SSF4 AE: Combofiend (Guy) vs Poongko (Seth) - Crosscounter stream (Pre Evo 2011)

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[@MBurrow08]

I knew Combofiend was good, but to do this to Poongko?!? Damn! He has always been one of my favorite players.

[@Than211]

Much appreciated for the upload. I was sad to hear that Combofiend was going to drop Guy for someone else (forgot to who) and I was very surprised that I got to see his Guy in action against none other than Poongko himself and did really well. There was some execution errors (I'm ass with execution myself) but he still managed to pull it off. Props to Combofiend for sticking with Guy at EVO.

[@FiasaPower]

Anyone who plays as Guy at such high level deserves to be praised . It's so difficult to play well with him . Both are awesome players .

[@kumwagen]

this is a great match because it's all down to whoever can rush down faster, and isnt boring to watch at all

[@rotarydialz]

Got to respect players that win tournaments. They make a name for themselves and suddenly the world is watching and over-analyzing their every move. Evo should be a great tournament. I hope there is a lot of great footage collected.

[@klumzyrice]

@xxdummyfreshful EVO is coming up this weekend. And I'm sure you can find the stream or links to the stream on the EVO website.

[@AcidGlow]

Great set.

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

After watching this whole thing, its good that Poongko caught this deficiency here. I had no idea Guy was his Kryptonite. Seemed like none of his usual rush down tactics worked, either because of hitbox issues (he dropped that riverdance so much he stopped doing it at the end of his combos) or he wasnt expecting that kind of priority on some of Guy's moves.

[@WowImPregnant]

@xxdummyfreshful starts on friday and go all weekend..its gonna be streamed by teamspooky on justin tv

[@WBrizzle81]

Man, where was this when poongko was running through team USA at seasons beatings

[@SeraphicKnightX]

@RuLeZ1988 You can head stomp on Guy after hyakuretsu in the corner, it just requires specific timing. It's still not that hard to get all 3 stomps and the dive kick to connect you just have to leave more time between the first and second stomps.

[@g97erry]

Fun times!!! Thanks for posting!

[@NatanWS]

@Phantom90xXx seeing how he missed everytime in the corner, I think guy's hitbox is a little diferent so the headstomps don't work. Too bad, so many resets and mix-ups oportunities lost because of that.

[@DanSSF4AE]

@Singe125 You are right He only force you to guess .. in the end he is just a regular player

[@ClarenceSF4]

Any idea why Poongko is missing the links after the (Down back Kick) move in the corner ? is it like a new vortex or something? lolz

[@Radric33]

@mspencer0230 it's not about daigo vs poongko it's poongko's seth vs Yun. He simply bodies A LOT of top level yun players.

[@Setzer]

9-6 Combofiend in the end. I suspect if they kept playing Poongko would have evened the score, but both are really good players. I enjoyed watching it a lot because I've just recently picked up Seth and I'm starting to learn Guy as well. Very informative. I didn't know that you can't stop Guy in the corner...gotta remember this...

[@BlakMastachief]

Poongko over here droppin combos like pennies at a drive thru

[@x3azn4]

@Nexttimeillwin thakx for noting, mustve took u some time, guess u play seth too hun?

[@x3azn4]

@Nexttimeillwin yeah, i;ve oonly successfuly got the first two stomps, is it possible for all 4?

[@zajdabneeg]

Guy is a ninja. He has master the art of acrobatic technique. lol

[@emjay-gaming]

@KyleKiwi if you do Guy's bushin combo while holding back on the roundhouse at the end it becomes a throw

[@3sin7]

anyways on the match great plays from both players. Korea and Guy represent! WHOOT! both are really offensive and since guy has more health than seth and both have a similar damage output i think thats why poongko lost quite a bit in the beginning. but guy is weak against grapplers and since seth has a special grab poonko figuresd it out and used it quite a bit in the latter half. last match was sick and lots of great stuff in this vid. nice upload.

[@DivineX9]

Excellent play from both. But DAMN, did Poong put in WORK!

[@Kukzzzz]

It's not character specific, it's just harder on some - He has to walk a tiny bit forward before doing the jump in order for it to connect. I guess he didn't know at this point?

[@Nexttimeillwin]

@RuLeZ1988 You can do stomps on Guy after Hyakuretskyaku in the corner, it's just a really difficult timing.

[@Nexttimeillwin]

@Ruffies22 Toe taps work on Guy in the corner... it's just a really hard timing.

