SSF4 AE: Combofiend (Guy) vs Poongko (Seth) - Crosscounter stream (Pre Evo 2011)

[@MBurrow08]

I knew Combofiend was good, but to do this to Poongko?!? Damn! He has always been one of my favorite players.

[@FiasaPower]

Anyone who plays as Guy at such high level deserves to be praised . It's so difficult to play well with him . Both are awesome players .

[@kumwagen]

this is a great match because it's all down to whoever can rush down faster, and isnt boring to watch at all

[@rotarydialz]

Got to respect players that win tournaments. They make a name for themselves and suddenly the world is watching and over-analyzing their every move. Evo should be a great tournament. I hope there is a lot of great footage collected.

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

After watching this whole thing, its good that Poongko caught this deficiency here. I had no idea Guy was his Kryptonite. Seemed like none of his usual rush down tactics worked, either because of hitbox issues (he dropped that riverdance so much he stopped doing it at the end of his combos) or he wasnt expecting that kind of priority on some of Guy's moves.

[@klumzyrice]

@xxdummyfreshful EVO is coming up this weekend. And I'm sure you can find the stream or links to the stream on the EVO website.

[@Than211]

Much appreciated for the upload. I was sad to hear that Combofiend was going to drop Guy for someone else (forgot to who) and I was very surprised that I got to see his Guy in action against none other than Poongko himself and did really well. There was some execution errors (I'm ass with execution myself) but he still managed to pull it off. Props to Combofiend for sticking with Guy at EVO.

[@WowImPregnant]

@xxdummyfreshful starts on friday and go all weekend..its gonna be streamed by teamspooky on justin tv

[@AcidGlow]

Great set.

[@porogramorian]

The end of the round between 14:00-15:00: 3 times Poongko went for a jump in after an SPD and 3 times Combofiend countered with EX Bushin kick

[@Raiden3651]

Respect for Combofiend repping Guy at EVO. Intense fight against FlashMetroid(the other Peter).

[@Setzer]

9-6 Combofiend in the end. I suspect if they kept playing Poongko would have evened the score, but both are really good players. I enjoyed watching it a lot because I've just recently picked up Seth and I'm starting to learn Guy as well. Very informative. I didn't know that you can't stop Guy in the corner...gotta remember this...

[@NatanWS]

@Phantom90xXx seeing how he missed everytime in the corner, I think guy's hitbox is a little diferent so the headstomps don't work. Too bad, so many resets and mix-ups oportunities lost because of that.

[@DanSSF4AE]

@Singe125 You are right He only force you to guess .. in the end he is just a regular player

[@DivineX9]

Excellent play from both. But DAMN, did Poong put in WORK!

[@RuLeZ1988]

@sinekonata From half of the Video you can see how Poongko is reading combofiends mind. It also looks like that Poongko didnt know the matchup against Guy that well. You see how poongko is trying to stomp after the spin kicks in the corner. Actually you cant stomp Guy cause of the weird hitbox he has. Also there is different timing into save jumps after you got a SPD. Near the end when poongko figured out this matchup he wanted to continue, but combofiend left ;).

[@SeraphicKnightX]

@RuLeZ1988 You can head stomp on Guy after hyakuretsu in the corner, it just requires specific timing. It's still not that hard to get all 3 stomps and the dive kick to connect you just have to leave more time between the first and second stomps.

[@grizant]

Mike Ross' "ooooo, got 'em" at 5:16 makes me laugh every time.

[@zajdabneeg]

Guy is a ninja. He has master the art of acrobatic technique. lol

[@MlninPricl]

After 5 wins Peter stopped playing as hard. He probably started to feel like he was crushing his spirit.

[@Putridprudential]

Combofiend .. greatest guy player in the world ? top 3 MvC players in the world ? he deserves some sorta award

[@the7thgymleader]

looks like poongko is asleep or just blazed out of his mind when he is playing... and i think guy is one of those secrectly good characters that no one knows much about

[@killzekat]

And for what you say about his quit when Poongko starts striking him, look at the video and you'll see that Combofiend Proposes his place to his partners many times... He already had enough.

[@g97erry]

Fun times!!! Thanks for posting!

[@VinceWhoWin]

poongko doesnt know the matchup, he was starting to adapt in the end

[@AcidGlow]

Poongko loves combos. He should play marvel.

[@amphitheatre]

damn poong got whipped at first, but after half a dozen losses, he can still adapt to the best counter-pick

[@killzekat]

@amkkma The last thing to say is that Combofiend is calm and even joking with his friends, not giving all his attention to the fight, but look at the sleppy face of Poongko, all in the battle. This is not a coincidence.

[@Speedygi81]

For some reason this just made me want to play SSF4 AE

[@RuLeZ1988]

@peffico You are right. Maybe i was to hyped for those pre Evo 11 matches ^^.

