Super-stock for a super value! | Game Face Trion REVIEW

[@outofdarts]

What do you think about these recent springer releases. Whether you're a beginner in the hobby or someone who wants a reliable and competitive primary, this is certainly one blaster to check out!

[@valkorsimpson4525]

Seems like a solid middle ground between the Nexus pro/stryker and the Worker Harrier price-wise

[@CAPTTIGHT230]

I love the design of the trion, but I think I'd prefer a lynx for the bullpup accuracy portion.

[@Beegrene]

@@valkorsimpson4525 I've already got a Harrier, so I'll skip this one, but it does seem like a great budget option.

[@blasterface22]

Wow, very complimentary review, thanks Luke. If it helps you to make a mag release extension we left a little hole in the part which is sized for self tapping screws to help sleeve the part with a 3D print instead of having to open it up and replace the entire piece. Also, FYI the rollers on the priming mechanism are the same size as 3mm ID x 10mm OD x 4mm wide ball bearings. They're a nice little upgrade to the priming. Can't wait to see your stock / pistol grip.

[@Tacodave1679]

Be nice if it fired when you pull the trigger. You just chose that bag though and gave it a great review. Either Gameface lied to you or you lied to us.

[@JoltKing627]

When I first saw the trion, I didn't think I needed one. I already have a nice retalicon, and two nexuses. But then I was given a trion... and I gotta say, I'm a believer. I absolutely love the thing, it just feels so much nicer than the nexus. Highly recommend it.

[@a_guyontheinternet]

Especially given that it's $80 which beats most others (those that are quality) price points.

[@Castdeath]

Controversially, I’m very happy they put a thumb hole stock, very helpful for sturdiness with upgrades.

[@Semicolon7645]

I believe two of the players on the Rochester teams, that won the DZPT, were interning at GameFace. So they had people in the hobby giving great feedback about the Trion's design.

[@ClintsReptiles]

I recently picked up a Trion, and it is INCREDIBLE! It makes my Nexus Pro feel archaic. The build quality is just so good and the operation is smooth and reliable. I'll probably pick up a second one soon.

[@cuddlecobraaaaa5113]

Never would of guessed you’re a nerd fan😂😂😂

[@tactofu]

Clint!! I didn't expect to see you here! 😂

[@SoilentGr33n]

I'll take that Nexus pro off your hands lol. Can't find one anywhere

[@botsnblasters]

I really loved the Trion and still do. The SciFi look is a breath of fresh air. I did quite a bit of trigger issues due to slamfire mechanism. I talked about them all in my review and I have mixed views of GameFace as a Company now but I absolutely have mad respect for Chris who reached out to me personally to help address some issues.

[@HalfDeadHero]

The build quality is excellent and the fact that you can change the fps so quickly is awesome.

[@TheSuperSushiMaster]

Liam Mattingly helped make this amazing blaster. May his work leave a legacy in this hobby.

[@AegisEvoXI]

Just bought a Herja kit and some m-loc to fix it to the side of my Trion as well as your SCAR attachment. Distance, accuracy, and an "oh sh*t" button.

[@panda51829able]

Love my Trion. Acceptably sleek ergonomics and quality 👍

[@GresSimJa]

Amazing blaster for anyone who doesn't own a "general-purpose primary springer" yet. Were you thinking of buying a Nexus? Attempt to save up and buy a Trion, you won't regret it.

[@AudieS23]

The Trion can’t go down to a consistent 125-130 fps like the Nexus Pro/Stryker can.

[@Korviliath]

I feel like the "just get a nexus" meme is finally over.

[@Adanimo_nRg]

A well-made blaster and one worth investing into. It has some of the best and most consistent performance while providing the fun factor you would expect from a quality blaster! 100% worth getting!! Great review.

[@Thesnakerox]

I am TOTALLY considering investing in this one! So much cheaper than the Worker Harrier, and while I do love my Stryker, the dedicated half length compatibility and skinny pusher look like a lot of fun.

[@seraphimcaduto]

I have both myself and find myself picking up the Trion more and more.

[@OwlskiTV]

@@seraphimcaduto Genuinely curious; Any reason you gravitate towards to the Trion over the Harrier?

