OVER / UNDER! 2022 NITRO Z21 XL PRO BUILD REVIEW (:0)

OVER / UNDER! 2022 NITRO Z21 XL PRO BUILD REVIEW (:0)
Johnny Morris' pride and joy is on the chopping block this week and here it is, the new 2022 Z21 XL PRO. What do y'all think? OVERPRICED or UNDERVALUED?
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[@zacharyziroll6929]

You should consider doing this series with 19'/19'6" boats since they're a little more budget friendly for the weekend guys and I'm sure many people would love to see it. If you decide to you should do an over under on a Bass Cat Pantera Classic

[@burneraccount9253]

I agree with you Andy. They come with a lot of goodies on a junk hull.

[@ipsdrew]

We need an Over/Under for the 2022 Skeeter ZXR20!

[@tannerherrington8914]

yes yes yes. more my price point compared to the FXR

[@wg1611]

I agree.

[@dustinpitts2741]

Yes I agree it’s a great price on a good built boat

[@TeamMarineService]

What do you guys think? OVERPRICED or UNDERVALUED

[@richardparker8619]

Undervalue

[@Kdavis8377]

Overpriced. Fiberglass work is awful. Quality isn’t worth the 10k less you pay

[@moosedriverc17]

Overpriced! My Phoenix 721 (granted only have a 12 Helix at console/Helix 15 at bow w/ DI SI 360/dual raptors/250 Pro XS) for 75 out the door! Can’t beat the ride, or performance!

[@mp5kfisher241]

Can i get a 30yr loan on this sweet piece of fishability? I only make $20,400 per year.

[@The-bourbon-angler]

Overpriced, way Overpriced. The quality of nitros are so piss poor I can't wrap my head around that price. I have a fully loaded falcon tournament edition and paid 20k less

[@hle3740]

Good Over/Under. Andy, you got a mention at the Tackle Warehouse Title Event Weigh in yesterday. I was watching live stream and Adrian Avena talked about Team Marine and Suzuki outboards

[@TeamMarineService]

Thanks buddy! Yeah Adrian is a great guy and always stops by the shop to say Hi when he's in town.

[@traviswyattfishing3287]

In May of 2018 I bought my Nitro Z18 with the Mercury 175 2 stroke and a tandem axle trailer. At the time it was the most boat I could get my hands on for the price that I was looking to pay. $34,000 out the door with 9” graphs on the console and bow. I bought it from an independent dealer. Working with Bass Pro sucked. So instead I drove 6 hours away to go get it. The only real issue I have had with this boat have been with the Mercury eating belts and I had to replace the oil tank twice but that was my own fault. All In all the only complaint I have about this boat is the carpet is junk, and the seat letters tear out. So after replacing those we shall see how long they last. All in all, for a $34,000 boat I am happy with it’s performance.

[@andyhauser9327]

Johnny's finest!

[@mr.diyhowtopaintingwelding4479]

My 2014 z7 still going like a champ

[@TeamMarineService]

Great to hear!

[@stevemolina8801]

I have driven Nitros but never owned one so I will refrain from quality comments, But! I have a Bass Pro 20 minutes from my house and if you go there with your boat questions you wont get answers, why. The people who are selling them dont own Bass Boats so the only way they can answer anything is referring to the build sheet or saying I will get back to you. I have owned Champions and Bass Cats. A little story, is 2012 a buddy of mine and I started the west Coast Bass cat owners tournament on the California Delta. Ca didn't even have a dealer at the time. Ya know who showed up at our tournament! None other than Rick Pierce! Here is the president of the company who flew 1400 miles to go to a tournament that was run by two guys who he never heard of! Bass Cats for life!

[@TeamMarineService]

Spot on about the first comment and that is SOOO awesome that Rick flew out for that. That stuff matters and is not only a testament to the company but the man himself! GREAT to hear!

[@captnbass2]

Good over/ under and completely agree ….. now how about some of that footage from you at gambler.

