Overclocking DDR5 RAM Hynix A-die on AMD Ryzen and Gigabyte: Guide, for RAM overclocking

[@johnsmith-f1y]

Finally a guide with simple explanations and no fillers, much appreciated.

[@jinsk8r]

Thank you for this informative video. Moving from DDR4 to DDR5 is a right choice as overclockability is much better and easier.

[@Justdigit2]

Best overocking guide out here.... With buildzoid settings it couldn't pass prime torture test.... Now it can. Thanks dude.

[@SAFFY7411]

This is a fantastic guide. I have a 7200 kit which I picked up knowing it's A-die but I didn't have the 6000MT/s settings. And as others have said, Buildzoid's easy timings as well as A-die specific timings didn't work for me. I ran 4 passes of memtest86 to diagnose the kit, it passed. I then dialed in these settings they work well as well as passing 3 cycles of Memtest5 (extreme anta777 - 90 mins) and 60 mins of Y Cruncher. I'm not sure if my 7500F will be able to do the 6200 speed but I will try that later. Thanks. Edit: 6200C28 works also, lowering the voltages slightly and it is unstable. But I'm glad it works. 👍

[@losnamerales3403]

This is an advanced Ram overclock for beginners 👍🏾nice work, great reference video to help understand advanced OC techniques 💯

[@generalawareness101]

Awesome, my dude. Thank you.

[@guyva_unito_sree3]

good tuning guide, you confirm my experience in this stuff and know more than me. my 1% low fps is better in far cry 6 benchmark by 9 fps if i leave tRFC on auto 943 in particular, not sure about the rest of the timings under it as i left them all on auto, and my latency is 61ns or so, very close to your 59ns. but then i should mention OCd my ram to 6400MT with UCLK=MCLK1:1, 2133 infinity fabric, no gear down, no power down, fast boot off, a lot of other miscellaneous settings off like virtualization and secure boot off and the setting needed for windows 11 to even install i turned off(trusted platform module off, since im told these things cause performance issues) and im on windows 24H2 with some windows tweaks as well. i dont feel like checking how much higher i can go on these things for now, like 6600MT etc. im using a 9600X cpu on b650e taichi lite. the taichi lite has an option under the ram's module vendor's expo profiles to choose from "amd's agesa", "competitive" and "aggressive" which seem to manipulate all the sub timings to those respective performance grades to be tighter and i chose Aggressive.

[@sonicfraude9836]

where are the programs?

[@rickss69]

There is no link for the software package...

[@danytoob]

Hello! I enjoyed your guide, but am really looking forward to the next one you mentioned, for DDR5 Hynix M-Die. I have 32GB (2x16) GSkill Flair 6000 (M-Die), with enabled EXPO (32-38-38-96). MB is Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX, Ryzen 7700X. I used Gigabyte Control Center (bad software! lol) and with it set memory to 6200. BIOS shows that too, but I'm not really convinced it is accurate. System has not crashed so I believe it quite stable. Anyway, thank you for your hard work and will keep an eye out for your next video. I am new to overclocking so really need guides like your to help me. Take care...bye!

[@onoverclock]

Hello, thank you for the kind words, there is a manual on my channel for hynix m-de , you can watch this guide if you are interested

[@danytoob]

@@onoverclock Hi again Dakar ... I see your Hynix M-die video guide for Intel, but I don't see one for Ryzen with Hynix M-die. Am I missing it?

[@onoverclock]

@@danytoob You can take the guide for Hynix A-die and apply memory settings for Hynix M-die, taking into account the peculiarities of Ryzen. Unfortunately, I cannot create two guides for each platform as it is time-consuming.

[@danytoob]

@@onoverclock OK ... I just thought I heard you say you were about to release a guide for Ryzen with Hynix M-die. My mistake ... I guess.

[@sodapopinksi667]

It works. I just kept my voltage at 1.35. It crashed when I went too low. Good enough for now.

[@justADeni]

I successfully applied this guide to my 2x16GB Vengeance 6000MHz CL30 kit, although I had to make some changes to get it stable. Still, thank you!

[@nysgia3126]

hey, whats your cpu and what kind of changes did you make?

