Our Ring-Spec Toyota GT-86: Mods, Maintenance, Struggles and Love

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Misha Charoudin

Misha Charoudin

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@seanm.collins9888
@seanm.collins9888 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, nice love these garage talks with George.
@stevenvandenbosch6068
@stevenvandenbosch6068 3 жыл бұрын
yes, but sometimes I get the feeling George is waiting until Misha gets out so he can get on with his work LOL
@seanm.collins9888
@seanm.collins9888 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenvandenbosch6068 what if George secretly have an Onlyfans account?
@stevenvandenbosch6068
@stevenvandenbosch6068 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanm.collins9888 if he told me about it, it wouldn't be a secret much longer!
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 3 жыл бұрын
I hope these sessions will continue. Invaluable information what works, much more reliable than scouring forums for track reliability information.
@Official_MikeyT
@Official_MikeyT 3 жыл бұрын
Not to worry about the GT86 as a financial mistake because the whole concept of being a car enthusiast is a financial mistake. No financially intelligent person would spend load of money on running a fleet of rapidly depreciating cars.
@tolga1cool
@tolga1cool 3 жыл бұрын
Going by the "spending on stuff that doesn't advance you is a mistake" mentality you shouldn't be allowed to have hobbies lol
@kevildub
@kevildub 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comment. I just got a used 86 to use on the track and seeing the cash leave my bank account was a bit depressing. Now I feel a bit better 😄.
@KosmicKitchen
@KosmicKitchen 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree that being a car enthusiast is a financial mistake (being a BRZ owner :-)
@golding69
@golding69 2 жыл бұрын
The 86 or BRZ can be the best financial mistake or one of the least hurtful, most enjoyable ones, compared to most other cars. The "cost to fun ratio" this platform offers is near impossible to match. This is one of the platforms that makes the most sense... or contains the least amount of non-sense... compared to bigger financial non-senses out there.
@LucidLoki
@LucidLoki Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I would call it a financial mistake . Just paying for entertainment if you can afford it. Gotta pay to play!
@Rockit181
@Rockit181 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing more on the 86! I've been going back through and watching the old videos on it!
@UberSpartanVG
@UberSpartanVG 3 жыл бұрын
Same, this is so much more informative tho!
@TheChipMcDonald
@TheChipMcDonald 3 жыл бұрын
The most satisfying car purchase I've made. As a daily driver I don't need more hp. It's baffling to me that anyone other than someone into drag racing would be thinking about hp when driving it. How... proportionate it feels going into a corner versus exiting feels so *right*. Best part of the day is driving to and from work in it, I'll drive a different route often just for the sake of it. More expensive, less mpg, heavier, less balanced - any of that wrecks the gestalt of the perfect production car.
@spongesurf12
@spongesurf12 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Bought mine in 2013 and still love her today. So fun each and every day and easy to test limits without going at jail time speeds. A few minor mods for fun and that’s it.
@great-life-experiences2024
@great-life-experiences2024 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. my 2015 FRS and 3K of mods is just a pleasure :D
@michaeljohn1160
@michaeljohn1160 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. Have a 2018 base. The power is perfect for the car. Just wish they would have built a “track edition” that would have been lighter. Oh, I drive it in the winter with blizzacks. The traction control is amazing.
@hamzasherazi9334
@hamzasherazi9334 3 жыл бұрын
The OG's will still remember Max's reaction when he was shown the damage on this car. I remember saying he will become a pure petrolhead. Loving these technical videos with George. Show hijacked by Robert this time though. A proper recipe for a enjoyable car imo. Front engine, RWD, manual, enough hp that it can move along nicely.
@golding69
@golding69 2 жыл бұрын
You guys nailed to perfection the description of what this very accurate, genius, work of art platform the Toyota 86 (or Subaru BRZ) is all about! Brings much happiness when "comrades" of your caliber, knowledge, skill and expertise in cars give the praise and recognition the platform merits or deserves. You guys are geniuses in how carefully and methodically you did your upgrades/mods.
