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@macloviameier1232
@macloviameier1232 2 жыл бұрын
Lissane's father breaks my heart. His daughter was sensitive, respectful of life, it's not fair that he lost his daughter like that.
@cind8324
@cind8324 2 жыл бұрын
"Als ze terugkomt en ze ziet dit..." Pijnlijke zin. RIP
@samvexez8635
@samvexez8635 2 жыл бұрын
I've recently been looking into this case and I'm deeply saddened by what happened I have cried multiple times. I feel so much for this and all the pain they have endured. I can not begin to imagine the pain these parents have went through. Due to the large inconsistencies in the case we the people should keep looking into this and let the parents rest. I hope one day clarity comes and that the parents can get complete closure. Lisanne and kris I hope you're in heaven experiencing eternal bliss you have earned that.
@juliannfloress3490
@juliannfloress3490 Жыл бұрын
plinio and feliciano are the killers ...plinio montenegro.. he is the key..did u know that plinio took a pic of the exact same spot ( summit mirador ) with the exact same angle where the girls were on his instagram account? and guess what.....it is from 2014 april
@billsoprano4598
@billsoprano4598 7 жыл бұрын
I am from Central America and if any of you tourist people want to go in expeditions please you have to be strongly prepared for it. It's really normal to watch people from europe or usa going to dangerous places dressing and using the worst kind of equipement. So take care and may God have those two beautiful girls by His side.
@mariex7855
@mariex7855 7 жыл бұрын
Bill Soprano in this video they say it was in a safe town where a lot of.girls just walked in the nights, it was known as just safe and that that wouldn't be risk. What country are you from btw?
@leonprentice8371
@leonprentice8371 3 жыл бұрын
If you have seen wolf creek one and two you see that it only appear safe with the right certain stances
@schpiedie
@schpiedie 3 жыл бұрын
@@segoiii It's very sad and very unfair, but especially as young women a hike like the two girls went on is very, very dangerous. You may be lucky or you might not. After gathering as much information on this case as I could I don't belive in an accident or that they got lost. If they were injured after that last photo they took they clearly would have stayed on the trail and they would have been found then. If they would have moved then backwards not deeper into the jungle. Why were their bras found in the backpack? Why would you do something like this? If you would try to cross a river you would not just put the bras to the backpack would you? Very, very strange. Looks like someone was involved in this. The only thing I can imagine as a reason for wandering deeper into the jungle is that you are terrified by something awaiting you if you go back.
@froggylegspeople
@froggylegspeople 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Soprano You could be right, but the case is they were only going for a walk. Their hikes were planned for the coming days.
@sonialucia1101
@sonialucia1101 2 жыл бұрын
They are cannibals
@user-qt5gd8xj8u
@user-qt5gd8xj8u 6 жыл бұрын
Afschuwelijk om dit achteraf te zien met de wetenschap wat er met de meiden gebeurd is. Heel veel sterkte voor de nabestaanden.
@shennadegreef3010
@shennadegreef3010 4 жыл бұрын
Wat is er gebeurd
@droneshotsantoine1805
@droneshotsantoine1805 3 жыл бұрын
@MJ nee niet waar
@Jasmijn1
@Jasmijn1 3 жыл бұрын
@@droneshotsantoine1805 officieel zegt het onderzoeksteam van Panama dat ze zijn verongelukt. Ik heb er zelf onderzoek naar gedaan en als je kijkt naar het bewijs wat is verzameld is het heel waarschijnlijk dat ze zijn vermoord. Panama wil niet dat toeristen denken dat ze onveilig zijn omdat dat hun grootste bron van inkomsten is. Het is daardoor best gebruikelijk om moorden als ongelukken te verbergen.
@hannynillesen6631
@hannynillesen6631 3 жыл бұрын
Vreselijk hoop dat het goed afloopt denk het niet vreselijk om zo te moeten leven zie het net pas wel laat maar kan niet alles zien en Utrecht geboren en Amersfoort ook ik wordt er stil van sorry weet geen antwoord wel laat ik kijk zo verder.hoop blijf je houden sterkte en hoop dat jullie rust krijgen denk nooit hou ze in gedachten
@peterpan4594
@peterpan4594 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasmijn1 idd jasmijn!...dat klopt als een bus wat je zegt..is een heel corrupt land.
@yohanyordano
@yohanyordano Жыл бұрын
Justicia para Kriis y Lisanne..!! hay que reabrir el caso y agarrar a los culpables de esta tragedia!! Desde Venezuela Mis condolencias a los padres y al pueblo de Holanda!! Los buenos somos más!! Justicia!!😔
@lisamurphy5316
@lisamurphy5316 4 жыл бұрын
English subtitles would be great. I would love to hear the point of view of the parents re what happened to their daughters given they knew them better than anyone.
@lalisaoutsold9917
@lalisaoutsold9917 4 жыл бұрын
Rad Luca they asked about how the girls know eachother And the parents said they work together And it is soooo sad the mother says when she comes back and sees how many poeple are waiting for her It is soooo sad she isn’t coming back
@nillyk5671
@nillyk5671 Жыл бұрын
This was before their remains were found.
