Traxxas Sledge VS Arrma Kraton COMPARISON. Is The Sledge Worth $200 More?

[@tyrellcorp2118]

So a bigger front bumper on the Arrma is bad, but a bigger rear bumper on the Traxxas is good? Plastic above the Traxxas shock tower provides protection, but in an Arrma it causes damage? You don’t have to buy EXB diffs, spend $200 more, and upgrade the Kraton RTR. Just get an EXB from the start. It’s in the same price range as a Sledge and is the fairer comparison. THEN the comparison becomes much different. The EXB has the better front bumper, LSD diffs, thicker arms, 7075 aluminum everywhere including the chassis, shock towers, chassis supports, etc. How do the Sledge’s plastic chassis supports and shock caps compare now? While you try to sound fair, I think a bias and motive are showing. Time will tell which is more durable, the Sledge or EXB. But by comparing to a Kraton RTR instead of an EXB, you’ve already decided to make a video that will put the Sledge ahead.

[@hayden199516]

Eh, sounds more like you’re bias towards the Aarma. But to each their own, I suppose. Time will tell…

[@tyrellcorp2118]

@@hayden199516 I have no bias. But this video was predetermined to promote the Sledge over a Kraton. He compares to an RTR Kraton and complains it needs $200 in upgrades. (That’s still cheaper than a Sledge.) If he compared to the similarly priced EXB, he knows the comparison would be much different.

[@chrisbyrd677]

I have stuff from Traxxas and Arrma as well, but listening to this review you would think the Kraton is a POS...such a biased review from a Traxxas fanboy.

[@chrisbyrd677]

Not to take away from the Sledge, it looks like a beast, I'm just sayin'.

[@419rcaddict5]

Agreed

[@EXTREMERC416]

Well yeah kinda.

[@Growerman211]

Ive had every 6s arrma and e revo and sledge, the bad part of arrma is the diff ring gears are trash and the bad part about traxxas is they make the battery boxes only big enough to run there weak junk traxxas batteries, but with the sledge u can toss the battery top lock and use velcro straps to run a nice 10000+ mah 150c 6s pack the revo ur just screwed, i realy wish arrma would make different gear boxes and ring n input gears cuz i love there cars

[@Growerman211]

Guy the traxxas can never win in the battery box department cuz they make it 2 small to try to get u to use there weak mah and c rating batteries

[@mikeblankumsee4668]

I enjoy you honest presentation, you are brave enough to show you have a favorite, yet still give credit where you see benefits in ALL that you compare

[@sambagogo777]

$800 and yet... - anodised parts not colour coordinated, blue body excepted (Traxxas sell them as accessories) - plastic shock caps (Traxxas sell metal ones for a grossly inflated price) - no cooling fan on the motor (Traxxas sell it as an optional extra) - heavy at 5.77kg (without batteries) - ponderous steering due to the slow steering server - considerable understeer (not properly remedied by TSM which induces oversteer) - lack of control at higher speeds due to ballooning tyres - same old Traxxas ESC - motor brace doesn't screw onto other motors like a Hobbywing - absence of 7075, including the 6061 chassis of 3.2mm thickness - tyre blow-outs still occurring despite the claims of improved gluing - nose-heavy so is awkward to land from jumps Also, your assertion that Sledge won't wheelie too much due to its thicker fluids is not the case because various KZbinrs have already shown that it wheelies all too easily.

[@spike--]

🤣😂😅🤦

[@Art-zs6sl]

I'll add my personal experience to this. My E-Revo 2.0 escs died with traxxas batteries. BOTH of them. The second one popped and it wasn't even warm. I can see why someone who hasn't had the experience would tend to blame the user, but at least in my case it was the product.

[@FilipRadelic]

Apparently VXL-3S has been updated for Sledge, so hopefully the new version is fixed and makes its way back into E-Revo and UDR fast and everyone gets their obviously flawed old version replaced for free with the new one whenever it breaks. Not likely to happen, but that would be a right thing to do and I'm sure Traxxas could afford it.

[@wwjoshdew]

Same. My Maxx esc died after one moth. Using Traxxas 4s 5k batteries. They replaced it, and the replacement died 11 months later. I now run max8 and the same Traxxas batteries.

[@michaelgarland579]

@@wwjoshdew okay I have problems with the 3s broke 2 times I never had problems with 6s an 8s Traxxas my xmaxx is a beast an maxx v2 awesome but the skeeter beats all of them it's my favorite for bashing

[@psp420bam]

Ya all electronics have defect rates of around 10% regardless of brand. I have 4 traxxas maxx,summit 1/16 and 2 4-tec 2.0's ford gt vxl and ford mustang never had a battery problem until they die from age lasting years. I have had 1 motor die on my maxx taking my esc with it but it was my fault due to modding gearing issue after putting on bigger/heavier tires but its been corrected and fine since

[@mikescallon4288]

I really enjoyed this video. You explained so much about the Sledge and gave me many of the answers to many of the questions I had about the vechile. So much so that I am no longer going to trade it for something else which I had been strongly considering. Having owned several Arrma's I had been wondering why Arrma vechiles seem to have a "looser" feel to the wheels/driverrain with more wheelspin and/or rotation when either initially engaging or taking your finger off the throttle during different driving conditions. Conditions such as cornering then releasing the throttle and accelerating, there is more play in the wheels. I did not realize that the weight of the diff fluid is the cause of that and that Traxxas uses a heavier weight compund. It almost feels like Traxxas vechiles require more steady engagement of the throttle in some instances which now that I know there is nothing wrong with the vechile I am completely fine with it. I recently had gotten pretty used to the Typhoon 6s and Talion so I had been comparing it to them. Sometimes it is nice to have that but understanding that better really helped out.