[@hectortd4]

i think at the beginning poongko didn't know the match up, you can clearly see how many times he missed his dive kicks followup on the corner like he didn't know it doesn't work on guy, plus he was trying to find ways to beat guy's ex kick i forgot what is called, he was adapting to guy as the session goes on.... that doesn't mean combofiend is ass..... he mad good with guy

[@heishin6]

this is a beating from Combofiend....nice footage....some crazy shyt!!

[@hamidious]

Lol, I didn't expect CF with Guy would kick the monstrous Poongko's Seth.

[@Radric33]

@mspencer0230 it's not about daigo vs poongko it's poongko's seth vs Yun. He simply bodies A LOT of top level yun players.

[@3sin7]

holy cow took me 5 times to write this comment on a phone.@Than211 combofiend switched over to makoto but since she got nerfed in the upcoming 2012 patch for the game while guy got buffs i can see combofiend sticking to guy.

[@RandomRads]

@x3azn4 ya...poongko has a strategy that a actual fighter executes in the ring.

[@Daiforme2]

Combofiend Perfected Poongko [5:05] noted down in history forever. such intense matches... two rush downs characters, first one to crack loses...

[@Singe125]

@neonvega You DO know that it wasn't just Poongko and Combofiend who played those matches? Poongko loses when his usual shit doesn't work. In this case, there's no headstomps. When he loses to Evil Elvis, it's because he can't FACD shoryu as a block string because Rose's backdash avoids it, along with a tandem engine. Poongko only wins because he forces you into situations where you're forced to guess, not to mention Seth's command grab and the best Shoryu in the game.

[@warmachine782]

@ClarenceSF4 no he was just missing them alot so he stopped doing it because he didnt wanna miss it and get punished

[@InfernoOmni]

19:10 was sick as shit.

[@BlakMastachief]

Poongko over here droppin combos like pennies at a drive thru

[@PainandMotivation]

Combo fiend is really killing it he is a sleeper in the tournament

[@x3azn4]

@rudhrakha nah its just poongko's headstomp fails on guy's hitbox, so he ends up in a bad position for various reasons. seth gets his powers when he corners you. Notice poongko always win when he drops the headstomp.

[@WBrizzle81]

Man, where was this when poongko was running through team USA at seasons beatings

[@Nexttimeillwin]

@Ruffies22 Toe taps work on Guy in the corner... it's just a really hard timing.

[@FutureSon311]

wow finally somebody who's on poongkos level...got tired of watching him win all the time although its quite entertaining 2 watch...and combofiend is a beast!!!

[@hurican310]

Combofiend is so good he doesn't need to see the screen to get a combo. 12:57

[@Nexttimeillwin]

@RuLeZ1988 You can do stomps on Guy after Hyakuretskyaku in the corner, it's just a really difficult timing.

[@RuLeZ1988]

@tukk3 Ok, nice info, didnt know that. I really would like to see how it would end, if combo didnt leave at the end. Poongko was really good at reading his mind through the end of this video.

[@SMUGDaBeast]

Combofiend looks like Drake with glasses

[@emjay-gaming]

@KyleKiwi if you do Guy's bushin combo while holding back on the roundhouse at the end it becomes a throw

[@DiegoQueirozBan]

poongko is a genius... really. Seth Players know well that Guy is a freaking pain in the ass...

[@3sin7]

anyways on the match great plays from both players. Korea and Guy represent! WHOOT! both are really offensive and since guy has more health than seth and both have a similar damage output i think thats why poongko lost quite a bit in the beginning. but guy is weak against grapplers and since seth has a special grab poonko figuresd it out and used it quite a bit in the latter half. last match was sick and lots of great stuff in this vid. nice upload.

[@tukk3]

@RuLeZ1988 Actually seth can do the stomps on guy in the corner.. the timing is just weird... and guy vs seth is actually a bad matchup for seth, so that was giving poongko trouble.. not to take anything away from combofiend tho...

[@krakatoa669]

Profound Sadness!

[@_Mustard]

Don't forget that you can't ask for extra match on actual EVO Poongko. :D

[@Kukzzzz]

It's not character specific, it's just harder on some - He has to walk a tiny bit forward before doing the jump in order for it to connect. I guess he didn't know at this point?

[@ShadowKyuubi2750]

i've never seen Poongko miss the dive kicks after a lighting legs at the corner so often. :-/

[@MultiplexityGaming]

Definately poongko pulling some punches in these match ups

[@phenxkurosaki]

@prefertoxic he can but since the stomps nerf the timing is really tight

[@onaled515]

man combofiend getting in his ass. wish they played each other in the tournament. i watched like 4 vids of poongko and he was running through people like diarrhea. its good to see a good match and see how really talented players adjust to challenges

[@Solesamurai]

It works but Guy has an awkward hitbox so you have to do it either faster or time it better.

