OUIGO : Brand new high speed train in Spain ! Barcelona to Madrid at 300km/h

Hi folks,
Welcome to this trip report onboard the brand new Ouigo service between Barcelona and Madrid.
Specially recorded by Tom and Seb during the first day of revenue service!
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RECORDED IN MAY 2021
Railroad company: OUIGO ES
Train type : TGV EuroDuplex N°807
From : Barcelona Sants to Madrid Puerta de Atocha
Time : 2h52
Price : 29 € - 35 $
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[@SimplyRailway]

I forgot something in the video. SNCF with Ouigo ES and its business model (Mix between TGV Inoui and Ouigo) is now in competition with the classic AVE and at the same time the AVLO. "Kill two birds with one stone!" In my opinion that's a great move from SNCF.

[@maxbarr3954]

Bravo tu a un bonne anglais

[@maxbarr3954]

Mais on t'entend parler en français

[@maxbarr3954]

Tu pouras faire le premier train de railcoop ca m'intéressait

[@maxbarr3954]

Ah au faite bientot les 100k gg

[@allws9683]

The journey time in the description can't be right (1h35 for 600km !) it probably should be something like 2h45 or 3hour something...

[@michalislamprinos38]

300 km/h wow...High speed train is a dream here in Greece that probably never happen. Thanks for sharing. A great enjoyable video.

[@colanitower]

Greece could do well with a Railjet-type service. At 230 km/h it's perfect for Greece and it can be done at lower cost by upgrading existing lines just as Austria did.

[@truedarklander]

You already have 250s in the form of ETR 470s

[@AntoinneBarnes]

10 years ago I had to pleasure of spending my birthday in Spain while on a concert tour with the University of Miami. Your video was posted on my birthday this year and it reminds me of how gorgeous a country Spain is; the people, the countryside, the architecture all just stunning!! Thank you!!

[@worldtraveller2711]

I took it last Wednesday and we reached Madrid in just 2h27minuts and come back at night to BCN in just 2h21 minuts. Excellence service and in advance on schedule both ways

[@Neville60001]

These double-decker TGV's are amazing-I wish that we had these in Canada right now going between Toronto and Montreal on the Windsor-Quebec City corridor (or between Toronto and Vancouver.)

[@madplann7558]

"J'adore ce job" 0:54 et 1:00 haha on voit la passion du caméraman

[@pocki892]

Wow incredible they have just rendered even bus services between the two cities completely uncompetitive! Hope to see more such services all over the EU!

[@Neville60001]

As I just said today (8/25/2021), I wish that we had this between Toronto and Montreal here in Canada.

[@cristinamartin5118]

I thinkit's a great movement. In Spain Ave is seems as expensive and classy, but Oigo movement is about getting people who wants travel can afford it, but feels not welcomed at AVE. And now you can go for a weekend in a very and cheap way. I'm really expected about tranitalia (which Italy's train are amazing and affordable)

[@sapede]

External companies operating for profit the Spanish most popular lines will disrupt their country railways in a way that the Spanish people could be out of pocket by the billions. Their system was designed so the profitable lines would subsidise the rest (Renfe), but now that option won't be available and I bet most of the country newly built HS lines won't be profitable. Yet they were built by Adif issuing public debt. I wish to be wrong on this, but I might not be.

[@flopunkt3665]

@@sapede the train prices were so high that people continued flying between Madrid and Barcelona just because of the price. If they manage to significantly increase the number of train passengers on the line, they may make even more money than they did before with the expensive prices

[@CityWhisperer]

@@sapede (Un)fortunately, that’s not the case. And there’s a clear example to point it out. In 2013, Italy opened its high speed railways to competition, with a new company called NTV (Italo) entering service. 2 years before, in 2011, Trenitalia (the national operator) transported 25 million passengers across HS lines. In 2015 that figure had risen to 55 million, for a combined 64 million (9mill from NTV). So not only did passenger numbers more than double in just a few years, but the national operator doubled its passengers as well. Outcome? HS lines were popularised and average ticket prices dropped 40%.