@michaeljohn1160
@michaeljohn1160 3 жыл бұрын
Love owner’s comment. I’d trade my other cars before the 86. Spot on. I have a 2018 brz base. Low track expenses! At 2601lbs, 220hp, just a blast. The car makes you a better driver on the track. I’m in the brz more then the gt3. So true, powerful cars don’t teach you about momentum driving. I did relocate the battery to the trunk. It’s an almost a perfect 50/50 balance.
@davidfreeman4407
@davidfreeman4407 3 жыл бұрын
Love this content always really interesting watching a non biased opinion from a good mechanic and a good driver.
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 3 жыл бұрын
and from testing at the ring. You know what works there will work at your local track. This channel's content is uniquely awesome. Also would like to say what an awesome boss
@CFArmouredCrewman
@CFArmouredCrewman 3 жыл бұрын
Now you just need to order an MX5 Global Cup car! Robert would love that thing.
@andrelakay4750
@andrelakay4750 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, I agree with Robert if you enjoy driving a certain car why would you get rid of it. Damn Misha it's a 86,you can't go wrong. Years ago in South Africa Toyotas slogan was, EVERYTHING KEEPS GOING RIGHT TOYOTA. By the way I'm a Toyota driver. Keep it up guys
@anothermike4825
@anothermike4825 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me happy with my decision to buy a Scion FRS.
@5thgearouttahere
@5thgearouttahere 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I took a long country drive to pass 15000km in my GT86 Brembo/Sachs, really enjoy it!
@Kuhfuss75
@Kuhfuss75 3 жыл бұрын
I can fully Understand why you keep this Car in your Fleet. Got also an GT86 and drove it on the NRing, its really fun to drive. The GT86 replaced my MX-5, that i drove for 18 years.
@A_Ride_To
@A_Ride_To 3 жыл бұрын
NA/NB/NC/ND?
@TeeJayka
@TeeJayka 3 жыл бұрын
@@A_Ride_To The only MX-5 that could be driven for 18 years are NA and NB.
@A_Ride_To
@A_Ride_To 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeeJayka you are right 😂 i wasnt thinking properly. I would guess that it was the NB because NA models tend to turn into a single rusty problem when driven for that long sadly.
@Kuhfuss75
@Kuhfuss75 3 жыл бұрын
@@A_Ride_To It was a NA from 1992, loved it, but sometimes its Time for something new in Life.
@jhill92
@jhill92 3 жыл бұрын
George is just a top bloke imo. So laid back. Just the type of guy you'd love to hang around with in the garage, drink a couple beers while modifying your cars...
@poot111111
@poot111111 3 жыл бұрын
What rear gear ratio did you install? Edit: beautiful paint
@justcallmejefe
@justcallmejefe 3 жыл бұрын
The way Robert connects with the Apex GT86 is so similar to how I feel about my FR-S. Mine is also setup as a light track build (coilovers, BBK, bushings, oil cooler, LWFW, 195 whp), and primarily used for track days and canyons. Completely understand when Robert says he wants to keep the GT86 long-term despite having owned faster cars. I may end up doing the same, although it'll be interesting to see how the second gen compares.
@BoredEngineer
@BoredEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons engine oil cooling might subjectively work is the OEM strategy for the ECU in dealing with it. The engine has an oil temperature sensor and when too hot, power is slightly reduced to protect itself. This can account for the perception of reduced power overall, as it is nothing obvious like a reduced redline we get on other cars. I run a BRZ in Brazilian climate, fully stock and I must say even spirited driving on Mountain Roads on a mild day get's the oil around ~140C (as per cluster graph indication). But with the ECU countermeasures it just won't go past that, even putting non-stop 1h, lap after lap on a hot day, though you then feel the power loss more noticeably. It's still a bit of a concern for me, I run Motul's 300V 5W30 to be on a safer side but am still looking around for a good oil cooling offer. By the way, I actually booked this BRZ last year with you guys but sadly it was on an elevator when I arrived and I had to drive the Cupra :/. Thanks for opening up the garage and the blunt discussions, good content!
@TeeJayka
@TeeJayka 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shiet in 140C, 5W-30 can't keep sufficient oil pressure that the BRZ needs. Sorry for you engine.