[@porogramorian]

The end of the round between 14:00-15:00: 3 times Poongko went for a jump in after an SPD and 3 times Combofiend countered with EX Bushin kick

[@DontActFaceFacts]

@x3azn4 ya...poongko has a strategy that a actual fighter executes in the ring.

[@Raiden3651]

Respect for Combofiend repping Guy at EVO. Intense fight against FlashMetroid(the other Peter).

[@ushiwakamaru30]

Is it just me or did Poongko miss so many headstomps in the corner that he practically stopped trying to do it altogether? Was he not able to concentrate or is headstomp difficult to perform on Guy? Cuz he was doing it just fine at first and then it all started to fall apart for him.

[@Speedygi81]

For some reason this just made me want to play SSF4 AE

[@MlninPricl]

After 5 wins Peter stopped playing as hard. He probably started to feel like he was crushing his spirit.

[@happybirthdayshrek]

guys that wasnt poongko that was his twin brother

[@sinekonata]

didn't keep the count but this looked to me like combofriend owning poongko

[@darknewday4d]

wow,this was very interesting to watch.. has combofiend ever fought mago or daigo?

[@RuLeZ1988]

@sinekonata From half of the Video you can see how Poongko is reading combofiends mind. It also looks like that Poongko didnt know the matchup against Guy that well. You see how poongko is trying to stomp after the spin kicks in the corner. Actually you cant stomp Guy cause of the weird hitbox he has. Also there is different timing into save jumps after you got a SPD. Near the end when poongko figured out this matchup he wanted to continue, but combofiend left ;).

[@ShadowKyuubi2750]

Really? I used to main Seth and I never knew that.. :-/ Which characters does his dive kicks not work on after his lightning legs?

[@heishin6]

this is a beating from Combofiend....nice footage....some crazy shyt!!

[@xxdummyfreshful]

when is evo comming and what website is going to be streaming it

[@phenxkurosaki]

@prefertoxic he can but since the stomps nerf the timing is really tight

[@amphitheatre]

damn poong got whipped at first, but after half a dozen losses, he can still adapt to the best counter-pick

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

@LordDrakonya I hope you're from Singapore or Japan or some other asian country.

[@slipjim]

when is evo 2k11? and where will it be streamed.

[@yanguria6912]

Yup, Guy has a weird hitbox when hit in the air

[@ShadowKyuubi2750]

i've never seen Poongko miss the dive kicks after a lighting legs at the corner so often. :-/

[@KingAlex93]

Mike ross in the back?

[@LordArion201]

why can't he do the seth corner combo against guy? is it character specific?

[@InfernoOmni]

19:10 was sick as shit.

[@claxton923]

poongko kept messing up that corner stomp, how...?

[@1a2d09]

combofiend hacks :P

[@BrandonMurga]

Guy's hurtbox.

[@x3azn4]

@rudhrakha and if u play seth u will find out that seth's regular headstomp fails on guy. try it in the corner. and you know why combofiend was happy to get away from a nostomp seth? cuz he's unhappy being played by poongko

[@tukk3]

@RuLeZ1988 Actually seth can do the stomps on guy in the corner.. the timing is just weird... and guy vs seth is actually a bad matchup for seth, so that was giving poongko trouble.. not to take anything away from combofiend tho...

[@FutureSon311]

wow finally somebody who's on poongkos level...got tired of watching him win all the time although its quite entertaining 2 watch...and combofiend is a beast!!!

[@x3azn4]

@rudhrakha nah its just poongko's headstomp fails on guy's hitbox, so he ends up in a bad position for various reasons. seth gets his powers when he corners you. Notice poongko always win when he drops the headstomp.

[@Phantom90xXx]

why does he keep missing the head stomp

[@grizant]

Mike Ross' "ooooo, got 'em" at 5:16 makes me laugh every time.

[@warmachine782]

@ClarenceSF4 no he was just missing them alot so he stopped doing it because he didnt wanna miss it and get punished

[@Speedygi81]

It took that long for Poongko to learn this matchup? Give credit to Combofiend for playing a very good set.

[@Siepher83]

LOL, around 12:30 did anyone hear Mike Ross vs Bryan Pumper in the background?

[@liltakifuego3993]

you can clearly see who lived with depression and who doesn't

[@PainandMotivation]

Combo fiend is really killing it he is a sleeper in the tournament

[@KyleKiwi]

5:40 Did he just combo into a grab?

[@VinceWhoWin]

poongko doesnt know the matchup, he was starting to adapt in the end

[@TheMessatsuKid]

Is that Mike Ross I hear

[@WukongWilson]

yup very possible though, if they know the matchup

[@RuLeZ1988]

@peffico You are right. Maybe i was to hyped for those pre Evo 11 matches ^^.