[@sapede]

@@CityWhisperer That's really good. Unfortunately only applies to lines where there's population at destination, which might not necesarily be case with many of the Spanish lines. If only 900 people (of old age) live at the destination as it is for instance in Tardienta, you may double passengers to 3 everyday from the current average of 1.5 passengers/day (Should the low cost operator be willing to take a train there). You may attempt to estimate the real cost of that journey without any subsidies.

[@CityWhisperer]

@@sapede Yes, when high speed lines where opened, part of the project was to give "access" to high speed railways to underpopulated or rural areas. Not only to serve the town after which they are named, but the entire province. On another note, and unfortunately for your argument, long distance services don't recieve subsidies in Spain. AVE, Alvia, Trenhotel (now discontinued apparently) and similar services which serve long distance routes don't recieve public money, meaning that they either need to be profitable or their cost needs to be covered somehow. And in many cases, it's the money Renfe earns with AVE services (the only profitable one) that can be used to do that.

[@edisonz2006]

You should also do a trip report on Avlo, to see how it stacks up against Ouigo! A comparison video would've been nice!

[@CityWhisperer]

I think he will when avlo starts running next month.

[@samtrak1204]

@@CityWhisperer LOL. Thanks for sharing.

[@CityWhisperer]

@Asier Lizarraga Passenger services won't begin till the 23rd of the present month.

[@Oriol123456]

I took the first commercial train service between Barcelona (6:45) and Madrid (9:15) on May 10th 2021 :)

[@TarikDaniel]

Great video and interesting competition with a positive influence on price. But I don't think that complete liberalisation of train service should be the target. When looking back at last year, one can highly appreciate the state owned companies still being in service where all private companies on high speed rail reduced their schedule. In Germany, Flix train was even fully out of service due to "lack of demand". Therefore those operators should be seen complementary instead of seeing them as the future of train service.

[@CityWhisperer]

They are complementary. Renfe will run even more services than it did before, and other operators will complement the service with their own services.

[@MattMcIrvin]

In a place where we have no high-speed trains worthy of the designation at all, the idea that there would actually be active *competition* in high-speed passenger rail service somewhere is pretty amazing...

[@osasunaitor]

What place is that if I may ask?

[@truedarklander]

@@osasunaitor 'murica for sure

[@DanielsUKT]

Great video on the new ouigo Spain service it is good to have competition and also the cheapness of the price means more people can afford it. It is also good you managed to arrange for your freinds to film it for you at the time

[@mauroizquierdo9544]

Congrats for the great video Simply Railway! But I've to say a few things, just to make it clear enough. I've to say that it is quite shameful for SNCF that they're taking any type of pride of operating in Spain with no problems at all because of ADIF's clear and fair process of homologating and testing train precedure. Meanwhile they're puttling too many complicated rules and steps so that no other operators can run their trains in France. That's not fair. Neither Renfe or Trenitalia are baing able to pperate their trains on the LGV's because SNCF Réseau's questionable "policies". No one is capable to undersatand hoy a Frecciarrossa 1000 or an AVE S-100 is not allowed to operate on the LGV Est (specially the AVE S-100) when Alstom in this case has built and designed this train in a very simillar way as other TGV's that are actually able to run with any problems. Alstom has been working with Renfe for many years to make this train run anywhere in France and they can't figure out how to make the S-100 work on that particulate LGV, and this is well known by train enthusiasts that there must be something going on with SNCF's "corrupt" decisions, not with the rolling stock itself. If SNCF wants to take pride of how good their business is, and how good Ouigo and other products are, thery have to be fair and clear and allow other operators in the HST market in France so they can show that they're better or whatever they want. It's about all having the same chances and opportunities. Cheers!

[@xMarko7]

That's right. It will be interesting to see how ouigo and avlo coexist to see if we are indeed impacted by the lack of competition here in France.

[@guillaumedu971]

Renfe is even not able to launch a railway company on their own market. And now is trying to go on French rails with 30 years old trains and is surprised to be declined, that’s funny. It is not corruption, just a fair policy.