@infinitylarg7587
@infinitylarg7587 4 жыл бұрын
Panama seems to me a very dangerous place for tourists now...
@lauragharakeshishyan
@lauragharakeshishyan 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is dangerous,
@setzunajeansummers2322
@setzunajeansummers2322 3 жыл бұрын
The whole world is dangerous. In the West, we just have other kinds of problems. We live actually in hell. Which is sad. The world is so beautiful.But there are so many monsters out there.
@evathespeaker9537
@evathespeaker9537 3 жыл бұрын
@@setzunajeansummers2322 true
@astekelenburg2852
@astekelenburg2852 2 жыл бұрын
True... unfortunately
@gunnarlarsson3070
@gunnarlarsson3070 Жыл бұрын
this case gives me the creeps. I feel something terrible happened to these girls, and it was not an accident.
@Lucky-nt7mg
@Lucky-nt7mg 8 жыл бұрын
Could someone please translate this video in english? Thank you...
@licely4
@licely4 6 жыл бұрын
They say that the work of the panama police was not good.
@marvblackwood3327
@marvblackwood3327 4 жыл бұрын
This theory m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6rXg3enndF1oZY
@sonerkamer2678
@sonerkamer2678 2 жыл бұрын
@Minkukel White en dat geloof je met een land nog met veel corruptie? Politie is zeker heel corrupt daar, er is veel uit de zaak gebleken dat er ook misinformatie is gegeven en dat de meiden ook mogelijk zijn aangevallen tijdens dat ze verdwaald waren.
@arthursoesman
@arthursoesman 4 жыл бұрын
I have been following this case intensively for a long time and I find it ridiculous that the tour guide (f) has not been thoroughly investigated! After my opinion, he is really the prime suspect in this case!
@leoneckhardt1715
@leoneckhardt1715 4 жыл бұрын
Can you pls explain me why im really curious in this case but i dont know a lot yet
@lauragharakeshishyan
@lauragharakeshishyan 3 жыл бұрын
I have first seen these case today on russian, so the guy whi made 2 parts video about girls case, he tells with a lot of details, so his and mine opinion is also the guide.
@robbar42
@robbar42 3 жыл бұрын
and not the only suspects, definitely he went along with others
@rnn_172
@rnn_172 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauragharakeshishyan I think a tribe took them, pulled their hairs off, gave them the typical clothes of the tribe and all physique characteristics. And maybe eventually used as prostitutes or real moms of the tribe. Also there is a possibility of canabalism.
@acb5245
@acb5245 3 жыл бұрын
Tour guide Feliciano Gonzalez killed them and the police deleted the missing photo, (probably of the tour guide), as it would be damaging to turism.
@rashiednurmohamed6452
@rashiednurmohamed6452 3 жыл бұрын
Er was een vrouw die een review had geschreven over deze f. Hun gids. Ze vond hem eng en was te veel aan het flirten en kon zijn handen niet van haar afhouden. Ondanks dat zij vaak heeft gezegd dat hij van haar af moet blijven. Hierbij maakte f grappen. " Als ik je niet mag aanraken , hak ik je benen er af " Achter elke grap zit een kern van waarheid zeggen ze. Alles kan. Maar ik moet zeggen. Dit kan bijna geen ongeluk meer zijn. Klopt gewoon niet.
@Jasmijn1
@Jasmijn1 3 жыл бұрын
Ik ben er 100% van overtuigd dat hij hun heeft vermoord. Hij heeft zogenaamd met heel veel ‘geluk’ bijna elk stukje bewijs gevonden.
@2-meter
@2-meter 3 жыл бұрын
Die gast of één van zijn zoons heeft het gedaan, no way around it. Snap niet dat de OvJ en de families het officiële verhaal accepteren.
@truebluewonderful1139
@truebluewonderful1139 3 жыл бұрын
Ik heb dat ook gelezen. Schrok me lam.
@celinespam1174
@celinespam1174 2 жыл бұрын
Kijk de aflevering van (vgm Lisanne) van Break Free, de serie op NPO. Krijg je toch weer een ander beeld
@StefSchaap-r7e
@StefSchaap-r7e 3 ай бұрын
Ik vind het jammer dat deze Feluciano zo door t slijk wordt gehaald.Natuurl8jk kan ik me vergissen..Als er bewijs is ok.Maar dat is er niet.Ook blijft hij een alibi te hebben gehad.Hij was in een ziekenhuis
@peterpan4594
@peterpan4594 3 жыл бұрын
Ik denk ook dat dat ze vermoord zijn. Het blijft vreemd dat ze wel het alarmnummer hebben gebeld, maar geen familie, ook geen berichten. Ook de foto's die een week later zijn gemaakt daar klopt iets niet aan. ..er klopt een hele hoop niet in dit verhaal.
@Zeebats
@Zeebats 3 жыл бұрын
misschien leven ze nog gewoon en worden ze misbruikt. of zijn ze gehandeld. alles gaat in de doofpot
@astekelenburg2852
@astekelenburg2852 2 жыл бұрын
Afschuwelijk. Ik begrijp niet dat er meer wordt gedaan aan mensenhandel
@biancad.5894
@biancad.5894 2 жыл бұрын
En degene die hen het laatst gesproken heeft is overleden???