[@texoma_outdoors]

Nitro is the F150 ecobust of bass boats. Built an empire on selling stripped down underpowered rigs but advertising them as cheaper than fully rigged. Incidentally I saw a memo from Mercury saying using a lithium starting battery would void the warranty but this boat came with one?

[@TeamMarineService]

Weird isn't it? We were thinking the same thing!

[@deanpappas9207]

Overall boat ergonomics setup on the Z21 is one of the best in the industry, the boat is fast and fun to run. It has the best deck space in the fishing boat, great for team events. Absolutely love the lay out of the deck, and how simple everything is on this boat. Easiest boat to run wires in for electronics. Now the bad side, if they would just take time building these boats with improving the gel coat, strengthening the over all haul of the boat so it would not crack while running tournaments it would be rated so much higher by tournament anglers. The trailer bunks carpet scratches the bottom of the hull every time you load the boat since they changed the carpet to more of a poly base, and the bunks are never screwed in tight to the trailer, which you will need to finish screwing when it arrives. When you are at Cabelas or Bass Pro Shops look under the bunks and looks how the bunks are screwed in. Also, good to take out the back trays look at how the gas tank screws are aligned to make sure they are done right. 1 Warranty really does suck and dealing with the White River Marine group not the easiest thing to do. Rate this boat 7 out of 10. Would have been higher but the quality of the inside of the boat is cheap, expect issues over time.

[@Dropshot1]

Thyre cheap boats. You knew what you were by and don’t complain after the fact and wish they did it a different way. That’s what you bought.

[@f550lover]

I love the series! My wish list is that you would cover a fish and ski category. Ranger 212 reata, nitro z19 sport, charger 475, etc

[@richardparker8619]

Your going to hate today’s comments…. LOL

[@TeamMarineService]

Haha!

[@shaenhosie3407]

You should learn more about phoenix. Hand made good quality. Check out their plant in Winchester Tennessee

[@kirkreusch8415]

That was painful for you Andy, wasn’t it? Realistic, how long will it last compared to better quality built boats? It’s a “bargain” comparatively speaking but if it doesn’t last and you are searching for another new boat at $80,000+ long before you really should have to. Love the channel.

[@TeamMarineService]

A lot of it boils down to the owner. If you run her hard and put her away wet you are gonna have problems within a year of heavy hard use. We've seen problems with brand new rigs and 3-4 years old ones. They start to show their ugly side around then.

[@mp5kfisher241]

Matt Black wheel’s? Is that a brand of wheels? The manufacture?

[@TeamMarineService]

Matte black like the color. 👍🏻

[@mp5kfisher241]

Team Marine Service LMAO!! I know, i was just messing with you guys! 😂🤣

[@lonniesimmonds2294]

When is the champion projects going to be showed?

[@dcsnick1]

It’s a Nitro. It overpriced before looking at the video.

[@TeamMarineService]

Hahaha!

[@tyrolfb]

Thanks Andy. I could see in your face what you really feel about this boat. I need to go find $10k

[@TeamMarineService]

Most definitely!!!

[@amarcotte16]

Can you do a over/under on a nitro ZV20 - ZV21?

[@stevenjanuchowski5578]

Can you do an over/ under on Skeeter zxr 20

[@TeamMarineService]

Most definitely!

[@michaelskenadore2282]

Love your videos, but I wish the companies that you always talk about that are the small family companies that build the great boats with the great customer service would make walleye boats also not just bass boats. I would love to buy a ballistic or gambler or something like that in a Walleye boat beacuse I basically just fish the bay of Green Bay and lake Michigan.

[@wejruf25]

Yarcraft is the boat you should look at then. Basscat & Rick Pierce build them

[@TeamMarineService]

We feel ya, there are some fine options in that world. Stay tuned for the multi species OVER / UNDERS in the near future

[@michaelskenadore2282]

@@TeamMarineService can't wait for those.

[@bigbassgang8345]

do a 721 pro xp! mines 81k LOADED coming next week.