[@hayden199516]

This is EXACTLY the review I was waiting for. I’ve only recently found your channel, but I love it. There’s no one else I’ve found as observant as I am, reviewing rc’s. Thank you, sir!! Have a great weekend!

[@hayden199516]

@@dontplaydumb2352 Yep, I’ve reported it as well. Scammers suck, they have no life’s.

[@michaelgarland579]

@@dontplaydumb2352 yeah I agree I like this guy and you know his dad passed away I feel bad but why in the hell would he put that scam or congratulations you have been selected at random winner that is bogus and from now on I won't be subscribed to this channel JT Tech is my first choice or razor rc

[@michaelgarland579]

@@dontplaydumb2352 good I'm glad you did that I'm not into the scamming thing and I hate people that do that so you did the right thing

[@hayden199516]

@@dontplaydumb2352 Wait, why did you do what you did, to Outsourced? He doesn’t have control over who steals and uses his photo?… Look up Marques Brown’s video on this very problem. Be mad at KZbin…

[@hayden199516]

@@dontplaydumb2352 What is he going to be able to do? Not upload a profile picture so crooks can’t steal it and try to imitate him?… You’re sounding a little ridiculous, and upset at the wrong person. You should be mad at the scammers that are immoral and going through the effort to copy him and try to scam.

[@gurseveksrc3386]

The sledge is nice but the kraton 6s exb is the best basher. It’s 470 plus 200 for all electronics and that $670 and stock from its very durable but you can make it bulletproof with $130 worth of upgrades. So if you ask me get sledge if your more of a beginner and kraton 6s exb if you want a bulletproof car that you can keep sending 50 feet plus high.

[@damson2809]

What electronic you're getting for $200

[@gurseveksrc3386]

@@damson2809 used max 6 combo with dumbo radio 😅

[@sitlos.]

What about servo? Decent electronics are $300-$350 easy which makes it the same price if not more then the sledge

[@gurseveksrc3386]

@@sitlos. the Amazon one that like 20 bucks. It’s the best cheap servo

[@gurseveksrc3386]

@@sitlos. also I’m waiting for more vids of the sledge. So far it seems to have weak axels and arms. Also the chassis bends like any other metal chassis car. But I think there needs to be more vids tho.

[@curtishubbard907]

The only thing I don’t like about the slidge is can’t put a bigger motor but yea traxxas all ways kills it on the gears love traxxas and arama cars do enjoy all of them good video

[@BeautyBeastRC]

This is my biggest problem with it to. I cringe when I see people praising the cradle. I think the sledge looks cool overall but I'd take a kraton exb over it every time.

[@fiatfixie4344]

The other thing nobody talks about is these motors get hot AF. They do on the Kraton anyway. At least there you can put a big fat heat sink on it with a fan, issue resolved.

[@curtishubbard907]

The arama motor’s does get really quick they need a fan out of the box

[@BeautyBeastRC]

@@curtishubbard907 totally agree, it's easy to over heat a kraton for example and beginners don't know any better.

[@AndrewStorlie]

Sounds like this review is paid for by traxxas lol.

[@Crazycorn2]

Yeah, it's biased as hell.

[@a.k.vollmer5200]

I think Traxxas did a great job on the Sledge. I’d buy one but I have a Xmaxx so I’ll just stick with that

[@horatio321]

I think the Sledge looks like a fantastic 6S Truggy too. Unfortunately, out of principle, many of us in the hobby will buy - ABT.

[@billkampas3042]

Xmaxx is junk

[@horatio321]

I think the Sledge and the XRT are good Trucks. But that's not really the issue. ABT.

[@billkampas3042]

@@horatio321 buy both

[@horatio321]

@@billkampas3042 When Traxass stop trying to destroy the rest of the hobby that we're supposed to love so much - only then I'll consider adding a Traxass to my collection. 👍

[@zerrickdracing6784]

Well the Nero didn't look like a traxxas either only the shock placement

[@withlinbarhm1627]

Right. And traxxas still sued them cause they knew their shitty products wasn’t gonna beat Arrmas products.

[@Art-zs6sl]

@@withlinbarhm1627 But.. they always have?

[@mattdyer489]

@@Art-zs6sl 😂. The only 2 things that traxxas beats arrma at, is baseless lawsuits, and selling uneducated rc owners s**t products.