@zaakibeats4517
@zaakibeats4517 Жыл бұрын
@@biancad.5894 Hele zooi aan mensen die hun recent nog gezien hebben zijn op vage manieren doodgegaan, hit en run, verdronken in ondiep plasje, stinkt allemaal als de pest
@mayagarza3887
@mayagarza3887 3 жыл бұрын
No entendí nada de lo que se platico...pero me uno a los Miles que lloran con ellos ,por la perdida tan triste ,de sus hijas, desde México, decirles que hay un dolor grande y hambre de justicia para esas niñas,que venían a ayudar a los niños latinos...y decirles que no todos somos malvados, yo las hubiera detenido o acompañado , para que hubiera sido solo un hermoso paseo ,y no la innombrable tragedia...lloramos con ustedes ,padres de Kris y Lisanne.
@rnn_172
@rnn_172 3 жыл бұрын
@KARTAL PENCESI use deepl
@elenayajairamontenegro1048
@elenayajairamontenegro1048 Жыл бұрын
A esta fecha, digo llorando. Eso no fue que se perdieron. Las asesinaron. Reabran el caso por favor. Soy de Venezuela
@elenayajairamontenegro1048
@elenayajairamontenegro1048 Жыл бұрын
Hola. Le pido al que subió este video, la traducción de los padres de las chicas. Por favor, yo me voy a suscribir. Aunque soy nueva en el caso, me atrapa la nostalgia. Quiero saber más de las chicas. Por favor. Venezuela
@leonprentice8371
@leonprentice8371 3 жыл бұрын
Yes plz can someone translate it to English or even subtitles
@jibril6559
@jibril6559 3 жыл бұрын
I am from Indonesia, I am deeply saddened. May the almighty provide a proper place for both of them. Amen
@rekath16
@rekath16 8 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if someone translated the whole show in english with subtitles.
@askyper1
@askyper1 8 жыл бұрын
Ach komm das kann man doch locker easy verstehen xd
@ignatnenashev4302
@ignatnenashev4302 4 жыл бұрын
@Scarlet ничего там нет
@krm7450
@krm7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@askyper1 Ja joh. Kun je dit ook begrijpen zonder google Translate...Alleen omdat we buurlanden zijn, wil niet zeggen dat Engelstaligen het makkelijk begrijpen. Doe vooral lekker stoer. Er zijn meer Limburgers die Duits Verstaan dan, dan Duitsers Nederlands. Als du kannst "cool" spielen aber bitte...wirklich lächerlich. So you can try and fool people that are not from NL or DU. But you can't fool me. I have U.S., NL and DU family. Tschüss!
@saywhatyouwant888
@saywhatyouwant888 2 жыл бұрын
@@askyper1 yes for sure I know Spanish but right now don't understand it hence translate English
@jtx5199
@jtx5199 Жыл бұрын
И на русский!
@sandraisabelenriquezmera2057
@sandraisabelenriquezmera2057 3 жыл бұрын
Dios mío que tragedia más grande y cruel, pobres los padres de Las chicas yo moriría si algo así les pasara a alguno de mis hijos. Mis condolencias para ellos.😭😭
@rubenpronk2
@rubenpronk2 3 жыл бұрын
wat ver-schrik-kel-lijk moet dit zijn geweest voor die 2 meiden en nog steeds, na 7 jaar, voor hun ouders. Herinner me het nog als de dag van gister en heb nog steeds tranen in mijn ogen als ik de vermissing met alles eromheen weer teruglees. Wat een verschrikkelijke tijd moet dat voor die 2 meiden zijn geweest in de jungle, helemaal alleen en in honger, dorst en angst💔. Alle liefde en sterkte naar de nabestaanden❤🥀
@jessica-ov6js
@jessica-ov6js 3 жыл бұрын
het is echt te wreed om te verwoorden. Wat een angst moeten zij gevoeld hebben. Is dat al 7 jaar geleden nu? Aub vertel me dat ze toch iets meer zijn te weten gekomen? Is er een verdachte geweest? Of zit het nog steeds muurvast en zeggen ze dan maar dat het een ongeluk was? Want dat geloof ik echt niet. Dat is toch overduidelijk dat er een dader(s) was ipv een val van de brug
@a.e2385
@a.e2385 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessica-ov6js alles wijst op moord.
@e.lammarche4787
@e.lammarche4787 4 жыл бұрын
La hipótesis de la fiscalía fue inverosímil: accidente, cayeron al rio, se ahogaron y después el rio esparció los restos. El abogado de la familia Enrique Arrocha caminó desde el mirador de El Pianista, sitio que aparece en la cámara de las chicas, hasta la cordillera, con dirección al río Culubre, y aseguro que en el tiempo entre la llamada de auxilio y la foto que las jóvenes tomaron en la cima del sendero ‘jamás pudieron haber llegado al río, porque la distancia en tiempo seco es casi de 12 horas a pie.