[@justADeni]

@@nysgia3126 my CPU is Ryzen 9 7950X3D, and my timings are: Frequency: 6000MHz, but you could maybe push it further if you went with higher latency, which I didn't want. Tcas - 30 Trcd - 36 Trp - 36 Tras - 56 Trc - 92 Trfc - 480 other timings were as in the video or only slightly higher but they're not as important as these

[@wtfskilz]

@@justADeni How much voltage did you need? I got a 7800X3D and same exact RAM , but I don't really feel like doing 1.45Volts that seems quite high.

[@justADeni]

@@wtfskilz I didn't touch the voltage at all since I wasn't going for 6200MHz or 6400MHz. Just Expo I with these timings

[@ilhambuono5451]

Hello there, may i ask something, do you apply PBO curve optimizer? And what do you apply?

[@cassist]

originally tried buildzoid's defaults but they wouldn't boot. Followed your guide and my dirt cheap teamgroup a-die ram is running 6000 cl30 no problem, thanks!! :)

[@onoverclock]

glad to see that my video helped you)

[@nakulkundra5779]

Its about the BIOS version I guess, Buildzoids settings may be applicable to old bios versions (Dec and Jan), but these settings seem to be work on new BIOS versions.

[@Ben-ld1qi]

Which TeamGroup kit did you get? I bought the T-Create Classic 5600 CL46 according to Buildzoid's recommendation but got Hynix M-Die. I know because I can crank the tRFC on my 13600k / Z790 way lower than on A-Die.

[@albertoscix2]

​@@Ben-ld1qii had the same kit. If it doesn't get below 403 trfc at 6200, or 390 at 6000, then it's M die

[@Ben-ld1qi]

@@albertoscix2 just a minor correction my friend, i think you meant if it *does* get below said tRFC then it's M-Die. Because M-Die is capable of reaching lower tRFC than A-Die, not vice versa. So did you end up getting M-Die or A-Die on the kit that you had?

[@lucianoamieva9660]

Hola buen video, hice y me funciona perfecto tengo unas ram ddr5 5200hz 2x8 solo tengo una duda deje en automático las ultimas opciones que usted pone 1 yo tengo dos memorias de 8 las configuraciones son iguales?

[@TarsoSousa]

I found these XPG with Hynix A-die part. number AX5U6000C3616G-DCLARBK but can't find much info online for that kit, is it rare or what i usually find the other 2 variants 6000c30 or 6000c40

[@NoXQc]

Hey! Any updated video with the F8 bios that improves stability and OC ? The interface is also different even though it’s pretty much the same. Just noticed a few extra settings.

[@badlicious]

Great job man! Is there still a way to get the software pack you can redirect me to?

[@megapet777]

can someone help me? I have only enabled xmp and hwinfo is reporting my ram speed to fluctuate up and down a lot. I dont think this is normal? Isnt ram supposed to have static clock speed? Edit: I tested aida64 and it shows 3000mhz clock speed, and 63611 mb/s read speed and 68ns latency so I believe it's just hwinfo visual bug?

[@tweakingguy]

Goat 🐐🐐

[@Zimzim-v2x]

Please, any link for ddr5 cl30 2x16gb which are for sure A-die?

[@PierreOG]

Is this settings work on hynix m die? i have b650 aorus elite ax ryzen 7600 and ddr5 trident z5 neo

[@PierreOG]

Can u do new tutorial for m die for amd platform? Gigabyte have new bios

[@Ryzen-gh1en]

can you please make a guide for Samsung A DIE memories kit

[@onoverclock]

watch the latest video on my channel

[@Mysterion_KM]

Hello. Will this work on 7500F and 6000 MHz 32 CL XMP dual rank ram?

[@kenross4453]

Thank you for this guide!! I am building a 7800X3D / X670E Steel Legend PC with 64Gb RAM - CTCWD564G6000HC34BDC01 from TeamGroup. It has listed timings of 6000Mhz, CL34-44-44-84. Do I need to change anything from this guide for my specific parts?