[@DashzRight]

How are traxxas shitty? They make the most easy to use and repair and most durable cars in the market, arrma metal is chinesium and their cars look like any other rc car in the market, haters gonna hate

[@zerrickdracing6784]

@@DashzRight I don't think it's a shitty product I feel they sued arrma for the same reason but I like them I just don't like that they did that but traxxas is good but not there price good, period frfr

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Brilliant review as always. I don't own a traxxas as yet, but if I was to buy one the new sledge would be my first. In fact I'm 95% sure I'll buy one in the next few months. Thanks for sharing. Your opinions are always very helpful in my dissisions when buying a new rc. I'm actually excited about buying my first traxxas. John

[@jason4768]

I don’t think it’s worth 200 more. I like the Talion over both of them. The Talion’s super fast and easy to drive plus it’s lighter than both.

[@chriseller757]

How is it bashing though

[@rc4life213]

Actually the higher the kv the more rpm the motor has but less power but with less kv there’s more power/torque but less rpm and that’s why you can also put a higher gearing in it

[@pewterngold]

Been saying it for years….Arma diffs lead the field in SUCK.

[@surfside75]

Shim them tight and no issues.

[@berninme]

I like the plated springs on the Kraton. Won't rust as easy as the Traxxas springs. It also looks like the Sledge might have a suspension tie bar that is painted or anodized blue. That would be a big improvement over the xmaxx where the tie bar is plain steel and rusts out like crazy. Overall I think these trucks would be way better if the manufactures paid more attention to corrosion protection. Makes it look nicer longer and easier to work on later.

[@jimeikevag3146]

I would love you too compare this with the erevo. Which is most fun to drive? Which one has better steering in air? Which one is the best basher in term of quality.

[@nofreerides7033]

Appreciate all the info but a run comparison would have been nice …

[@Sublimelife411]

It looks like Traxxas finally made a real RC for a change. It also looks like Traxxas used the Arrma as its Inspiration. Welcome to the world of hobby grade RC Traxxas!

[@outsourcedrc]

I don't think it was inspired by Arrma. This is a truggy design that has been around for a long time. It's just a scaled up buggy.

[@psp420bam]

I was happy with the original e-maxx decades ago before arma existed and impressed with my maxx even more being so much more durable/tougher but you know fanboys highly opinionated. I prefer traxxas and have 4 of them as I consider them more creative in design and features but have nothing against arma which I have 1 of their entry level 2wd trucks and a good brand as well

[@theAessaya]

Can confirm, getting the broken screws out of the diff case when that Kraton's bumper breaks is indeed a pain in the derriere. Though it took mine a high-speed head-on impact into a lighting post to break that thing. Surprisingly, nothing else broke. Thankfully, the front hinge pin brace (the red piece right behind the bumper on Kraton) can be easily pulled out when the screws break, so you get about half an inch of bolt to hang on to with pliers. Other than that, been fairly happy with mine :)

[@FilipRadelic]

Sledge seems absolutely worth it over Kraton. But I never liked Kraton or truggies in general and despite Sledge having some awesome details and obviously being a tank, I still like E-Revo a lot more and hope they release a 3.0 with some of these upgrades, especially the new body mount system and those moulded fixed links. They can keep all the aluminium off of it, rear brace is enough 😅

[@Art-zs6sl]

The E-Revo moves like a cat with big paws, it's pretty cool. Doesn't land as gracefully though.

[@FilipRadelic]

@@Art-zs6sl I can’t imagine Sledge landing more gracefully being nearly identical in size, ground clearance and wheel size to E-Revo, while also being 0.7kg heavier.

[@paulclancy2404]

Yea but the Nero wasn't the knockoff it was better totally differenthad locking diffs like the summit , I don't buy that story it was just the legal road they needed to try put there #1 rivals out of buis and it worked . Good review 👍 I agree everything else love my arrmas but diff maintaince is a must unlike traxxas my typhon did hang with the maxx in longevity for a while but I had more hrs on the typhon and did have to do a couple bearings on the maxc

[@EXTREMERC416]

Their main argument its too similar to our e revo so people will confuse the two. There was no similarities between the two one was made with metal frames and insane beefed up components. They still wont the lawsuit but hobbico was already at the edge of going out. The same argument could be used on the arrma side because the sledge and the kraton are a lot more similar than the e revo and nero were. But again Lawsuits are disgusting in the hobby it hurts us all at the end. Arrma won’t sue it has been confirmed by jason himsel

[@666cemetaryslut]

Doesn't matter which one you think is better, Traxxas made their truck first. Taking their name and changing one letter is probably what did them in.

[@ryand5665]

You sound like you have your mind already made up about which car you like better lol. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on one. Great video.

[@digitalx3136]

Really enjoy your videos buddy I've been a fan for a long time! Enjoy the new truck!

[@whistlinlipo]

For everyone’s info, Traxxas sued Hobbico Inc. more details are at case number 18-10055 if you google it. Pretty interesting read.

