Oud soundboard (Episode 04) - Bracing

I posted a video about bracing the soundboard of the Oud, but there were some missed details. In this new video, I cover even more details of the process.
- This time, with the benefit of using my handmade thickness gauge, the sound distortion decreases and the sound quality from the D string and higher G becomes very nice and close.
- The adhesive used in the process is traditional hide glue, prepared using the bain-marie (double boiler) method.
- The final thickness is 2mm all over the soundboard.
This is a highly precise and delicate process involved in the creation of the Oud instrument. It involves crafting the soul of the Oud, and as far as I know, it is still very experimental. This is because there are numerous factors at play, such as the quality and density of the wood, the thickness, height, and shape of the braces, among others.
I am currently on this journey, and I would greatly appreciate your comments, points of view, and experiences to help me improve. Please do not hesitate to share them with me. 🙏❤️
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سعی کردم تو این ویدیو نسبت به ویدیوی قبلی که در مورد پل بندی صفحه عود تو کانالم گذاشته بودم، جزییات بیشتری رو پوشش بدم. هرچند هنوز بسیاری جزییات ناگفته میمونه.
- این بار به مدد استفاده از ضخامت سنج دست سازی که ویدیوش رو قبلا تو کانال میتونید مشاهده بفرمایید، تونستم مقدار زیادی از اعوجاج صدا و نزدیکی صدای سیم «ر» و «سل» رو کم کنم.
- چسب مورد استفاده‌م «سیریشوم» هست که پایه حیوانی داره و ساخت یزد هست و به شیوه‌ی بن ماری آماده میشه.
- ضخامت تمام جاهای صفحه به ۲ میلیمتر رسید
واقعا ساخت صفحه عود، تراشیدن روح ساز هست و بخاطر وجود فاکتورهای متعدد مثل کیفیت و تراکم چوب، پل بندی (از نظر ضخامت، کیفیت، طراحی، ارتفاع و...) و همچنین عدم اشتراک گذاری اطلاعات دقیق این بخش بین سازنده‌ها، همچنان یه مرحله‌ی تجربی به حساب میاد.
من هم به عنوان یه فرد کنجکاو در این حوزه در حال تجربه‌ی این مراحل هستم، در نتیجه نظر و تجربه شما و همچنین دیدگاه‌تون در باره این مرحله برای من بسیار بسیار مفید و آموزنده خواهد بود. پس لطفا دیدگاه‌تون رو از بنده دریغ نکنید. سپاس 🙏❤️
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Video Segments:
00:00 Reaching 2mm thickness
02:19 Bridge and Braces plan
05:43 Cutting wood for braces
06:37 Gluing
08:31 Shaping braces
10:03 Result
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Making a Handmade Thickness Gauge: • Making a Handmade Thic...
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[@bralamzali2304]

👍👍👍👍👍🙏❤ Always within the standards, and the rules of the art, which are obviously, the choice of material, precision and calculations and slowness. Mashallah si Mansour.

[@mansouroud]

really thanks for your kind and generous compliment 🙏❤️ hope these videos to be helpful to others as well

[@wintermanmuzika7650]

Great job professional expert my favorite hobby oud and acoustic guitar or classic guitar

[@mansouroud]

such a lovely hoppy 😊❤️

[@SARI.687]

شكراً لك على هذا المحتوى النادر ❤️❤️

[@mansouroud]

you're welcome. I will make more videos about this part of the instrument, because there are lots of things missed and stay untold to others. I'm still seeking, searching and experiencing this important part myself 🙏❤️

[@mohammedmbarhdi8573]

very good

[@mansouroud]

Thanks

[@dustinbeasley]

Do you offer plans or know where to obtain them? I am interesting it building an Oud myself but there seems to be little technical information available. Thank you for sharing all these videos, very inspiring!

[@mansouroud]

I am currently working on completing my oud plan, which is based on the famous Nahat plan. I haven't added all the technical details yet, but I will release it as soon as possible. 🙏❤️

[@shaheenamrou]

By the way Mansour : I hope that you make a post about " How to fit and center the fingerboard " thank you .😊😊😊

[@mansouroud]

I have already recorded the footage, but I haven't edited it yet. I will edit and upload it soon❤️

[@shaheenamrou]

Thank you so much BRO.@@mansouroud

[@shaheenamrou]

Amazing and accurately distances ,and so clean work. Very well job Mansour. could I asking ? : why you didn't have cut the row ends of ribs before gluing to the soundboard ??