[@onoverclock]

Hello, you can leave everything as it is, but enable the xmp profile built into the RAM bios, but remember, the voltage on the hmp profile may be higher than required, so check if everything is fine with the voltage set by the motherboard. And of course, you yourself decide whether it is worth overclocking or not)

[@Decki777]

can you do hynix A die overclock for Intel 13th gen my friend

[@wezzla]

Many thanks for the guide. Unfortunately my motherboard doesn't allow me to raise VDD voltage above 1.43V and CL28 at 6.2k becomes highly volatile. I managed to get a AIDA64 reading but the there was no direct improvement anyway.

[@onoverclock]

what kind of motherboard do you have and are you sure that you have hynix a-die memory?

[@toonnut1]

Id like to see this memory on the apex encore z790 👍

[@sqvrltastic]

Hey I have a question - I'm considering getting Corsair Vengence DDR5 RAM kit, and it says that you can adjust timings, frequency and voltage in their iCUE software which I don't like. Can I still adjust it in BIOS manually? Provided my mobo has that option, but IIRC it does (B650E-I to be precise)

[@mobilemonster7681]

Yes you can. Corsair is full of gimmicks and would give my money to other companies any day.

[@omerfarukilgun9653]

Hi, is there any difference after RAM oc on warzone 2 ?

[@onoverclock]

I can't know what improvements you expect. There are fewer frame drops in heavy scenes and faster work in Windows, it all depends on the success of your memory and overclocking.

[@ilhambuono5451]

i have ram of teamgroup elite DDR5 5200, however i dont know whether mine is Hynix A-die or M-die, i check on thaiphoone burner yet it says no clue it says Model M88SPD5118 and , does anyone know that by any chance? but i tried 6000mhz on stock timings at 1.35v and soc 1.25v, it always has error and blue screens when i stress test it so i stay at 5600mhz 32-36-36-72 and stock sub timings at the moment yet it's been stable

[@onoverclock]

use the OSST program, on the Memory tab you will find the information you need

[@ilhambuono5451]

@@onoverclock OCCT doesnt say anything about that too, i think mine is M-die based on it says lot of letter M, which is better A-die or M-die?

[@Markknightexeter]

Ideally you want gear down mode disabled, this means you can have half steps, with it on you can only choose even numbers, having it off gives you far more scope for overclocking

[@vx9330]

What is it about the Ryzen memory system that makes speeds over 6000 require at lot of voltage? I don't have a Ryzen system yet but to me it is strange that 6200 would require so much voltage when there are plenty of 7000/7200 kits (for Intel) rated using 1.4v/1.45v. My guess is that hitting 6200 is more dependent on SOC voltage not DRAM voltage unless you think keeping your timings tight is what is really requiring the extra voltage.

[@print493]

The next AGESA update should reach 7000 very easily. Just be patient.

[@vx9330]

@@print493 I don't believe that for a second. If they could have enabled that kind of memory speed with Ryzen 4 they would have made progress by now. We won't see 7000MT memory speeds until the 8000 series and or updated memory controller in the 7000 series.

[@Shise-]

@vx9330 Kek, this didn't age well.

[@vx9330]

@@Shise- I mean it did, most people can't run 7000MT stably and even those that can don't get any performance benefit vs 6000 with gear 1.

[@Shise-]

@@vx9330 No it didn't, 'We won't see 7000MT', I can run at 7800Mhz, so no clue what your on about and doesnt matter about the performance, it proves your point was invalid that we can't run above 7000Mhz and above.

[@drakcoreoriginal]

Tried Buildzoid's config and unfortunately this doesn't work for me either. Has to be 3600MHz, nothing else higher seems to work. ATM is defaults to 3600MHz, NB: 1800Mhz, FSB:DRAM 1:18, 30-30-30-58-88 MB: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI (MS-7D77) RAM: 128GB (32GBx4) - "G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MT/s CL30-40-40-96 1.40V" x 2 kits CPU: 7950X3D Can't even get past setting it to 6000Mhz and the first ram timings.

[@apexHasu]

it is almost impossible to overclock on full bank ddr5

[@drakcoreoriginal]

@@apexHasu It is the memory controller, it can't handle all 4 banks, effectively splitting up its time to look after each ram stick. Just wish it could do better than 3600MHz for DDR5, even 4800MHz would be a good compromise. Might swap out for the 96GB kit or wait for the 128GB kits that are two sticks. They have also been releasing a lot of BIOS revisions, so maybe in time it will get better.