@UberSpartanVG
@UberSpartanVG 3 жыл бұрын
Man I've been waiting for this video, great to see how you guys sorted the car for tons of nurburgring laps for reference as I keep adding track mods to my 2019 86!
@edwardwitty1603
@edwardwitty1603 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah have a Brz myself and can confirm went through x3 stock gearboxes before i put straight car gears been like this 2 years never missed a beat love it
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 2 жыл бұрын
What's the model of your straight gear box, now ?.
@gms03sbd3
@gms03sbd3 3 жыл бұрын
The way Robert looks the car and talk about it makes me want one sooooo hard.
@P1stoler0
@P1stoler0 3 жыл бұрын
great content as always. i drive a brz by myself ...love every kilometer with it.
@robiulahmed
@robiulahmed 3 жыл бұрын
Verus engineering make a carbon synchro kit. It supposedly makes the gearbox a lot more durable.
@thegroundhurts
@thegroundhurts 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue is the circlip on 4th gear.
@miketejero
@miketejero 3 жыл бұрын
Robert is right sticking with the GT86. That is exactly the same car it replaced back in 1986, a real driver's car.
@Woody-ve3lu
@Woody-ve3lu 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 2017 BRZ inazuma. Wouldn't trade it for anything!
@drivenchris
@drivenchris 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Misha and the Apex gang for all the content this year, especially the technical chat like this! I think it's helped so many of us get through the year with some kind of entertainment, especially if we couldn't get out on track ourselves much! Enjoy your holidays, already looking forward to next year.
@golding69
@golding69 3 жыл бұрын
2020 BRZ Ts - I enjoy driving and owning the most (genius concept). Makes sense in terms of relative low cost of ownership and maintance. Refreshing simplicity. Thanks for sharing this video!
@Richard_Turner
@Richard_Turner 3 жыл бұрын
We wouldn't be car guys if we didn't follow the Financial mistake route 🤣
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 3 жыл бұрын
Literally the next topic that I'm making a video about. One of the tips is to just rent someone elses car! Go see Misha! ha!
@Richard_Turner
@Richard_Turner 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrendanEvan renting is fun but having your own is also fun. How to make a million in motorsport? Start with a billion 🤣
@_chipchip
@_chipchip 3 жыл бұрын
Had an absolute blast driving this thing a couple years back. Great car, and really well setup. Gearbox was nice when I drove it! (and I was nice to it).
@TheRichardmintern
@TheRichardmintern 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Misha. George and Robert. Great video as always. Happy Christmas.
@FireEye-zd4fm
@FireEye-zd4fm 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, finally the GT86 video. Looking forward to driving it again.
@dmitrykireev3607
@dmitrykireev3607 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably the first video to get a like after first 30 seconds or so. And after watching it's clear that the like could follow after just seeing the title. It's a shame that we don't have a spec series with this car on a short tracks. That would be the perfect learning class for amateurs. Better than various Logan/Cruze/E36/whateverElse cups, better than GT4 and probably even better that Carrera Cup.
@thatonebeone
@thatonebeone 3 жыл бұрын
id love to drive that 86.. owned a 2013 and now a brz ts 2020. car is so fun to drive if you know what you are doing
@gnarlykoala
@gnarlykoala 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky man. Enjoy it!
@UberSpartanVG
@UberSpartanVG 3 жыл бұрын
Same, theres is so well track prepped, I wanna know how much that final drive helps on track compared to my stock 4.3 final drive. And man I wish I had JRZs, but I guess I'll settle for the KW Clubsports on my 86...
@thatonebeone
@thatonebeone 3 жыл бұрын
@@UberSpartanVG my brz ts has a shorter rear diff gear and its more of a kick compared to my 2013... 1 2 3 gear makes the car have a grunt pull on twisted turns, should of been like this from start. im keeping my brz ts stock as it already has all the fine tuned stuff on it from STI its perfect out the box for my use. my instagram is "itsmemarky" if you want to check it out lol
@UberSpartanVG
@UberSpartanVG 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatonebeone Yeah you have to 2020 ts right, I believe those have the same 4.3 final drive as all the 2017+ models but with the sti short shifter. I have a 2019 so I have the same final drive but I've never driven the older model with the 4.1 but you and everyone else says its way slower feeling. I gave ya a follow, and man I want to grab the 2018 ts with the goofy wing at some point but the 2020 is still sick.