[@f687sNFM]

Not to mention traxxas sued hbo, they sue even if they dont own the patent (like the nero vs revo)

[@spike--]

😭

[@serafimdwyer5269]

Ha that's funny

[@johnwindsor9069]

Nice video! You made some good points, but after viewing several Traxxas Sledge video's, I've decided to pull the trigger on the Kraton EXB, it is more for me (while its on sale this month). I've been into R/C for more than 25 years, and at this point I want everything customizable, especially in the electronics area. Traxxas made a great "safe" truck that anyone can use out of the box, It really does look good. For the price though, the lack of suspension adjustment is what kind of bothers me, as does the overall weight, and small battery tray. Moving the camber link on the towers, is not the same as being able to adjust the over all length. IMO, it may be over priced, and should be around $650-$699 range. In this video a question is asked, is $200-$250 between the Kraton V5, and Sledge really worth it? Yes, definitely for some, but for only $200 more than the Sledge, you can own the King of the Traxxas line up, the Xmaxx.

[@SebastianLong]

The Sledge looks very durable but by far the best part is the solid one piece camber and toe links. I dont care what company you refer to but the only reason to have adjustable toe and camber links is for a racer, not so great on a basher.

[@rudysrc6652]

I’ve seen all the reviews on these vehicles and this is the BEST REVIEW on the internet!! Great job! Love the insight!! You are the man!! Keep making your vids. I always find them fun and entertaining! Peace ✌🏽 out!!

[@kasperstasiewicz4965]

I was waiting for your opinion! The Sledge will be my next RC-Truck and yeah, I'm sure it is worth the price. Here in Germany the Sledge costs (820€) ~900$ and will be available online in May... I'm very excited and can't wait for it! Thanks you for the video! Greetings from Germany!

[@teslacybertruck750]

Based on what I have watched in other videos that compare these two as well, I believe the Kraton has proven to be much better. Cheaper, better built what else can we ask for?..

[@DashzRight]

Based on absolutely 0 facts? How is the Kraton better built or much better? Have you bother watching disassembly videos? Arrma gears and parts are thin and small. Not to mention it is a pita to deal with body clips and straps for the battery, no cage inside the body, and a pita to disassemble compared to the modular designs of traxxas.

[@user-nu2pp5tc5q]

@@DashzRight check out all the main dif gears stripping out on the Sledge already🤔🤔

[@outsourcedrc]

So far the only one that has broken with me is the Kraton.

[@francostacy7675]

@@DashzRight people in the 70s that were fans of Dodge Ford and Chevy used to say similar things about Toyota…cheaply made, poor design, not beefy, expensive parts, poor metal, won’t hold up, hard to work on….turned out those critics were making excuses and brand loyal and therefore biased and Toyota went on to be the biggest automaker and the most reliable. My point, some of these comments are biased by brand loyalty or shop loyalty. Design is only a prediction and usage is the real test or validation of the design and consumers will make the final decision with their funds

[@3DudesRC]

Awesome video! Both of these trucks look amazing! I just wish the Sledge wasn't quite so expensive.

[@3DudesRC]

@@dontplaydumb2352 Yep, I know. I’ve seen them on other channels before. Thanks for the heads up tho!

[@Basherqueen]

Just an amazing comparison! 😍 Well done and thank you so much for sharing! 👍💪🙏😘

[@zerrickdracing6784]

What is that crazy stuff saying you won a traxxas sledge it did the same thing to me

[@SebastianLong]

@@zerrickdracing6784 Me too. Seems many people have won. Starting to wonder why so many have won.

[@SebastianLong]

@@zerrickdracing6784 Currently doing some research on it. I know where the company is out of and waiting for them to tell me to see if the information matches.

[@zerrickdracing6784]

@@SebastianLong because there lying 🤥

[@SebastianLong]

@@zerrickdracing6784 We shall see. Im giving them a few days then filing a claim. Thats why i always use PayPal.

[@donniehallaman7685]

The sledge looks cool , my only issue with it and traxxas, is I feel like the sledge is made to compete with the kraton rtr, exb, and the talion , however again traxxas makes it cost more then those 3 other vehicles. At 800 bucks you are only 100 or so away from an xmax or 8s arrma. I know you gotta still buy batteries and charger etc, but you gotta buy those items anyways no matter what vehicle you buy. Why can't traxxas make a car that is better ,stronger , for the same money? Or at the very least use an ec5 connector so you can use batteries you already have without changing connectors and shit.

[@aaroncorbett5637]

Big Facts!!! No Doubt The Sledge Looks Nice. But $200 More? I'll Pass

[@jeremythornton3240]

It should be compared to the Kraton 6s EXB only! The EXB would be about the same price and is way better, period.

[@wwjoshdew]

Great freaking video dude. Like and favorite from me!!

[@frankiep2314]

Thanks for the information awesome video keep up the good work already got mine traxxas sludge pre order and stay safe ✌️

[@DB-qm4jx]

Excellent review! You filled on the gaps some of the other good reviewer’s missed! Nice job. Plus you highlight Ed the DIFF situation! Finally someone hits it right. Seems Traxxas has engineer’s that understand how vehicles should work.