[@mauroizquierdo9544]

@@guillaumedu971 Well those trains have been allowed to run in certain parts of the French network for almost 10 years now. But somehow not in the LGV Est. Also, for the record SNCF has some trains that are older than the S-100 and they can run without any issues whatsoever. Also...how is it possible that the ETR-1000 and other models that are "not 30 years old like u say"(Bombardier Zefiro) had to wait almost 10 years to be able to run in France? And these two are just an example. We'll see what happens with the Talgo Avril. There is just one word to define SNCF Reseau's policies: "corrupt". The spanish minister of transportation has asked the french government to investigate this and the European commission to open un an investigation, but I'm not sure if it's going to help. Just yo be clear one more time: it doesn't matter how old the train is as long as it meets all the technical, safety and security requierments. I'd recommend you to get informed about this situation instead of saying things that make no sense in any way.

[@guillaumedu971]

@@mauroizquierdo9544 Trenitalia is authorized to operate in France: www.autorite-transports.fr/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/notification-thello-trafic-international-avec-desserte-interieure.pdf Probably with the covid and the last year accident in Italy they preferred to take more time. Not to mention that such as in France, they are not operating in Spain currently. I understand that safety and security requirements are not an easy deal for non-French companies but on the other hand, with open-access model, the French market is easier and less risky than other markets. SNCF is the only company that is taking the risk to operate on a new market during the pandemic, with modern Euroduplex trains and a totally new business model. SNCF invested €600m in Spain, how much have been invested in France by other companies? - Also I invite you to visit SNCF Réseau website: www.sncf-reseau.com/en And read the DRR: www.sncf-reseau.com/sites/default/files/2021-01/Document%20principal%20-%20DRR%202022%20V1_EN.pdf

[@mauroizquierdo9544]

@@guillaumedu971 I perfectly know that Trenitalia can now operate in France, and my critique said that it took them too long to get the certificate for no reason, and that's the pure and honest truth. Also, I've been reading and getting informed about SNCF Reseau's policies, and I cannot find a reason why Alstom that has built hundreds of TGV's for SNCF can't figure out how one of their variants (AVE S-100) can't run on a particular railway. It's all bullshit and you have got to admit that, even if you support SNCF as an operator. And last but not least, if you say that SNCF is risking so much money in new marketd with a "new business model" that isn't really new because it's a copied model from the airline industry, you also have got to allow other operators to run their trains do they can invest money on other countries as well! Renfe wants to operate in France and offer a new business model and SNCF Reseau is not allowing them. It's a shame.

[@dagger732]

Such a beautiful and silent video with comments! You just earned yourself a subscriber!

[@peterdowden7694]

We need lots more high speed low fare trains to replace the high CO2 emitting Ryanair and easyJet

[@hugo414]

You'd be disappointed to learn that EasyJet offsets all its European flights... they pollute less than your train. Moreover, the fuel consumption of today's airplanes is very low, often less than a car, when compared to the fuel consumption per passenger.

[@je6a478]

@@hugo414 How are they going to pollute less than electric trains powered by nuclear energy (in France)?? In Germany, CO2 emission is less than 1g per person per kilometer for trains due to Deutsche Bahn's electricity coming 100% from renewable sources while CO2 emission for planes inside countries are 214g per person per kilometer. Therefore, it simply isn't true to say that planes pollute less than trains. de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/322971/umfrage/hoehe-der-schadstoffemissionen-durch-fernverkehr/

[@cosminprescura1957]

@@hugo414 The train will be the most eco-friendly choice ever.

[@francescoboselli6033]

@@hugo414 No that's not true. If the train is dissel powered ok, but in the case of electric train, they even pollute less than cars

[@abshivkumar2549]

@@francescoboselli6033 I think I am happy with my ryanair cramped seat

[@thereallotharmatthae]

Imagine doing this in France - a foreign operator competing against SNCF! Unthinkable, of course - French companies going abroad, easy - foreign company going into France, impossible!

[@Hastdupech8509]

Yeah, looks like that European rules about rail competition don't stand for certain countries

[@fullyautomaticall]

It’s great it’s gonna make the spanish national stuff cheaper 😈 compete or die its better for the public regardless

[@aidanclarke6106]

It is perfectly possible. Competition is allowed in France but no competitor has yet started servicing French railways.

