Our First Bikes: Where Did It Begin? | GCN Tech Show Ep. 75

This week we cast our minds back to our very first bikes. Surprisingly they're quite modern by current cycling standards, with integrated stems, 1 X groupsets and wide tyres. We've also got some spy shots of some new bikes and some great new shoes from Fizik 🔥
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[@gcntech]

What was your first bike? How much do you remember..? 🚲

[@DaanHoogland]

:) I remember it had a triple top tube, an oversized middle and two tiny slightly more bend along the side. I used to ride the "vesting Naarden" of road and it got more beating then any bike deserves but still got passed on in full working condition to a lot of my younger kin. No idea what the brand was or where it ended out, but i imagine it just faded away...

[@Jayc2080]

A old red 90s bmx style huffy that was a hand me down from my moms friend. First roadie was my 79 Schwinn world that I got from my uncle last September and I love that bike...

[@Cellblock1138]

It was a Franken-bike that my dad(a shop teacher) cobbled together from 3 or 4 bikes that folks in our neighborhood had thought broken beyond repair and thrown out. It wasn't the prettiest thing, but solid steel and could stand up to many, many wrecks.

[@heyhei2799]

A trinx r600🤣🤣

[@brunocyclist]

The only thing I can remember about my first bike - apart from it being a single speed - is setting it up side down on its saddle and handlebar (sorry Jon, I didn't know better at the time), spinning the cranks by hand to make the rear wheel go as fast as possible and then accidentally sticking my right index finger between chain and front chainring, making an entire revolution of the cranks before getting unstuck. I must have been 5 or 6 years old. Still have the scar to prove it.

[@marcelr.9035]

what we really need is a tour of cannings' shed and bike collection

[@paulgraham5076]

GCN should do a video of John Cannings bike museum/shed/garage

[@TheWaxChainFanClub]

If there's one thing I've learned since watching the GCN Tech Show, it's that if you send Cannings' mum a message, she will send you photos.

[@Dennis4523]

My first bike is my only bike . Just started cycling a year ago , and about to get my next one with some nice carbon !

[@davidharrington6273]

My current bike is my first real road bike, I'm 13 and its a 2015ish Trek 1.1 with an Aluminium Frame and carbon fork. I upgraded it with a pair of Mavic CXP 22s, that I got for free (dont ask how), and Look Keo Classic Pedals. Its got a basic Shimano Claris groupset and I ride it every day, and recently I did my first race too!

[@BartSchrijvers]

25 years ago, the Giant 980c was my first serious road bike and I still got it. I'm too emotionally attached to sell it. Not sure what John meant with the bottom bracket, but the frame itself looks exactly like mine, so no worries. Cheers!

[@retroonhisbikes]

Paper round money earned me a nice new Raleigh record 12 speed road bike. Black and gold. Frame mounted shifters no indexing.

[@01FozzyS]

My name is Jon Cannings, Trendsetter. lol We need the whole GCN crew show their first bikes!

[@lenahygiena]

More importantly, pictures of smol baby Si, Dan and James!

[@garyclewlow1]

What ever Jon is on, can you bottle it and sell it in the GCN shop? 😃

[@jackseph03]

When are we getting a full, detailed tour of Jon's bike attic? Seriously.

[@matthewlewis2072]

Not gonna happen, he'd have to reveal to his other half how much bike cr*p he has...🤣

[@ZeroSeriesMMX]

Maybe when his collection is enough to be a museum, by itself.

[@turnersheatingandplumbing]

Thanks guys, I’m happy my trek made the bike vault, even if it was just nice. 😢😂🤣

[@mattparsons6487]

Andy Turner that was the biggest abomination that’s ever happened on this show. A rim brake Trek Madone is lighter and faster🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@kuma_score7536]

@@mattparsons6487 that version of the Madone was rim brake only and it was without a question a SUPER NICE!!! I wish I could afford a bike that looked that nice!..

[@riggsy89]

Based on Jon's heartfelt reaction to that neo-retro bike, I think it's time for a GCN neo-retro build

[@2739330904]

Could we vote for which side of the sWorks is best?

