Our new van is not fit for purpose!

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Tourin' & Chillin'

Tourin' & Chillin'

Күн бұрын

We bought a brand new campervan from Retford. Disgraceful service, terrible attitude, zero help, and zero apologies.
Heartbroken at the potential loss of so many thousands!!!!
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**** Update: We have the money back (less out of pocket expenses. A new video will follow as soon as I'm able.
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@spartafishinguk
@spartafishinguk 11 ай бұрын
Thank god I seen this!!! Literally been searching for a T28 and today we seen this company advertising one and we’ve sourced the £44k ready to ring them tomorrow, view Friday and literally arrange to buy and drive it away!!. Thanks for the heads up mate much appreciated 👍
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
You’re welcome… don’t do it, go elsewhere.
@FPVsimon
@FPVsimon 11 ай бұрын
Might be worth mentioning what make, model and reg number is so no one gets lumbered with it once it’s returned
@motorhomelifeandwildcampin3948
@motorhomelifeandwildcampin3948 11 ай бұрын
I returned an Autotrail in 2021, motorhome damp, letting in water and it was new. It was unfit for purpose, the good thing for us is we had finance on the vehicle and because of that Lloyds finance took the case over and we got a full refund. There’s no reason why you should not get a full refund, it’s painful now but it will resolve itself. Legally they don’t have a leg to stand on
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for commenting.... The experience could not have been more awful.. Update to come.
@terrymorris3293
@terrymorris3293 11 ай бұрын
I bought a caravan from Grantham's £35k worth 2 years ago. All was very good until the brakes failed. Being a twin axle large van this was a big issue. They tried to charge me £2k for repairs (6 weeks old van) saying I had been driving with the parking brake on!!! (Obviously I 100% hadn't). I stood my ground and strangely they backed down the next day. But I wouldn't go back there for anything now. And moved my servicing to a different swift dealer. Shocking company!
@pageant1fd
@pageant1fd 11 ай бұрын
Hi there so sorry to hear of your woes. I was treated similarly by the company that sold my new motorhome to me. The first year they did the habitation and warranty testing. According to them perfect. The second year whilst on a tour I had an independent inspection. The damp issues were huge. The supplier treated me as you are being treated. However after a few months of denial I told them my solicitor was dealing with the problems and that the inspector I’d used aas going to be my witness when it goes to court. The main importer suddenly contacted me and collected the motorhome replaced rear , roof and nearside panels; which must of cost thousands. The supplier had their tech manager sacked and even today some 12 yrs later I’m still the proud owner and have enjoyed numerous tours practically trouble free. The stress that’s caused from this obnoxious practice is dreadful so I really hope you have a positive result and many wonderful tours lay ahead. I’ve subscribed so hopefully you’ll up date us soon . Best wishes.
@davidbarber9892
@davidbarber9892 11 ай бұрын
What a nightmare, should be a uplifting experience with getting a new vehicle with so much promise of adventures to come. Hope you get sorted buddy and thanks for the heads up.
@AndyHodder-tm1fc
@AndyHodder-tm1fc 11 ай бұрын
Sorry you've had such a nightmare, we must thank you though for doing such an informative video exposing such poor service etc. All the very best for the future and we have subscribed to support you in the quest for justice. Best regards, Andy.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Hello Andy, what a decent, thoughtful reply. Thank you for subscribing, there’ll be part 2 to follow :-)
@pinza0079
@pinza0079 10 ай бұрын
Hope you get sorted I myself have recently bought a motor home from Granthams and we’re very happy with it as we haven’t had any issues 🤞we snagged a few items when we went to view and those were sorted by the time we collected it and I have to say they gave us a fantastic part ex price for our caravan which was even more than I could achieve selling it privately (which I tried on eBay and facebook) our only grumble would be that the cleaning job carried out wasn’t great so we went through it before our first trip that aside so far so good
@BaslowKiss
@BaslowKiss 11 ай бұрын
Bloody hell, really gutted for you. Sounds like you’ve covered yourselves with independent inspections and detailed evidence. At the very least you’d expect full refund plus compensation for time, expense and energy wasted. Really hope it all works out for you.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for taking the time to comment, update will be coming.
@HubbynHerMotorhomeMoment-ir4dk
@HubbynHerMotorhomeMoment-ir4dk 11 ай бұрын
Just watched your vlog via the big telly. We feel your pain. We have been given the runaround not as bad though, sorry to mention that. Our cablight had a crack in it and a slight leak so asked the dealer to order a replacement under the warranty and it turns out they never submitted a claim. Then they went bankrupt and reformed under a new director, so a year on and I have involved Citizen's Advice etc. Not sure if there is much that can be done. We hope you get to return your campervan and hope you find a replacement very soon. Just subscribed so we can follow you on your, hopefully, happy travels and journey. All the best, Gary and Julie.
