Ovariotomy - Past Medical Scandals and The WPATH Files - Part 2

[@missanne2908]

In the US the FDA approved the use of Lupron ped in 1993 for central precocious puberty. At that time, doctors started prescribing it off label for girls who had normally timed puberty but may end up too short. There already is a population of women who have suffered the effects of puberty blockers, and they are having problems such as osteopenia, osteoporosis, depression and fibromyalgia in their twenties. They have created their own Facebook group but nobody wants to study these women because of what it will show us will happen to the population that we are already treating for ROGD.

[@robertmarshall2502]

Is there a name for this cohort or a way of finding out more?

[@missanne2908]

@@robertmarshall2502 I found it in an article. It stated: The FDA is also reviewing deadly seizures stemming from the pediatric use of Lupron and other drugs in its class. While there are other drugs similar to Lupron, it is a market leader and thousands of women have joined Facebook groups or internet forums in recent years claiming that Lupron ruined their lives or left them crippled. I'm going to put the name of the article and the URL in two separate messages in case one or both will be deleted. BTW, I took a drug similar to Lupron, Synarel, as an adult for endometriosis, and even taking it only for six months, yes, it permanently lowered my quality of life.

[@missanne2908]

@@robertmarshall2502 This was from a 2017 article from _Stat_ titled 'Drug used to halt puberty in children may cause lasting health problems.'

[@robertmarshall2502]

@@missanne2908 I only just got round to reading this article it was fascinating in a dark way and filled in another piece of the puzzle. It seems like the makers of these drugs really have been pushing to find a way to make profit from them with different groups men, women, children. I remember the original Dutch protocol study received money from a company which produces it. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks.

[@TheQueenOfDreams]

Such an important deep dive into this relevant, scandalous episode in recent medical and cultural history. I hope we never return to a period where having ovaries makes us personal property or fodder for medical experiments. Mental illness is real, and we need proven therapy for anyone who suffers such torment, and protections so that they are not used to line the pockets of such medical and pharmaceutical monsters. Thank you to all that you do to further educate and assist the public at large on the pressing correlation to these historical nightmares and what we are witnessing today. You’re doing such important work, at such a pressing hour. May God bless and protect you all.

[@ameliachameleon]

Stella, you are so gracious and kind and conscientious... all ways always.

[@ameliachameleon]

(If you follow me)

[@beemacs7282]

Brilliant discussion, great work Mia, thank you all 👏👏👏

[@HebaruSan]

Dr. Mendoza is such a great fit for her role.

[@FronteirWolf]

A bit like anti depressants nowadays, doctors give them out, and some patients find them helpful, and doctors think they help, but no one knows how they help. We thought we knew with the chemical inbalance theory, but now it's in the open that it's nonsense, it's like " we'll keep doing it, it helps, but we don't know exactly what we're doing with these meds"

[@missanne2908]

Read _Crazy Like Us_ by Ethan Watters. There is a whole chapter on how Paxil was marketed to Japan in the 1990s. First they had to market to the Japanese the West's version of depression. Then they had to market the idea that taking an antidepressant was actually a good thing to do.

[@KimVanHONK]

So I take anti depressants for OCD. And I know they work. People who suffer from OCD know there is no placeboing your way out of that. If I take them I have zero symptoms and no side effects from the medication, if I don't I can go into my obsessions so far as to have a psychotic episode. It's apparent I'm one of the lucky people, because they don't show the same glorious results on everyone and there should be more research. But when I was young I didn't want to take medications because I bought into the fact they were bad and I ruined about 10 years of my life. I started taking them convinced It wasn't going to work and I would turn into a zombie but one day I woke up and realized I was symptom free.....so be really careful with statements like this because it's not the same and it this mindset can actually damage people.

[@heatherchapman1984]

Can we please get a link to that "Shannon Beaushee" the canadian father of an ROGD Daughter who has a Substack that Mia mentioned?

[@estelarodriguez3611]

Thank you for this video.

[@Gingerblaze]

Oophorectomy?

[@missanne2908]

One thing that wasn't fully explained about symptom pools is how doctors tend to disregard patients who don't fit the current symptom pool. I had menstrual migraines for years, but unlike most women who had such migraines mine happened on day six after the start of my period. I asked my doctor if were there any other women who had migraines immediately following their periods and he said no, it's always before their periods. Obviously he was not going to report that he had a patient whose symptoms followed her period; I wonder how many doctors disregarded other women who had post menstrual migraines because they did not concur with the known symptom pool?

[@4651adri]

They have no idea about menstruations. Another thing is clitoridis anatomy. We're still finding out new things about both and we're in 2024. Women are simply the 'other', not the default.

[@sahelichowdhury]

Well, I have postmenstrual migraines too, generally day 6 and 7, but not every month, only some months, so it could be connected to some issue with one of my ovaries, I don't know. There is no known issue anyway. And I don't tell this to doctors because of getting disregarded. The first time I mentioned it was when I was very young, probably 13 or 14, and the doctor claimed that it would resolve once my period was 'established'. The problem is that my period was already quite established at that time, and now, 15 years later, the same issue remains.

[@karenavey2183]

I have a rare disease called Progesterone Sensitivity Skin Syndrome …entirely debilitating for a week each month. My ex-doctor told me ‘this doesn’t exist’. I had to fire him in order to get treatment from someone else although have not been successful.

[@sahelichowdhury]

@@karenavey2183 I hope you can manage it better now 🙏🏻 Being in pain a week every month is so painful in itself.

[@ruperterskin2117]

Appreciate ya. Thanks for sharing.

[@theway5563]

Good day, lovely ladies with integrity and professionalism. Love to you all and wish you many blessings from the font of blessings.

[@kirbythompson5851]

WPATH has had this information this entire time and I know for sure that they have excuses prepared by their think tanks from the beginning.

[@FronteirWolf]

Well I suppose they would have been correct when they were dealing with a woman with severe premenstrual syndrome, or other problems like that. And that may account for some of the times where it seemed to help, so they didn't have a completely wrong idea, but it was mostly wrong.

[@Nicole-ww4lg]

the status and money involved in doctoring reinforces this god complex that has completely jettisoned ethics. many also aren't willing to give up the status and money to stand up for ethics. it is a vicious circle. especially in america, the only place on earth with a for profit healthcare system. sadly, even the rest of the world didn't seem to remember informed consent or right to refuse or why we ended up with the idea of medical ethics boards in the first place.

[@Ihsaan1c]

Ovariotomy is the opening of the ovaries. Removal of ovaries is oophorectomy.

[@syzygy4702]

Is thalidomide on the list of past medical scandals?

[@robertmarshall2502]

I don't remember reading it in the Wpath files. If you go to the document itself then you can find the 4 case studies she uses. That part is concise and only takes a few pages. Plus the whole Wpath files thing is fascinating in a macabre way Edit: P53 Lobotomy P57 Ovariotomy P61 Apotemnophilia (amputation of healthy limbs) P65 Engineering Children's Height With Hormones

[@catherinerobilliard7662]

Now I know where the phrase denoting something absurd “It’s batty” comes from.

[@petiadavis5122]

Couldn't agree more with Mia, re the phaloplasty. It sounds like a barbaric form of torture if anything

[@linderlindest5373]

Surgery without modern anesthesia!