[@trevorhayes5414]

My first road bike was a white 10sp Peugeot Aubisque from 1987 with Rigida rims, Vittoria 21c tyres and the first edition Look PP56 white clip-in pedals. Pride and joy for over 10 years. Loved it.

[@jonburnell532]

Absolutely love Eddie's Dean. Frank-n-bikes like that are truly wonderful. I hope to run into you one day 👍

[@paulobrien4794]

Strong ‘sliding things across the desk’ game this week gents.

[@jochem1986]

Being Dutch, I had my first bike without training wheels at the age of four. Well, that's when the training wheels came off anyway. It was a red Loekie, with a single gear and a backpedal brake. That was a hoot! Us Dutchies start cycling not long after we start walking :)

[@gcntech]

Nice Jochem, that explains a lot hey? 🇳🇱

[@jochem1986]

@@gcntech Sure does! ;)

[@Metal-Possum]

Jon's first bike was/is awesome! I didn't have a bike that good until I bought my own in my early 20's.

[@chiefrocker12]

First Bike was an apollo V, in baby blue. Next door neighbour was cleaning out his shed, he was a velodrome rider......I had no money. Gave me the bike on the condition I would mow the lawns for the next few months. In between used my BMX bike with a milk delv bins to deliver newpapers....rounded up enough money to buy Suntour group and convert that back to a rode bike. And so started the biking journey. 32 years on, and still loving it.

[@thomaslaroche2956]

That Cannondale is actually a real one, I work at a bike shop that sells Cannondale and I’ve seen it!

[@Kyujin666]

That mountain bike conversion to gravel bike is indeed super nice! 💜

[@neiltiffany4740]

The trek madone was robbed! Super nice for sure, those brakes were beautifully incorporated in the design. Robbed!

[@kuma_score7536]

not to mention that it was the older model which was rim brake only.

[@billinhouston3291]

I agree.

[@crypto_que]

"So you can go to town on me and that bike." lmfao John

[@babygerald4645]

Great show, looking back at your first set of wheels! My first ride was a candy-apple red Schwinn 564 that I got for my 17th birthday in 1990. It had a 14-speed Shimano Exage groupset with biopace chainrings. I upgraded the brakes and chairings, then crankset, saddle, and pedals before wrecking it in a crash in 1992. I may be wrong, but I think It was one of the last aluminum Schwinn frames made in their Greenville, Mississippi factory. I remember it fondly.

[@rogerlindley3095]

First bike after a three wheeler was a little red Phillips with white metal mudguards. Next came my first 'proper' bike, I bought a second hand Jack Hateley frame for a fiver and built it up one Saturday which cost another fiver, fixed gear, one brake and toe clips. Rode it for miles with mates and with a cycling club. This was all back in the fifties and early sixties.

[@andrewince8824]

The first bike I personally bought and owned was a Diamondback Blackout. I'm now running a custom built DMR bolt. 1×12 now but had a 3×8 then. 800mm bars now, 720mm then. 35mm stem now, 120mm stem then. The difference is insane.

[@worbed]

Amazing upgrades section. Hats off to both David and Hamish!

[@straight_edge]

Jon and Chris honestly make a great team for the Tech Show 👌 I paused at 22:58 to type this comment and what a frame to pause on!

[@christoingram]

RE: The Dean frankenbike in the bike vault, the pivot comes from flex in the titanium stays and to answer Chris' question about why you'd want suspension in the rear and not the front - it's for climbing traction.

[@adjusted-bunny]

I had my first bike around '71. It sounds so old. The gears were a 1x3 setup. Very modern and minimalistic.

[@lenahygiena]

Sachs 3speed hub and back brake?

[@adjusted-bunny]

@@lenahygiena I don't remember the brand but the rest is correct.

[@obriaind]

I was all-in for the Rossin, and then I saw the Cadex. I’ll still go for the Rossin, but it’s closer than it would be on any other week.

[@pibba]

Love this show! GNC Show has a contender!

[@samuelmundula2216]

During my entire childhood, my bikes were $5 yard sale bike where when a brake pad or something needed replacing, it was literally cheaper to dump the bike and go to another yard sale to pick another one up ;). I got my first proper road bike when I was 23, which was two sizes too large (I actually had a cheap $200 fixie from Amazon first but I'm not counting that as a 'road bike').