[@paulclancy2404]

As durable as traxxas diffs are the are the simple 3 diff systems are still best alot of the

[@danielcase2189]

Filled the gaps with a ton of inaccurate Information. You would think a rc review channel would do simple research b4 sounding like uts the first time you had ever seen any rc

[@Art-zs6sl]

@@danielcase2189 What was inaccurate in your opinion?

[@danielcase2189]

@@Art-zs6sl first about the chassis the regular kraton is the same aluminum as the sledge the exb kraton has t6 7075 aluminum chassis. But the the regular kraton and sledge have the 6061 stock for chassis which is softer. Also traxxas sued arrma over the cantilevered suspension that the Nero had. I might add many rc had b4 traxxas. So if a couple of super simple facts are that wrong as well as a few more. Most of his video was just him assuming or trying to pretend his opinion was fact because of his bias. Sad to see reviewers try and fake it to make it just to get free review products from a brand. They care more about views and what they will get than giving and honest representation of real facts.

[@tramontawilliams715]

@rcfunz I'm with u when you are right. it seems more like a fanboy review.

[@vitodambra72]

Great video, awesome comparison from Arrma & Traxxas you have answered a few questions that some other KZbinr’s have left out! Thanks brother much appreciate 😉👍🏼💯I ordered mine last week(red) green one looks good as well!!

[@JustGrant25]

The sledge looks like the ultimate 1/8th scale truggy I think it’s gonna be super popular!

[@EXTREMERC416]

Getting a RTR kraton is kinda pointless. Just get the exb roller. Traxxas made like an extrem bash version to compete against the kraton then the comparaison would be better against the EXB’s RTR. I have yet to hear someone who is a fan of the exb RTR. I was able to build a kraton exb and get it running for 75-100$ more than the RTR but i have every upgrade the RTR doesnt have. The chassis both bent so far. Both wing mounts are wear items. The fix people have found for the wing mounts on the arrmas are 3D printed wing mounts from 3D RC. Made out pf TPU the RPM are more flexible and durable than the factory mount but still break pretty easily. Tbone is just too rigid and breaks other stuff

[@chaddavis513]

This is awesome! And really cool of the hobby shop to lend you those killer RC's to make a video. 👍💯🔥👊

[@wallysrcdemolition2642]

awsome review both cars a great hopefully i can get my sledge soon to see if it lives up to the hype

[@matseurenius2214]

I'm saving up for a Sledge this summer. 😍

[@someonewhocares5712]

I just got my Sledge so far been great haven’t been into rc cars in 30 years wow is all I can say thanks for sharing 😊😊😊😊😊

[@EXTREMERC416]

Looking foward for their first runs

[@codyhenley12]

You should do a video of the exb kraton and sledge.

[@Alphabet7]

KV doesn't matter at all it's just the rotation of the motor. The simple way to judge how powerful a motor is is simply by size to be honest unless you want to get technical size is probably the best teller of performance

[@paulclancy2404]

Rpm per volts = kv

[@Aro800]

Great comparison. Love the new body shell mount. But added body pins to battery mount. 🤷😁

[@Lithium023]

Sounds like your going to be owning the sledge, good choice it looks like a well designed stable rig. Looking forward to some more vids on it, also super cool design how that body comes off.

[@Lithium023]

@@dontplaydumb2352 ya I've replied several times saying this is a scam but for some reason it keeps being deleted or not posted properly.

[@michaelmacisco2566]

Awesome comparison ! Really cant wait to see what you think ! Im with you less fixing diffs wing mounts and more driving

[@Jonathan-bk7gs]

I've run thick differential fluid in my Arrma diffs, and bash the hell out of them. I've never had one single issue with them.

[@paulclancy2404]

Definitely require more maintenance but they do hit and perform better i need one of each arrma diff now, if dont use aluminum cases they eventually warp

[@Enforcers10]

In Our Arrma FB Group for Germany, there is every Week Someone with Diff Problems. When ever a newb asking what to do with his new RTR Car… he has to check Diff Fluid and shim the Diffs, before he drives. Let’s call it „semi-RTR“ 😀

[@eM4rio]

@@Enforcers10 do you guys change diff case for Alu ones ? Without so much play like stock ones ?

[@EXTREMERC416]

The secret is shimming them properly. But not everyone thinks that.

[@fiatfixie4344]

I see a lot of people assigning old Kraton issues to new Kratons in reviews. The V5 Kraton and the Fireteam are running basically the same components and reviewers were gushing over the Fireteams durability. Kraton's supposably ridiculously underpowed compared to its competitors. I mixed some 200k with stock center diff oil in mine, can barely keep the front wheels down on grass...

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

I have around $1k into my Kraton 6s exb. I love driving it but it breaks more than most of my other RC’s. That sledge looks tough. But that new fireteam is tough too!

[@NotGavin]

Yep, don't fall for it.

[@superfabian143]

oh! But doesn't the EXB already have so many upgraded parts to make it tougher?