[@romanmoreno-hines5494]

I can’t be the only one who saw the qwk edge in the background

[@m00k61]

Prime and trigger pull are butter.

[@blaster-time]

The Trion is a great blaster! Happy we can have these in Europe too.

[@Castdeath]

I’m glad they put a thumb hole to be honest, the buffer tube with the nexus tends to be not super rigid with spring upgrades and having that force spread helps.

[@LilySav1]

The Trion is definitely a nice blaster……it was my go to until I got my hands on the Harrier. Both have their own purposes and depends on what you like design wise more. Just can’t beat the whole feel of the Harrier and that threaded barrel and air seal is just beautiful! Also there can never be enough springers on the market 😂 I’m a springer fanboy though and love seeing so much variety and innovation within this space. Awesome review as always by the way

[@someidiotwithanerfgun]

I got one today from Princess Auto, I put in the spacers and it stopped working altogether, so I tried taking the spring out again and it nearly killed me

[@AndiAbadi33]

got one on preorder from GameFace... Note that buying this from where I am is just hard and costly! hahaha BUT IT WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY! love the crisp prime sound, love the accuracy, love the scalability! Definitely a great new contender to an already progressive hobby space 👍

[@snowfoxcosplays]

This is actually a very awesome sci-gif blaster. I’d love to have it at some point.

[@rattlelarry2186]

Davis Nerf Club represent! Love the jersey!

[@koenkooiman1490]

Would love to see more AEB's like the Wasp 76 in the hobby. Got two of those now, not a manual springer fan anymore because of it, else i definitely would have loved a Trion.

[@chaikaomoua1169]

I like the retaliator style blasters, modded many own a Ceda, Nexus and the Max Stryker, now I want the trion just to try it on.

[@MrRimant]

Hey guys. Great review, love mine also. Have you guys been able to find any springs that could lower performance down to closer to 100 to 110 fps? For games like hvz.

[@uncontrollablefire]

I personally want to trick this out similar to the way that coop did minus the qd mounts, but, in order to achieve that, I need to spend over $300 CAD ($100 of that is just mags) but I think that it's worth the investment, and, I'm looking very forward to eventually being able to get it

[@kampferjam8899]

Excited for the pistol they'll make.

[@bretts1646]

I'm loving my Trion, and have definitely been on the hunt for a grip and stock that looks a little more futuristic like the base blaster as opposed the the real-steel options a lot of other folks are using. Please post an update after you design yours, I'm super interested to see what people do with the platform in the next few months.

[@blasterface22]

We should have a 2.0 version of our website up soon and we'll have a section for free 3D printable downloads. One of them is a pistol grip which stores the spacers inside.

[@bretts1646]

@@blasterface22 sounds dope, I'll keep an eye out!

[@TheSwedishChef06]

@@blasterface22 Awesome! Love to see companies interacting with their audience and taking community suggestions!

[@paulmorehouse9455]

Wow - inspiring !! Respect to DartZone for that low price though!! I really want the HARRIER but that price makes it unlikely - this makes it so I could consider a new blaster sooner AWESOME CONTENT

[@bryanknapp6897]

One idea why the spring spacers may not have a storage area in the blaster is so that people can’t change their velocity on the fly during a match.

[@brianpfouts2326]

I have one of these and I love it right out of the box its the best springer I've got so far I think the only thing out there that is better but at a huge price difference is the harrier which I plan on buying from u guys when I have the extra coin to spend. That being said if u don't already have a high power springer and are considering one there is no reason not to buy a trion its worth every penny u spend on it

[@ForRealConfused]

Been waiting for this video!!!

[@Twinkie_Operator]

I put my spacers inside of my worker stubby forgrip. I used a Nerf elite dart to keep them from rattling and it works perfect.

[@axylsorax]

Wow, five stars huh? Heard this blaster is good, but I didn’t know it was THAT good!

[@Tacodave1679]

It's not it has serious firing issues

[@axylsorax]

@@Tacodave1679 Serious firing issues that can be fixed. I own one and I have firing issues as well. I fixed mine.

[@Burasta]

Now I need to decide if I get this or the Worker Harrier.

[@bobbirdsong6825]

The intro song is reminding me of those adobe/artgrid/sound library ads

[@noxious_nights]

This thing feels like an absolute steal for $80!