@stephenastbury4541
@stephenastbury4541 11 ай бұрын
You have my total sympathy....I bought a camper-van in 2019 from Motorhome Depot, based in Mansfield, Notts but I had to travel to Leeds to see and purchase it. They 'pressured' me from the very beginning and did everything t they could to get the sale. Three months later the gearbox in the Peugoet I bought basically blew up, this was 5 hours before I was due to cross the channel to go to France in it. The company washed their hands of the problem, even when I discovered the seller had a had a 'bodge' repair job done on the van prior to sale through Motorhome. The company I discovered had colluded with the seller. The repairer told me he wouldn't give a guarantee on the gearbox because he knew it wouldn't last! The repair cost me £1.750 and the Company I later learned had had a vast amount of dis-satisfied customers for much the same reasons as myself. Avoid this company at all costs, if they are still trading!
@paulwolf4257
@paulwolf4257 10 ай бұрын
I had the same problem with Swindon caravans, I bought a new 2018 Swift caravan, it flooded on the first day we used it because the waste from the sink wasn't connected plus 13 other faults, We asked for our money back and they refused because the van wasn't fit for purpose, they didn't care.Best of luck
@robwilcox561
@robwilcox561 11 ай бұрын
Just watched the end of the video - is that plastic ABS pipe running below the van? That will last 5 mins out on the road without any protection! Also, the hot and cold pipes are exposed too! If they don't get damaged, they will freeze. I think returning it is by far the best solution.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 10 ай бұрын
Yes, in hindsight, a very poor build quality.
@mailbox1016
@mailbox1016 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear your bad luck with the van. We purchased a New Bailey in Jan this year. We have had 2 x 10 day trips and it has been back to the dealer twice for issues with the rear floor and has to go back again for a delaminated kitchen worktop when the part becomes available. We had a pipe in the bathroom come loose spraying water everywhere in the cupboard under the sink (lucky we were in the van at the time) Ok simple fix by me to fix that . We are booked up for the rest of the year with 24 weeks booked but not sure if the caravan will take it. One good thing for us is our dealer is very good . Good luck and hope it works right for you.
@flashback9966
@flashback9966 11 ай бұрын
We bought a new car and within days the alarm would randomly go off and sometimes the car would even unlock itself. Car went straight back into service and they said there wasn't a fault because they couldn't find it! Then they said they fixed the fault, but I was still getting alarm notifications on my phone app. We notified them within the 30 days but they were being pretty obstructive and didn't want to settle. Luckily for us when we had our test drive and were walking back to the showroom with the Salesman the alarm sounded and I remembered the Salesman looking surprised but he assured us it was nothing. However this proved the fault existed before the car was purchased and they couldn't dispute this. We eventually got our money back, minus a small fee. Like you it was very stressfull time. It's easy to be wise after the event, but it pays to check everything. Good luck and stand your ground. . .
@christinewood8331
@christinewood8331 11 ай бұрын
Alarm going off a lot can mean the battery is dying
@tonyjustice4554
@tonyjustice4554 11 ай бұрын
sadly they are all the same i bought 2 new motor homes from Marquis in Preston (i know once bitten twice shy) both had lots of problems with zero help was at the nec felt sorry for all the people actually buying of them
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for taking the time to comment..... We will be back! ;-)
@OutAndAbout-UK
@OutAndAbout-UK 11 ай бұрын
Sadly, I can’t help but think (from personal experience) build quality just isn’t what it was, and as a result there are more things that just breakdown. Just not acceptable for the money being spent
@robwilcox561
@robwilcox561 11 ай бұрын
It must be so stressful for you both, but thanks for the warning. Unfortunately, you never know how good they will be until you buy from them. Using your channel, reporting to the Caravan and Camping club etc should apply more pressure. Stay as calm as you can and back these cowboys into a corner! We are new to motorhoming and bought a 2009 Autotrail from TMD Motorhomes in Redditch in September last year. It wasn't cheap, but everything we have reported to them - it is an older vehicle, they have repaired without question and the service has been fantastic. We should certainly call out the bad dealerships as you have done, especially given the prices we are talking about, but also mention the ones where we get good service too!
@dancingcarnivore
@dancingcarnivore 11 ай бұрын
Similar experiences with red rose caravans in Preston. Hope things get sorted for you
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for commenting….
@andrewgedney4347
@andrewgedney4347 11 ай бұрын
Some years ago our swift caravan went to Grantham Caravans to repair the alarm system messed around for 6 months without a working alarm and lied to by Grantham caravans - would not use them again
@marcgransden1566
@marcgransden1566 11 ай бұрын
Really feel for you and can understand the service you have received from the said company. Bought 2 caravans from them in the past….never again! Have heart though as there are some great companies out there. I cannot recommend Oaktree Motorhomes highly enough. We bought our motorhome from them in August and their after sales has been exceptional. We did experience a couple of issues which when reported they took full ownership of the issues, resolved them and communicated really well.. we will not use any other company in the future Hope this helps, try to keep your chin up. Marc
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Hello Marc and thanks for taking the time to comment..... A follow up video will be coming but, we will be back in another vehicle, from another supplier ;-) Glad to hear you've ended up with what you wanted and good service. Best wishes! G&D
@Marokan07
@Marokan07 10 ай бұрын
Sad to say I'm not surprised. Too much to type but we were lucky as we had been burned with a private sale previously so looked into things a lot more than we had previously. The saleswoman just bare faced lied to us and even when confronted tried to pass the buck. Every van we looked at was in a disgraceful condition. We wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. So sorry you had all this trouble.