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

@@superfabian143 yeah the ESB is the extreme basher model. Sledge has more durability enhancements than the regular RTR kratons. About same as EXB.

[@philthyco1]

@@thejeepinrealtor5742 No it doesnt..It's junk

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

@@philthyco1 no what isn’t and what is junk? No clue what you’re talking about.

[@douglaselliott8298]

After 2 years research I recently purchased a SCX10 III(a beta tester I am not) This here Sledge might also earn my favor if it proves as good as it looks. Thanks for the comparison.

[@suthius85]

Man. The only two Traxxas vehicles I have, are a Summit and a Maxx I got during their sale which came with widekit. Both under $500 each. Would love a Revo or Sledge, but a bit steep for me.

[@psp420bam]

Good choices. I have a maxx,summit 1/16 and 2 4-tec 2.0's ford gt vxl and ford mustang. I have put around $600 in upgrades on my maxx such as the wide-kit,8990 light kit, 8996X metal axles,2085x servo,HR racing bellcrank and proline 3.8" belted badland tires and around $200 in upgrades on the summit

[@Brayrfd1192]

​@@psp420bamI have about 250 in my maxx about to get a sledge today

[@robertrodriguez5558]

I can’t wait to get a Sledge! Love the car! Hate the name!

[@codenamethecleaner7519]

Ya lol pretty lame name just took a tire name and through it on a car haha

[@pyroman6695]

Very awesome to see another rc fan here in Georgia. In in "north" Georgia. I wish there were some good rc places up here in my area for me and my kiddo to take our rc truck to. He has arrma notorious 6s v5 and I have the traxxas xmaxx 8s. Both a little modded and beat the hell out of 😂 😂.

[@fullsendmadness3406]

arrma,s after market upgrades destroy anything the sledge has to offer, your points are geared towards the sledge being a better basher. all rigs have to be upgraded to handle big abuse, arrma has a way better platform for upgrades but maybe in a year or 2 the upgrades for traxxas will be here…… but by then arrma will have come up with a new platform that will have traxxas scratching there heads for another decade. props to traxxas for finally getting a truggy right🤙

[@Mikep01978]

Probably can’t run them if there the hobby shops. Can’t sell them after.. I’m he’s going to buy one. I just picked up one with a completer kit with 2- 3s batteries total price was 1,102.89$ .pricing has definitely gotten higher

[@jonk967]

Great video man, I like seeing the RTR Kraton compared to the sledge. Everyone else is comparing the EXB with the sledge. I love the sledge under the body, but I wish they would have used an update erevo style body in stead. Looking forward to seeing upcoming videos with the sledge!!

[@EXTREMERC416]

Well price wise its comparable

[@brettradecki]

With all of the other review videos out, I felt I was waiting for your video for a true comparison. Thanks man!

[@jacksonnault6316]

Sledge is only $700 dollars now, but you do need 2 batteries so that racks it up past 800 if you don't already have the batteries

[@aaroncorbett5637]

Kraton 6s > Sledge 6s... The Traxxas Is Nice Looking, But It Being $200+ More It Shouldn't Have The Issues That People Have Been Encountering. The Dog Bones Shouldn't Be Popping Out In Such A Short Time In Ownership.

[@rraphamonkey8312]

Excellent informativ video. no-one does this stuff with this much off passion....grande! Actually money scuker companies like Traxxas and Arrma should pay you for this kind of information. You help people to close the right RC car. Both are great cars for the right driver! Wish you would some RC boat videos. I am you would be even more impressed ridding a boat ;-))) Thanks again LoL have you kidnapped the cars? :-)))) PS I would go for the traxxas but I am saving up for an Xmaxx now

[@danielcase2189]

For what info the stuff that was completely wrong and inaccurate. Why would either company pay for that.

[@markbuffam3072]

I was really hoping you would review this truck. I love my E Revo just like you but the Sledge answers every one of the weaknesses (very few lol) of the E Revo and then some. I was surprised the Sledge wasn't more expensive to be honest. But it does "look" like it is going to be worth it. Only a dozen or so bash sessions will tell us the truth. I've already started saving for mine. Thanks for the video. And thanks to Stockbridge Hobby store.

[@ervinmedina9014]

More Expensive?? 🤔 800$$ , Oh yeah 850$$ with tax!!! For a 6s rig!! It's Not expensive 😜 👍

[@michaelgarland579]

Yeah I'm saving up money to get mine too it is kind of expensive compared to arrma kraton $600

[@markbuffam3072]

@@ervinmedina9014 Canadian prices for me ....... $1150. Lol

[@ervinmedina9014]

@@markbuffam3072 Yeah that is Outrageous!! This rig has all kinds of issues. The M2C parts you would have to put into it to make it RIGHT plus the initial cost, $$$$$ !!!! Crazy man 😆😆😆👍🍺🍺🍻

[@mxthunder2]

I want a sledge so bad. People love to hate it but for my purposes I think it will rip.