@thatonebeone
@thatonebeone 3 жыл бұрын
@@UberSpartanVG yeah idk why the 2020 didnt come with the GT wing and aero kit..had to buy the aero kit.. the wing is nice but wasnt for me as i dont track my car as much havent yet due to tracks are closed now days... one day ill buy a used trunk get it painted and put a wing on it for when i go on track day use..
@subnegro4946
@subnegro4946 3 жыл бұрын
I own a boosted 86(310whp) for 6 years and 3.5 of that is boosted and even after 6 years I love it to pieces. It's like a front engine Cayman S with Apexi coilovers/Brembos and 17x9 wheels with Re71r in 245/40.
@wheelsmcfury4086
@wheelsmcfury4086 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this video! You answered all of my questions before I ever asked them!
@BrendanEvan
@BrendanEvan 3 жыл бұрын
This is the dream, a new car with minimal engine mods and a ton of grippy upgrades. Ready to be thrashed.
@fabianbrosi6935
@fabianbrosi6935 3 жыл бұрын
I was very much looking forward to this video! Thanks for sharing all the details!! You guys inspired me to go for a GT86 myself as my first ringtool. I've done many mods as well like AP racing brakes, KW suspension, diff cooler, turbo kit and so on. I am now thinking about a new differential, do you have any suggestions that might work well?
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, sounds great! Come drive ours to feel out the mods you like most! :)
@fabianbrosi6935
@fabianbrosi6935 3 жыл бұрын
@@mgcharoudin Sounds like a plan. :) I am eagerly waiting for the track days to be announced for next year. I will definitely stay at apex again...
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 3 жыл бұрын
Rented a GT86 in 2013 for a ring track day and can confirm it was a hoot to drive (video on my channel). I'm surprised to hear other ring rental places have phased it out. You can money shift any manual car, so I'm not sure how that counts against the GT86. Planning to do my next track day with Apex because the approach of the business is exactly what I'm looking for.
@jeffreyb.1657
@jeffreyb.1657 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. All three of you guys were fun - Robert, thank you for sharing your insights....wish more people could understand that hp is not everything. Driving has different dimensions and the more I learn, the more it seems that the best drivers are the ones fast in slow cars..... That is where the “art” is.
@EdwardBrennan
@EdwardBrennan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Useful info for maintenance etc. Seems like a solid platform for most to build their skills in. Great content!
@RobertMitchell
@RobertMitchell 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here!!!
@Stigs722
@Stigs722 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a tier 1 viewer
@prowheeldealer1024
@prowheeldealer1024 3 жыл бұрын
Robert, I like your other cars but this is the one I would like you to take me on a lap in. Just because you seems to enjoy it so much.
@stevenvandenbosch6068
@stevenvandenbosch6068 3 жыл бұрын
here and there î
@dmitrykireev3607
@dmitrykireev3607 3 жыл бұрын
How can you prove that it's you, sir?
@99Lezard99
@99Lezard99 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert 👋
@miokujou
@miokujou 3 жыл бұрын
The GT86/BRZ are basically the saying "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow". I would love to own one someday, it would make a good daily/fun car.
@93455Driver
@93455Driver 3 жыл бұрын
So agree on the more power comment. I had no issue with the power or torque, but the torque dip on a canyon road was not very forgiving and made it difficult to keep the momentum.
@golding69
@golding69 2 жыл бұрын
keep it at 5000 to 7000 rpm when you need to get moving and dont let it drop to 4000 rpm, even between shifts. this should help you a bit.
@Joolz1982
@Joolz1982 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear what you have done to your Apex GT86. Not sure if Germany GT86 same as U.K but same engine as first gen e.g no red intake or extra 5 BHP/Gear ratio. You forgot mention facelift has LED headlights and more welds and suspension changes as well as VSC changes and traction you mentioned.