[@eagelcat]

Zebras can be just as stubborn as mules storage stocks are cool ✌️😁

[@Andygriff1975]

Hence forth Chevrons will now be known as Arrow Hearts!

[@liamhamelly2489]

You and coop need to do a livestream together

[@LilySav1]

I definitely agree with this comment

[@jackboulter4901]

Can't wait to get mine and customise it.

[@tyler9463]

I found that the trigger spring is not strong enough for the double spacers and the catch fails. Note this happened after I removed the slam fire, not sure if it'll do that stock

[@larsen8059]

Id be all in if it wasn't short dart only, still a serious steal though.....

[@johngenova7855]

Will your low power spring for the nexus work in this blaster?

[@adriansue8955]

Alternate Grip + Stock Options? I know its compatible with AR-15 and Airsoft parts but it would be Nice if Gameface themselves released non-thumbhole grip+stock variations. -mainly because using an AR-15 grip requires threading a 1/4" Bolt into PLASTIC, and I don't feel comfortable about that long term -if the Trion had used a metal captive nut for this area I'd feel better about it, but as is I'd rather just see a dedicated grip from GF themselves using clamshell construction

[@blasterface22]

We’ll have 3D printed part downloads on the website soon. I’ve been running a magpul MOE grip on my personal Trion for almost a year now, no issues. We went thumb hole to try to get the silhouette away from a “real firearm” out of the box at least.

[@adriansue8955]

@@blasterface22 I've also noted, that when bolting an AR grip to the Trion, since the bolt hole is actually attached to the right side of the shell only; tightening the bolt will cause the two halves of the shell to missalign from uneven pressure. With the grip then slightly canting to one side. -another factor in why I'd like to see Trion-specific clamshell type grip replacements. Though I am skeptical that 3d printing can handle the thin yet strong walled parts need for a clamshell. This kind of thing needs injection molding.

[@danielalbertsen1110]

It easily is better than the dart zone springers, I have one it makes my dart zone springers feel cheap.

[@tieganjordan702]

could you do a video on the Swift compaired to the Harrier.

[@rokushou]

There's no reason to get a Swift other than it possibly being cheaper or if you really like the look. Harrier is pretty much a direct upgrade.

[@rokushou]

I definitely don't need any more 200 FPS springers, have too many already. If it can be modded to consistently hit 250 (with scar and dart pool darts) I might consider it, but the Harrier's probably the better option at that point.

[@ironjester2273]

I've had problems with mine. First the inside of the barrel was scratched up and damaging darts so I had to switch out the barrel and then last weekend at a war the actual slide for the pump broke instead of pushing backwards it bends down. I've loved it when it's worked but I've been very unhappy with the quality control

[@blasterface22]

That sucks. Call or email customer support and they can send you a replacement. With a mass produced product there's always a certain % of returns/bad units. Sending it back will help us find problems and improve. We've had a very low return rate so far so sending even one unit back helps us a lot. Scratched barrels is a new thing, and can probably be solved with part handling / cleanliness improvements. FYI I left a comment previously but KZbin took it down, I think because I listed the customer support phone number. It's on the Game Face Blasters website under "returns".

[@timshooter8033]

@@blasterface22 when I first got my Trion I thought there was a problem w/the priming mechanism...but the more I played with it, I realized it was human error....I wasn't pulling it all the way back (firmly) to make sure it clicks . I think it just needed a little break-in period....now it fires every time, I love it !

[@blasterface22]

@@timshooter8033 Sweet. Most of the customer issues we've dealt with have been not racking it hard enough, not getting the pump grip back all the way, and also.... this is a weird one... hooking your trigger finger around the trigger and pulling it hard to the side while firing. Anything we can improve in the product we do, but sometimes you gotta get the customer to really rack it hard and pull that trigger cleanly with the pad of your finger like a sniper!

[@GG-si7fw]

I was wondering which one, the Game Face Trion or the Worker Harrier would you get?

[@outofdarts]

Both of those blasters have different but overlapping qualities and performance stats. It really depends on what game I'm building a loadout for.

[@adriansue8955]

While the Harrier has more Metal parts in its construction, I consider the Trion to be a more Refined Design.

