[OUTDATED V4] Ulterior Motives '85 FULLY REMASTERED AND EXTENDED

Here it is!! Our absolute final version (no it's not final, V5 exists) of The Definitive Remaster of Ulterior Motives that tries to fix every complaint we've got to this point on V3 and
V3.1. We couldn't do much to reverb, we honestly don't know what causes that much of it because it was not added manually to the instruments in FL Studio, so this will have to do, please understand that... Also, listen to the tracks like "Think I'm Gonna Cry" and see how damn much reverb there is on that song. It's certainly possible and is probably the case that UM had that much reverb. You have to understand how bad the quality of the original actually is...
We've also noticed the, quote unquote, "leaked" instrumental of the official Ulterior Motives remaster, and we isolated the bass from it and tried restoring it a little. The results are fabulous in my opinion. Soooometimes it tends to get a little low quality, but that's about it, the rest is pure authentic bass straight from 1985.
Here's the whole list of fixed complaints and changes from V3.1 to V4.
COMPLAINTS:
"Bad mixing": it appears you all mean just the reverb, lol, sometimes the bass... - TRIED TO FIX ➗
Quiet (and a little muffled) vocals: vocals have been enhanced a bit by making it louder and a tiny bit sharper than last time - FIXED ✔
Missing 2 claps at • [OUTDATED V4] Ulterior... after the 2 orchestra hits: up until V3.1, our remaster lacked the 2 claps after the 2 orchestra hits at the end of the solo break, thankfully it has been fixed due to someone pointing that out - FIXED ✔
It not sounding like the 80s mixing (also sort of tied to bad mixing) - TRIED TO FIX ➗
Too much reverb *on vocals*: some complained just about the vocals being too echoey, we honestly didn't really wanna try making it have less reverb because it always sounds too artificial, it already does a little, we don't want to make it worse now... We ourselves think it sounds just right, especially compared to other songs from the lost album, sorry if you feel otherwise - NOT FIXED ❌
SIDE FIXES THAT WEREN'T COMPLAINED ABOUT:
Richer snare sound thanks to Macintozh's instrumental multitrack ✔
Chorus claps are now louder ✔
Bass now has some variants that Mac's bass did not have, that is done thanks to the official release bass, but before the official instrumental came out we were gonna manually make the variants on Mac's bass, but thank God we did not because it always kept sounding somewhat off... ✔
Removed loud noise on electric guitar before the 2nd verse ✔
Made the guitar a little more varianted right after the 1st chorus ends, appearing on the little break before verse 2 to make it more accurate to the actual 1985 instrumental ✔
That's all that has been changed in V4, unless I forgot something then sorry lolololol!
CREDITS
INSTRUMENTAL: Funk & electric guitars, synth, 3rd orchestra hit and snare sound by ‪@macintozh1986‬ with addition of original bass, drums and electric guitars
1ST ORCHESTRA HIT RIP: ‪@Mesadly‬
VOCAL RESTORATION: u/WarpyWarpington with little cleaning by me, but it sounds so DAMN GOOD thanks to ‪@冗‬
MIXING: Me and ‪@冗‬
EXTENDING: Me
MACINTOZH'S ELECTRIC GUITAR CLEANING (DENOISING): ‪@denoumusicarchive‬
ORIGINAL SONG BY: ‪@christophersaintmusic‬ and Philip Adrian Booth, 1985
Made with huge dedication to them and to all of the UM fans ❤

[@Ry5PPlus]

NEW V5 JUST DROPPED! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnTMXneugalogrs Sorry that it had to be reuploaded. I wanted to apply a little hotfix for the bass and vocals. You can repost your comments that you left on the previous upload if you remember them. Enjoy! While this is certainly my final full cut (9/16: this aged badly), you can comment down below your fun ways of changing this remaster, or some remaining complaints that you would like fixed, and I will try to fix them and put them in this pinned comment just for you. Please do not tell me to make it have less reverb though, I've done the maximum I can on this matter. PLEASE CREDIT NOT JUST ME BUT IDEALLY EVERYONE CREDITED IN THIS VIDEO. ESPECIALLY MACINTOZH FOR MOST OF THE INSTRUMENTAL AND SNODAY FOR MAKING THIS SOUND ACTUALLY GOOD. ALSO PLEASE KINDLY DON'T USE THIS IN JUST SOME LYRICS EDITS THAT DRAIN THE POPULARITY OF THIS VIDEO. ME AND SNODAY PUT A LOT EFFORTS IN THIS FOR A REASON, WE WANT THIS TO BLOW UP, NOT SOME 2014 INTRO LOOKING EDIT... Uncompressed .wav file: drive.google.com/file/d/1J7QAitRImAc1itB5ZQkKUcwcLElHWMRw/view?usp=sharing Uncompressed instrumental: drive.google.com/file/d/1sNZt523GRh1GZrpX7C4hsi_uPruWrf4t/view?usp=sharing REQUESTS: ⏭ Short Cut (Original AoP Length): drive.google.com/file/d/1JTSXr4l0CRMCFAXsXIAsf4L-MY3ISebT/view?usp=sharing 📻📼Radio/Poor Cassette Quality: drive.google.com/file/d/1y1wzfY1mJDlZNuA_Nge8NpdVpM8XByhs/view?usp=sharing