@shaunbarker8290
@shaunbarker8290 11 ай бұрын
I just put a post on Facebook, sorry it'd the first video we've watched of yours . Our heart goes out to you . Trading standards would be my first call. All the best ju and shaun
@OutAndAbout-UK
@OutAndAbout-UK 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to see the situation you find yourself in. Such a shame when you think you’ve found the perfect van and then get a body blow like this! Hope you get it resolved in one way or another very soon!
@TimCAINE
@TimCAINE 10 ай бұрын
Golden rule if you gonna spend more than £20k on a van then you get a full hab check done by an approved service engineer who is a member of the caravan club. Will cost you about £140 but will point out any defects that the dealer should fix and save you a load of stress and heartache.
@Haggii1
@Haggii1 11 ай бұрын
Thanks and I hope you get some good news soon .
@Haggii1
@Haggii1 11 ай бұрын
I've just discovered my camper van has a leak on the windscreen. I've removed the front seats the carpets were soaking wet right back to the living. Iv e removed the wet ares in the living and now just waiting for everything to dry out .nightmare.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
That's bad news indeed, hopefully you have some sort of warranty etc.... if not, dry it to the bone and make certain it's sealed for future use.
@ianburton9223
@ianburton9223 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. And thanks to everyone else that has commented. I've been looking at some sort of mobile holiday vehicle solution for many months now and heard of several unfortunate experiences. Your video is very well structured and presented. It's informative and you stayed clear of any polemical streams of anger. Now I've heard of your experience and those of other contributors in the comments, I've decided to follow the choice described in one of the comments. I'll keep the projected lump sum investment intended for the mobile holiday vehicle, keep my comfortable car and spend the money on other holiday solutions like trains, planes and hotels. Looking forward to the follow up video and hoping you had a successful resolution of your issues.
@Wendy-yr2dc
@Wendy-yr2dc 9 ай бұрын
We've just put down a holding deposit with Granthams (Grantham) on a new ex-demo caravan that we love, however we had the same first impressions as you did with the layout and presentation of the site. The caravans are stored very closely together with limited access and this one had gained quite some green build-up from storage. The compacted caravans make it difficult to clean whilst being stored and not great for display purposes, we were re-assured that the van would be cleaned and PDI'd before collection. Just come across your vlog and starting to feel that my initial instinct could be right! :-(
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 9 ай бұрын
AVOID! I'd genuinely pull out of any purchase with them.
@DABroke
@DABroke 11 ай бұрын
The reputation of a dealer is more often than not on the basis of how they deal with an issue. These faults can unfortunately occur within even the best organisation and quality control, but it's how these issues are dealt with which is important. It sounds as though this company has not shown you any respect or empathy and is clearly focused on the bottom line rather than having a satisfied customer. Fortunately, you appear to have all the evidence you need to reject the vehicle and have a full refund. A good piece of advice I had received was always take some level of finance on big purchases like this as it does give you another avenue to use to get the finance company involved. Good luck to you both and I sincerely hope you get things sorted to your satisfaction.
@nickdavis8467
@nickdavis8467 11 ай бұрын
Hello, so sorry to hear about your problem, I do hope you get your money back without to much of a fight. all the best from Nick in Wolsingham.
@suebanks60
@suebanks60 10 ай бұрын
We had similar problems with a new Bailey caravan we purchased from Bawtry Caravans. We had the caravan 80 plus days and it spent 60 plus in repair...water bowling in the front window, fridge cooking not cooling, boiler and pump not working after 2nd time it was in workshop. We gave up asking for a refund in the end and traded it in for a VW T5. These dealers need looking at, they need a dedicated ombudsman to stop them conning people.
@jackmason4374
@jackmason4374 11 ай бұрын
You simply have to tell the seller you are rejecting the vehicle . You do not have to explain anything to them you do not even have to return the vehicle, just tell them when and where to pick it up and you want a full refund , I had similar with a firm near Lancaster ,they will try and fob you off until you run out of the 30 day return law
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Hello, it should be that simple, but trust me, it wasn't.... Such an awful experience with this company.
@jackmason4374
@jackmason4374 11 ай бұрын
@@tourinandchillin there all pretty much the same all smiles and nice until they have your money, I paid a deposit for van on the proviso that they supply me with information on who converted the van etc which they wouldn’t, so after a week of no response I sent email asking where and too whom the court order should be sent too,the deposit was back in my account two hours later .
@darrenpardoe
@darrenpardoe 11 ай бұрын
No worries about running out of time. The time is when you first told them your returning the van.
