2 жыл бұрын
In history one could say "I will never be satisfied"
@cramerfloro5936
@cramerfloro5936 3 жыл бұрын
I’m realizing how lucky i was with my highschool teachers, who (mostly) didn’t give two flying F*cks of historian’s hate of loving relationships, and just told us of most of the queer relationships, that they knew of. Of course they couldn’t get away with everything. I remember when my literature teacher taught us the biography of Giacomo Leopardi, one of the most esteemed and respected poets of Italian Literature, and when she told us how he lived the last part of his life with the writer Antonio Ranieri, who took care of him and was his emotional support at the very end of his sickness, she told us “just remember that there still is a hot debate among historians about what exactly the nature of their “Friendship” was”, and she paused and gave us that look, that look that says “You know what I mean…”
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
Leopardi couldn't have been more bi if he'd trained for it like....
@sirmodstan5489
@sirmodstan5489 2 жыл бұрын
OMG IM ITALIAN AND HAD NO CLUE WHY DON'T THEY WRITE THIS STUFF IN BOOKS ISTG I LIVE NEAR LEOPARDI'S HOMETOWN
@RavenSutcliffe
@RavenSutcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirmodstan5489 I think "why don't they write this stuff in books" is the whole point xD I honestly think if Wilde hadn't gone out the way he did, they'd be talking about his "close friendship" with Bosie Douglas DaVinci literally doodled d*cks in his sketchbooks and little comments about his model/lover (the one who posed for Saint John The Baptist) as well as various of his apprentices and apparently whether or not he was into men is "up for debate", too
@skidibop2296
@skidibop2296 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who is deeply invested in history i love this, i can confirm that almost every historian will ignore the fact that two same sex "friends" are actually in love. btw this song is so damn catchy like i can't-
@head_inthestars
@head_inthestars 3 жыл бұрын
That song reminds me of one of my French teachers. She didn't seem really comfortable explaining how Rimbaud and Verlaine (two of the most famous French writers) were a couple for years (it ended quite sadly but we stan a good gay couple that's recognized) and she was keeping her face down as she didn't want to see our faces while she was saying it 😂
@billie1129
@billie1129 2 жыл бұрын
ouais sauf que Verlaine était beaucoup plus vieux que Rimbaud c'était un peu zarb et en plus il lui a tiré dans la jambe ce bâtard. moi c'était l'opposé complet. mon prof était hyper progressiste sur la question du coup on avait droit à la vie sentimentale complète de tous les auteurs. du style, oui Marguerite Yourcenar et Grace Frick elle vivaient toutes les deux dans une petite maison aux US, Jean-Luc Lagarce il était gay et quand il a écrit "Juste la fin du monde" il venait de choper le sida et il croyait qu'il allait mourir. et y en a plein d'autres...Marcel Proust dit dans son questionnaire qu'il aime chez les hommes les "charmes féminins" ;) et Van Gogh qui a proposé à Gauguin qu'il vienne vivre avec lui quand il était dans la merde, puis après quand Gauguin s'est barré, Van Gogh a pété une crise et s'est coupé l'oreille...ça met la puce à l'oreille, sans mauvais jeu de mots.
@naturazpolski9213
@naturazpolski9213 Жыл бұрын
It has the same power like teachers that are too embarrased to say the word ,,sex" in front of the students. If you are embarrased to say it, you should reconsider working with youth!
@Kolxya
@Kolxya Жыл бұрын
LMAO, FR?
@kiera1200
@kiera1200 7 ай бұрын
@@Kolxyawtf r u doing here
@Kolxya
@Kolxya 7 ай бұрын
@@kiera1200 WHY ARE YOU HERE.
@eijiroukirishima4398
@eijiroukirishima4398 2 жыл бұрын
I love that my teacher will straight up say that they were lovers instead of friends, it so nice to think that not every history teacher will cover it up
@MinisDunyasi5
@MinisDunyasi5 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had your history teacher, my history teacher will always call them “best friends”. *sigh* history hates lovers.