[@The.Frozen.Forest]

can u make a version that has a fade out at the end ? and maybe make the ending chorus not so long. 🙏

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@The.Frozen.ForestI thought the extended part was a big improvement... But sure thing! I can do it but in a few hours because in my time zone it's 12 AM rn I have to go to sleep!

[@The.Frozen.Forest]

@@Ry5PPlus I appreciate it ✌️✌️ and could u add something like what macintosh uses for the fade out at the end?

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@The.Frozen.Forest sure!

[@rzayon]

@@Ry5PPlus it may be weird to ask this but can you do a version that have the original music quality? like in the snippet for exemple

[@marshmallowdub]

There's some missing claps at.... oh wait, they're there! Nice work on this one, it sounds epic

[@Ry5PPlus]

yup!!

[@aspenx-qc3rm]

YESSSSSS I CAN PLAY THIS TO MY MOM WITHOUT ANY MOANING NOISES AT ALL

[@aspenx-qc3rm]

wild thing to say out of context

[@rebelliccanadianpilot6513]

nah fr i was listening to it w/o headphones and they looked at me weird every time they passed my room 😭

[@dlsgrowyt2208]

​@@rebelliccanadianpilot6513they recognised it???

[@NadorFootage]

@@dlsgrowyt2208probably not that the song was from a…yk….but they probably heard the Moans if the commenter was listening to the og version

[@MarleyAnthonyMusic]

This is the best restoration of the original. It's magical and even though it culminated only a few months ago, searching for this song will always be a wonderful memory.

[@Clocknoise]

The high frequencies in the vocals are a little bit odd, but it's one of the best I've heard, very good job man. keep it up

[@DBZdude95]

Lowering the highs a little and adding some more reverb I reckon could do it but best I've heard so far

[@jayv7006]

Whose is better or just as good?

[@Clocknoise]

​@@jayv7006 Mesadly one, but he's using part of that version in this one, my only complaint with Mesadly's is vocals volume and overall volume

[@JamesR624]

@@DBZdude95 I love how this video is the umpteenth "super final high quality!" version and it has all the same problems and mistakes as all the others it supposedly is better than. On KZbin, EVERYONE thinks THEY'RE original as they ALL do the exact same thing.

[@Clocknoise]

​@@JamesR624that's right mate, unfortunately for us, but they'll keep improving, at least I hope they will

[@Brandotistic]

finally when he says "the truth" in "when will you realize the truth" it doesn't sound out of place, great work to everyone involved! genuinely the best one i've heard so far!

[@jackmoran2736]

i need this on spotify so bad

[@user-ly1ko6be9t]

Actully this is pretty nice for all of the absurd remasters you and a bunch of other people pump out

[@冗]

EKT community try not to use macintozh instrumental and terrible AI vocals challenge ( NO EFFORT ) ( 1000% IMPOSSIBLE )

[@crafto6881]

This is what they wanted to do with the remake. I know they tried, but they should've just held a fan contest like Metro and Beomhan

[@Meqa]

I love the visuals so much

[@Ry5PPlus]

me too!!

[@aneekes.]

Am I the only one who thinks that it sounds better than recent studio remaster?

[@PLAYER-MOST-WANTED]

you tripping

[@aneekes.]

@@PLAYER-MOST-WANTED Nuh, I’ve finally seen lots of similar comments. Mostly people mention about voice in the remaster.

[@retroboot2837]

no bro you're not alone

[@mrowlsss]

I like the studio remaster, it's just the ending is way too repetitive

[@TurningAway]

Fire fire shit got me dancing in my room at 2 am

[@bri3884]

YAYAYAYAYA. IM SO HAPPY, THANK YOU Ry5++ AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE CREDITS 🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@冗]

You’re welcome

[@Null_01010]

THIS IS THE BEST REMASTER!!! Thank you so much

[@suspense_comix3237]

This remaster gave me chills, man! Gave me nostalgia for the 80’s even though I was (obviously) not born in the 80’s, lol Thank you

[@jujutrading]

By far the best out there

[@MrStarlightt]

best remaster of the 85 version atm, good job!!