[@aaronconatser9640]

Can you do skeeter ZXR20

[@TeamMarineService]

Definitely, as soon as Skeeter releases their new pricing

[@jamesbest5149]

What about Vexus?

[@usernamessuck6]

Thank you for the video's, and straight honest reviews. I am going to pick up a 2022 model Z21 pro from the "big box store", that didn't sell. I also worry about the service after the sale. My previous boat was a Skeeter, and loved it. My Skeeter was a 2011. My only comparison is from a 2011 Skeeter to a 2022 Nitro. Keep posting videos!

[@jordanlessard2208]

Overpriced!

[@mp5kfisher241]

Does NITRO = INTRO? As in a first boat, intro into bASS fishin?

[@TeamMarineService]

That's a good way to look at it haha!

[@mp5kfisher241]

Team Marine Service 😂😂😂

[@adamclift880]

Maybe I got a good one. 2014 z7 nitro with a 175. My boat will run 70. Handles rough waters good. And I have beat the shot out of it for 7 years. And boat itself. No issues. The Mercury not impressed. But been really happy with mine. I see like the seats and carpet kinda cheap.

[@adamclift880]

Additional comment. Trailers r trash for nitro.

[@kmby1531]

70 with a 175 huh , ok

[@TeamMarineService]

Hey ya got a good one Adam. Glad its holding up well for ya

[@Ptro1]

@@kmby1531 maybe he meant kmh and not mph 😂

[@turboss08]

Dang, my 2021 z19 barely touches 70 with a 4s Pro XS 200. I actually love the boat itself and scored a great deal on it. The trailer on the other hand... My 5 year old could weld together a better 'trailer' than this giant POS.

[@chrishampton8842]

Video on Basscat Lynx please

[@TeamMarineService]

Deal!

[@edwardcowan7012]

10 years from know your going to wish you dropped another 10K

[@TeamMarineService]

Soooooo true!

[@mandogfish7418]

Is Ranger still a good boat?

[@TeamMarineService]

We wouldn't buy a new one if it were us

[@mandogfish7418]

@@TeamMarineService if it were you, what would you buy now?

[@jabojr5171]

Nothing is affordable today. With inflation going crazy and steel going through the roof, we will all pay more, thanks for the vid.

[@adamportner8102]

I'm so torn they look like they are made better than they used to be. Wondering if we are all holding a grudge against the older pieces of garbage they used to make. I'm wondering if the hull quality and hardware has gotten better? 🤷‍♂️

[@davidegeland2380]

Facebook nitro hooked hulls.

[@adamportner8102]

@@davidegeland2380 ?

[@davidegeland2380]

@@adamportner8102 if your on Facebook look up nitro hooked hulls. That will let you know build quality.

[@TeamMarineService]

We've seen new models and it ain't pretty!

[@adamportner8102]

@@TeamMarineService good to know

[@tannerherrington8914]

we need a ZXR20, I really do think its the best price for a 20 footer in todays market.

[@TeamMarineService]

Happening very soon! We've got a ton of requests for it.

[@danieldix7669]

The only reason most of the guys i know, or i would go with nitro, is to get in a boat 10-15 k less than other boats, and fish the contingency out… which JM has pretty good contingencies honestly… then trade up in 4 years. Never expecting reliability after that point.

[@TeamMarineService]

Oh we believe it Daniel! It's sad but understandable

[@adamportner8102]

The thing that stinks for me is I'm in New Jersey and there is a ton of bassboat owners but only 1 nitro dealer and I think one other brand newer dealer way south NJ over an hour from me if not 2. I don't know what brand. So customer service sucks for all bassboats in Nj. It also seams like many boat marinas here just hate us bassboat guys. I don't know why.

[@mr.diyhowtopaintingwelding4479]

Is there a boat you actually like?

[@TeamMarineService]

Gambler,ballistic,blazer,basscat,Phoenix (for the most part) the 2019 FX model skeeter and 2020

[@mr.diyhowtopaintingwelding4479]

@@TeamMarineService what about the aea ark bass boats

[@lancemabry6707]

I'd spend same amount of money, or a little less, and put it in a new Falcon.. Great owner, great company. The owner of the company told me NOT to order a boat and wait til October this year for the new one to come out!! Who does that??? Honestly???