[@danmathis4046]

Ok...we want the 'John's Bike' show! On location at the official Canning Bike Museum. Time for...show & tell, John.

[@gcntech]

Haha - you'll have to wait a while for that one...

[@equteachme]

My first bike was a hand me down Majestic, I remember it had white rubber tires, single speed, and coaster brakes. :)

[@albr4]

imagine buying a trek madone project one and not making it into the bikevault

[@mattparsons6487]

Alan Braaa exactly. Clearly he should’ve spent £1k more for a slower, heavier bike with rubbing brakes

[@neil7769]

That was a travesty - disc fascism from GCN as usual.

[@Agent-vj3ns]

Lol, right. He said disc brakes would be more aero than the streamlined rim brakes on a Madone.

[@jmax9782]

Those Fizik's look cool- back to velcro, stretchy this time.

[@TheBassallyear100]

oh damn, valve caps that double as valve core removers is awesome! never thought about it, instantly need it!

[@erlixerlix7573]

Actually pretty common on schrader valves on cars an machines.

[@panzerveps]

@@erlixerlix7573 Really? After 12 years as a mechanic, I've never ever seen one on any car.

[@erlixerlix7573]

@@panzerveps Like this one www.thenefmarket.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=494114

[@earthstick]

My first bike was a Raleigh Rascal, red and yellow step through frame. I must have been about 6. I remember learning how to ride it with no stabilisers. The moment I worked out that to go around a corner you have to push the handlebars slightly in the opposite direction to the way you want to turn then the bike leans in.

[@markjthomson]

Velcro shoe closure... I'm a fan! Interesting to note, if my memory serves me correctly, it was introduced to road riding from triathlon...?

[@patrickroldan1336]

didn't start riding a bicycle till I was 11. Learned on a big box Schwinn folding bike. not a big fan of the bike, but it was british racing green. now my fixie raleigh is the same color, and I can't stop thinking about or riding bikes so I guess my first bike stuck with me anyhow

[@julmeissonnier]

Boas are great but love Velcro too. I still ride my 1986 Carnacs that I got for racing triathlons. I had to re-glue the upper to the sole with epoxy at some point. After 33 years the velcro still works perfectly....

[@gcntech]

That's impressive!

[@gcntech]

Greg LeMond used to have his old Brancale shoes rebuilt. And then, the original Carnac company got involved and produced the Carnac LeMond shoes for him. Great shoes. Jon

[@craigwilson118]

Jon's first road bike was clearly also the inspiration for the EF team colours. Sick fade.

[@JamesWhite1]

Those shoes oooooooooo, Movistar is becoming my favourite team completely based on their killer kit colours.

[@gcntech]

They're pretty saucy eh?

[@BlazingBigJointz]

@@gcntech Nice bit of kit :))

[@charlesmeacham8401]

Hi guys, Great show and thanks for all the help over the years. It's time for a new cassette, and I am wondering if a 105 / 5800 / Long Cage which is now running on a 32 cassette can handle moving up to the new 105 / 34. There is plenty of room on the B screw, but I have had different answers from different shops. What do you think? All my best, Charles

[@markfletcher4605]

This is a bit old, but I just got a pair of RX8 shoes and love them. I want a comfortable, but adjustable shoes for all of my bikes, road, hybrid, and mountain bike. I really like SPD cleats even on road bikes because I can walk into any establishment afterwards without feeling like everyone is watching me for my shoes clicking.

[@gkazanjian5976]

Those Cadex bikes are flexy like a noodle but somehow ride like a dream. I still have one from '92.

[@Chris-qk8uz]

That rear derailleur on that DEAN has a crazy angle in that small cog, Jesus.

[@daedalusaus]

Lo these many years ago my first bike was a Raleigh Tomahawk Silver Jubilee

[@nathleaves9001]

Jon saying “project one” genuinely sounds like he’s saying project womble and the more I play it back the more I’m sure

[@johnandrews1998]

First bike... no pix but my first proper racing bike was a Peugeot PX10 I bought used from a local racer looking to upgrade. Team silver with Huret and Stronglight and Mafac centre pull brakes. Sadly my first road bike was also my first car hit... it crumpled in the back fender of a Lincoln Continental.