@duebraccia
@duebraccia Жыл бұрын
Excelentes consideraciones. Entonces es posible que esta fuera una tortura al estilo de Noriega.
@dardonio
@dardonio 2 жыл бұрын
el guia turistico feliciano sabe mas de lo que dice, hasta debe estar involucrado en el homicidio de lyssanne y kriss...no fue accidente, no estaban perdidas, estaban huyendo de alguien , por eso no regresaron de regreso ... el caso esta lleno de incongruencias
@nillyk5671
@nillyk5671 Жыл бұрын
Regresaron de regreso? Basta con decir "regresaron" o "fueron de regreso"...
@dardonio
@dardonio Жыл бұрын
@@nillyk5671 tienes razon jjajjajajajjajjaa....
@robhappe906
@robhappe906 6 жыл бұрын
How in the world can this language institute so bluntly send these two girls away, who have traveled from The Netherlands all the way to Panama to start a job on which apparently was agreement.
@callyacaos5339
@callyacaos5339 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am from Duitsland. And I have to hold on to this with you. Given that the Principal was german, I can't imagine how careless the school acted with Kris and Lisanne. Totally unprofessional and careless. I would have liked to see that dutsch and german police interview the principal and all european personal of the school who engaged with Lisanne and Kris.
@rosaarrastua5045
@rosaarrastua5045 3 жыл бұрын
Para mi ahi arranca el problema de las pobres jovenes .Desde ese momento debieran salier de ese lugar
@mariannemarkus
@mariannemarkus 3 жыл бұрын
ze hadden net zo goed een tussenjaar in de Albert Heijn kunnen doen. Dit is wel heel erg joh, en hoe ze op den duur op foto's zijn gezien. Gruwelijk. zo erg voor de ouders...
@ririschannelx
@ririschannelx 7 жыл бұрын
Can someone translate what's being said in this interview briefly in English please? I don't understand :(
@FabiJenneke
@FabiJenneke 6 жыл бұрын
kirch This video was made while the parents were still searching for the girls (one month after disappearance). They are talking about how the girls met, their personalities, what they were doing in Panama and how they disappeared and how they are trying to find them. Sadly enough, in this video, their parents are still hoping they are alive. For example, Lisannes parents are saying that Lisanne said she didnt have much friends. Her mom says: well we got so many cards and messages from loved ones, when Lisanne comes back, she will know she is loved and she has friends.
@setzunajeansummers2322
@setzunajeansummers2322 3 жыл бұрын
@@FabiJenneke Thank you for the translation. This is so sad.
@almeidakofalex6354
@almeidakofalex6354 3 жыл бұрын
FELICIANO....
@mr.b.3633
@mr.b.3633 3 жыл бұрын
and his son of the ND5 Gang
@lauraMacKinnon321
@lauraMacKinnon321 3 жыл бұрын
Wat lijkt me dit verschrikkelijk. Je kind die vermist is. Volgens mij is dat nog erger dan dat je kind overlijd. Dit moet echt een ware hel zijn. Ik denk dat je iedere dag in angst leeft, zelfs als het zo lang is geleden. Dat raak je nooit meer kwijt!
@thai1992
@thai1992 3 жыл бұрын
Verschrikkelijk dit. Hoe meer ik me er in verdiep, hoe sterker ik het gevoel krijg dat het geen ongeluk is of verdwaald, maar persoon of personen zijn tegengekomen die je niet wil tegenkomen. Heel sad dit
@elizabethzijlstra3392
@elizabethzijlstra3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@thai1992 dat denk ik ook ze zijn vermoord hoe dan ook.
@Jasmijn1
@Jasmijn1 3 жыл бұрын
@@thai1992 Feliciano…
@WilhelmTell_CH
@WilhelmTell_CH 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't helicopters with special cell phone equipment fly into the area? They could have contacted the two women immediately. This would have been the easiest way to find them.
@rnn_172
@rnn_172 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Panama doesn't have the materials for that. Although I share the opinion of using that equipment and maybe of Mexico.
@jorb8572
@jorb8572 3 жыл бұрын
They switched their phone on and off.
@Boca-do-rio
@Boca-do-rio 3 жыл бұрын
On that part Feliciano is compleetly right, its alway's talk,talk,talk and paperwork on moments where you should just act.
@rosaarrastua5045
@rosaarrastua5045 3 жыл бұрын
Las compañias telefonicas NO AYUDAN A NADIE PARA UBICAR PERSONAS Y PUEDEN HACERLO Y NO LES INTERESA
@noasarissa6128
@noasarissa6128 2 жыл бұрын
ik vind het zo erg voor ze ❤️🥺
@margelissamudio2836
@margelissamudio2836 2 жыл бұрын
El guia sabe que pasó. Investiguen por su cuenta. Tres testigos muertos es muy misterioso. Ellas murieron en otro lado. Y luego dejaron los huesos en ese lugar.
@Paki0416
@Paki0416 6 жыл бұрын
Snap eigenlijk nog steeds niet waarom die meiden precies naar een plek gaan die bekend staat om zijn gruwelijksheden, Darien gap..... niemand overleefd dat bijna.... zijn weinig mensen terug gekomen in ieder geval
@angelaschooltv
@angelaschooltv 6 жыл бұрын
Paki0416 wat zou er precies kunnen gebeureb daar dan?