@danielsoto_toronto
@danielsoto_toronto 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Misha for this video, I feel like you guys made it just for me (I asked the oil cooler question). I'm looking forward to booking some laps in the 86 for 2021. Happy Holidays!
@_Archambaud
@_Archambaud 3 жыл бұрын
Heard good this about the balance and progressive nature of this chassis.
@marcnobel3938
@marcnobel3938 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Very interesting details from Misha and George. - Maybe you can call the GT86 "Widow Maker Light". Crazy that you have more durable BMWs than Toyotas in the fleet. The world is upside down. :-)
@stevenvandenbosch6068
@stevenvandenbosch6068 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking at buying a GT86 or my current car back in january 2013. If it was just me and the wife it would have been the toyota, but with a daughter or 6 years old it just wasn't practical as the family car. No regrets though as I thoroughly enjoy the current car aswell and it has been fault free so far, still on the first gearbox and engine too!
@bullwing
@bullwing 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely my favorite car in your fleet. Get the Gen2 and do a comparison. hahaha!
@pavelbarton4653
@pavelbarton4653 3 жыл бұрын
Love this tech content!
@mugen041907
@mugen041907 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video with such great details from the team! Just want to know if you or the team did a break-in for the 4.88 final drive? I just placed a 5.125 final drive in my automatic BRZ and would love to hear your thoughts on it. Thank you again! 😃
@spencerb311
@spencerb311 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been dreaming of a video for the GT 86! Thanks
@mastex5575
@mastex5575 3 жыл бұрын
dear Misha i never put the bell on because i don't like to be notified i just go to my subscription tab on youtube and look for new videos there and i'm still watching all your videos so you don't have to be that bitter about it...
@brentpletinckx6668
@brentpletinckx6668 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a blast to hoon this thing around small technical tracks, especially when you are breathing in the nek of more expensive cars. The only thing that makes it a love and hate story for me , is the shitlist of parts that I already had to replace: full engine rebuild, broken flywheel, coilpacks, loose steering rack, valve recall, and now the oil pressure light is starting to come on when the car has been sitting for a long time. Let’s say you also buy a beginners guide on working on cars otherwise you go bankrupt owning this car for a long time.
@golding69
@golding69 2 жыл бұрын
something is going on with your particular unit. also, don't allow the car to sit too long. what year is yours? after around 2015 most issues are rare.
@brentpletinckx6668
@brentpletinckx6668 2 жыл бұрын
@@golding69 it’s a 2012 model. One of the first productions. Most of the issues are now getting fixed. Just need to upgrade the coilpacks to better ones. If you want to be issue free, buy the later models.
@golding69
@golding69 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentpletinckx6668 👍
@cdsprech
@cdsprech 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to buy an 86! Waiting on the new one to launch so prices settle down and I can finally build one for track-use!
@thatonebeone
@thatonebeone 3 жыл бұрын
wait a good 3 years for the new one to somewhat price go down.. never get new cars thats out due to might have issues and recalls.. happened to my 2013 86 .. plus the recent ones are good now with lots of aftermarket for it...
@_Bryant.R
@_Bryant.R 3 жыл бұрын
I don't need notifications because I look for both videos from the both of you on my lunch break every day. 👌
@fidelcastro9579
@fidelcastro9579 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the content. 👊
@shurasne9202
@shurasne9202 3 жыл бұрын
2020 - two laps driven by me on that rental gt86. It was fun, but yes 3 and 4 gear were raspy.
@ashtorak
@ashtorak 3 жыл бұрын
same. might have done more laps with proper gears
@golding69
@golding69 2 жыл бұрын
there is a trick to this car - quick taps on throttle pedal between shifts (up or down gears) so as to create by ear a helpful rev match to the whole synchronicity between engine, transmission, and driver. helps me a ton to smooth out the gear shifting on my BRZ. i do this instinctually. it's a matter of the car and driver to learn each other's subtleness.
@jcarmolp
@jcarmolp 2 жыл бұрын
Installs solid engine and trans mounts, wonders why an already weak trans keeps breaking lol. Good on you guys for keeping it going though, love my 2020 no matter how much of a sitting duck I am on the straights.