@jency5537
@jency5537 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely shocked at the standard of care you have NOT received, but very pleased that you are no longer the owners of that mess!! We are just buying our fifth motorhome, the fourth from MDG Motorhomes near Ringwood in Hampshire and Poole in Dorset. They are a wonderful company to deal with, go out of their way to make sure customers are happy who will of course return to them when changing their van at a later date. They have just again won " 2024 Practical Motorhome Gold Award owner satisfaction award with 97.2 % of customers happy, won many times before!! It might seem a long way to travel but the cost of fuel, plus a night in a hotel is nothing to the stress you have just gone through. I have no connection with the company apart from as a regular customer but mention them because I would like to see others as curteously treated as we have been. Good Luck and Happy travels for the future!!
@alinherts5414
@alinherts5414 11 ай бұрын
If you are within the 30 days since you purchased it you can reject it and get a full refund. We had a similar problem with water when we purchased a new Bailey caravan. The flush water tank was split and when we filled it on our first trip out it flooded the caravan and ruined half of the carpets!
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Hello... Yes, that's what we did.... but they were awful.
@georgeton4991
@georgeton4991 11 ай бұрын
@@tourinandchillin if thats Grantham, Lincolnshire lol the whole town should be avoided...
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
@@georgeton4991 Hello…. Grathams in Retford in our case.
@meurigjones2469
@meurigjones2469 10 ай бұрын
You're saying "they were awful", I take it by that then, that it's been sorted?
@markhannan4712
@markhannan4712 11 ай бұрын
Hope you get it sorted nobody should have to go through what your going through any decent company would refund you or sort the problems out
@richardnsarahg7763
@richardnsarahg7763 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like a fairly common response from a dealer. Our van had a leaking roof light,we were advised by the dealer that the "10 year ingress warranty" is void,the reason being that we didn't have the habitation check done at the dealership. I don't trust any if them,they're only any good when your giving them money.
@pageant1fd
@pageant1fd 11 ай бұрын
My second annual habitation check was carried out by a registered independent inspector and he found a huge amount of damp in a motorhome just two years old. It took the threat of solicitors and that the inspector was prepared to make statements plus appear in court if required. The main importer for my vehicle was quickly contacted and remedial work was performed. Stressful and as you mentioned they take your money then abandon you.
@keithfletcher6358
@keithfletcher6358 10 ай бұрын
really feel for you both since 2015 had 4 caravans all these dealers deserve to go under they just do not give a toss , once the money as been handed over that is it i do all the jobs myself now, the warranty not worth the paper its written on god help you buying another one .
@stmrb
@stmrb 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I hope things have worked out for you as they have treated you very badly. Any updates.
@Haggii1
@Haggii1 11 ай бұрын
That’s the plan it’s an old camper van so no warranty. I think it’s been leaking since I bought it . Just need some hot weather and the carpet and underlay will dry out .
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Well, I wish you the very best with it.
@garybird8646
@garybird8646 11 ай бұрын
First Motorhome took back before warranty expired to get light and aerial fixed was asked if I still wanted the other items due from the PDI, as in they sold me the vehicle and didn't mention the outstanding items. Got the lot done was told the trial was fixed, it wasn't. Phoned them to be told they never work! Whilst dropping it off mentioned that I was going to sell it, they offered me 55k. I sold it for 70k. Replacement camper van different dealer, not much of a handover. Phoned them and said it felt under powered for a 180BHP engine and discovered I'd been sent completely the wrong specification for this van, an agreement was made that I could use it until the new one arrived. When it eventually did they tried to charge me the difference the sales guy had left and nothing was in writing, we ended in a stalemate and they gave me my money back which was fair enough. Third van another dealer, was told the original owner didn't get on with the pop top it was a six Month old van. Waited six weeks for collection they are that busy! On the way home a motorist flagged me down on the motorway pointing to the roof lifting, phoned them and was told to call the warranty team in the morning. Yes you got that, me chase them! luckily the warranty guy called didn't leave direct contact details, they collected a week later and I didn't hear anything for a few days so I exercised my rights under the 30 day rule. Fourth van, kinked hose to shower never heard back, mirror fell off mounts and broke in shower enclosure ongoing. Other warranty I sorted myself directly with manufacturers. I run a business and the service at these dealers is absolutely shocking, anyone can take your money but the guys that look after you well when things go wrong are where you should shop in the future.
@tommyroche9142
@tommyroche9142 11 ай бұрын
I had a similar situation a few years back, but with a car so I'd imagine a lot less money involved. It taught me one good lesson and that is to trust my instincts. I'd seen the car in photos with scenery in the background but when I arrived the 'Showroom' was basically a shed in a farm yard. The car was covered in muck which the guy said was because he had taken it for a spin that morning to make sure everything was ok. It hadn't rained in a couple of weeks, so he obviously just couldn't be bothered cleaning it. Bought the car and within days discovered serious issues. It was a bit of a faff getting my money back, but a legal letter did the trick. Since then I've lived by the maxim " If it don't smell right, steer clear. Easy to say with hindsight I know, but if you feel like something is off as soon as you arrive at a business, then turn around.