[@ClarenceSF4]

Any idea why Poongko is missing the links after the (Down back Kick) move in the corner ? is it like a new vortex or something? lolz

[@Seaoftea]

Guy has a funny hit box when crumpled or juggled. A lot of stuff seems to wiff on him.

[@liltakifuego3993]

you can clearly see who lived with depression and who doesn't

[@darknewday4d]

wow,this was very interesting to watch.. has combofiend ever fought mago or daigo?

[@x3azn4]

@Nexttimeillwin thakx for noting, mustve took u some time, guess u play seth too hun?

[@WukongWilson]

yup very possible though, if they know the matchup

[@x3azn4]

@Nexttimeillwin yeah, i;ve oonly successfuly got the first two stomps, is it possible for all 4?

[@FiasaPower]

Combofiend gave an old school class. Short shorts!

[@happybirthdayshrek]

guys that wasnt poongko that was his twin brother

[@Kukzzzz]

[@WukongWilson]

hm after guys backthrow he should walk forward LITERALLY one centimeter and press hk immediately and then go for j.mk crossup, im pretty sure its safe and SUPER ambiguous as a crossup, sometimes it wont even crossup. but yeah i see ALOT of setups combofiend could be doing but he isnt :( maybe theres a reason..

[@sinekonata]

didn't keep the count but this looked to me like combofriend owning poongko

[@claxton923]

poongko kept messing up that corner stomp, how...?

[@1a2d09]

combofiend hacks :P

[@BrandonMurga]

Guy's hurtbox.

[@jimbo1983]

well, guy is evidently a good match up vs seth. just from his hit box alone, i seen a ton of damage and mixup taken away

[@yanguria6912]

Yup, Guy has a weird hitbox when hit in the air

[@Janitillo]

Ponngko vs Bananaken Pre-EVO2K11 was an amazing match Do you have that match?

[@Valorios]

@RuLeZ1988 well i think, you can say that for every player, cause every player plays different soooo gg to combofied

[@Janitillo]

@hedgehog547 no, it's combofiend...

[@terrabreakcity]

Is that Wolfkrone in the background? yeah! :)

[@x3azn4]

@rudhrakha and if u play seth u will find out that seth's regular headstomp fails on guy. try it in the corner. and you know why combofiend was happy to get away from a nostomp seth? cuz he's unhappy being played by poongko

[@peffico]

@RuLeZ1988 You are kidding right? There's at least twice through this whole match where he gets the stomps on combofiend. It's a different timing, but it can be done like stomping Cammy in the corner. The whole problem is though that Guy beats Seth fairly easily. 2 players at almost equal footing proving tiers right here. Also Combofiend is a beast too.

[@Siepher83]

LOL, around 12:30 did anyone hear Mike Ross vs Bryan Pumper in the background?

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

@supaboy47 I think he was getting cocky afterwhile. After the first few sets it looked like he started sandbagging, then when Poongko would take a set he'd crank it up again. Poongko didnt look like he knew the matchup, and Guy's hitbox is different, as well as his priority (tatsu got a lot of mileage). Poongko couldnt do stomps on him the way he normally does because they'd miss. It was just an all around bad matchup for Poongko. Had this been a tourney he'd have been done unless he switched.

[@LordDrakonya]

@Daiforme2 Yea cause that happens like once every 10 years , but asian players perfecting americans happens once every 10 minutes , so yeah you're right on this one.

[@chibi4Zatsu]

mike ross in yelling at poongko in just priceless

[@xxdummyfreshful]

when is evo comming and what website is going to be streaming it

[@aznxknight]

lmao some guy falls down in the background at 8:17 when poongko did a piledriver.

[@InfiniteGXT]

Poongko has been getting blown up by alot of americans on stream this week. I hope he can pull it together when the tournament starts >_

[@chisinjong]

poongko figured him out towards the end.

[@JinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJinJin]

@MistaGhost13 Lol, it was this. I watched the video and watched his face at most parts. His face doesn't hardly so much as change expression. Just the same...mouth open, blank look. XD And wait, do you think I was being serious? That's a joke. o_O

[@ManLyklew]

some absolutely ridiculous resets and tricks demonstrated by poongko! very nice matches, i feel as though he got used to combo's skill level as it progressed. combo's no slouch

[@ushiwakamaru30]

@drmario110 ah ok, I guess it doesn't work on Guy in the corner. That sucks. I think that's the major reason why he lost so bad.

[@LightningBS]

That Combofiend is a monster lol. 1:13 - 1:17 :O

[@dizzak101]

Poongko looks REALLY stoned in this stream

[@KingAlex93]

Mike ross in the back?

[@axelfighter15]

when I get nice with Guy, I swear I wanna participate in these events

[@Zenju__]

@ALELOCOOO It was FlashMetroid

[@slipjim]

when is evo 2k11? and where will it be streamed.