[@albe6253]

The competition has begun; in first week Ouigo carried more average pepole with 5 services in each direction, when Renfe has more than double services in each direction. It's a change or it's curiosity for new things? We'll see. Capacity; a french Duplex in normal configuration (First or XL and second classes) can carry about 27-29% more pepole than a S-103 Velaro, the mainforce on Barcelona - Madrid HSL. In Renfe, only the new Avril's by Talgo will carry more pepole on a trainset than Velaros. Before Ouigo, train has catched a bit more than a half passengers in Barcelona - Madrid travel. Plane travel between the cities is still demanded, for connections and for some business (convention center is much closer to the airport than Puerta de Atocha station) The toll for using the infraestructure is calculated in a basis of the route, stations served and services offered. There is discussion for changing the toll schema, and one of the proposals take into account the capacity of the trains. Sorry if it has been bit long.

[@avanb8818]

Your videos are fantastic about these trains In South Africa we have a VERY VERY bad railway system as they steel the rail tracks and the copper cables for the signal system. The say it could take ten years to get the system working properly again

[@adam_bnm]

there are French trains in Spain, I didn't even know!

[@DavidVargasCarrillo]

And there are Spanish trains in Saudi Arabia. Or French trains in Sweden. The world is full of these examples :)

[@doge.a.cat2002]

That is some lightning fast speed💪🤩🇪🇸

[@genguludug7285]

I always enjoy watching ur trip report, good job

[@samihanna7719]

I’m moving to Barcelona soon and its good to know the train to Madrid is so cheap and fast!

[@doodlemouse.6825]

Ahh yesss finally.....I was waiting for your upload only !!!!😇

[@EpicThe112]

If you look at the front it should say of AVE S-112 it's Renfe Spanish National railways and the Ouigo is SNCF. Basically Elipsos service.

[@juxbertrand]

Parfaite vidéo les gars. Simply Railways est une magnifique chaine KZbin. Feux maintenant sur les trains de nuit en Europe. Et si seulement ils pouvaient réactiver les trains-auto de nuit comme celui qui faisait Alessandria-Hambourg ces dernières années. A croire que les compagnies de train Européennes font le contraire de ce que nous attendons d'elles.....

[@juxbertrand]

Ps - il est grand temps de rallonger cette ligne à partir de Marseille pour les week end à Barcelonne, Sarragoze voire Madrid. Vite !!

[@georgesbv1]

9 euro is only the logo price, available just for early bookers. Real fees are much more steep or require frequent commute to achieve

[@tjittekamminga5170]

again a nice and interesting video!! muchas gracias!

[@mariosanchezperez8965]

Almost 100k you got it😀😀

[@georgedelr3y488]

wow i love spain

[@mh.aha19]

will try this.. i think more capacity with double deck.. love this

[@conceyullena]

Beautiful video, greetings 🚂👍🙋‍♂️

[@tomasvilla2977]

those are great news for spain

[@JoseTwitterFan]

These new Ouigo and Avlo services are gonna be VERY busy when Barca-Real 'El Clasico' season comes around.

[@fishguy3101]

3:16 that’s a nice touch

[@user-uw3fi2zg4t]

if you travel in spain hsr is a must

[@DesiVeer010]

Railway El Classico.

[@benjaminfranco3739]

Hello Simply, can you make a trip report about the Shinkansen?

[@redademe]

Japan ain't open up to foreigners anytime soon.

[@MattMcIrvin]

We'd had dreams of our next international trip being to Japan in 2021, and when COVID hit we figured that would probably be 2022, but it might have to be later than that!

[@SarahRenz59]

Nice video, but good lord, that pink is hideous. I don't know if Italy has opened up its rail system to competition, but the Italians will never allow that color scheme within their borders. 😉🍕

[@CityWhisperer]

It has, since 2013. Italo is a private operator.

[@biancaseverino2764]

Hi. What are the sits that look at the same direction that the train goes?