@douglastodd1947
@douglastodd1947 11 ай бұрын
YOU SAY YOU'VE HAD IT ABOUT 3 WKS, Did you get an Ex - Display Vehicle Discount,,, they're trying to run your Lawful right to return 30 day time limit out , make sure you hand them a Dated letter stating your exercising your 30 day right to return with keys in Envelope & proof Video /sound recording ,, You should have reported them to Trading Standards stating your trying to exercise your right to return , & their refusing to accept the van back ,
@fredjones8791
@fredjones8791 10 ай бұрын
You did not have it checked before you bought it ?a fool and his money are easily parted
@padraig4530
@padraig4530 10 ай бұрын
Surely, Granthams have to give total refund.What a brass neck, they have.Chin up bud,hope things get sorted,in your favour, very soon.👋👋
@hughmacnaughton7576
@hughmacnaughton7576 11 ай бұрын
Bought a brand new Burstner from a dealer near Chelston Somerset. 7 year water ingress warranty. We had them change the air-conditioning unit from the van we were trading in. They used the same rubber seal, it leaked. They refused to honour the warranty. Eventually CamperUK discovered 7 leaks in the van. Somerset dealership still didn't want to know. Bought our current van from CamperUK. Excellent service.
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 11 ай бұрын
Why would there be a warranty on your used air conditioner unit
@Wendy-yr2dc
@Wendy-yr2dc 9 ай бұрын
How did your meeting go with them?
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 9 ай бұрын
Hello Wendy… I’ve replied to your email.. many thanks.
@paulwatts1281
@paulwatts1281 11 ай бұрын
Take someone with you, you can miss a lot of whats said! Evan better record everything thats said. You could find because of your distress you become muddled on what excuses and lies they will inevitable use
@colinnewmarch1106
@colinnewmarch1106 11 ай бұрын
Wow sorry to here that, my friend had a problem,with a heki rooflight, if leaked dreadfully ,he contacted Eldiss who were not interested ,stating he must have caused it ,told he should have taken it to a approved dealer, when he explained that it needed urgent attention,so he took it to the nearest dealer, eventually Eldiiss paid out ,all the best
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment.... Please keep an eye out for the follow up video :-)
@martynreed9322
@martynreed9322 11 ай бұрын
We've recently looked at newer vans and not happy with build quality or materials used. Not a lot t choose between them all. We're sticking with our 18 yr old VW Karmann quality built t last. Good luck and don't take no for an answer.
@DaveH-t9s
@DaveH-t9s 11 ай бұрын
What an awful situation and definitely name and shame . You come across as a decent bloke and not a newbie to Motorhomes. Hopefully it is pretty clear that the van is not fit for purpose and it should be taken back and get your money back. Customer service when things go wrong is the true reflection of a decent company. Sometimes shit happens but it how the company responds. Hope you get it sorted ASAP and get back on the road. Cheers Dave
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 11 ай бұрын
Bummer. That's defo not right. Requiring them to fix it is obviously fair enough. We just bought a new van last week (well 6-yr old van, new conversion). As you say it's a lot of money. Everything has been fine so far, so I'm currently happy to recommend 'Voyager Camper Conversions" in Ruabon, Wales (if you want a Vivaro/Trafic/Primastar). But who knows what we'll find over the next few weeks. Obviously we've not any significant problems (yet) so who knows, but I got the strong impression that were decent, no frills, people who would do you a fair deal. As opposed to 'salesmen' types with a fancy showroom and suits. Don't think I got any special paperwork about the gas mind - it never occurred to me that I needed any. It's got a gas locker and a shutoff value (2 on the pipework, so 4 in total!) so that looks fine to me.
@ianyoung2696
@ianyoung2696 9 ай бұрын
I'm shocked at people parting with loads of money only to find they have bought a 🍋. The van has probably been in a accident " head light hanging off" did you to a hpi check !. Good look😮
@johnhipkiss5840
@johnhipkiss5840 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you I brought a basecamp four from them. On the day of collection fridge air vents were hanging off, bed was broken, toilet didnt work. They just take Your money and then ignore you. I went to Swift themselves Who have taken me under their wing and are fixing all my issues, with a dealer near me, it was when the cooker fell out onto the floor that Swift got involved, all Granthams accussed me of going over a pot hole.
@simonlittlewood6268
@simonlittlewood6268 10 ай бұрын
So sorry to hear this awful experience. It wouod appear this is more and more the rule rather than the exception. Whats wrong with these companies. Don't deserve to be in business
@familyadventures9723
@familyadventures9723 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to see your problem. We have had issues in the past and even had to hand a auto Trail back. That was brand-new because of poor build, quality and the company failing to fix anything. my golden rule is always have some finance as the finance company will take care of all the problems and the legal matters. Even if it’s for the first year it acts as an insurance policy.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment.... Please keep an eye out for the follow up video :-)
@jeffreygarrett2668
@jeffreygarrett2668 10 ай бұрын
Really feel for you. Dreadful experience! Really pleased you have got a refund. Push for full refund of costs incurred as presumably, liability has been acknowledged by way of refund received. Publishing this video has saved a few people from dealing with this company and the same heartache, no doubt. I do hope you can move on and get the vehicle you can enjoy!