[@ZetaReticuli1.]

You did an awesome job. Much better than a few other weird AI filtered remasters on YT with bad sync

[@冗]

the sync was fixed by me because it pissed me off the first time I heard it =)

[@michaelsdream2522]

I need this on spotify asap its perfectttttttt I need to play this in my 90s civic on full volume

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@michaelsdream2522 I don't think I could ever do that, but as an alternative you can download the wav file from my pinned comment and put this as a local file on Spotify.

[@mintybudgie]

​@@Ry5PPlusor burn it to a cd

[@RainStorm2]

i was here from the upload before the reupload

[@crystal-hw9zy]

im gonna cry man i've been waiting for this😭😭😭

[@VadimShelest942]

Это лучший ремастер Ulterior motives, даже официальному ремастеру не хватает энергичности, здесь же всё на высшем уровне.

[@Epicman594]

damn this slaps hard without the static

[@aneekes.]

I wonder if we ever find original tape. It must be somewhere there. It’s the first time the song sounds this cool. Indeed a “Wham!“-like unreleased work.

[@SadieBig]

It’s probably long gone, but I’m still in shock that this song comes from a porn video .

[@aneekes.]

@@SadieBig my guess is a guy was watching 80s adult movies and accidentally found that he really likes the song playing in one of the scenes but couldn’t realize himself what was it so he recorded and uploaded on KZbin hoping if anybody knows that. But for a some reason he didn’t want to mention where song came from.

[@starkilla55]

the official remake just doesn't do the vocals right tbh, the singer just didn't sing it right.

[@AIanRoblox]

Not trying to be rude but… Chris is in his 60s now and he sang the original Ulterior Motives when he was still young. Do you really think he would still have the same exact singing capabilities now like he did in the 80’s?

[@ChaoticAntic]

It’s almost like the original was recorded over 40 years ago and even Christopher admitted that he would have to strain his voice to sing that high again but he tried and it’s appreciated. But go off ig

[@SimonRileyyy]

Dumbest comment i read all day

[@victoria_153]

Aquí un comentario en español, me gusta mucho esta remasterización, has hecho un buen trabajo ya que no paro de escucharla 💖💫

[@User-24-WZS]

Absolutely best

[@dlsgrowyt2208]

still the best remaster.

[@Muck-qy2oo]

Everybody wants to be the remaster master! 😁

[@Soooodapack]

the visuals are so yummy omg

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@Soooodapack thank you!!!! me made them :D

[@charlesnathan3557]

YAYYY V4 IS HERE

[@DeusVult838]

Sounds really nice! But are those high frequencies/notes at around 0:14 supposed to be in the original song?

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@DeusVult838 I was trying to replicate the sound the original song had, it's definitely not the best and accurate at all :/

[@DeusVult838]

@@Ry5PPlus It's still probably one of the best ones I have heard though!

[@DeusVult838]

@@Ry5PPlus oh and by the way, I really like the visuals! They look really nice

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@DeusVult838 thanks!!

[@valentin5722]

Sounds really cool!!

[@rzayon]

3:21 is it me or it's weird when it says the "(shows it)" part?

[@Ry5PPlus]

it's always been like that for these remasters, to me it sounds good!

[@rzayon]

​@@Ry5PPlus really ? I feel like it's saying something like "she dot" or "she zot" (which don't mean anything yeah 🤡) but not shows it xd

[@5R1YU7H4]

​@@rzayonlol for some reason I hear the "shows it" backing vocal as "yeah"

[@TheAllianceDc2_official]

This is still the 1986 version not 1985

[@CyberAnarchist2077]

I just noticed that guitar is incorrect. If you will listen to the tape rip, on 0:16 it should sound roughly similar to 2:16 and on 0:19 it should go "higher".