@MinisDunyasi5
@MinisDunyasi5 Жыл бұрын
When a man writes to another man saying “If I could marry you I would, but the law stands between us, my dearest, lover. How do you think about running away to a small remote island where there will only be two of us, please consider this my lover, I’m tired of hiding my love towards you around others. I don’t care about anyone else but you love. - Yours sincerely” Historians: “sUcH cLoSe FRieNds” When a man writes to a woman “dear” Historians: LOVERS
@noonelooksatusers
@noonelooksatusers 4 ай бұрын
man: *breathes in the general direction of a woman* historians: AND THEY WERE LOVERS *cough those two mythological characters who are seen as lovers but are today are only known to interact by sitting on the same couch once*
@uberdriver6016
@uberdriver6016 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite examples of this was the tomb of the “brothers”! They are literally depicted in the same position that married couples were in on all the tomb paintings! And yet the historians are like “ah yes! Brothers!”
@noonelooksatusers
@noonelooksatusers 4 ай бұрын
and they were tombmates!
@iliadaandodisea
@iliadaandodisea 3 күн бұрын
If we were to follow that logic.... wouldn't it be more weird that two related family members were depicted the same way as a couple? Edit: just checked up on this and apparently there is actually pretty damn good evidence to say they were (half) brothers.
@albedoslab6895
@albedoslab6895 3 жыл бұрын
I LITERALLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS AND IT CAME OUT YESTERDAY AND I WAS RUSHING TO LOOK FOR THIS WHEN I REMEMBERED I LOVE IT SO MUCH-
@Cup_o_Caffeine
@Cup_o_Caffeine 3 жыл бұрын
Whos
@albedoslab6895
@albedoslab6895 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cup_o_Caffeine i corrected it I hope now it makes more sense,I was rushing to write that because I needed to help my father with soemthing
@jamesnugent2213
@jamesnugent2213 2 жыл бұрын
*Achilles and Patroclus:* "When I am dead, I charge you to mingle our ashes and bury us together." *Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens:* "Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you." *David and Jonathan:* "Now Jonathan again caused David to vow, because he loved him; for he loved him as he loved his own soul." *Daniel and Ashpenaz:* "Now God had brought Daniel to Ashpenaz, the prince of the eunuchs, he showed mercy and engaged in physical love with Daniel." *Historians:* Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were just bEsT fRiEnDs.
@eleanorcatherino3839
@eleanorcatherino3839 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Ruth and Naomi in the Bible, she literally said a marraige vow to her
@eleanorcatherino3839
@eleanorcatherino3839 2 жыл бұрын
But Ruth said, "Do not press me to leave you or to turn back from following you! Where you go, I will go; where you lodge, I will lodge; your people shall be my people, and your God my God. 17 Where you die, I will die- there will I be buried. May the Lord do thus and so to me, and more as well, if even death parts me from you!"
@thepencillovinglegend5634
@thepencillovinglegend5634 Жыл бұрын
@@eleanorcatherino3839 wow! you know what the bible also says?? וְאֶ֨ת־זָכָ֔ר לֹ֥א תִשְׁכַּ֖ב מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י אִשָּׁ֑ה תּֽוֹעֵבָ֖ה הִֽוא:‎ "Ve'et-zachar lo tishkav mishkevei ishah to'evah hi." Ve'et- (And) zachar (a male) lo (not) tishkav (you shall lie) mishkevei (beds of/coitally) ishah (a woman) to'evah (an abomination) hi (it)
@neanxie7601
@neanxie7601 Жыл бұрын
@@eleanorcatherino3839no but Naomi was older than Ruth 😅Naomi was her mother in law that time
@eleanorcatherino3839
@eleanorcatherino3839 Жыл бұрын
@@neanxie7601 I mean, considering the Bible and the time it’s probably the most wholesome you’re gonna get
@genderfluidpileofmushandge9634
@genderfluidpileofmushandge9634 3 жыл бұрын
Gay lovers be like: Historians after listening to this: Ahhhh so besties
@Hawthorn_09
@Hawthorn_09 10 ай бұрын
My history class was joking about how we should watch Hamilton, and my teacher’s argument on why we wouldn’t was because it wasn’t really accurate because “it was more likely that Hamilton was having an affair with John Laurens than Angelica” and that shut everyone up real quick for some reason 💀
@Yanagapa_
@Yanagapa_ 9 ай бұрын
HELP
@Shsy7573
@Shsy7573 5 ай бұрын
Petition to re-write Hamilton but with this frankly much more historically accurate plotline…
@Hawthorn_09
@Hawthorn_09 5 ай бұрын
@@Shsy7573 I'll sign 🙏
@spaghetae5679
@spaghetae5679 3 жыл бұрын
“close friends, besties, roommates, colleagues anything but lovers” this part playing in my mind on repeat
@bichiligx
@bichiligx 3 жыл бұрын
I love this song so much. I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT PATROCHILLES 💖💖💖
@paniccastiel6690
@paniccastiel6690 3 жыл бұрын
Same!! This song is for them!! Like clearly Achilles and Patroclus were mad lovers
@rekigod1902
@rekigod1902 3 жыл бұрын
This song makes me think a lot about Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens, especially the part of "too many handwritten letters, signed to my dearest with love". If you have read the letters, you know what I'm talking about, if you haven't, I suggest you do and tell me if you agree with historians calling them "best buddies"
@wormbag80
@wormbag80 2 жыл бұрын
YOU CAN'T TELL ME THEY WEREN'T IN LOVE
@arsoncos__8331
@arsoncos__8331 2 жыл бұрын
I AGREE WITH THIS SO MUCH
@marysummers233
@marysummers233 2 жыл бұрын
Hamilton’s grandson (maybe great correct me if I’m wrong) call Lafayette, Lauren’s, and Hamilton the “gay trio” and everyone’s argument is that it means happy but the name happy trio? Doesn’t make sense to me.