[@phaster01]

I’m new to your channel and it is AWESOME!! Now that I know you’re in Atlanta, I’d LOVE to bash with you on that amazing yard and layout you have. I have a TYPHON 6s, but not enough space to let it stretch its legs!! lol. Great video

[@johnlujan8706]

That's an accurate comparison for sure. I know I'm going to buy one. Thanks for the informative video.

[@danielcase2189]

Lmao the guy just made up stuff pretending to know what he was talking about. Then giving his opinion one said wrong made up info. Lmao.

[@karldwilkerson]

@@danielcase2189 what did he say that was incorrect?

[@danielcase2189]

@@karldwilkerson first about the chassis the regular kraton is the same aluminum as the sledge the exb kraton has t6 7075 aluminum chassis. But the the regular kraton and sledge have the 6061 stock for chassis which is softer. Also traxxas sued arrma over the cantilevered suspension that the Nero had. I might add many rc had b4 traxxas. So if a couple of super simple facts are that wrong as well as a few more. Most of his video was just him assuming or trying to pretend his opinion was fact because of his bias. Sad to see reviewers try and fake it to make it just to get free review products from a brand. They care more about views and what they will get than giving and honest representation of real facts.

[@rawkemsawkem3328]

The only review worthwhile I have seen on these 2 trucks. Thank you

[@jamiefox8670]

The slege also uses monkey metal for gears!

[@dondavis9249]

I'm am still vary much arrma all day and I've owned a few traxxas revo 2.5r emaxx vxl to name a couple.

[@pierholtrop5432]

So the kraton is not able to drive with the stock diff oils, the turnbuckles break constantly, the motor flops around, the bumper shears the screws off and the wing also destroys the screws and the body is too hard to take off because of the bodyclips

[@Ikonzrc]

Great review. You did a good job on the comparison 👍🍻

[@hubcityrcworx7266]

You can make the rear a-arm debris guard out of lexan very easy for the Arrma. I made a pair and they hold up well.

[@ForgedInFireFarts]

Best comparison vid I've seen so far! Thanks! Definitely makes me interested in picking up a sledge

[@Ilestun]

Back into the hobby after a pause, was looking to buy a 6s, to have the inbetween my 8s Xmaxx and 4s Kraton. Kinda disapointed when you showed the Sledge has aluminium chassis.......thats means less durable than plastic ones and much more expensive spare part. Xmaxx new plastic chassis is $22, Sledge new chassis is $80 and it won't be as durable as a plastic one. I guess they wanted to makes the chassis harder and less flexible for better handling and faster track records, that definitely makes sense, but it's not a basher then, its a truggy kinda designed for dirt tracks.

[@RCPropaganda]

lots of info here. I enjoy my exb a lot. So far it has held up well. I just do not like the price point in the Traxxas. I def would grab one if it was 700. The batteries being designed for Traxxas only batteries is a pain.

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

Been looking forward to your view on this.

[@vicdez]

The optional mounting locations for the front and rear camber links on the hubs and shock towers on the Sledge are NOT to adjust camber, but to adjust "camber gain" and "roll center." Very "Technical" adjustments for a basher. In reality the reason for the plastic camber and toe links is so that you can pay Traxxas for "Upgrades" later that are adjustable. (just like the sway bars) Don't Pi$$ on me and tell me it's raining. Get out of here with that 800 dollar price tag too. You can get a 1/5 scale Kraton and Outcast for only 70.00 dollars more right NOW (869.99 on amain)

[@shottingham]

All you gotta do for the Kraton 6s, other than buying the EXB, is shim the diff. A new servo goes without doubt. All other upgrades tend to come along as you bash. As for the Sledge; it's definitely on the edge when it comes to upgrading vs upkeep. Your milage will most defo be different when it comes to each cars! I bought a Rival MT10 on good reviews, but was left hugely disappointed due to their recent weak builds; only supplemented by 3rd party parts. Do the right thing and buy Arrma or Traxxas, just because you find parts. And their rated consistency.

[@kwrc2499]

Hahaha good review mate and the way you show your enthusiasm is absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to see a video about the orange Sledge you have pre-orderd and can't wait to buy a Sledge myself!

[@davidbrennan5]

I like to talk to people who have owned something I want for over a year before I buy something. I can ask questions and get honest answers. The sledge is unproven, think it is a little risky buying it right now.

[@zackoftrades8547]

What a great vid and what a small world! I’m literally right down the road in Augusta! Subbed. Traxxas Sledge is the gentleman’s choice!

[@williamoleary9330]

I’ll stick with two Kraton EXB’s. Which Arrma had on sale back during black Friday. And a real sale Traxxas.

[@therccelebrityspeedfresh5393]

Traxxas sledge is the winner I just made announcement about it 2 weeks ago. Sledge is haunting the arrma kraton trucks

[@SUBtRONiX213]

Everyone loved the Nero and there is nothing like it. The fact that they are gone is a sin. Little things like wing mount design and and motor mounts are nowhere close to the differences between the Nero and the Erevo. Sounds more like corporate greed than anything. The Sledge looks almost EXACTLY like the Kraton and that is just facts. I would bet my life that nobody on Earth bought a Nero thinking they were buying a revo.