[@HoangDucNuyen]

With Ryzen 7000, you should avoid using 4 dimms memory, even 4x16gb 4800MT/s high chance wont be stable. Yes, there are some guys Ryzen 7000 can achieve 6000MT/s with 4 dimms, but they are just lucky, some even need messing with Termination values to get 6000MT/s stable.

[@sonicfraude9836]

Nice man...

[@fazendohistoria_]

Can't open the google drive link, could you fix it?

[@onoverclock]

goo.su/KUBH try it

[@MacMal-c5l]

Would getting the z5 8000cl38 kit and down speeding it to 6000cl30 while having the option for future upgrade with 8000series be worth it?

[@IIHydraII]

No, just buy a team group T Create Classic 5600 46-46-46 kit

[@XxXTMillzXxX]

I have Kingston fury m-die ram, everything is stable but I can't set tRFC lower than 500 not sure why? Thank you for the video this has taught me a lot 👍

[@onoverclock]

you can watch the guide for intel on my channel and see that you need to set the timings one by one, they depend on each other, so look at the guide, I think it should help you 'Guide how to overclock DDR5, instructions for hynix m-die for intel'

[@print493]

Super detailed video. Really appreciate the guide. However I cannot get my dual rank kit to work with your values. Do you have experience tuning dual rank? My kit is the same product line as yours, just 2x32GB. CTCWD564G6400HC34BDC01

[@print493]

Nevermind I managed to apply the timings after a BIOS reset. The latency number is slower than the single rank memory with the same timings. 6000 CL30 following your first profile and end up at 70ns on AIDA64 benchmark.

[@onoverclock]

@@print493 congratulations, so it helped you, but I think if you try, then the latency can be reduced a little more, but it's up to you to decide whether to do this detailed setting or not

[@print493]

@@onoverclock I think I will wait for the new AGESA update and try to push it more. Do you think you will put together an updated guide? This is already very detailed. I think converting it to a workflow diagram would be even more helpful.

[@elbrusbaskaev8760]

Can you do the same with ddr4? 4000mhz?

[@onoverclock]

Now I'm mainly busy overclocking RAM on DDR5. You can search for other guides on KZbin. DDR4 has been on the market for quite a long time and there are already many detailed guides on it

[@100redbuii4]

Nope doesn't work i got the g skill Trident z5 2x16 6000 mhz and doesn't work

[@TheTwiix]

why the ai voice over ?

[@kenblackmotorsports5441]

I think the guy speaks another language so this is the English version of it.

[@lonesyy]

😊

[@onoverclock]

software link goo.su/KUBH

[@SideQuestSensei]

Please pin your comment.

[@gsummers1150]

Promo*SM 💐

[@maniakfps249]

WTF ahhahahha what kind of guide is this by jacek lol not much content, just generalities for the blacksmith

[@Rochi7]

BE AWARE! tRFC1 should be set to 416 not 400 as the techs told that this should be set as a fixed steps >>> tRFC: Steps of 32 352,384,416,448,480,512,544,576 ^ only matters for REFIab - if 65528 is used

[@darphy1863]

My hynix a-die EXPO sets 884 by default. currently set that value is 360(120ns)… am I wrong now? occt and some test tools doesn't records any errors and malfunctions... but... man... I really worried about that.

[@Rochi7]

@@darphy1863 It should be safe, always keep doing backup for your important files, in case you want to be safe don't over voltage your ram beside any time you make changes in bios do double check becuase even if you undervolt your cpu that might creat a conflict with your ram.

[@darphy1863]

@@Rochi7Alright thanks the info pal. honestly, CPU/SoC/DRAM voltage's research has done. My A-die is specified by 1.4v & SoC 1.25v. CPU voltage can't change the values manually 'cuz my CPU is 7800X3D. well, anyway... ah sh!t, another trial and error again.

[@Rochi7]

@@darphy1863 Be aware of the comment last condition, so these values, matter only and only if the REFIab -65528 So if I'm getting this right, as long as you don't use this value you should be fine.

[@maveric19871]

Obviously wrong, for 65528 is 500. For 65535 is 512, naturally 480, 448, 800 etc