[@TeamMarineService]

We've chatted with the Falcon guys, we approve!

[@stu1058]

Good principal to live life by: if it sounds too good to be true…it probably is.

[@allencasal]

Biggest thing with Nitro is buy it from a private boat dealer not Bass pro or Cabelas

[@davidegeland2380]

Do you get a better built boat buying from someone else?

[@TeamMarineService]

No but they will take care of you when you have issues far better and faster that BPS or Bela's

[@turboss08]

My 2021 Z19 Pro is already back at the dealership. 500 miles on the trailer and they ordered 2 new complete axles, brake lines, master and actuator. I thank the lord that I bought from a trusted local dealer rather than BPS.

[@JimbobZ17]

Bought mine from bass pro 2 years ago because it was discounted $4,000 after the first of the year. Whatever they cleaned the boat with caused the steering wheel to peel off and our local dealer helped me with the warranty. They will have my business from now on. So far no other issues with the boat. It’s paid for and good enough for me. Z17 for $24,000. I don’t fish tournaments and fish a lot by myself don’t see paying anymore for a new boat.

[@klfer]

I never here anything good about Nitros. But in reality everything that you get for the boat are not nitro products. So how bad is a nitro? I agree under valued. I think you should add to the over/under (trade it or keep it). I feel you should trade the nitro every few years, where if you buy a Ballistic you keep it. lol

[@TeamMarineService]

Thats a great idea! Yes we agree with what ya said there. In our opinion Nitro's are made with the cheapest materials and are made in the least amount of time with the least attention to detail because of that.

[@mediaspeedfilms1334]

Bass pro shop junk!

[@stevebrimer1257]

So When Are We Going To See A Gambler OVER/UNDER?

[@evanshillcoxfishing7929]

Agree

[@TeamMarineService]

Very soon Steve, it's all shot and edited! ;)

[@garrystaggs3078]

As a former Nitro owner .. lost boat to a busted transom I don't care . I would buy a 20 year old Ranger hull before I buy a new nitro hull

[@parker02722]

Over/under for BassCat Eyra!

[@TeamMarineService]

You got it Parker!

[@brettmontey8762]

I liked the way you described your decision. Pretty much nitro boats are the dodge ram of boats. You get a lot of add on but everything is cheap.

[@TeamMarineService]

We'd personally say it's like the Ford F150 but we get the analogy! Haha

[@JimbobZ17]

@@TeamMarineService so your saying best made .

[@Dbars19]

I refuse to touch anything johnny morris is involved in. I bought my used ranger with Forests name on the side and feel good about it. Sadly my next new boat "retirement" boat will be Skeeter or warrior...

[@TeamMarineService]

We feel ya Dbars!

[@deltabass9697]

My nitro is officially paid for now so let's hope it's not junk 😬

[@TeamMarineService]

Any boat that's paid off is perfect in our opinion. 👍🏻

[@dustinpitts2741]

Can’t do it too much for that boat

[@kevinflabouyfishing5739]

There trying to make it fancy but guarantee in the 1st year it will turn to more headaches 🤦‍♂️🤯🤭

[@TeamMarineService]

#truth!

[@charliesmith9528]

Instead of constantly criticizing Nitro Boats why dont you do INFORMATIVE on how much these new bass boats actually cost,,not retail but a build sheet of actual cost to build motor,,actual cost to build boat of any brand,,,i have looked and called hundreds of places,,its a big secret the boat industry keeps under raps...NO WAY a Ranger or Nitro should cost more than three passenger cars,,,a new 250 is 25k,,,a brand new engine for a ford truck is 7800...closest to truth about materials and labor cost came from a drunk boat dealer one night at a bar,,he said tv and media costs are responsible for most of the high price,,he said a 60k nitro rig with a 250 actually costs about 29k,,,