[@bijansalehi65]

This is one of the most heavily biased comparisons I've ever seen. You lost me when you said the Sledge sat more "flat" than the Kraton. What you are describing is ride height and that's easily adjustable on either truck depending on how you set your preload. Also, you ALWAYS adjust this with the heaviest component in the truck, the battery. The Sldege body mounting system is a huge improvement but a deal breaker for me is the proprietary battery tray system and limited motor options. $200 is a significant price increase (33% more!) then I'd have to purchase Traxxas batteries. The fact they didn't include sway bars but nickel and dime you later doesn't sit well either. I know from my racing days those greatly affected the handling and are a necessity to corning. FWIW, I have several Traxxas and Arrma vehicles and have been in the hobby for over 35 years, going all the way back to the Tamiya Wild Willy, RC10, Kyosho Optima and some of the first nitro 1/8 buggies. Both companies have great products and innovative designs from what I've seen over the years.

[@aaroncorbett5637]

EXACTLY!!! Proprietary Batteries, Faulty Rear Dog Bones, $200 More & No Motor Fan... Mehhh I'm Good. I'll Pass On The Sledge

[@geoffburnham3967]

I've only recently found your channel but after watching a dozen or so of your videos i would have been shocked if you said anything else. You do love Traxxas gear. 😀

[@dylanwhite6539]

I like the thicker fluid. But I feel like these two companies went to the opposite extremes. If I pick one up I’ll be using 1 million to start. I have slightly thinner in my erevo and love it. 20 is great in the xmaxx but a bit too thick for everything else, especially the maxx

[@damoknows1543]

I was shocked when he said 20 million too, I totally expected him to say 1 mil. I'd be thinning it out a bit as well. Nice to have the diff be able to work as a diff lol

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@damoknows1543 yea I think the likes of Kevin talbot have misconstrued what the average basher wants

[@stanmerck8242]

I've always heard you can't compare Traxxas weight numbers on diff fluids to ones like associate that are cst rated. That 20 million is probably like 1 million cst or maybe even 500k

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@stanmerck8242 that’s not even close. The TRX 20M is seriously thick

[@stanmerck8242]

@@dylanwhite6539 I'm running 1mill associate in my old truggy and had to spoon it out almost like silly putty, it's not really liquid at all. Is the Traxxas thicker than that?

[@joes4735]

Great review, unless you lied. Lol 😅 I dint know I have nether truck and trying to learn which to buy. I think I'm getting a Sledge now. I had 1st gen x-max and liked it but gears broke, tires ripped apart, and traxxas batteries sucked and swelled . That was 2016. I'm back for more. Still have my slash. I dumped so much money in threat turd I can't justify selling it

[@windrider65]

Nice video, my son is trying to talk me into taking up this hobby. I may have to drive down to that hobby shop. Thanks for sharing this.

[@outsourcedrc]

You should! Its a great hobby to get your kids into.

[@windrider65]

@@outsourcedrc my son is 37, and has 3 kids of his own. With a bad back this could work for me for a past time. I'm about 15 miles south of Athens, I'll have to take the wife's car, it gets much better mpg than my big van.

[@truerc]

Excellent comparison. Some just don't understand that when something is more expensive there's usually a reason for it. You have shown some of the reasons well.

[@truerc]

Who actually falls for this contact me, free sledge, and yt impersonation nonsense?

[@rooseveltrainesjr7618]

Sledge will be the next victim to my collection. I see the sledge need a bumper. An I will take that ese. Off an put a max 5 or 6 in. Well done trexxas. Beautiful design

[@gophop]

8:10 it's for preventing your driveshafts and shock shafts from getting sandblasted and pitted. Drive shafts will rust, shocks will leak otherwise.

[@mrallende007]

Traxxas Sledge seems to be a great RC. However, I was expecting the price to be between $699 to $749. I will make a decision on buying it based on your upcoming review and comparison to our favorite RC car the e-Revo 2.0.

[@blenderich]

19:00 Hey, man, go to the auto parts store and buy a canister of silicone oil. There are 5 different viscosities available. Get the canister for 30 dollars instead of 60 grams for the same price, and enjoy!

[@yungzoom4132]

Wow that's crazy ...that's the hobby shop I go 2 as well in Stockbridge...👌🏽👍

[@outsourcedrc]

Awesome! I’m usually there on Saturdays

[@yungzoom4132]

@@outsourcedrc yea I'm usually there 2 or 3 times a week smh lol

[@bigboytoyzrc9258]

Great presentation and review, man☝🏾

[@Madbusop718]

Wow first time in a long time I've watched a KZbin video until the end. What a great in depth video on two rc's that I wish I could buy. Thanks again for a great video. Stay blessed.

[@armando062212]

At 10:40 , it did fix the problem of the broken bolts, the wing mount looks and feels loose after a few hard landings. Just fixed mine and it broke wing, wing mount, shock mounting tower. Parts weren’t bad at all, we’ll see what’s next 😂