[@narzaust]

This is the train only the French can make for the world beginning with beautiful Spain....................comments from India (Phew!!!!!!!!! corona corona here. Deadly, Deadly.....Please pray for my country folks.

[@TrainLoverHimu]

Thumbs up 👍👍👍

[@toufPC]

J'adorerais avoir ce job aussi 😌😌

[@lazertrain7754]

Juste pour l’info les ouigo es ne sont pas des daysie mais des euroduplex 3uH (800)

[@Lukas-ie4xy]

Such a kind of competition destroys railway business! Different operators on the same line make the timetable and the pricing complicate for customers and they make an appropriat use of infrastucture impossible. Customers exept their tickets and their travelcards to be valid on every train, so they have maximal flexibility. Indeed low prices are needed, but competition is not the way to go. Countries like Belgium or Switzerland, without competition and with one single ticketing system for all public transport operaors, have the highest railway ridership because of its simplicity and reliability. Meanwhile, people in UK startet avoiding trains as soon as they startet competition.

[@CityWhisperer]

Competition is the best way to make railways popular. It’s happened in Italy and will now happen in Spain. Different operators on the same line create competitive prices and schedules.

[@mrschrodingerdog]

Belgium and Switzerland are smaller than some Spanish regions... BTW, in Belgium we do not have one single ticketing system. If you want to catch a train and then ride the metro / tram in BXL you will need two tickets.

[@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi]

Lindo trem bala simply boa viagem ai ino para espalhar de trem bala

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

meanwhile, UK has like 103 Pounds for train tickets for Scotland to London at times

[@Drago1995]

9:00 your friend look good 😅

[@draveed]

Is anyone else surprised by the cameraman? At Zaragoza, did he just lean over a table of random people to stick his camera at the window?

[@visionist7]

Very close to 100k

[@arnoldosan]

Double Deck Ouigo trains makes Renfe AVE seems obsolete. I like AVE/Renfe but certanly Alsthom devices will provoke considerable changes in competition on the near future.

[@sidrasafder1710]

love from pakistan

[@goldfing5995]

I was/have been living in Germany and Switzerland and must say that it's a shame how retarded and obsolete most trains and tracks are in these countries, compared to the huge progress that has been made regarding high speed tracks and trains in both France and Spain during the last decades. The French and Spanish have built several thousands of kilometers of high speed tracks, not only a few dozen or hundred. And the landscape profile and distance of cities is no adequate excuse for the lack of this in Germany and Switzerland. German DB (with ICE trains but little high speed track) and Switzerland (only two Alp tunnels, Lötschberg and Gotthard) should really think over their overall strategy. Just an example: it takes a full 3 hours to get from Zurich to Stuttgart (about 220 kilometers). The video here shows that it takes less time (2 hours 30 minutes to 2 hours 52 minutes) for the 630 kilometers distance between Barcelona and Madrid. Similar for Paris - Marseille (750 kilometers) in about 3 hours. The discrepancy in travelling is huge.

[@moisesaraujo4760]

Que tal un día lo verémos en el salvador necesita tener un transporte urbano masivo económico saludos cordiales

[@everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122]

6:43 departure on time

[@willgibson9718]

Hey simply railway can you make a video of the Crescent to new Orleans from New York penn station?

[@FortuneZer0]

Rare to see a (soon to be) international high speed rail service.

[@CityWhisperer]

International? Ouigo will not be offering services to other countries.

[@FortuneZer0]

@@CityWhisperer It will when Catalunya is independent.

[@CityWhisperer]

@@FortuneZer0 If Catalonia becomes independent, they will most likely suspend the service. Liberalisation is in Spain, so if Catalonia is no longer in Spain, they won't be able to run. Not to mention that border control would make it logistically much more complex.

[@joaorodrigues2905]

you dont see an increase in seating capacity because there is nothing to increase.... its the same number of seating...t he difference is that on the french version the seat arrangement is different....

[@johndasey8427]

Please post an mbta video

[@benben9788]

The train looks like the slow Treno aeropuerto in Italy, its funny that it’s a night speed train in Spain

[@TF-km2ls]

Slow? 🤦‍♂️

[@benben9788]

If you dont live in Italy you wont understand.