@billcipher8645
@billcipher8645 2 жыл бұрын
@@marysummers233 bruh historian moment
@MinisDunyasi5
@MinisDunyasi5 2 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hamilton to John Laurens "Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my dear Laurens, it might be in my power by action rather than words to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that till you bade us adieu, I hardly knew the value you taught my heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done. You know the opinion I entertain of mankind and how much it is my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments and to keep my happiness independent to the caprice of others. You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal into my affections without consent. But as you have done it and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue to merit the partiality, which you have artfully instilled into me.” Historians: Ah yes, bEsT FriENdS.
@george8277
@george8277 2 жыл бұрын
"Cold in my professions- warm in my friendships- I wish, my Dear Laurens, it were in my power, by actions rather than words, to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that 'till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you." - A bit of Alexander Hamilton's letter to John Laurens. Historians: Naw bro, they were best friends!
@elidrawz8346
@elidrawz8346 2 жыл бұрын
YESS I WAS JUST ABT TO COMMENT ABT THEM !! also hamilton signing off letters to laurens w "yrs for ever" and writing to him while he was imprisoned, but sure they were just Very Close Friends
@george8277
@george8277 2 жыл бұрын
@@elidrawz8346 they had more intimacy then he had with the schuyler sisters because what he wanted from them was legacy.
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 жыл бұрын
"Alexander, you're the *closest friend* I got"
@george8277
@george8277 2 жыл бұрын
@YVES Sorry! I kind of just focused on the most popular bit people know-
@elenas3571
@elenas3571 3 жыл бұрын
Historians: Sappho was simply writing about her students and the _platonic_ love she felt for them! Us: “THEIR IS NO HETEROSEXUAL EXPLANATION FOR THIS!”
@RowanDrake47
@RowanDrake47 Күн бұрын
Historians: 'She's quoted as saying that her husband was one Kerkylas of Andros, she was obviously straight.' Anyone with a brain and knowledge of Greek: 'That practically translates to Dick Allcock of Man Island, that's the most lesbian joke I've ever heard!'
@starchimedes
@starchimedes 3 жыл бұрын
imagine the potential this could've had in 2016-17, like the hamilton fandom would have CLAIMED this.
@elyzionite
@elyzionite 3 жыл бұрын
The amrev Tumblr claimed it instead :DD
@amandalynn4979
@amandalynn4979 3 жыл бұрын
Oh honey. We're still here.
@TeaBeeLeaves12
@TeaBeeLeaves12 3 жыл бұрын
We're still around. Always will be...
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 жыл бұрын
YaS
@majelicajham
@majelicajham 2 жыл бұрын
We're still here
@NatFloofer
@NatFloofer 3 жыл бұрын
George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Achilles, Patroclus, Sappho, and so many more needed to bee seen! I love this song so much!
@NatFloofer
@NatFloofer 2 жыл бұрын
@YVES well, it is possible that George Washington could've been gay. Of course, it'll be hard to know because of the same reason this song was made.
@NatFloofer
@NatFloofer 2 жыл бұрын
@YVES fair, I may have gotten my research wrong. There's a lot of suspiciously flowery personal letters.