@anastacia.a2985
@anastacia.a2985 6 жыл бұрын
A A. Het is een jungle alles lijkt op elkaar je raakt snel verdwaald en ze hebben ook niet het normale veilige pad aangehouden ze zijn tijdens donker en regen val een pad opgegaan waar je heel snel op verdwaald
@paulf6855
@paulf6855 5 жыл бұрын
ze wilden eerst naar Costa Rica maar Kris de avontuurlijkste van de twee kwam toen met Panama aanzetten zij de extraverte, Lisanne het meer volgzame type tsja en zo gebeurde
@sakiringulu
@sakiringulu 3 жыл бұрын
Dat hun rugzak ergens anders lag dan hunzelf is een groot vraagteken ,ofwel door dieren ofwel door anderen gaan lopen , en zijn ergens afgevallen...
@afcacbs8544
@afcacbs8544 2 жыл бұрын
Gingen niet naar darien
@yitzhakcohen1
@yitzhakcohen1 Жыл бұрын
Je ziet het verdriet in de ogen van de vader van Lisanne, hij is er echt kapot van. Logisch natuurlijk en erg triest
@mathiasbodewell3552
@mathiasbodewell3552 4 жыл бұрын
Mijn condoleances aan Frau en Herr Kremers
@krm7450
@krm7450 3 жыл бұрын
Google translate much?
@biancad.5894
@biancad.5894 2 жыл бұрын
And Family Froon?
@KevinArcade87
@KevinArcade87 7 ай бұрын
They aren't German 😂
@paa_p
@paa_p 3 жыл бұрын
Dus als dat vrijwilligers werk doorging, dan waren ze nooit op pad gegaan?...
@jessica-ov6js
@jessica-ov6js 3 жыл бұрын
Waarschijnlijk was dit dan nooit gebeurd, dat geloof ik echt. Ze waren helaas op het verkeerde moment op de verkeerde plaats waar ze iemand of meerdere mensen hebben ontmoet
@Boca-do-rio
@Boca-do-rio 3 жыл бұрын
Precies... En Nederland moet er eens naar kijken want ook op WWOOF farms wordt gewoon misbruik gemaakt van jongeren.
@mrrobert6896
@mrrobert6896 3 жыл бұрын
Tja, als je zo gaat praten.... wat als....
@GlassOfWater87
@GlassOfWater87 3 жыл бұрын
Ze waren een week te vroeg en planden toen die tocht in, maar je kan niet zeggen dat ze dat niet alsnog in het weekend ofzo gedaan hadden als ze doordeweeks wel gewoon zouden werken.
@Boca-do-rio
@Boca-do-rio 3 жыл бұрын
@@GlassOfWater87 Zij waren niet te vroeg... Dit soort meiden plannen zaken bijna altijd goed. Er is een veel grotere kans dat dit soort instellingen dubbel boeken om zeker te zijn dat er mensen komen, waar ze afhankelijk van zijn. Ook bij WWOOF weet ik uit ervaring dat mensen soms gewoon weggestuurd worden ondanks dat ze een afspraak hadden lopen. Er zijn bij deze 2 dames helaas gewoon een aantal zaken fataal samengekomen.
@Sandoz-tq7qj
@Sandoz-tq7qj 8 ай бұрын
Tell me who was most likely to be there ( the Pianista Trail ) on April 1, 2014 ? I believe we all know the answer 👉 Feliciano If someone else did something sinister inside his territory , he hunted them already. This time he himself did it . He had a computer in his farm residence. He also had lime for agriculture and bleaching. He had all kinds of relationships with gangs including his son's gang. He had a free job. He knew how to use digital camera and enjoyed using it frequently ( see videos ) He could move fast along the trail. He lived there. 👉He wanted money and white women. He staged and planted everything. He was related to almost everything . Why didn't he call his customers (Kris and Lisanne) before he went to their house ? 👉He knew the girls were dead so he did not call 👈 He did it for sure 🔪🩸🩸🩸
@anamariaquintanilla7400
@anamariaquintanilla7400 4 ай бұрын
Justicia para las niñas, y que paguen los culpables.
@brimmingapplerowentree6232
@brimmingapplerowentree6232 5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't appear to be a difficult walk,at least to the top,people ordinarily turn round and walk back,why on earth did they go further, I don't know,but it was dry,at that time and not deep in mud,like it would otherwise have been had it been raining.
@maxmaxs9608
@maxmaxs9608 2 жыл бұрын
Could this be translated into english?
@wilburwood8261
@wilburwood8261 4 жыл бұрын
So what are these parents saying, do they think that the girls were murdered? Do they blame the Panamanian authorities for closing the case as accidents? I don't understand Dutch.
@chielfromme1883
@chielfromme1883 4 жыл бұрын
This was before the case was closed. They werent found yet at this point. They also say they were satisfied with the Panamanian authorities because they were doing everything they could. They were hoping the girls were still alive.