[@TF-km2ls]

@@benben9788 But you mean the Spanish train is slow?

[@benben9788]

@@TF-km2ls no so that train in Spain looks almost exactly like the one in Italy but the one in Italy is a Region train and not a high speed train which makes it “slow” so its very funny to me that its being used as a high speed train in Spain

[@TF-km2ls]

@@benben9788 oh okay sorry for the misunderstanding, have a nice day :)

[@ramon475]

I wish they would also include an international Ouigo line from France to Spain

[@joaorodrigues2905]

i think they should increase the speed of the madrid barcelona line to 360 km h......like the japanese did..... 300kmh is an old speed.... 400km h should be the speed of the future!!!

[@TheRaul45]

I don't think anyone needs to save 30 minutes to go faster. Who is in such a hurry? If you are in a hurry, get out of bed sooner.

[@olivieronrails]

The difference in power consumption between 300 and 360kmh is huge, maintenance costs will also be higher if vmax is higher. All this to save a few minutes on a 2h route, not worth it from an economical perspective, either in France, Germany or Spain. In Japan, 280/300kmh is still the norm on scheduled Shinkansen service. In China they reach 350kmh but they have a special case with very long distances (4hrs+ at 350) and an even tougher domestic airline competition. And then there are Maglev trains but it's an all different story altogether. I think we will be stuck with 300/320 maybe 330 for the next decade at least, in Europe, which serve its purpose just fine.

[@joaorodrigues2905]

@@TheRaul45 30 minutes can make a great difference if you are on a very important business trip.....thats the main reason why billionaires have theyr own private jet planes .....so you are wrong sorry mate

[@joaorodrigues2905]

@@olivieronrails but i think it would be very cool to have a comercial train service at 400 km/h

[@guillaumedarbin2433]

Awesome train...

[@loreng257]

Seeing this video, I think japan bullet train is still the best in the world.

[@rdrogel]

Extend one Inoui Paris-Barcelona service to Madrid

[@TheAgedGamer]

Been here since July 2019!

[@muhammaduwaismuhsinmuaz4385]

❤💙💙

[@tengsted]

Completely disagree with the liberalisation of rail markets. It's turning the railways in to airlines. All it is doing is fragmenting the market, and will lead to a poorer service on the lines that don't make money. What happens when your local train misses the connection with the Lo-cost carrier? New ticket time. €€€ Foreign trains in a different country isn't new. Trains ran successfully across European borders for decades. Orient Express? A cheap turn-up-and-go service for all, with co-ordinated connections. That's a much more passenger friendly operation.

[@charbelrenfe2052]

a my city

[@partickdistel6580]

Imagine a Spanish franchise on the French networks. French will be like SACRE BLEU

[@everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122]

12:26 toilets time

[@jorge9312]

Mal muy mal, España abre sus vías a trenes franceses e italianos pero ellos no dejan a España circular sus trenes. Aquí somos idiotas y damos facilidades a los de fuera pero sus paises la burocracia no deja hacer lo mismo.

[@emelio7995]

I think Spain has the best train terminals and stations in the entire Europe? Wrong me if I am right. And Norway has the worst?

[@Balrog2005]

I hope so, the cost in money (many from aids from the EU) was astonishing for the AVE and his costly terminals. Not to mention the stations in the middle of nowhere made in the 2000s era because for political reasons (votes) everybody in Spain wanted a high speed conection. Now on the long run we will see how it will cost to RENFE to operate all those lines and to try to operate the intercity and regional ones. I'm not optimistic...

[@AH-bm4ts]

Seats too small for many Americans🦛

[@everythingbyjanetdullaghan5122]

😆

[@dalerider3124]

The seats look narrow. Everyone on the aisle is sticking OUT into the AISLE.

[@CityWhisperer]

Well those are the normal seats from the non low-cost service they were used for before, the only thing that changed was their colour.

[@olivieronrails]

@Bob el Silencioso Not narrower than the upcoming Talgo Avril 2-3 sardine can configuration

[@mariosphere]

What else do you expect in a low cost train? It's to travel cheap, but with a little bit less of comfort.