[@kennedystuart23]

My first bike was a Miyata 712....I loved that bike....I now have a Focus izalco...keep up the great work guys..👍🇨🇦

[@Agent-vj3ns]

Focus Izalcos are sold at Wal-Mart now. They're total rubbish 👍

[@kennedystuart23]

@@Agent-vj3ns What ever....

[@bertdebruijn7129]

David is not up against Goliath, but he is up against a giant.

[@Boopop1024]

My first bikes with bike shaped objects. My first proper road bike was my Triban 3 I got in 2012 (I'm 29 now). I've been riding it ever since, eventually becoming my winter/touring bike. Recently I realised it's slowly beginning to give up, stripped threads and the like. That led me to getting another Triban 3 a year or two ago. I intend to give it a fancy groupset and nice wheels in maybe a decade or two. Is it just me who's done this? Probably!

[@owenchuarbx]

Very nice!

[@brannmacfinnchad9056]

No idea of my first couple of bikes; something cheap and mountainish from Walmart, I think. First real bike was a Fuji Traverse 1.5 hybrid...I didn't start riding that long ago.

[@Theo-ev6lt]

Whats going on with bike vault this week? The Madone is a nice and that last one... i dont even know what to call it... is super nice? Well...

[@Outsideville]

Yeah, and the Cinelli pedals aren't horizontal and wheels aren't lined up. These would normally prevent bikes from getting Super Nice.

[@turnersheatingandplumbing]

I can’t believe I missed a super nice just for not having disks brakes , it’s not like I could retro fit them

[@kuma_score7536]

@@turnersheatingandplumbing I can't believe they didn't realize that your model of the madone was rim only. I hate rim brakes but it's what I got and I deal with it and even if I prefer the look and feel of disc that madone was a true beauty.

[@billinhouston3291]

@@turnersheatingandplumbing That Madone is beautiful.

[@fishyphish7398]

my dad got me a bmx with a foam wrap with velcro and it looks so cool way back 92' wheelie everyday hahaha

[@jasongirvan6729]

Hi Jon Hamish’s bike there definitely had a repair done and I’m not sure if you missed it Jon as you did say you don’t remember them looking like that! Well if you look closely it looks as if there’s a change in the carbon lay in between the chain stays That bike does not look structurally sound

[@earthman4222]

I rember my first bike in 1958: a 20 inch orange single speed, used. I am still riding in 2019: a 700 x 32 Specialized "city" bike 3x8 with hydrolic disc brakes.

[@prestachuck2867]

You guys gave that Dean softail monstrosity a Super Nice, but that beautiful Trek Madone at the beginning was only a Nice?!! What have you been smoking in the back shop room?

[@bunnyadrian]

Awww damn, the bell now has REVERB!

[@skulengu6854]

I don't remember the brand of my first bike. It was probably from a department store. My best guess would be Sears. It would have been Christmas of 1976 and I do remember that it was black and had a yellow plastic "gas tank." On either side of the fake tank was a sticker with a two tone image of a man's head in a hat very reminiscent of Clint Eastwood in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly with an eyepatch. Underneath it said "Hombre." I know what your thinking... "Badass!" right? Well me and my friends thought so anyway. Keep in mind that it was 1976 and the first Cray supercomputer had just been released with a 64 bit processor, 8.39 megabytes of memory and 303 megabytes of storage, all for a mere $7.9 million! The Concorde had it's first commercial flight so that eventually all of us would ride on supersonic jets. Star Wars was still being filmed, the Apple Computer Company was formed, the Ramones release their self titled debut album (on vinyl!), California wines beat French wines in a competition involving a blind taste test for the first time, the U.S. celebrates it's bicentennial, the first class of women were enrolled at the U.S. Naval Academy, Viking 1 landed on Mars, Bruce Jenner won the Olympic gold medal for the decathlon, the first outbreak of the Ebola virus occurred, the Muppet Show premiered, Patty Hearst was sentenced to 7 years for her involvement in a bank robbery after her kidnapping by right-wing extremist group the SLA, the band U2 formed, IBM releases the first laser printer and I was oblivious to it all when I was on my bike. Thank you Wikipedia for refreshing my memory, but I do actually have vague memories of many of those events. In 1981 I replaced that bike with a Diamond Back Team Pro in dark blue metal flake and blue alloy parts. I still have most of the parts as well as the frame of my Diamond Back but I sold my "Hombre" to a neighbor and it was later stolen from his front yard. I do hope bike thieves get a special torture in Hell.