@mr.b.3633
@mr.b.3633 3 жыл бұрын
@@chielfromme1883 they are fucking hyprocrites the gov knows the truth from the beginning and played games with the parents...
@ikenjij6093
@ikenjij6093 4 жыл бұрын
Pff heftig!! Als ik het nog zie kan ik me niet indemken hoe rot dat moet zijn
@erickrosales4160
@erickrosales4160 2 жыл бұрын
And the guide (murder) who did this still work in that place the parents shuld to know the trust.... Plinio Montenegro most to be investigated... 😠
@jibril6559
@jibril6559 3 жыл бұрын
I'll give you a comparison if you don't eat for seven days and don't drink what will happen?
@robhappe2705
@robhappe2705 2 жыл бұрын
Dit is geen vakantieland.
@KorniliaWena
@KorniliaWena 28 күн бұрын
Neterlands❤
@megarichie007
@megarichie007 7 ай бұрын
Can't understand I'm irish lol poor parents poor everyone who knew these loving people definitely set up and murdered by someone they met previously transport definitely used taken away then eventually dumped in the foreast well parts not buying the phone calls or rice paddy field these poor girls were murdered and the craziness after it 😢
@dianeandries1331
@dianeandries1331 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the guy who had a coffee tasting place not far from the pianista trail, walking around with a machete and loving nord european women... ,(Check his website comment from a woman traveling alone)
@starikimore8567
@starikimore8567 4 жыл бұрын
How can you let so young girls travel to a third world country alone???????
@grappjas
@grappjas 4 жыл бұрын
Both of them are adults, making their own decisions. To say ‘how can you let..’ to the parents of girls who never returned.. how disrespectful.
@evathespeaker9537
@evathespeaker9537 3 жыл бұрын
@@grappjas just because the girls never returned, doesn't make his point any less true. In fact, it only goes to STRENGTHEN itt.
@marcianoforst6311
@marcianoforst6311 3 жыл бұрын
Europe is boring asf, most beautiful places are 3rd world.
@afcacbs8544
@afcacbs8544 2 жыл бұрын
@@evathespeaker9537 Panama = safe
@setzunajeansummers2322
@setzunajeansummers2322 3 жыл бұрын
English please
@karelklumpers
@karelklumpers 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a good idea for 2 young ladies to go party in a far country where life is more real and less safe.
@theavandenberg6876
@theavandenberg6876 3 жыл бұрын
Inmiddels wordt ervan uitgegaan dat het een ongeluk was. Toch is er nog veel onduidelijk. Wat is er gebeurd dat ze al na een paar uur probeerden het noodnummer te bereiken? Hoe hebben ze het toch nog zolang volgehouden. Ik vermoed dat de familie nog dagelijks met die vragen worstelt. Blijft vreselijk dat twee jonge slimme meiden zo aan hun eind zijn gekomen
@nimra68
@nimra68 3 жыл бұрын
excuse me i have a question:Is the dutch police just identifying in this case?Do you know something about this?
@Jasmijn1
@Jasmijn1 3 жыл бұрын
Velen hebben de theorie dat de tour gids, Feliciano, hen heeft vermoord. Hij heeft zogenaamd met heel veel ‘geluk’ bijna elk stukje bewijs gevonden. Wist als een van de enige waar ze waren en kende de jungle als geen ander.
@GlassOfWater87
@GlassOfWater87 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jasmijn1 die menselijke resten werden ook 'opeens' gevonden nadat er een geld beloning werd beloofd. En z'n zoon zit in een gang/cartel schijnt. Tja...
@Jasmijn1
@Jasmijn1 3 жыл бұрын
@@GlassOfWater87 Engste is dat je nog steeds dezelfde route met hem als gids kan boeken.
@NelsMala
@NelsMala 4 күн бұрын
De beide meiden is iets ergs overkomen, maar ze waren niet meteen dood. Jammer dat ze alleen wat foto's hebben genomen en niet gewoon een filmpje met uitleg wat er was gebeurd. Dan was alles meteen duidelijk geweest.
@senensalazar3021
@senensalazar3021 2 жыл бұрын
En español por favor
@raus_mit_Islam
@raus_mit_Islam 3 жыл бұрын
They would have sent an SMS if they could.
@mr.b.3633
@mr.b.3633 3 жыл бұрын
of course or video message etc.
@raus_mit_Islam
@raus_mit_Islam 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianehoelzer2228 SMS has a much higher chance of success than the others you mention
@raus_mit_Islam
@raus_mit_Islam 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.b.3633 video message has a much lower chancecof getting through 🤣
@mr.b.3633
@mr.b.3633 3 жыл бұрын
@@raus_mit_Islam now i meant just camera recording and saving into the phone.
@maxmaxs9608
@maxmaxs9608 2 жыл бұрын
But why didnt they record a video message with Lisannes camera?
@66NobodyPerfect66
@66NobodyPerfect66 6 жыл бұрын
Triest zeg . Blijf lkr thuis als je leven lief is!