@kayosaurus0128
@kayosaurus0128 2 жыл бұрын
I'm literally reading "The Song Of Achilles" right now, perfect song to play in the background lmao
@getinloserweregoingshopping947
@getinloserweregoingshopping947 2 жыл бұрын
this was 5 months ago you probably finished the book so im just checking up on you
@ferdinandarroza548
@ferdinandarroza548 2 жыл бұрын
You okay now?
@dnjndnjnreoppqnpfw0
@dnjndnjnreoppqnpfw0 2 жыл бұрын
you still emotionally damaged?
@sabela6725
@sabela6725 2 жыл бұрын
No answer means no 😂
@rissaver5199
@rissaver5199 3 жыл бұрын
First thing coming up to my mind: Achilles and Patrochilles. Our teacher told us right away, that even though our text books say they were only friends and cousins, they were also lovers. And back then it was pretty common. Many other things controversial now, were normal back then. Why should we cover it up? Because it would piss off some people that can't accept the fact that love is love?
@littlefawn1637
@littlefawn1637 3 жыл бұрын
"The kiss I send you comes from my heart... All the sirens in the world may go to the devil. All I care for is the continuance of your friendship." "Although I miss your companionship, you sent me such a dear and charming letter, that not content with reading it myself, I enlivened a brilliant conversation with extracts from it." "Let me soon have the joy of clasping you to my heart. I have so many things to say to you that will give you pleasure. Love me as I love you." "How are you, mio caro? Do you still love me? I shall love you till my dying day." "Times are not too auspicious, but life is too short. It bids us not to waste it. Heaven send that I may see you again before I die." "Do not cease to love me. I live only for you and for my son." "If I return home and live near you, I shall prolong my days." "Without you I am a body without a soul." "Come post haste. I am in need of your comfort." "I hope to live many more years and to have the happiness of embracing you again-a consolation which may almost be compared to the bliss of lovely and genuine music." "I beseech you to love me." "Never stop loving me. I cannot tell you what a comfort your letter was.[...] I embrace you tenderly." (Excerpts of letters from N.P to L.G.G, taken from Renee de Saussine's biography of N.P)
@thatcottagecorewitch5910
@thatcottagecorewitch5910 3 жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder that Anne Frank was bi and that several pages of her diary were glued together because she wrote about having a crush on one of the girls in her class.
@elyzionite
@elyzionite 3 жыл бұрын
WAIT REALLY?? AYY WHAT A QUEEN! Btw do you have any sources 👀
@loki1456
@loki1456 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, fifteen pages of her diary were removed. In them, she talks about being moved near to tears seeing the Venus De Milo and said she wished she had a girlfriend. It's very wholesome.
@ii_strangerxxthings
@ii_strangerxxthings 2 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? SO YOURE SAYING I THOUGHT I READ HER ENTIRE DIARY IN SCHOOL AND TURNS OUT PARTS WERE PURPOSELLY TAKEN OUT?? God historians really do hate lovers..
@animalprotectionclub7011
@animalprotectionclub7011 Жыл бұрын
BICON.
@hemingshark327
@hemingshark327 Жыл бұрын
@@elyzionite The Diary of a Young Girl is the source I'm relatively sure of it.
@SunshineDeathboy
@SunshineDeathboy 3 жыл бұрын
This is giving me so much Patroclus and Achilles vibes.. Also, all those LGBT couples from the Greek Era.. That was somehow revised to the morning tales.. Making them just friends..
@ppriyaswiftictioner9599
@ppriyaswiftictioner9599 3 жыл бұрын
"How many decades of hiding?" I felt that😭😭
@marblecloudsss7425
@marblecloudsss7425 2 жыл бұрын
“with whom I am more in love than ever” “My God, what an angelic creature and how I long to be his slave, his plaything, his property! ”My rendezvous had been arranged for this evening. A truly bitter-sweet dilemma! Finally I decided to go. I spent two absolutely wonderful hours in the most romantic circumstances; I was scared, I was thrilled, I was afraid of the slightest sound. Embraces, kisses, an out-of-the-way apartment… tender talk, what delight!” -Tchaikovsky
@eligal643
@eligal643 2 жыл бұрын
EXCUSE ME????