[@odin2823]

first proper bike was a schwinn predator from 1983

[@barrymonaghan6593]

Banana seat, butterfly wing handlebars for $10 and the breaks didn't work very well.Lost control one day and ended up in a ditch.After that I got a Hercules for $5, weighed a ton.When Christmas came that year, 1973, I got my first 5 in the back and two in the front Apollo 10 speed from Caps Cycles in New Westminster, BC, Canada.Thought it was the greatest bike in the world!

[@jesebsp]

It was about 1969. It was pink and purple with a banana seat. It was great! My sister and I got them for our birthday. She's a year older, same birthday. She's still mad we got the same things at the same time. The first bike a bought was a yellow 10 speed at the hardware store (small town) in 1979. rode it everywhere. we moved to a house in the country about 4 miles from school. in the spring i started riding to school. pretty steep hills. no one every explained the gears to me so it was always in 1st gear up and down the hills. i would beat the principal to school. track coach found out where i lived and what i had to climb to get there and get home he told me to just show up for the meets. told him it wouldn't be fair.

[@JonathanWhoever]

Chris if those are Shimano shoes, I still have a pair of those. From around 96. Damn I feel old now.

[@martintin250]

First bike was a puch mini sprint. The bike was too big so my dad screwed wooden blocks on to the pedals so i could reach them. I broke my arm on that day (my birthday), i can remembering like yesterday, probably 38 years ago...

[@inigoh]

Some serious super nice inflation here. Barely any of these bike would have got a super nice last year....

[@RSvelo]

If I remember correctly, the pivot point for the Dean frame is around the bottom bracket. The whole rear triangle swings upward.

[@davepratt9909]

Did Travolta join the military? The haircut looks familiar.

[@prestachuck2867]

That recently happened to me. I had long hair that took me two years to grow to the overall length that I desired. I was sporting the Laurent Fignon look complete with ponytail and eccentric professor glasses. Last week, I went into Great Clips (big national chain of budget haircut salons) and asked the “stylist” for just a trim to get rid of the split ends and to add a layer or two. It was a rookie stylist who just cut it all down like that (I now suspect that’s all he knows how to do), then he said something about his artistic vision of the perfect style for me. Oh well, it’s becoming an unusually hot summer this year, so perhaps a blessing in disguise.

[@andybrown141]

for the secret shot of the new cannondale , i wonder if there is a new trend with drop seat stays and more aero as we have just seen with the new specialized roubaix?

[@spencerlemon2679]

Trashing on your family all over youtube?? Where's the opportunity for Hobbit to tell his side of the story #justiceforhobbit

[@gcntech]

Instagram. Jon.

[@gethind-j2390]

I always get a dingdong for your vids JonnyTech.

[@rustlerstampede1366]

My first road bike was a puch 190, I still have the bike, it was passed down to me from my dad, who got it in 1985, so it’s a oldie

[@neilbrackstone1819]

Johns probably still got his 1st bike in his collection

[@krlgrudzinski]

"One hell of a concept" 🤣

[@seancollier3313]

1st bike was a Raleigh Chopper

[@leeeeigh796]

I had a raleigh silver jubilee an first road bike I up graded was a raleigh cadet with an 18 12 freewheel and 105 sis levers and rear mech. Would love to see they other presenter first bike. May be even a few proper kid bike grifters bombers bmxs and all!

[@Gravitysnap101]

Damn, that haircut is killer! work it!

[@richfi9576]

photography didn't exist when I got my first bike and the etchings have been lost in the mists of time...

[@janmatter9348]

it is really ironic that the winner of 'screw riding up grades, buy upgrades' gets an 'eddy' bottle (Eddy Merckx: Don’t buy upgrades, ride up grades)

[@AKindChap]

Congrats. You got the joke.