[@ITAC85]

I've got several criticisms for this remaster. 1. Please lower the limiter / compressor on the mix. It's quite extreme. 2. Please remove the tape / cassette filter applied to the drum track. It's a little distracting and adds a bit of vibrato to it. 3. Switch the drum track to use the Linn 9000, as that's THE correct drum sound used for all percussion tracks in Ulterior Motives. 4. At 2:05, the funk guitar is slightly out of time. You should also pitch it up by a few cents to match the tuning of the original '86 version. 5. Why is the vocal take at 2:35 reused? It's not normally like this in the original mix. 6. What's with the weird AI vocals? The high frequencies sound off. 7. Maybe a little less reverb? 8. The bass track is very... bassy. It's a little excessive imo. Not as bad as the official remaster but still. 9. Replace the orchestra hit at 2:21 with the one at 0:04

[@冗]

How do you know there’s a cassette filter on the drums. Sir? also thanks for the drum machine name mwa

[@NightmaresStuff]

Ty for this, I hope they make another version that's even better than this one! We must get it to perfection!! :D

[@冗]

@@NightmaresStuff maybe, but I’ve been working on my own separate remaster for now that only uses the original VHS tracks

[@冗]

@@NightmaresStuff if you think I’m some random btw i helped put a lot of work to make ry5++’s remaster better

[@Florupi]

i love this

[@spannmona]

This is such an amazing remaster.

[@冗]

Thank you

[@Sillycat8900]

listening to this while making game art with ibispaint filters

[@catacat8811]

Thank you king/queen

[@Ornothz]

this is a certified banger

[@mintybudgie]

now this is fire

[@BlueStarEdits2021]

Only complaints One, at 0:12 I don’t think those are in the original And two, the original uses a LinnDrum LM2, and not the one the new one uses. Also, I feel like the orchestra hits are too lower pitched. Also the original uses backup vocals that go “ulterior ior ior motives” and I never hear a remaster with those. Otherwise, It sounds amazing!!!

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@BlueStarEdits2021 the drums that were used are the true ones from 1985, since the official remake uses the master tape for these

[@KezKaz]

Where did you get the maracas sound from? I’m trying to find one at 124bpm so it sounds good

[@Ry5PPlus]

I just pretty much ripped the drums from the official release and then cut the sounds out so I can manipulate them as the song goes on

[@KezKaz]

@@Ry5PPlus how did you rip the drums?

[@Ry5PPlus]

​@@KezKazI just clipped it from the official release

[@ITAC85]

Hey! Just so you know -- all the drum sounds in Ulterior Motives are from the Linn 9000 drum machine. This includes the kick, snare, claps, hihats, crash cymbal, and cabasa. They're all from the Linn 9000.

[@KezKaz]

@@ITAC85 thank you!!

[@hgt110]

Perfect

[@pardonless]

What's the background picture?

[@Ry5PPlus]

whoa finally someone asks! it's actually a picture taken by ​‌‌‌​‌‌​​​‌‌​​‌‌​‌​​​‌‌​​‌​​‌‌‌‌​‌​​​‌​​​‌​​​​​‌‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​‌‌​‌​‌‌‌‌‌​‌​‌​​‌​‌​​‌‌‌‌‌​‌​​​​‌‌​​​​‌‌‌‌​​‌‌​‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌​‌‌​​​​‌​‌​‌​​‌‌​‌​‌​​​‌‌‌​​‌​​​​​‌‌​‌‌​‌​‌‌​​​‌‌​​​‌‌‌​‌‌​‌​​​snoday of coke bottles and video cassettes and i photoshopped it to have the ekt boombox in the back, i think it came out pretty cool even tho you can barely see it thru the video!

[@pardonless]

@@Ry5PPlus yep, the vibe is great! 2024 is a miracle for LV community! EKT, Cancion de Alicia, Beatboy etc. Got into that several days ago and love these media. They sound so cool

[@Quajutsu74]

Yes

[@ChilledGrill24]

Somehow i find this version better than v5-

[@ALONe-p3s]

Nice

[@ivangol1023]

Instrumental part sounds like Promises, promises.. 😂

[@wenshengandmore9881]

nice

[@maya-di8nc]

Perf

[@LostwaveHiddenGems]

Talking about remastering. Can you remaster a pretty unknown lostwave for me? I recently posted it on my channel and its one of my favourites.

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@LostwaveHiddenGems you have many lostwave songs on your channel you have to be more precise

[@LostwaveHiddenGems]

@@Ry5PPlus my newest one. "ugly girl". ive tried before but all of my remasters sound terrible.

[@Sam-xu8si]

This very good. The chorus mixing feels off though somehow. Like the synths that make the distinctive sound are too far back. 8/10 based on having only a vhs version of the original to go off on.

[@Ry5PPlus]

Honestly I don't hear the same thing you do, but oh well!

[@Pixelat5]

Blud actually watches angles of passion each time to “check”

[@冗]

@@Pixelat5never say “blud” again

[@Pixelat5]

@@冗 blud

[@Sam-xu8si]

​@Ry5Plus I don't think it's something you're able to fix tbh without having a better quality reference.