@A_Ride_To
@A_Ride_To 3 жыл бұрын
When I think of light and well balanced driver cars I only think of two cars, the 86 and the MX5. Had a MX5 NC and really would like to give a 86 a try in the future, but for now I’ll probably have to buy a cheap beater. 😅
@bobharper7014
@bobharper7014 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Obvious bias from me since I love my 86. Nuks to Toyota & Subaru for producing an affordable & safe RWD with a manual transmission. Sad that there really few comparable new vehicles on the market now.
@palmermonsen9098
@palmermonsen9098 3 жыл бұрын
Been hoping for something like this, thanks Misha
@ralphipili4693
@ralphipili4693 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to your videos before going to bed is the best bedtime story haha
@simonoakes4381
@simonoakes4381 3 жыл бұрын
Misha, when you talk about the shifter issues, have you considered upgrading the shift springs & solid bushing the shifter assembly? I've running them along with a different slave cylinder and it makes a massive difference to the precision of the shifting and clutch throw.
@pk1342
@pk1342 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to know how much that gt86 weighs. It's great to hear people who get the car and are passionate about it. I've had mine for 5 years and I still love it just as much as I did on day 1. Also, put ITBs on it!!!! Then you get the noise, which I feel is the only thing I would want to improve.
@marcnobel3938
@marcnobel3938 3 жыл бұрын
When Robert wants to keep the NA and wants more power he can do what Tim Schrick did with his Racer. He put an NA 6-Cylinder in it and I think that was quite quick when I remember it correctly. I think for George the change would be a piece of cake.
@ericjiang1045
@ericjiang1045 3 жыл бұрын
Data I gathered is AR1 last about 6 days of 6-8 sessions of 20 minutes each. Not sure how that translate to ring laps. Another tire to try is Nitto NT01. Slightly less grip but more consistent and last even longer.
@RDSAlphard
@RDSAlphard 3 жыл бұрын
I had totally forget to watch this video! Something that I've been anticipated, as much as GR Yaris' videos. I really love the stock spoiler over the M3 GTS (?) spoiler & the other spoiler that you guys put on, it looks so much more subtle compare to the other two; I remember y'all once run front splitter on the GT86? Or I mixed this up with the M4? Anyway... this is one of my favourite GT86 out there, mainly because it's still FA20, and I see Robert enjoy it.
@KosmicKitchen
@KosmicKitchen 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video; could you make an episode discussing the GT86 and the Supra from the fun-factor perspective? I've had a BRZ for 10 years and love it; find myself tempted by the Supra but I am also aware of powerful cars being sometimes boring on public roads.
@TrojanRabbit521
@TrojanRabbit521 Жыл бұрын
I made that mistake. I went from modded Abarth 500 to Alfa Romeo Ti (sport) and either I was bored or going well above speed limits. Just got 2022 BRZ and in heaven now. Love foot to floor without worrying about tickets.
@KosmicKitchen
@KosmicKitchen Жыл бұрын
@@TrojanRabbit521 congratulations; new GR86/BRZ is hardly available in Europe due to small quotas foreseen on our market. I ordered a Yaris GR last year. Due to supply chain perturbations, the waiting time will add up to 18 months. Supras are readily available but are not necessairly a better choice for the reasons we mentioned.
@FairladyS130
@FairladyS130 2 жыл бұрын
Great and very information rich video, I guess that most people when they hire a car there want something more powerful than what they usually drive. 2.4 engine model has 233 hp and, importantly, has the power curve smoothed out so it doesn't have to be kept at high revs to avoid the 2.0's power dip
@d3wd32
@d3wd32 3 жыл бұрын
great content, keep it up guys.
@AmirPomen
@AmirPomen 3 жыл бұрын
Use *Redline shockproof lightweight* oil for the gt86/brz gearbox... It should help reduce crashing synchros to minimum.. and probably gearbox will last longer All other manual gear subie owner can relate to this especially 5mt (and this gt86 6mt were not much different design than the old 5mt and quite different level than the actual impreza sti 6mt)
@jackroman8821
@jackroman8821 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks guys.