@sachsoup
@sachsoup 2 жыл бұрын
"how I long to be his slave" damn, I didn't know Tchaikovsky was this... kin-
@eligal643
@eligal643 2 жыл бұрын
@@sachsoup omg i didnt even notice that 😭😭😭😭
@drchicken2477
@drchicken2477 2 жыл бұрын
@@sachsoup and plaything and property, too!
@anthnforourmoony
@anthnforourmoony Жыл бұрын
kInkYyy
@winogronkowa
@winogronkowa 3 жыл бұрын
I need other version of this but with: "And history will call them... enemies, foes, opponents"
@Willa1901
@Willa1901 2 жыл бұрын
YES THO
@allshookup1640
@allshookup1640 2 жыл бұрын
As a historian, I can say that I 100% do NOT hate lovers. I do annoy my colleagues a bit though because I may or may not have a bit of hair trigger for saying “or MAYBE they were lovers have we thought of that yet?!” You would be SHOCKED how many historical documents heavily hint at close close relationships that COULD very well be lovers and it’s immediately dismissed.
@haleyadors23
@haleyadors23 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hamilton and John Laurens Historians: and they were good friends
@samrtherat
@samrtherat 3 жыл бұрын
"Good friends" 😂
@_..Rae.._
@_..Rae.._ 3 жыл бұрын
"aNd ThEy WeRe RoOmMaTeS"
@ren9879
@ren9879 2 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaah good friends let's stick to this idea...
@adrianaalves6655
@adrianaalves6655 2 жыл бұрын
"And I took that personally"
@Hey_0.0
@Hey_0.0 2 жыл бұрын
CoLd iN mY pRofEsSioNs WaRm iN mY fRienDsHipS I wiSh mY dEar LaUreNs- *cries*
@laurenholm2288
@laurenholm2288 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the "friendship" between John Laurens and Alexander Hamilton because there is proof they did love each other
@caitlindare2137
@caitlindare2137 3 жыл бұрын
I'm French and in my textbook it was written that Rimbaud and Verlaine had a "passionate friendship" and my teacher told us they weren't friends but lovers- But I think their couple is one of the most recognised gay couple of history (in another textbook it was clear they weren't just friends it was written that they had a passionate relation but the words couple or lovers were never written)
@CrackInDaSauce
@CrackInDaSauce Жыл бұрын
I love those gay people
@dizzyandkoko
@dizzyandkoko 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best thing about this is the fact that it isn't explicitly gay. To me, that just makes it feel more honest and treats these relationships like what they are, real love between two people. Also, I can just see some homophobe singing this thinking it's some Romeo and Juliette story.
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza Жыл бұрын
That last bit would be funny
@noonelooksatusers
@noonelooksatusers 4 ай бұрын
@@Lord_Medieval_Pizzasame energy as a right conservative singing "take me to church" lmfao
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza
@Lord_Medieval_Pizza 4 ай бұрын
@@noonelooksatusers o_o
@kyokajirou4068
@kyokajirou4068 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting too long for this masterpiece between I love your voice sow much
@mikustan3179
@mikustan3179 3 жыл бұрын
People living together, sleeping in the same bed, kissing, having kids etc. Historians: "They were friends, good friends, acquaintances 😊👌"
@バグ-g3v
@バグ-g3v 3 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the best songs I’ve ever heard, by far. I cannot explain how much this song means to me, as a queer trans man :]
@mushroomhollow5735
@mushroomhollow5735 3 жыл бұрын
This song is amazing
@sk3llyb0nes
@sk3llyb0nes 3 жыл бұрын
And when you try and bring up the multiple accounts of evidence showing that they were clearly in love, people be like "WhY dO yOu HaVe To MaKe EvErYtHiNg GaY???"
@raddkabalogova9904
@raddkabalogova9904 2 жыл бұрын
Because that IS GAY! You can't tell me otherwise. If we see gay then it's gay. I will never understant people who think that we make everything gay cause'that is gay🏳️‍🌈
@Shsy7573
@Shsy7573 5 ай бұрын
I hate that response so much, because as a younger kid it would actually work in making me shut up and feel bad. Now I know better. Why do we “make everything gay.” Hm. Well. Maybe because you made everything straight for so long we’re having to work overtime to correct your literal CENTURIES WORTH of oppression and censoring. Why do YOU think that straight is the default and anything that strays too much from that is weird or invasive?