[@aznxknight]

lmao some guy falls down in the background at 8:17 when poongko did a piledriver.

[@hamidious]

Lol, I didn't expect CF with Guy would kick the monstrous Poongko's Seth.

[@B0uff0s]

is combo bk at sf4ae or was this just an exhibition match?

[@Seaoftea]

Guy has a funny hit box when crumpled or juggled. A lot of stuff seems to wiff on him.

[@Putridprudential]

Combofiend .. greatest guy player in the world ? top 3 MvC players in the world ? he deserves some sorta award

[@Solesamurai]

It works but Guy has an awkward hitbox so you have to do it either faster or time it better.

[@marcolaranja]

Poongko seem to get very overwhelmed when he loses, its just a game... or not?

[@the7thgymleader]

looks like poongko is asleep or just blazed out of his mind when he is playing... and i think guy is one of those secrectly good characters that no one knows much about

[@WukongWilson]

hm after guys backthrow he should walk forward LITERALLY one centimeter and press hk immediately and then go for j.mk crossup, im pretty sure its safe and SUPER ambiguous as a crossup, sometimes it wont even crossup. but yeah i see ALOT of setups combofiend could be doing but he isnt :( maybe theres a reason..

[@killzekat]

And for what you say about his quit when Poongko starts striking him, look at the video and you'll see that Combofiend Proposes his place to his partners many times... He already had enough.

[@chibi4Zatsu]

mike ross in yelling at poongko in just priceless

[@hectortd4]

i think at the beginning poongko didn't know the match up, you can clearly see how many times he missed his dive kicks followup on the corner like he didn't know it doesn't work on guy, plus he was trying to find ways to beat guy's ex kick i forgot what is called, he was adapting to guy as the session goes on.... that doesn't mean combofiend is ass..... he mad good with guy

[@hurican310]

Combofiend is so good he doesn't need to see the screen to get a combo. 12:57

[@BlassKain17]

what was the final score? 9-10 combofiend?

[@Singe125]

@neonvega You DO know that it wasn't just Poongko and Combofiend who played those matches? Poongko loses when his usual shit doesn't work. In this case, there's no headstomps. When he loses to Evil Elvis, it's because he can't FACD shoryu as a block string because Rose's backdash avoids it, along with a tandem engine. Poongko only wins because he forces you into situations where you're forced to guess, not to mention Seth's command grab and the best Shoryu in the game.

[@ShinSUREYOUCAN]

I don't know why Poongko was pulling DP without FADC meter, and the wake up ultras... is he even trying?

[@ChikoWhat]

I noticed he threw a lot of unsafe DPs, maybe just psyching and guaging the competition?

[@shounen005]

do i hear Mike "I was the youngest one there" Ross

[@Luminated]

is guy just a counter pick to seth? or is combo just really fuckn good in this vid?

[@MultiplexityGaming]

Definately poongko pulling some punches in these match ups

[@krakatoa669]

Profound Sadness!

[@Kukzzzz]

[@terrabreakcity]

Is that Wolfkrone in the background? yeah! :)

[@ushiwakamaru30]

@drmario110 ah ok, I guess it doesn't work on Guy in the corner. That sucks. I think that's the major reason why he lost so bad.

[@SMUGDaBeast]

Combofiend looks like Drake with glasses

[@fullbloodednarutofan]

WHEN AND WHAT TIME IS EVO?@?@?@?@?

[@FiasaPower]

Combofiend gave an old school class. Short shorts!

[@RuLeZ1988]

@tukk3 Ok, nice info, didnt know that. I really would like to see how it would end, if combo didnt leave at the end. Poongko was really good at reading his mind through the end of this video.

[@amkkma]

why do people keep talking like it was some serious destruction or something? it went 9-6 combo's favor, and he just stops playing when poongko starts streaking him, in the beginning it was like 7-1 then it got to 9-6, so who knows if combofiend would really win if he played more, i just think its kinda unfair if you just stop when you start losing, even more when the other player asks you to play more.

[@Gamekingz0r1]

is it me or is Poongko looking a bit nervous the first couple of matches

[@Zenju__]

@ALELOCOOO It was FlashMetroid

[@chisinjong]

poongko figured him out towards the end.

[@_Mustard]

Don't forget that you can't ask for extra match on actual EVO Poongko. :D

[@AcidGlow]

Poongko loves combos. He should play marvel.