@NiekKuijpers
@NiekKuijpers 2 жыл бұрын
Dat is wel heel makkelijk gezegt
@AmazingVideos-qf5ed
@AmazingVideos-qf5ed 2 жыл бұрын
@@NiekKuijpers Je kan altijd voorzichtig zijn, doet niet zeer
@hendragunawan8813
@hendragunawan8813 2 жыл бұрын
Semoga kedua orang tua dari masing2 ..korban di beri ketabahan dan kesehatan
@liberalstudiesmaterials899
@liberalstudiesmaterials899 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask is it true please? - They left the path and got lost, tried to call for help then turned the phones off to try to conserve battery, occasionally turning them on when they thought they might have service. When they heard people searching for them they tried to signal with their camera flashes but failed (always carry a whistle, /out/) then as their strength was failing one of them fell off a cliff and was injured seriously which prompted the other to desperately try to call for help again before abandoning her. Then the one who fell died then the one who didn't fall died. They decomposed quickly in the hot, wet jungle and their remains were scattered by scavenging wildlife until they got small enough to be washed downstream.
@Sandoz-tq7qj
@Sandoz-tq7qj Жыл бұрын
Yes, possible, good thinking 👍
@hugoruiz2136
@hugoruiz2136 Жыл бұрын
Hay que seguir adelante en busca, de la verdad, principal sospechoso henry eliezer González, no puede quedar en la impunidad este holocausto caníbal
@nillyk5671
@nillyk5671 Жыл бұрын
Es el hijo de guía turístico, cierto? Algún día la verdad tendrá que decirse. Algún día alguien hablará. Tengo esa esperanza.
@infinitylarg7587
@infinitylarg7587 4 жыл бұрын
What about Napalm for panama???
@svl1156
@svl1156 8 жыл бұрын
Zijn ze nu terug?
@Subastion
@Subastion 8 жыл бұрын
+Sophie Van liempt Ehm, nee.. ze zijn in Panama overleden.
@svl1156
@svl1156 8 жыл бұрын
+Subastion ooooh dat is niet zo fijn....
@АлексейКошкин-е8я
@АлексейКошкин-е8я 2 жыл бұрын
Они ещё и могут смеяться..??..
@jibril6559
@jibril6559 3 жыл бұрын
Saya kasih perbandingan.kalau sudah tujuh hari tidak makan tidak minum apa yang akan terjadi?
@sashulyaalexandrov5095
@sashulyaalexandrov5095 4 жыл бұрын
жаль ни одного слова не понял
@AmazingVideos-qf5ed
@AmazingVideos-qf5ed 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be sorry!
@forestdweller5581
@forestdweller5581 3 жыл бұрын
Het voelde gelijk al niet? Wat voelde gelijk al niet?
@sugunasuppiah3254
@sugunasuppiah3254 2 жыл бұрын
I followed this tragic event on many channels. I think that it could not have happened without the collusion of the school they were going to volunteer with. The family they were staying with, also were The delay in starting the internment meant that there will be no complications, when the disappearance comes to look light. plan was already underway
@sugunasuppiah3254
@sugunasuppiah3254 2 жыл бұрын
So just yesterday I watched Sloan Bella's channel on these two girls and she explains what happened. I think we have little chance now to know the truth, so the insight of Sloan Bella really helps me.
@nillyk5671
@nillyk5671 Жыл бұрын
The school yes. The host family are innocent imo.
@margohoogwoud6686
@margohoogwoud6686 3 жыл бұрын
Hoe oud waren de meisjes.
@Оразном-б8н
@Оразном-б8н 2 жыл бұрын
20 - 21.
@ignatnenashev4302
@ignatnenashev4302 2 жыл бұрын
Субтитры включите?
@LM-qg7vy
@LM-qg7vy 3 жыл бұрын
💔💔😭😭
@elizabethzijlstra3392
@elizabethzijlstra3392 3 жыл бұрын
Maar ze komen niet meer terug ze zijn hoe dan ook dood... of een misdrijf of een ongeluk dit overleef je niet zolang zonder eten en drinken en die kou
@naomi8755
@naomi8755 3 жыл бұрын
Nee inderdaad, gaat beetje lastig denk ik 7 jaar zonder eten en drinken en andere levensbehoeften.
@elizabethzijlstra3392
@elizabethzijlstra3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@naomi8755 klopt ja
@PatrizioGuarino-v8l
@PatrizioGuarino-v8l 3 ай бұрын
Die zwein girls hatten eltern als bruder?!.
@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries
@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries Ай бұрын
The boy is the brother of Lisanne
@PatrizioGuarino-v8l
@PatrizioGuarino-v8l Ай бұрын
​@@Nathalie.ZachtezeebriesWarum die eltern haben die tochter frei gegeben in ein andere welt so weit ohne bruder begleiten?.....
@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries
@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries Ай бұрын
@@PatrizioGuarino-v8l I don't understand Deutsch
@PatrizioGuarino-v8l
@PatrizioGuarino-v8l Ай бұрын
@@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries In Holland people not speaker deutsche 2 language?.
@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries
@Nathalie.Zachtezeebries Ай бұрын
@@PatrizioGuarino-v8l I am from Belgium, Flanders. I only speak Flemisch and English.