@KoolKittKat4679
@KoolKittKat4679 Жыл бұрын
I come back to this song when I feel horrible about the state of the USA, and cry. I hope ANYONE being effected by these new laws against the LGBTQA+ community stays safe and know even though the government wants to erase you, you will never be silenced and you are loved by many people who will support you.
@_fireflower_
@_fireflower_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that the complete song _came out_
@alesunflower2164
@alesunflower2164 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you want to be close friends, in a historical way" is now the best way to flirt with someone
@stuartwilliams3206
@stuartwilliams3206 3 жыл бұрын
As a historian, I can say that indeed, we don't actually call people who are in love "lovers". Especially, when love for them is forbidden.
@jeff4762
@jeff4762 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask why that is?
@stuartwilliams3206
@stuartwilliams3206 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeff4762 what forbidden means? It's when u are not allowed to have something. In this case, maybe the people we are talking about are the same gender, or from different families that are currently at war
@jeff4762
@jeff4762 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuartwilliams3206 Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for clearing that up.
@sleepydreams9046
@sleepydreams9046 3 жыл бұрын
Even If those people are long dead?
@stuartwilliams3206
@stuartwilliams3206 3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepydreams9046 in what way for u mean?
@Annie-on3tu
@Annie-on3tu 3 жыл бұрын
Dios realmente esperé demasiado por esto pero es más que obvio que valió la pena la espera ♡
@thefionacrowshow
@thefionacrowshow 8 ай бұрын
Hamilton: *sends a very explicit letter to John Laurens* Historians: Hmm.. Friends!
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852 3 жыл бұрын
Es increíble el arte que hace, no solo la canción de banana fish, sino está y las demás de su canal, espero que sigas creciendo ❤️
@OldCorvid
@OldCorvid 3 жыл бұрын
De qué? 👁💧👄💧👁
@lapinatadelafiesta
@lapinatadelafiesta 3 жыл бұрын
Banana Fish? 🥲💔
@cadennemcdaris788
@cadennemcdaris788 2 жыл бұрын
Did Google Translate goof up or did this amazing songwriter write a song about banana fish?
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852 2 жыл бұрын
@@lapinatadelafiesta hizo una canción que Eiji le dedicaba a Ash
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852
@navarretecasadofatimacathe9852 2 жыл бұрын
@@cadennemcdaris788 Google has not been wrong, I really create one and it is impressive
@lamaralzahrani5584
@lamaralzahrani5584 3 жыл бұрын
finally the time we’ve all been waiting for AHHHHH
@millinemouse1162
@millinemouse1162 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me appreciate my 8th grade text book a lot more. In the Philippines our history and world history is taught in our country's language, tagalog (Araling Panlipunan/Social Studies) and I remember how nonchalant the writers were when talking about queer lovers. From what I can remember (cuz I didn't really study that well) when we were discussing greek writers like Sappho of Lesbos the book blatantly said, "Si Sappho ay isang manunulat na sumulat ayon sa pagmamahal sa pagitan ng dalawang taong may parehong kasarian." "Sappho was a writer that wrote about the love between two people of the same sex." Even in our zoom call with the class our teacher was also very blunt about it.
@chuubaccatheworld9075
@chuubaccatheworld9075 2 жыл бұрын
omg talaga ba??? kapag catholic private school ko may nakitang ganto siguro i cocover up nila JDHDJSJSJS
@spirit2117
@spirit2117 3 жыл бұрын
I was listening to this nonstop in history class and almost cried. Definitely one of my new favorite songs.
@maffieeee
@maffieeee 3 жыл бұрын
YAAASSSS ESPERE ESTO DURANTE 12 DÍAS, Y LO VALIO CADA MALDITO SEGUNDO
@5tarSailor
@5tarSailor 6 ай бұрын
Pride is once again upon us, and as is tradition, it's time to come back to this song.
@TheCarrot11
@TheCarrot11 6 ай бұрын
Happy pride 2024, to all of us.
@aruxani
@aruxani 3 жыл бұрын
They both loved eachother. She wanted to protect her from this cruel world. She joined the Survey Corps just for her, after all. The girl with royal blood. She didn't expect to fall in love with her though. She was like a goddess. Everyone loved her. She never told her how she felt. All she did was make jokes about marrying her. At least, everyone saw them as jokes. Eventually... Everything came to an end when she picked the wrong side and they were forced apart. She had little time to live. So she wrote a letter as a final goodbye... Saying how she regretted that she never married her. And so, the tale of the girl with royal blood and her protector ended in a tragedy. Because Historians hate lovers.