@Raf-zu5le
@Raf-zu5le 11 ай бұрын
I hope you don't mind me asking - who is the actual converter? Leaving aside the leak, those tanks and water pipes underneath aren't insulated either. I'm sure your inspection would have highlighted that too? I hope you get sorted on Monday 👍
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for taking the time to comment... It was a Moto Trek, Leasure Treka.
@London-q4i
@London-q4i 11 ай бұрын
Hi. Sorry to hear your story. If they don't accept you returning the vehicle. Take legal advice and then consider taking the company to court. Good luck Clive.
@dwsimon1
@dwsimon1 10 ай бұрын
My son played a football match jist round the corner from them a few weeks back, over an hour from home so while there i called in, the showground is an absolute state, vans on sale in 50 sahdes of green. And swampy. Young salesman heard lying to a customer about towing weights saying just drive slow and it would be fine 100kg over
@ianwheeler7903
@ianwheeler7903 11 ай бұрын
That is terrible. I personally would go back to the converter and get them out to inspect it. The dealer obviously does not care. That van has not had any PDI check done on it. Out of interest what is the brand of the converter?
@kevinjones7701
@kevinjones7701 11 ай бұрын
Went there Sunday, was not happy with the dealers site, over run with stock , no customer parking , looked at simular van s, dirty floor not displayed well, could not find key for another van , glad we did not comit to buy , even more after seeing your video.
@paulmarwood4325
@paulmarwood4325 11 ай бұрын
Dreadful story but no surprise, we purchased a new Coachman caravan ten years ago, two years later the washroom sink began to break up, Coachman refused any help stating my fault, lesson learned there. I can understand you purchasing with your heart and emotion, keeping a cool head is not always easy, but the sorry state it was in, irrespective of being ex display, no second key and no documentation would for me have set alarm bells ringing. Personally I wouldn't have handed any money over until all missing docs and keys were accounted for. Easy to say I suppose, I truly hope it all works out as I have considered an Autotrail. Best of luck mate.
@cornwallandbeyondwithsmith8119
@cornwallandbeyondwithsmith8119 11 ай бұрын
Absolute disgrace. We got our van new 12 months ago and had a number of issues. when I spoke to the owner of the dealership and said I wanted my money back he said I was petty and nothing is perfect..... well a 70 grand motorhome should be!!! Good luck and we shall be watching closely
@ziasiddique1800
@ziasiddique1800 11 ай бұрын
We went to the Grantham site to have a look last year. But it was too much trouble for them to let you view a Motorhome. They are without a doubt the rudest we have ever come in contact with. I too would advise people not to buy from them. Good luck to you guys.
@themotorbikecamper5990
@themotorbikecamper5990 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video, I now know to avoid these, as they were shortlisted to view a van in the coming weeks 😎👍🏍️
@Skinhead-201
@Skinhead-201 11 ай бұрын
What an unmitigated nightmare. I hope you get it resolved. I'm absolutely raging just watching that video. Utter c****.
@terryrees8574
@terryrees8574 11 ай бұрын
They don't need to inspect it. They are legally obliged to issue a full refund as you've had it less than 30 days. Thanks for advising of this company. Possibly should have waited for the refund before posting this though. Wish you all the best.
@FieldviewAdventures
@FieldviewAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Onwards and upwards mate , sounds very distressing for you both 😢
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Hello Field View family! Yep, been awful, video to follow…. But we’ve moved on ;-)
@timsmith1292
@timsmith1292 10 ай бұрын
I hired one first the quality was shocking i never bothered again was going to buy one. Am i glad i hired.
@davidbacon2428
@davidbacon2428 11 ай бұрын
We had exactly your problems with a caravan purchased from Grantham caravans they didn’t give a toss the serious problems including bodywork issues a freezer that wouldn’t freeze we could write a book,we finished up dealing with Lunar caravans direct and finished up selling it on after eight months an absolutely diabolical company to deal with,our mistake was paying cash. Had we purchased on finance the finance company would have dealt with them. Best of look with your encounters
@robincurwood
@robincurwood 10 ай бұрын
Good luck. There are to many cowboys out there.
@MakeDoAndMend1
@MakeDoAndMend1 11 ай бұрын
Chanel or ChaNNel. 😂 Cheers from sad old George. We have owned several caravans, motorhome and now a campervan. We have had water pump ticking problems but now never leave the pumps switched on when not using taps. The system is a pressurised and the slightest leak becomes major until tank is empty and then pump burns out. Quite a common fault. Hope you get it sorted. Ps remember to drain system down in winter as it freezes up and creates leeks.