[@patr1ck28]

Will you make a new version using the new tape rip at some point? Fantastic remaster btw

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@patr1ck28 honestly I got a little fed up with ekt lately and am more into making my own music now but maybe one day I'll motivate myself to do the V5. question is won't there be any better remaster already

[@patr1ck28]

That's completely understandable, good luck with your goals!

[@buddiegaming9355]

Neat

[@ILovechicken822]

I was 1000th like

[@BrandyEvansVIsBackAgain]

Were the shakers there in the og?

[@Nickmakesmusickinda]

stupid thing for me to add but there's two missing claps at 0:11. Still, very good remaster!

[@BrandyEvansVIsBackAgain]

Attempt #2 is the closest to the og

[@BrandyEvansVIsBackAgain]

I don't remember writing this

[@GeflyLW]

vocals could use some more mixing

[@softfishitrashi5176]

From where do have that extra minute?

[@Ry5PPlus]

I remade it - I basically looped the instrumental and then modified the vocals a little to fit with the official release.

[@softfishitrashi5176]

@@Ry5PPlus oh, i understand

[@TOPGWAFDude01]

YAAY! WOO HOO

[@marvimraymundocartagena1731]

2:01 there is a moan

[@Ry5PPlus]

I think that's a part of the vocals though

[@marvimraymundocartagena1731]

@@Ry5PPlus its not

[@ExxistenceTV]

​@@marvimraymundocartagena1731 it is. The new remaster created by the booth brothers also have it.

[@marvimraymundocartagena1731]

@@ExxistenceTV Nvm yes it is a vocal

[@miojo157._.]

its chris, the woman's voice is noticeably different you can tell what are moans and what isnt

[@ambientwishwalker8908]

Pretty sure it's 'Counting all your sheep in the sky' not 'in disguise'

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@ambientwishwalker8908 no it's the real lyrics confirmed by the Booth brothers and their original lyric writings

[@eltavon]

eh, you could’ve done better. instrumental doesn’t change in needed parts, vocals repeating to fill removed parts, i’d say this is incomplete.

[@MelvinWilson-k8v]

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[@CyberAnarchist2077]

You said 3.1 was the last

[@Ry5PPlus]

😭

[@CyberAnarchist2077]

@@Ry5PPlus basses are too loud in this one

[@Ry5PPlus]

​@@CyberAnarchist2077it was meant to sound just like the AoP version..... But I can make a version with it quieter!

[@Mesadly]

The instrumental is inaccurate but slaps

[@Ry5PPlus]

bass and drums are definitely right since they're straight up from 1985

[@Mesadly]

Also nice ending.

[@Ry5PPlus]

for the rest I just mixed Mac's instrumental with the official release one a little :/

[@Ry5PPlus]

​@@Mesadlythank you!!

[@Mesadly]

@@Ry5PPlus Cool. It sounds amazing. Can you send the drums you used? I know it's the official but yours are the right pace. I have so many ideas but I cant because of speed issues.

[@moneecreates]

Am I the only thinks he's voice also sounded a bit like this in the recent remastered release? It has that little spongeboby-esque tone in his voice which I do think does for the song now that I realized it. At first, honestly I didn't liked it. Although ofc I understand not everyone is gonna sound the same after 6 decades, he's in his 60s. But now that I realized it, his voice does actually sounds decent in the final version.

[@BrandyEvansVIsBackAgain]

Lord God 1:49

[@BrandyEvansVIsBackAgain]

this needs the right orchestra hits2:21

[@EmeKu01]

The hits are pretty much accurate 😅

[@yutaka2329]

A

[@VenityGT]

this is wayyy too bassy, it sounds so loud on my headphones

[@Ry5PPlus]

I was trying to make it sound as close to the actual original, to how it was on Angels of Passion

[@冗]

Because your headphones are all bass, and those are terrible.

[@SeveryBoy]

Tried to make it "better". It turned out to be more lame than the previous issue. No offense, pal🎃

[@Vibingshuzkanothing]

What about @yourboydonald ?

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@Vibingshuzkanothing??

[@Regularmilk]

Yo Ik u we’re mad at me for using your version in my lyric video. But do u have discord I wanna talk and maybe work.

[@Regularmilk]

Yo Ik u we’re mad at me for using your version in my lyric video. But do u have discord I wanna talk and maybe work.

[@Ry5PPlus]

@@Regularmilk what do you mean work