[@Noski6ix]

Pourquoi en France on a encore droit à leurs gros trains bleus en blanc c’est plus classe en vrai

[@gerarddorle7141]

Amusant : les commentaires précédents sont en anglais... Qui paye la pub ?

[@JavierDerteano]

In the video looks like the voice in the speakers was only in Catalan. Weird to see that from a French company 🤔

[@bernardbouzon5499]

a 11:37 vous étiez dans la voiture 8

[@alfrredd]

Hopefully, we can see AVEs and Talgos running in France and Italy as smoothly as they do in Spain. Frecciarossa will enter Spain in 2022, Ave will enter France also in 2022 (if sncf follows european law)....

[@chenchospotter8879]

Wrong, ave does services in france since long time ago, and international talgos are fully retired

[@alfrredd]

@@chenchospotter8879 They are trying to operate internal french routes (like Paris-Lyon) The regulators are giving them a hard time.

[@rdrogel]

Why not in joint operation like Alleo(DB & SNCF), Thalys(SNCF, SNCB, DB, NS)?

[@rdrogel]

Ellipsos is a joint venture between SNCF & RENFE

[@hededcdn]

So smooth.

[@CityWhisperer]

The decision not to have a "high capacity" train is more to do with the product itself not being really "low-cost". In France, Ouigo has inOui services backing it up, so the more 'luxurious' product is with inOui while Ouigo goes with the lower class. And in order not to steal passengers from inOui, they make Ouigo non-attractive on purpose. But as there's no inOui backing them up in Spain, they've had to upgrade their product, but apparently the prices are the same. So that's good!

[@nanderv]

Prices will probably go up a bit over time. First make people like your product, then increase the prices by a bit (just by making the 9€ price less likely to be available).

[@CityWhisperer]

@@nanderv They’ve stated that prices won’t change - that it’s not an offer -, and that they will remain the same as now. Whether this is true or not..time will tell.

[@1crafter176]

Tbf, I also think it's to do with the base costs of it as well. I think OuiGo didn't want to risk failing in Spain AND spend a large amount doing so, so the upfront cost of refurbing all the trains into the "Higher Capacity" style would've likely been too much for them. Although, nowadays, it seems that OuiGo ES is doing amazingly

[@Andrewjg_89]

180mph (300km/h). Yep that is fast. Such incredible trains in Spain.

[@rcfan3429]

Well those trains come from France

[@aymanla471]

@@rcfan3429 spain also make trains talgo and caf and run at the same speed and higher ...

[@rcfan3429]

@@aymanla471 yes true but we have the fastest in France with 320 kmh commercial speed and 575 speed record

[@xiram1362]

@@rcfan3429 spain was 350Km/h but not now

[@CityWhisperer]

@@rcfan3429 Spain actually holds the record to the highest speed ever achieved by a full high speed train.

[@RailwaysExplained]

We've been waiting for this. Thank you for another excellent video and review! 😎

[@FrancoAir]

So ready to travel back to Spain, hopefully this summer.

[@trippinoutdoors]

Not going to lie - I LOVE the livery/branding of Ouigo! It's so simple yet gorgeous looking, and the perfect color combo to boot! I just wish we could get something like this here in the US!

[@timnewman1172]

Totally agree! I am sooo jealous, the only thing happening here besides Amtrak is Brightline... the U.S. needs to join the 21st century!!!

[@trippinoutdoors]

@@timnewman1172 There is endless political reasons behind why we have next to nothing regards to transit in the US sadly. That list is extensive and long since deeply engrained into the history, culture and mindsets of people here too, keeping us enchained to our sheer lack of it. The big fossil fuel and vehicle industry is the most prominent controlling interests that got us where we are and are constantly trying to shut down things like Brightline. It's sad. And, all the more reason that government avoids infrastructure renewal, changes, funding and investments, in the more general political aspects of it all. So, there's a endless fight ahead to get ourselves into the 21st century transit wise.

[@redademe]

Not going to happen unfortunately, the US auto industry killed public transportation ages ago.