[@TeamMarineService]

We know what price we pay as a Suzuki dealer for a new 250, so we have an idea on how much they have into it. As far as the rig itself we also have a good understanding on material and labor costs. Fact of the matter is the consumers are paying that high price each and every year pushing the prices up higher and higher. You pay for the craftsmanship and quality of the materials and products that go into it. Companies like Ballistic, Gambler, Bullet and Allison to name a few all use the best materials money can buy and have the most attention to detail and top notch engineering in the industry. They're focus is on quality and you cannot put a price on that. They are the ones that deserve that 80k price tag, not Nitro! They probably are made for 20k at most and are selling for 80k because the market allows them to be. People work hard for their money and to spend it with a conglomerate company that's only focus is to get as many out the door as possible in the shortest amount of time, well...that doesn't sit right with us. At the end of the day it is all about margins & profit. Ya gotta keep the employees paid and the lights on.

[@charliesmith9528]

@@TeamMarineService I have a friend who in directly works for Bass Pro,,he said this year he woudnt suggest anyone buy a boat built during the past 12 months as their factories have been forced to make so many boats..makes sense that quality gets thrown to wayside to make quotas,,it makes no sense that a 17 ft bass boat is 30k and a 19 is 48k..im to beleive that 2 feet more of boat cost that much,,Ranger also has a lower priced 17 ft boat with same pricing scheme as nitro,,i do know nitro boats first came out i seen many of them basically fall apart after being on santee cooper lakes,,

[@cheyennejankowski79]

The price is good as you say for what you get, but, if you know they have issues and you wouldn't buy it.... IT's overpriced......The JM business model is not built around individual relationship's, unless you have a big name and or Big money. The other quality boat companies and the only way to run a company is built around individual relationship's regardless of who you are. Each customer matters. JM each average customer is just a number and a sku....

[@TeamMarineService]

You've said it best Cheyenne! You are 100% correct!!!

[@allencasal]

Thats a lot of equipment for $85 especially with Lithium batteries

[@TeamMarineService]

Sure is!

[@Kdavis8377]

Nitro trailers are the junkiest trailers on the road. Period. End of discussion. Go ahead and buy new bearing seal covers, bearings and grease to grease that loud trailer that pops and creaks on every turn you make.

[@TeamMarineService]

Most Definitely Kevin!

[@Michaelpruis]

Can't stand the way the hull looks from the profile... just looks weird and huge. The new triton where you can flush mount 2 12's is more 'interesting'

[@danlaur7973]

86kfor a Nitro? I'll pass thank you

[@carlbraucht5542]

I agree Nitro quality is s#$t carpet and gel coat fades within a year and if you look at the top cap ,you will see bleed over where they shot on the glitter everywhere even the pin striping is crooked with bleed over

[@scottduck5839]

Will you do the charger 210 elite?

[@theduffster2581]

The same ranger I mean nitro will be around 100 k lol 😂

[@TeamMarineService]

🤣🤣🤣

[@FishMD]

Every single bass boat made to date is overpriced

[@bradleykegley3373]

This is a slow boat I can tell you that much

[@venkust]

your vids are difficult to watch, too many interruptions and goofing off

[@TeamMarineService]

Fair Enough! How many have ya watched by chance?

[@venkust]

@@TeamMarineService about 6

[@joezelahi8541]

Nitro has a piss poor live well pumps and push button control switch that controls all the pumps it's a boat it gets wet and immediately shorts out the entire pumps system my son's dream boat becomes a $65,000 dollar piece of shit , thanks Nitro engineering

[@joezelahi8541]

And by the way ITS BRAND NEW BOUGHT IT FROM BASS PRO SHOP IN PONTIAC MICHIGAN A MONTH AND HALF AGO !!!!!

[@cheetoz6902]

I would rather fish off my own turdcfloating in my toilet . Nitro blows

[@TeamMarineService]

HAHAHAHA

[@mp5kfisher241]

Brown Bass?

[@Dropshot1]

Nitros are junk. The trailers are junk.