[@OwlskiTV]

@@adriansue8955 Interesting you say this, as Coop mentions how he had to modify the Trion, as some parts of it felt uncomfortable. I guess it's similar to Luke and the discomfort using the thumbhole stock.

[@adriansue8955]

@@OwlskiTV By Refined, I was referring to its Internals Design. Notably its catch/seer and trigger system. -I believe coop makes a note of how different the trigger pull feels; but you have to see inside to fully appreciate how the mechanism works. Its very different from any existing blaster's systems. Personal Ergonomic preferences are a different matter.

[@OwlskiTV]

@@adriansue8955 Ah I see. I did hear though that the trigger mechanism for the Trion did have some issues (can read some people mentioning this issue on the Out of Darts store review page for this blaster). Wonder if they got lemons, or the internal design for the trigger system (albeit refined) might of caused unforseen issues show shows later in heavy play.

[@adriansue8955]

Thumbhole Stock tho... yeah, they made it able to accept alternate parts. But its still annoying that they chose a cramped thumbhole stock as the default. additional hidden costs to replace that with something better.

[@Germany-European_Union]

@outofdarts buying one of these, could I expect the material to be high quality and sturdy as something like the harrier?

[@tyler9463]

I also found that if you bump the blaster on the side while its primed with safety on it will shoot, need to be known for safety reasons

[@blasterface22]

Sorry to hear that. If you call customer support (phone number is on the returns section of the website) we'll send a replacement. Us taking a look at your blaster will help us improve quality control.

[@tyler9463]

I personally dont think a replacement would fix that issue tbh, i love my blaster but I do feel that the piece between the trigger and the plunger catch is too sensitive when bumped and it can make the blaster go off, I replaced the trigger spring with a stronger one and it made it harder for it to happen but it is still possible to bump fire, thx you tho

[@blasterface22]

@@tyler9463 As the designer I can say pretty confidently that a replacement will fix your issue. We could talk about the chemistry of Delrin and so on but we've found I think 2 returns with your issue. It's a part that the factory is sometimes molding too hot and the plastic is not crystalizing properly. Your secondary sear support is probably warped slightly, which reduces the purchase it has on the main sear, meaning that a shock can cause an inertial firing. It was something we found and solved during the design process but it crept back up in sample parts from the injection mold. A Trion with a part that is molded properly can be dropped from 3ft on a hard surface and it doesn't fire and it's impossible for human hands to bump fire it. It would actually help us demonstrate the issue to the factory and help correct it. Doors always open if you want a return.

[@tyler9463]

Well I'd definitely be open to that but not sure that my blaster meets the requirements because it's been painted / lightly modded. I've removed the slam fire and the safety and changed 2 small spring on the catch and trigger, if I prime it I can use my wrist to bump where the safety was and it fires most of the time

[@blasterface22]

@@tyler9463 I can understand not wanting to have to do all the mods again. If you're on discord my username is the same as here. DM me and I'll mail you a replacement sear support you can swap in. You sound like an advanced user so a part swap might be the best option and then you don't have to reproduce all your mods on a new blaster.

[@05weasel]

Ordered mine today (sadly had to go through Walmart. Couldn’t turn down the $10 price reduction and free shipping). Also ordered the scar barrel. Any chance we get any other mod options on the website?

[@TheScottPlayer]

any update of what springs can push the blaster into the 250fps range? thank you

[@AKGarcia-b3l]

My nexus broke i ordered one of these im never going back to full lengths🗣🗣🔥🔥

[@eagelcat]

I don't think that you can have too many springers and I think game face is awesome

[@eagelcat]

There's a design I heard about that allows for space for small repair kits and tools to place inside the stock because its rigid but Halo it would be something you could put on a buffer tube stock or easily any outher kind of Stock according to the design I heard about it could hold a small or medium-size side arm blaster this isn't exactly an original an original design play one that we haven't really implemented into the blaster space it would take some doing and it wouldn't be the cheapest to make my Android probably take some research and development however I do think it could be I think a good possible name for this new stock design cud be zebra

[@unkknown__name1517]

Ha you used the song game face on the video about the game face trion

[@inoutlaw23]