[@lamismavaca]

@johncannings @AlbertoContador wore top of the range Bontrager velcro straps XXX shoes his last Trek Segafredo year. 😉 and few years back Giro techlace w a this year revamped look of variants

[@trbeyond]

I had a $150 pink bike with clip on aero bars and covered in random stickers. Kinda scary to think my current bike is 100x as expensive!

[@Aditya-fv9xv]

Given how influential Jon has been in the cycling industry, it amazes me how humble he can be most of the times

[@FlatSpinMan]

IAmWalrus Go on...

[@matthewvelo]

I wish I had a picture of my three-speed Malvern Star Dragstar to share. Bronze frame with a white dragstar seat.

[@derekhobbs1102]

I've still got the remains of my MS convertible.

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

i'll repeat it again. it's "screw riding UP GRADES (not upgrades), buy upgrades"

[@ltrtg13]

Could Jon explain how adding up can equal taking away? I admit My maths isn't brilliant but now I'm confused. The new Fizik shoes are really confusing. I do know thing about them. The more you spend the less you get.

[@matthewlewis2072]

18:37 54cm rocks :D

[@jondillon3333]

Re wing the bell!!!!!!!

[@shivpersaud6415]

My first bike was a bmx back in 2009 i first got it and loved it so much till eventually feburary of this year some one stole it from me and i never saw it back it had a 3×7 setup and last year i got my first road bike

[@AaronGoodTimes]

Those radial spokes on Hamish's bike make me nervous. Would rather see 32.

[@craigpaterson5085]

Been looking at caad12's and hopefully the relaease of the new caad13 and supersix will lower the price of the older models

[@mattparsons6487]

Craig Paterson haha you can have mine they’re rubbish 😂

[@jonathanzappala]

So you were Popeye at 9 years old, you must have liked your spinach haha.

[@jensenhealey907efi]

Please do some research with shoe and helmet manufacturers and find out when they will have DI2 compatible shoes or helmets. I have heard rumors that this is new thing for the pro peloton.

[@gcntech]

😂

[@maartenmeynen8760]

what is happening with you guys! Did you see the valves on the mash? What happend to your ideals???

[@iberiksoderblom]

First bike ? Dont think bikes where invented back then... 😁 Nobody talked about helmets and stuf, and we kids where left to bike around on the roads, in the forrest or where ever. It was freedom, if you just showed up for homework and food on time. Absolutely great ! My first racebike was at age 11. Silver, Reynolds, Campagnolo, Mavic.

[@furyl1_neverz91]

Awww those pics looks so nice! About to get a SCR, because I'm a short rider,currently riding on a folding bike Not sure what's the difference of 20" and 700c

[@dan_lazaro]

I have the 2016 SCR FF, amazing bike. Pressfit bottom bracket is a pain tho. But the new models upon observation, have internal Cable routing and threaded bottom brackets. Might upgrade the frame if I ever find a white and red one lol.

[@furyl1_neverz91]

Is 2016 the blue one? I like that one Yes the decal on 2020 are so much better, I lIke the SCR2 black and blue logo Just keep it simple god damn it giant

[@dan_lazaro]

Mine is white with Red in the top tube and under the downtube. But I've seen the black and blue one and any giant looks stunning sooo yea.

[@audax333]

I also have a Giant CADEX 980C with a bottom bracket that might need fixing in the future. It makes slight clicking noises. I also had to replace the headset and some worn out parts. Other than that, it is still rocking the Campagnolo Chorus 8 speed. Did anyone here hear of those early carbon bikes just falling apart where they are glued together? I am a bit concerned because a technician in the bike shop told me that he wouldn't ride that bike because of that. It feels pretty solid and I can't see any cracks in the tubes.

[@hamishmcdonald1295]

The bottom bracket on mine hasn’t been repaired 🤷🏼‍♂️ I had the frame checked before I decided to build it. Every picture I’ve seen online they have the same darker material on the lower lug.

[@audax333]

@@hamishmcdonald1295 There are multiple 980Cs which primarily differ in color afaik. My bike's bottom brake looks different. Let's hope our vintage carbon bikes don't break down!