[@mansouroud]

Thank you for your attention and delicate question. Yes, maybe it comes from my frustration!😅 it is so interesting because I was exactly thinking about it during the process this time. and next time I will cut it first. but a very little tail I will leave for micro-adjustments in matching the soundboard to the bowl.

[@shaheenamrou]

That's great Mansour , I really like the man who is trying to find or creating the best ,that's give a signal that he is a very good creator ,honest and he always updating his experiences . thank you so much for all your posts and answering all questions of your followers. @@mansouroud

[@jo9280]

Hi Mansour, thank you so much for this beautiful video. I am currently starting my first oud build and found this video both informative and inspiring! I have a couple questions, is this soundboard for floating or fixed bridge? I am building a floating bridge oud and am having trouble finding information on how far to space the braces that are nearest to the bridge. Also wondering what pitch you are aiming for when you are checking the tap tone? thank you so much for any information you may be able to provide!

[@mansouroud]

hi. I'm happy that the videos have been helpful to you. this soundboard is for a fixed bridge oud. bracing is also really complex and unclear, because there is no standard and little information available, unfortunately. Still, for the floating bridge ouds the pressure of the bridge and the force it makes toward the soundboard is different than the fixed ones, so normally makers glue a thin patch layer under the bridge location to stop the bridge place from bending, make a curve and make a buzzing sound. also, place or design some braces close to the bridge place. about the pitch: I'm trying to find and hear the harmony of different sound textures between the left and right sides because I use different thicknesses on each side. slightly different

[@Saher0369]

درود استاد ببخشید صفحه که اماده کردید چهار تکه بود؟

[@mansouroud]

درود. ارادتمندم. نخیر، دو تیکه هست این صفحه. ویدیوی آماده کردن تیکه‌های صفحه تو پلی لیست آماده سازی صفحه هست.

[@shaheenamrou]

An other question 😊: what is the best : 2 or more peaces joined for soundboard???

[@mohammedmbarhdi8573]

2 peaces

[@shaheenamrou]

Thanks alot @@mohammedmbarhdi8573 ☺

[@mansouroud]

In my opinion, this is not a must to have just two pieces. I have already met very nice lovely sound ouds which are made from 4 pieces for the top. for example, because of the characteristics of the spruce wood, sometimes you face a very nice piece of spruce that has a very small kind of knot, or some noises and unparallel lines in some parts. this is where you can remove that part and make your soundboard in four pieces to ignore that unwanted part. why not! you'll have a parallel grain soundboard from the same piece of wood. save the wood, respect our sources also

[@shaheenamrou]

@@mansouroud You know Mansour ,that is because I made my own Oud by some one who is making Ouds. He used 4 peaces for the S.B but the sound was not good and there is a very small gab between tow of the parts mean not exactly parrelled under the moveable bridge it makes (zzzz). It is so defficult to treat , if I use sanding it that will scratch the face 🤨🤔😑😮‍💨

[@mansouroud]

brother, I didn't get your last line (about sanding). can you please explain it more? but about the soundboard, I would say this part is a world itself and how you make your soundboard is a real multi-element and factor thing. so it's hard to judge the whole concept based on one or two examples. based on my experiences, I have already seen a Sukar oud (not a very high-quality one) that has 4 pieces of soundboard and it sounds amazing! I want to say that how you prepare the soundboard is so important. but it is just my own point of view because I don't believe in any fixed rules in making instruments@@shaheenamrou

[@homayoonmosavi1365]

استاد عزیز درود این فواصل چند سانتیمتر میباشد

[@mansouroud]

درود به شما. متغیر هست فواصل. تو یه ویدیوی اختصاصی سعی میکنم به دلایل تقسیم بندی پل‌ها مفصل بپردازم. البته که همچنان خودم در حال یادگیریم 🙏❤️