@grahamlongdon8448
@grahamlongdon8448 11 ай бұрын
I had a problem last year with my 11 month old old Motorhome various problems ,the point being. This shocking treatment of the customer by dealers who don’t apologise for the inconvenience and stress caused as it would show some kind of liability has really got to stop.They don’t care all read from the same script parrot fashion.none of the main clubs seem to bring this issue up as who pays for the advertising and main m/homing mags?Pre delivery checks must be done wearing welding goggles.
@davidevans7856
@davidevans7856 10 ай бұрын
Get big signs all around van and park it as close to them as possible
@MotorhomeMums
@MotorhomeMums 11 ай бұрын
Oh dear. That is really bad and definitely sounds like a dealership worth avoiding.
@sccobyste
@sccobyste 11 ай бұрын
Have you got the link or details for the carpets please
@malcolmturton9779
@malcolmturton9779 11 ай бұрын
Most carpet firms will supply a "Whipping" service for carpets. You can pick your own carpets and the whipping costs around £5 per running metre. I replaced the carpets in my caravan for about £120 using very good quality carpet. Need to choose practical carpet obviously.
@levt7651
@levt7651 11 ай бұрын
What a shame. A really awful type of experience, exponentially compounded by their treatment of you. People really don't seem to care how their attitudes can really take chunks out of others. Very sorry you're going through this BS.
@Bugs1953
@Bugs1953 10 ай бұрын
Keep the faith.😊
@peter.russell
@peter.russell 11 ай бұрын
So sorry you are having to go through this. Reject it. Hand the keys back. They have to refund in such circumstances. Astonishing behaviour by Grantham's. Oddly they get over 4*'s on Google reviews. We recently bought a motorhome from Newport Caravans and Motorhomes and the experience could not have been better. We are 250 miles away and there was a minor issue on the Fiat side to took to my local Fiat Professional who said they may have to charge. I rang Newport Caravans who said not to worry if Fiat charged, they'd reimburse me. Brilliant, reassuring dealer. Hope you get sorted quickly so you can get on with your lives.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Law of averages must say that most people are happy, hence the review, but there must be a very good percentage of people who've been nothing but shafted after they've spent their hard earned money.
@ajw1467
@ajw1467 10 ай бұрын
i reckon the shower panels will need replacing the floor possibly as well i do hope you get sorted and refunded granthams have really buggered them selfs now is on you tube good luck hope you get money baclk
@thordrewsean
@thordrewsean 11 ай бұрын
hope you got a independent inspection organised by yourself
@howellbillington5610
@howellbillington5610 11 ай бұрын
I really feel sorry for you. I think you're going the right way to complaining, you have a solid case against this company. Once you hand over the van when will you receive your, money back. What about legal representation. Good luck
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for taking the time to comment.... There will be a follow up video to come :-) We're still struggling, but for different reasons.
@davidhughes7041
@davidhughes7041 11 ай бұрын
Push fit fittings without inserts bet that whats causing the leaks no manufacturer uses them saves a few quid .
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
We've not been told of the actual cause.... There will be a follow up video... We're moving on now :-)
@MikeDuffy-fp4zy
@MikeDuffy-fp4zy 11 ай бұрын
Sorry that you've had this experience . I do hope you get your money back and some sort of compensation. Thanks for them being flagged as shit house. Hope you get a good result 👍
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment.... Please keep an eye out for the follow up video :-)
@TheMilford99
@TheMilford99 10 ай бұрын
All dealers = over friendly. Easy to talk about hindsight, but should have walked when you saw what condition it was on first viewing.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 10 ай бұрын
Truth is, I totally agree with you. :-(
@Riccicaravanadventures
@Riccicaravanadventures 11 ай бұрын
I feel your pain. I was beginning to think it was just us that’s had a bad experience with this company. The PDI is non existent in our experience as our brand new caravan had so many issues. Including a gap in the main habitation door that you could see daylight through. We try to keep our channel as positive as possible but I do think people need to know about bad experiences to help them to not make the same mistakes as we did. We have ongoing issues from when we first had the van that has been back to be rectified several times but still have issues. The cost of taking it back and forth and the personal free time it takes as well is just extraordinary! We’ve dealt with at least 2 aftersales people over the last year which have tried to help as best they can. It seems there’s a big turnover of staff possibly. As I say you are not on your own unfortunately. Have a look back at my videos from around this time last year.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
The more I dig the worse this company sounds! Thankyou for taking the time to comment. A follow video is to come.