@lidiarapp7232
@lidiarapp7232 Жыл бұрын
У меня из-за этого случая появилось отвращение к испанскому языку🤮
@sonialucia1101
@sonialucia1101 2 жыл бұрын
Thet are cannibals They live in hidden and come out to atfack at night caves
@hettieheutinck7480
@hettieheutinck7480 3 жыл бұрын
Hb7
@rendyharyani7099
@rendyharyani7099 3 жыл бұрын
Peace be upon you, and Allah mercy and blessings My opinion is murder by psychopath (local residents) the culprit of 2 people characteristics I don't mention, the incident of his murder around the river, first they were held and refused to be raped and they were killed using stones and mutilated) strong reasons because the bag they brought was clean and Without any stains and the 34 fingerprints to outwit the police as if they would want to direct the tribe. You will know what psychopath work is like. next In one April after taking a taxi (this taxi driver also saw these two perpetrators when they arrived at the destination) they accidentally met the psychopath (two local residents) they chatted and only two hours they were already familiar and as if they were already long Then they went on the road initially the victim was not to go mercy. (Can be seen from the bag they carry without adequate equipment. And on April 1 they have been killed by the psychopath and this I don't want to say because it's very sadistic. after they died they were mutilated and the pieces were distributed in various places some were eaten by wild boar and psychopathic alibi to eliminate traces made an oddity as if it would be on the second day and then the cris was still lives lost and tried to call the police (On the first day the victim's cellphone was held by the perpetrator and who called the police many times it was the culprit) and a separate photo section It was photographed by my sipe and who committed murder 1 person even killed more than 5 people and 1 more knowing about this murder was originally this one did not know because this was his friend inevitably he was involved. His spirit was in the cave and the victim there was calm and peaceful. This is just my opinion. Peace be upon you, and Allah mercy and blessings
@maxmaxs9608
@maxmaxs9608 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.............so do you know who these psychopaths are? Feliciano Gonzales, Edwin Aguirre, Vega Moises, Henry Elizar Gonzales, Plineo Monetenegro? Who are they? Are you saying it were members from an indigenous Tribe? A witness came forward and claimed they were kidnapped, raped and finally organ harvested. The witness fleed to Costa Rica.
@tamara783
@tamara783 Жыл бұрын
Heel erg maar wel naïef twee jonge meiden en dan zonder gids zo n wandeling maken
@lidiarapp7232
@lidiarapp7232 Жыл бұрын
Гид сам убийца
@massimorossi635
@massimorossi635 5 жыл бұрын
Una vez me perdí en una selva en Venezuela Estoy vivo de milagro.. Es muy fácil perderse...en latinoamérica tienes que ir con gente que sabe, eso esta lleno de animales peligrosos y asesinos.. Estas chicas buscaban la felicidad,..quien sabe si estaban presionadas por los padres...Europa en un lugar muy tétrico con mucha gente infeliz...
@AylissanL
@AylissanL 3 жыл бұрын
La felicidad de ayudar a pobres latinos alumnos. Eran felices mujeres.
@biancad.5894
@biancad.5894 2 жыл бұрын
What a stupid answer. Europe is not "one country". The people in Europe are unhappy? 🙄 OMG
@seanburke7487
@seanburke7487 3 жыл бұрын
Froon's father is utterly distraught as would be expected from an empathic person. In stark contrast both of Kremers parents have a cold demeanour and exibit narcissism. Kremers killed Froon of that there is no doubt.
@setzunajeansummers2322
@setzunajeansummers2322 3 жыл бұрын
@AY C People thought this because she died first because of an accident. And Kris eats her to stay alive.
@suzsiz
@suzsiz 3 жыл бұрын
I see you comment on all these videos. You are projecting. Please see a therapist.
@benazizalassaad6909
@benazizalassaad6909 3 жыл бұрын
Damn u r really crazy
@mr.b.3633
@mr.b.3633 3 жыл бұрын
ahhh you again buddy, with your super thesis :D
@evathespeaker9537
@evathespeaker9537 3 жыл бұрын
@@setzunajeansummers2322 LMFAO, that's a tad bit far out mate XDXDXDXD
@Preety4
@Preety4 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, these 2 families are not talking to each other anymore and I always wondered why: seeing this I notice some sort of conceited behaviour looking at Kris her family (mother). Example: they decided to go to Panama soon after, Lisanne her family did not (various reasons I guess). Such a pity….
@OneMagicalMoment
@OneMagicalMoment 9 жыл бұрын
Jesus wat een hel lijkt me dit zeg. Nooit weten wat er met je kind is gebeurt :(
@eefz1
@eefz1 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Scumbag wat is er mis met jou het is hun kind ?!?!!
@massimorossi635
@massimorossi635 5 жыл бұрын
OneMagicalMoment donde están las fotos? Porque no publican las fotos.. En una de ellas, se observa una persona que tiene una linterna .
@MrJoseMaria15
@MrJoseMaria15 5 жыл бұрын
@@massimorossi635 no te va entender es Gringa XD
@marvblackwood3327
@marvblackwood3327 4 жыл бұрын
This theory m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6rXg3enndF1oZY
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