@loki1456
@loki1456 2 жыл бұрын
Why must you do this? That hurted.
@aruxani
@aruxani 2 жыл бұрын
@@loki1456 Sorry 😭😭 I also wanted to do an Eremika version-
@Yeyeye8431
@Yeyeye8431 2 жыл бұрын
@@aruxani DO IT PLEASE
@aruxani
@aruxani 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yeyeye8431 I might 👀
@quinnlee-newbury9003
@quinnlee-newbury9003 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful song. I'd like to think this helps all the millions of people who never got to show off their love
@rebma8829
@rebma8829 3 жыл бұрын
This song: Future historians: Yes yes, a very hetero song about very hetero people, obviously
@Joplas99
@Joplas99 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously about interracial straight couples suffering from discriminate
@literallysatan5495
@literallysatan5495 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of an argument I had with my history teacher about a dude being gay because normal freinds don't wanna have their ashes mixed
@donyabagheri6455
@donyabagheri6455 3 жыл бұрын
i fell inlove with this girl at school during a school production we were in and i told my mum and she just said "it was just the heat of the stage, and what about that boy you met?" I NEVER LIKD HIM BRUH
@Mollyarty
@Mollyarty 2 жыл бұрын
1:52 whenever I listen to this song I always sing that as "With hopes to settle down, between their thighs" lol
@davidstratton696
@davidstratton696 2 жыл бұрын
Oh lol
@rhayz
@rhayz 3 жыл бұрын
Just me casually singing this in front of my homophobic family 😁
@willywonka_.
@willywonka_. 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao mood
@imatcpell1987
@imatcpell1987 3 жыл бұрын
RIP
@S4tnns_dollf1e
@S4tnns_dollf1e 3 жыл бұрын
YES PREACH🏳️‍🌈
@EmmyJeanBean
@EmmyJeanBean 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a video of their reaction 😂
@seriengirl4604
@seriengirl4604 2 жыл бұрын
Saaaame 😂
@Len..K
@Len..K 3 жыл бұрын
This is really making me wonder how many beautiful love stories history has forgotten because certain people deemed them wrong
@sophieAllAlong-15
@sophieAllAlong-15 5 ай бұрын
Alexander Hamilton and John Laurence inventing sexting before the damn phone Historians: LiKe BRotHeRS!
@inkthelosermoonshine2094
@inkthelosermoonshine2094 3 жыл бұрын
~and historians will call them~ Close friends Besties Roomates Colleagues Anything but lovers, history hates lovers Sidekicks Family Good pals Buddies Anything but lovers ~history hates lovers~
@nighttempus5827
@nighttempus5827 3 жыл бұрын
Historical Alexander Hamilton and John Laurence that’s all I gotta says
@RandomNerd654
@RandomNerd654 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, lovelies! As a person obsessed with history who’s under the Bi-umbrella, I literally strive to be that historian who actually talks about queer history- denying it is denying part of history itself. All people are valid
@galahadyouknowwhat2224
@galahadyouknowwhat2224 2 жыл бұрын
As a Historian, some of us are trying to change this!
@pixels4331
@pixels4331 3 жыл бұрын
the way she says colleagues makes my brain go watery, i love it sm
@emilygordbort7300
@emilygordbort7300 3 жыл бұрын
i heard the chorus in a meme and came to the song and damn this hits way harder than i expected i think i might cry
@colaheart_7442
@colaheart_7442 2 жыл бұрын
Historians will always try to hide the gay historic relationships, but for Apollo from Greek Mythology… they can’t even, he was such a raging bisexual that they practically don’t even try to cover it up
@hermitsunite953
@hermitsunite953 2 жыл бұрын
The entire Greek history is gay and they don't even try to hide it
@CrackInDaSauce
@CrackInDaSauce Жыл бұрын
They can't cover it up he's too gay
@athanasia176
@athanasia176 10 ай бұрын
They did try tho 😂😂
@colaheart_7442
@colaheart_7442 10 ай бұрын
Yeah cause him and Hyacinthus were just “really good friends”
@FaphneDalce
@FaphneDalce 3 жыл бұрын
You have an incredible voice and this song fills me with joy
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