@MyGoToUserName
@MyGoToUserName 3 жыл бұрын
I can see why you want to keep it and enjoy it. Being that is is inexpensive and basic you can run it hard and running costs are cheap. Rotors and pads cost nothing compared to the bigger more powerful cars. Gearboxes are cheap if you manage to ruin one. With somebody not banging every gear like you stole it it will last too. The oil cooler debate is a big discussion for the FA20 on the forums. 5w30 is definitely a good move. The forester oil regulator is a happy medium.
@thomasbryce1716
@thomasbryce1716 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Misha, George &Robert.. Awesome Vlog on Toyota GT86 Love the black & gold colors! Mmm.. I LiKE the modifications done to the car!👍🙂👍 230hp hey? gee that's about what I got from my old Ford Esky RS2000 at the back wheels (225hp actually) itseems the GT86 is a car with character & personality that "grows on you" the more time u spend with it? To me this is what owning & driving a car is all about( like often wearing ones favorite pair of Jean's & T-shirt)👍😎👍 Az always LOVE Ya Work💕 Godbless u bro's & hava great weekend 🙂
@janvlacil963
@janvlacil963 3 жыл бұрын
New GT86 will be on sale in EU. Intro around March, deliveries end of the year - all info from local dealer.
@SergeantMoetz
@SergeantMoetz 3 жыл бұрын
It's so baffling to me that most people automatically assume that the GT86 provides a dull driving experience because of it's low power and torque. Yes you need to drive it hard to get the most out of it but when you do you feel more connected to it than most cars you'll be driving in your life.
@boblast5582
@boblast5582 3 жыл бұрын
I can see the car not being driven hard by your average renter... but the Nürburgring being a momentum track, especially on a low power car like the 86, means lots and lots of full throttle. with nothing cooling the oil its just getting hotter and hotter every time you're at WOT. But I guess if you change the oil often its not a huge... in my experience the 86 oil temp stabilizes around 135C on track (not 'ring). Thats a bit on the high side but still safe...
@Clarkyclarke1
@Clarkyclarke1 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Misha 👌🏻
@church493
@church493 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder, with what electronic nannies (or without) usually clients drive apex's GT86? Also what is alignment chosen for the ring, what camber, what toe, at front and rear?
@RexinOridle
@RexinOridle Жыл бұрын
Hey, just to let you know, the cusco diff head is actually worse than the stock one. It has a square profile on the inside, causing massive aeration and heat buildup due to fluid turbulence.
@MrTchou
@MrTchou 3 жыл бұрын
In france the new 2020 regulations with the emissions tax the gt86 bumped it’s price quite a lot (the tax alone is 12500€) i think that’s what killed the car here.
@souldrummer818
@souldrummer818 3 жыл бұрын
Yes great track cars, Mazda RX8 twin brother. Ideal for small tracks here in Australia 🇦🇺
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the GR Yaris will be just as economical and as much fun!
@mauro141995
@mauro141995 3 жыл бұрын
is there any video of misha driving this car in the nurburgring? I would like to see this car in action.
@MoepMoep-Movies
@MoepMoep-Movies 3 жыл бұрын
Now i feel guilty. I´m guilty not having taken the GT86 out more often in 2020! But i can explain: It´s covids fault! Hopefully next year I will show more love for the GT 86 by doing more laps with my favourite tracktool, ever! I´m really glad it´s going to stay in the APEX fleet! And don´t overpower it, please! If neccessary put on a tiny compressor to keep the natural aspirated character. Next Gen GT86/BRZ is tempting, too!
@simopasso
@simopasso 3 жыл бұрын
i'd like to give it a shot if i'll ever have the chance, i own a '18 BRZ which is completely stock and i'd like to see the difference with the mods you've installed!
@Catbert814
@Catbert814 3 жыл бұрын
Initially the GT86 was released in the US market as the Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ. When the Scion brand was discontinued in 2017 Toyota began selling the car with a Toyota GT86 badge. Scion was a failed marketing experiment in the US. It was meant to be Toyota's young customer tuner brand but most people who purchased Scions were actually older people looking for less expensive cars. I was a "Toyota Guy" in high school when Scion was introduced and none of those cars appealed to me. I wanted a MKIV Supra or SW20 MR2. Not a 1.5L 100hp car shaped like a box
@rodneyyy95
@rodneyyy95 3 жыл бұрын
When the GT86 first came out I worked at a Toyota dealership, we had one as a demo car. When I drove it, I wasn't impressed, felt like it was just a bit underpowered. Do you think it feels better now with the remap and shorter diff ratio? Like not underpowered anymore? (Didn't really know how to ask it in English properly, hope you understand what I am trying to ask.