@Riccicaravanadventures
@Riccicaravanadventures 11 ай бұрын
@@tourinandchillin knowing what I know now I would of rejected our van. As much as we love it, it’s not fair that they get away with so much when we are parting with large amounts of hard earned money.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
@@Riccicaravanadventures it’s a disgrace, they deal with such large sums of money they that even 70k seems to mean nothing to them. They must be trained to be that awful, it can’t come natural. They certainly don’t deserve to succeed that’s for sure. I was told that the owners also own Swift. No shortage of money there then. We’ll have to meet up for a moan one of these days :-)
@Riccicaravanadventures
@Riccicaravanadventures 11 ай бұрын
@@tourinandchillin definitely a meet up. When these things happen you do feel isolated and feels like why me ? We are slowly getting there with our caravan. I wonder how many people just give in and don’t fight for what’s right though! I get that sense that a lot of people just accept they won’t ever resolve their issues so just make do. As I say I hate being negative but it seems sometimes the negative stuff is more attractive for people to view too.
@Nailyboy1970
@Nailyboy1970 10 ай бұрын
Very sad, it’s a lot of money to be mistreated. Hope it all works out.
@mrgrumpy9077
@mrgrumpy9077 10 ай бұрын
contact a solicitor before you go. , thanks for the warning ,
@Jones-xx2gc
@Jones-xx2gc 10 ай бұрын
What a joke, hope you get it sorted.
@chrisw138
@chrisw138 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the staff at Arnold Clark. Me: "But its under warranty" Arnold Clark reply. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bettyboop69ism
@bettyboop69ism 11 ай бұрын
Just shocking. I hope you get your money back mate. I wouldn't trust them to rectify anything.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou for taking the time to comment.... An update will follow..... x
@howardoliver8469
@howardoliver8469 11 ай бұрын
I had problems from a very well known dealer when I purchased my Motorhome. They are all over you when they know they have a sale, But as soon as problems start, they do not want to know, I will never go back to them. but then they don't care they just move on to the next sucker.
@valeriesawczyn7370
@valeriesawczyn7370 11 ай бұрын
Gutted for you home you get sorted. Just found you will subscribe for updates. Good luck to you.
@robertfrost5020
@robertfrost5020 11 ай бұрын
The fact they wont go through the issue with you personally, after you offered, (said they will do it independently) leaves them on ridiculously dodgy ground legally. All the emphasis is on them to prove it's your fault not theirs. It will make them look very unfair and unreasonable if you have to go to court to get your money back.
@stevezodiac491
@stevezodiac491 11 ай бұрын
It's not your fault that it has happened but with a motorised liesure vehicle or caravan moving, vibration inevitably can cause push fit pipes to come undone. For that reason, we never leave our caravan with the pump on, when we leave it unattended and always shut it off as we go to bed. That way, if a leak ever occurs, we are there to stop it straight away, before it causes major damage. Just recently our pump was not working properly on camp site arrival, we found the inlet push fitting leaking air into the inlet side of the pump on a push fitting and it had been perfectly o.k. the outing before, therefore the pipe coming loose must have been caused by motion vibration. I always check suspect points throughout the van, where I can get to for leaks and expect the pump to immediately stop after the pipework has initially pressurised, if it doesn't there is a leak or a pump problem.
@darshermusic
@darshermusic 11 ай бұрын
So Sorry to hear your story but I don't think this is A/ An isolated incident and B/ The only caravan dealership that treats their customers like this. We had issues only as recently as the last 6 weeks with Glossop's Caravans whereby we were treated with disdain, disrespect and contempt over legit problems we had with their service (or lack of it), customer service and aftercare.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Frightening really... Spend this on a car and you'd get much better service. Sorry to hear of your experience also.
@nobbybrown8056
@nobbybrown8056 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like they will fight you all the way, I think you will need a solicitor, that way you are ready if it needs to go to court and you can seek costs from them also, as it looks like an open and shut case, it's clear to see they are negligent with the vehicle preperation, it's not anything you've done.
@colinphillipson4830
@colinphillipson4830 11 ай бұрын
Because of these build quality issues by all manufacturers and poor dealership customer care we've decided to not invest £70-75,000. We are now travelling around the country in our electric car staying at Haven campsites, bed and breakfasts, travelodge and Premier inns. We booked a quick 7 day holiday to Spain half board and all flights and transfers via TUI in January for £532. We think this is a far better way to spend our savings and not have all the associated hassle and expense of owning a motorhome/campervan. I was looking for a follow up video and I hope that the hand back was successful with a full refund.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
Hello.... I hear you... But I simply prefer the idea of lounging in a vehicle being able to go when I want, where I want.... But glad your decision is working for you.
@andrewparton1551
@andrewparton1551 11 ай бұрын
Shocking service from these people at Retford. IH motorhomes is the place to be for new and used sales. Quality.
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 11 ай бұрын
I'd agree that great deal of new builds are far from perfect in the way of quality craftsmanship...
@ScepticPJ
@ScepticPJ 10 ай бұрын
Easter has passed. Any news?
@tourinandchillin
@tourinandchillin 10 ай бұрын
Hello.. Yes indeed.... Waiting on my GoPro to be repaired and I'll upload a new video.
@ukman9797
@ukman9797 10 ай бұрын
You have the right to reject the vehicle under the sales of goods in the first 28days, stating it is not of merchantable quality as the vehicle has inherent faults. I did this with a van. And got my money back.
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