It’s a nice blaster and worked perfectly but mine stopped working a week in 🤷‍♂️

[@Casual_BackPacking]

how come no one talks about weight of blasters

[@Tacodave1679]

It's a great blaster when it decides to work. In my group we have 5 trions and only one worked reliably. Not once on any of the bigger nerf channels does anyone mention the firing issue. Makes me not want to trust these guys, which is pretty terrible considering all they do now is reviews. I also don't see many comments regarding this issue which leads me to believe they are being deleted. Do not trust this reveiw this blaster is not reliable in the least, get a cheaper blaster that fires when you pull the trigger. At least worker admitted the swift had issues and fixed it but Gameface just cooses to pretend it's user error.

[@blasterface22]

I’ve seen your comments on a couple videos and I always say the same thing. Call customer support. Of the ~1% of returns we’ve had the majority are user error. I should just release a video showing what you’re doing and how to fix it (basically good form). If you can’t bother to engage customer support then it’s not really an issue we can help you with.

[@Tacodave1679]

@@blasterface22 it seems that all customer service says is that it's just user error. Funny how all other blasters seem to work when you pull the trigger normally but apparently I'm pulling the trigger wrong on this one? There's no point in contacting customer service of everyone else who has gets told that it's user error. The community has already figured out how to fix the issue so I'm just gonna do that. I just wanted to point out that people are purchasing these blasters based off these reviews and not once does anyone mention this massive issue.

[@blasterface22]

​@@Tacodave1679 They should offer you an exchange. Call back and mention that I said that. You might have a particularly marginal unit. That being said, most of our returns are customer error. The company has been in business 100 years and what people are doing is commonly called "meat hooking." It happens with air guns, and even real firearms sometimes. It does not happen when you use the product correctly. Shoot with the pad of your finger, don't hook your whole finger around and pull to the side with your knuckle. That said the long term solution is a little extra lube which we're adding to the assembly process. The community solutions (hey Baygul!) is the same: lube. If you're following some of the people that are cutting plastic away, well you're following sloppy debugging from people who don't understand the mechanism and we would advise against that. I've built and shot over a hundred Trion's and I don't ever get the issue. We found the issue by observing customer behavior then carefully developing a method of reproducing it. That said, you should understand this is a mass produced product made in China with an acceptable return rate of up to 3%. We've had a 0.6% return last I checked, which is exceptional. The easiest and cheapest thing to do is call and get a replacement. I could give a lecture on variation in mass produced products but it would be boring. When you have a sample size of 1 I know the issue seems "massive" but on our end I struggle to get permission to fix some things because the are so small of a failure rate that it does not make economic sense to fix them. One of the reasons you're seeing reviews that are so positive and don't mention this problem is that not many people have it.

[@akagainesy]

Has anyone done a proper comparison of the Trion, Harrier and other equivalents?? Maybe a couple of Retalicons with the different kits available too??... I have a Retalicon I keep updating, and really enjoy the customizablity as well as the fact I built it myself. But I'm getting more and more intrigued by these out of the box blasters. Like is it really worth it if I already have something similar?? ............. Also Bradly Philips recently released a video comparing the latest darts. It's like 40mins long and knowing Brad will be very extensive.

[@skwashua]

Gameface sounds like a Temu knockoff brand name. They should have just used the Crosman.

[@eagelcat]

Love ✌️ respect 😁

[@frinkypinky]

Bro a crappy Airsoft gun brand makes better nerf guns than nerf 💀💀

[@thecappy]

Needs better colors.

[@blasterface22]

I think that's going to eventually happen.

[@thecappy]

@@blasterface22 Good to hear. Great job on the blaster. I’ll pick one up once the other color/s come out.

[@adriansue8955]

GameFace Darts are Not Good. as noted, they're lighter to increase FPS but that comes as the cost of being less accurate I see them whirlybirding and veering off more than the competition -Avoid These Darts

[@blasterface22]

They have a lot less drop over a given distance, and with a SCAR they have groupings that are as good as what you can buy at Walmart and Target. They’re similar to the DZP Bamboos which are even lighter. They’re not the only darts we’ll ever release. New designs with different characteristics are on the way.

[@Si-Fi.51]

First!! Only one minute old!