@mgcharoudin
@mgcharoudin 3 жыл бұрын
For the Ring it's perfect. For other tracks it's probably still is meh.
@99Lezard99
@99Lezard99 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what lots of people felt with it. This car shows its true face at the limit. Most people wont reach that limit on the street id say.
@thatonebeone
@thatonebeone 3 жыл бұрын
@@99Lezard99 yup car needs to be at a circuit track to see what its really all about... streets you cant be doing full limits
@MacroEnabled
@MacroEnabled 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbateman7122 Would you also say a Mazda Miata is not fun at low speeds?
@MacroEnabled
@MacroEnabled 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbateman7122 Oh! Please install a higher flow air filter, catless headers, and a good tune if you can. Makes the car way way torquier and lively at low RPM
@indibisible
@indibisible 3 жыл бұрын
Why during a wet laps would wet conditions/rain trigger all the lights on the dash to turn on and turn off and disable the assistance? The upgrading of the brakes? also are they 17x8 17x9? what offset? alignment specs and why? What are spherical/solid bushings maintenance life vs oem vs aftermarket rubber bushings? pros/cons of going all spherical.- Thanks
@protrackwheels3546
@protrackwheels3546 3 жыл бұрын
9.0x18 ET38, fit plug and play. Why? Because the 235/40-17 fit perfect 9inch and also the car. Important in Germany: TÜV approved
@indibisible
@indibisible 3 жыл бұрын
I was curious about the alignment and settings to see how the ring setup compares to STX class in US SCCA autoX. See this thread below. www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134039 So your are running 9.0X18 ET38 wheel on a 17' tires? is that even possible? Also how did you arrive at 235 vs say 245 or 255 width tires?
@ratanc1807
@ratanc1807 2 жыл бұрын
This is an underpowered car, but people keep crashing it... Seriously, I've got a GT86, and this is the perfect car for learning how to drive on track, it is literally a joy.
@winorbin
@winorbin 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks Misha 👍
@rodrigopm13
@rodrigopm13 3 жыл бұрын
Goooood morning Misha !!!!
@routmor
@routmor 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to build a gt-86 just like yours, do I go to MR or should I make my own spec for Latin-American tracks? I'm from Guatemala, love the videos
@michaelleigh2446
@michaelleigh2446 3 жыл бұрын
That is why Apex need more RHD, I use a manual everyday, so know how to shift, but it is oddly different in a LHD, so I go to Dales or smoking Rays for rentals. maybe Apex don't have many UK customers.
@CarToneHK
@CarToneHK 3 жыл бұрын
I actually came over to drive the GT86, but it's just after an engine rebuild and then it's out for the day :( Can't wait to be able to come back for it, cause I only drove the short bit from apex to track parking....
@rainerblessing923
@rainerblessing923 3 жыл бұрын
Does the car not also have a different clutch and flywheel? I own a BRZ had and the car had engine failure and checked what other cars I could buy but quickly decided to get the engine rebuild. I am still in love with the car after five years :)
@jasondoulkeridis6202
@jasondoulkeridis6202 3 жыл бұрын
Love the colour on this car! Can I ask what width and offset are the wheels?
@saifmansour455
@saifmansour455 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! as these tires aren't available at my country, what do you think of the Nankang NS-2R? a couple of track days per year
@alainveenman6571
@alainveenman6571 3 жыл бұрын
It shines very well
@simonhaycocks
@simonhaycocks 3 жыл бұрын
One of these is the only thing that would entice me away from old BMW's that i love to drive. My problem now is i've become addicted to the torque my mapped 330d pushes out so the lack of it in the GT86 might be disappointing. I really do need to go drive one, maybe this one next year when i visit the 'ring 🤔
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