[@timnewman1172]

@@redademe Global climate change is going to demand a re-think of many aspects of personal as well as public transportation, may as well prepare for the future now...

[@SarahRenz59]

There are too many grade crossings in the US, and too many car/train collisions at those crossings. Plus the freight lines own nearly all of the rail lines passenger trains currently use. In my area (suburban Chicago), they've been converting grade crossings to underpasses, not so much to facilitate passenger trains as freight travel. But those infrastructure improvements will hopefully jump-start the conversation about high-speed rail.

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

The low price is the result of good competition. More competition does create better options for customers.

[@benjamintery7847]

Glad to see a new video again! Congrats Tom and Seb, good work for a first video👍 Looking forward to see how "AVLO" will manage to compete with this!

[@redangisland8547]

i love Spain one of my fabret country in europe,, ,,now im stuck at my city Kuala Lumpur cannot fly anymore so sad during covic 19,,next time when i been in spain i want try this speed train just take almost 3 hour travel from Barcelona to Madrid??,,,620km???,,wowww,,,

[@joelaut12]

Nice to see you reporting again! This is a great new service and would have loved to use it 2 years ago when in Madrid if it had been available! Thanks!

[@DIASDEMUSICA]

The Oui Bar will be openned as soon as the pandemic is better... Congratulations for being in such an important event like this !!! the best train reviews channel by far! Please do a review of its competitors Avlo and Ilsa-Trenitalia next year!! :-D

[@trainsoftheworld1]

The spain Network is just amazing. Great video!

[@rudiechinchilla6746]

Catalonia is a trap-go and visit the place but living and working there demands that the language be learned and spoken-the Spanish laws re very permissible on this matter,Spanish speaking s not that accepted fully there..I love Madrid better

[@rudiechinchilla6746]

Trains in Europe gor the go of cheap prices it s so good!!

[@Ludakrys972]

Oh MR a 100K abonnés mais ne le fête pas ^^ pas bien sa !! Félicitations à toi !!! Un tgv Océane en plus. Pas mal comme OUIGO.

[@doge.a.cat2002]

So you could basically commute between these two cities on a daily basis. Amazing.

[@TheDaorti]

Awesome 600 km for 9€ is such a deal! Here in Germany you get a high speed ticket for €18 on a very lucky day

[@philipbranco9568]

Merci, and thanks for that Thibault (and Tom & Seb). That is really grand there! It is clear that SNCF is on a winner here. 👍🏻 In fact, many on Ouigo Espana's Facebook page said when are heading to the other destinations and doing the Paris-Barcelona service! 🚅😁 Whatever next? Italy, Germany?

[@perhapsme988]

Not sure about train services within any nation run by foreign train company. Long term, this would kill off local train services and very few lines would be kept open. Better approach is to keep services within each nation to the national operator of each nation. But allow foreign competitions for cross-border services. This would add many more services across borders and would be much more convenient for customers who would not need to change trains after crossing border each time. Only if Australia has proper long distance services let alone high speed type. Typical English-speaking-nation's mentality in regard to rail services . Lol

[@rdrogel]

Extend TGV's in Spain from Paris to Seville in addition to Madrid. Use both TGV/AVE trainsets

[@CityWhisperer]

And how is competition supposed to “kill off local trains services” and make “very few lines be kept open”?

[@trevorgwelch7412]

Toronto to New York could use one of these . Too much Government red tape . In Europe passengers wait for Trains --- In Canada Trains wait for late passengers .

[@adiba9734]

The tokaido shinkansen still strugle to achive 300km/h😔

[@etbadaboum]

Japanese landscape is more challenging IMO. Japanese trains are excellent!

[@MattMcIrvin]

You'll have that maglev blasting through the mountains soon enough.

[@adiba9734]

@@MattMcIrvin nahh the construction is not even started yet.the shizouka goverment did not agree with the project because of water suply in the mountain

[@JavierDerteano]

And I guess it costs a but more than 9€ :(

[@adiba9734]

@@JavierDerteano even bus from tokyo to kyoto are more expensive than this tgv which is further away. It cost 12€ for bus and 98€ for shinkansen:'(