Overclocking with a stock air cooler?? Is it even possible?

When AMD released the Wraith cooler it was widely accepted as a decent stock cooler... what about AMD's new Prism cooler found bundled with the 2700x??
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[@ReyaadGafur]

Rgb always boosts base clock and vrm performance for maximum overclock. Obviously.

[@marshallr.8121]

Epitome Soul Kayanzeblanda honestly, just download some ram

[@zealotmaster1]

lies only lighting bolt stickers makes your cpu run faster

[@koffee3816]

the addition of heatpipes helps...

[@TheDyingScotsman]

Only if you set the RGB to red. Kappa

[@RBsRealm]

A real *”bright”* one you are -.-

[@lancelindlelee7256]

Intel: You need to buy K processors to overclock. AMD: All our processors overclock themselves (as long as you have adequate cooling). The difference in attitude is amazing

[@Max-io3uz]

So can i overclock on a b450 mainboard or i need to buy the x470

[@RaNDomNvr]

Apple vs android

[@MrGrayfour]

@@Max-io3uz You can overclock an AMD cpu with a B-series motherboard.

[@OsmanthusWineZhongli]

@@MrGrayfour how about on a x470?

[@MrGrayfour]

@@OsmanthusWineZhongli as the highest end chipset available for AMD CPUs at the moment, of course it can. :)

[@xflynskywlkr27]

Amd offers a decent cooler with a cpu thats already 40% cheaper than intel. Just shows you how greedy intel are.

[@xflynskywlkr27]

@v KEITH v i understand what youre saying but when you buy an exotic car youre paying for exclusivity. Supply and demand. That doesnt really apply to cpu's. There is no shortage of intel cpu's. Intel should be alot more competitive with their pricing then they are and thats why amd outsells them 3 to 1.

[@ayyeclipse6204]

@v KEITH v Nobody buys a Lambo to race people. They buy a lambo to show people how rich they are.

[@ytaccount-rs6jt]

xflynskywlkr27 Yeah when buying cpus it’s a commodity

[@tattoodtechnerd4945]

@@ayyeclipse6204 your right and some pple buy intel to show they have the little bit of extra money and they dont care about it lol

[@ChiekoGamers]

@v KEITH v stfu dumbass

[@rickykew1132]

The wraith prism is made by Cooler Master, and just branded as AMD, that’s why it’s a quality cooler

[@NicksDividends]

Amd has used the same basic design for like 12 years. They have just added a few more heatpipes and rgb

[@drip2hard976]

@@NicksDividends you serious its a whole diffrent cooler lol intel has had the same design for years

[@NicksDividends]

@@drip2hard976 It is the same basic design since the Phenom IIs

[@NicksDividends]

Go find pictures of the Phenom II X6 coolers and tell me its a blank sheet design without lying. HINT YOU CAN'T

[@troglodude980]

@MintyZa actually it came with the FX 8350 black edition

[@acer8123]

*Opens task manager *Computer crashes Me: You have become the very thing you swore to destroy

[@theplayerofus319]

Task manager: from my point of view the computer is evil!

[@mak.1ps]

Task manager (not responding) You became the thing you swore to destroy!

[@bananya6020]

time for cmd and taskkill- *Administrator: Command Prompt (Not Responding)*

[@Machistmo]

you have become death, the destroyer of OS's. ./holds Power button and presses it again.

[@jordangodfrey1693]

Opens task manager to end task manager. I used the stones to destroy the stones

[@KingChristo]

*Intel* Looks at AMD: Heehee I think we are better. *AMD* Does *your* stock cooler have RGB?

[@zyelumc4279]

I like that

[@logan_kes]

whats a stock cooler? all i know is my xeons come with no thermal solution

[@logan_kes]

Intel lets save customers money buy not putting in a cooler thats just going to get thrown away on any overclock able cpu

[@logan_kes]

3en6ie 3en6ie I pulled off my cooler on my Ryzen system and it ripped the cpu out of the socket -said every amd owner ever who changed the cooler or thermal paste. Honestly pga mounting needs to go asap

[@rippeduprunway811]

Still no excuse for how bad Intel's stock coolers are. Those sad excuses for coolers noticeably throttle performance on their non-K SKUs by not allowing max turbo to happen. Also, if they did it to save money, why do Intel CPUs cost more?

[@meseone920]

Jay thanks for the test as this video convinced me to use the stock cooler on a 2700x instead of my water cooling preference. My son who is 9 years old built the system ground up and was absolutely floored when it turned on for the first time. He thinks the build is for my friend but it’s his Xmas gift and he has no idea he built his own Xmas gift. We recorded the process and he is looking to post it to his KZbin. Anyways Thanks again for convincing me it’s ok to go back to air cooling on the 2700x stock cooler I abandoned years ago.

[@the1untitled]

Cool

[@devangmaheshwari3902]

A 10 year old having his own computer is so good. I got to use my first laptop after it was retired by my elder sibling at age 15. Then started with music production. This year I build my own pc with Ryzen 9 5900x.

[@chengizkhan8741]

You are a great parent

[@John-mf6ky]

What an awesome Dad! Wish I would have had parents into tech lol

[@TEGvTEG]

"I took off this stock thermal paste in order to put on another paste with identical properties so that I could mention my sponsor"

[@GermanLookLikeTV]

Naah stock thermal paste is bad and the way its put on will cause air bubble you have to put a small drop in the middle of the cpu and but the cooler on than to minimize air bubbles for better cooling performance.

[@soufianeelhammaoui2504]

Add me on Discord; you're a smart guy. Destiny#2877

[@allanhuseyin6370]

Stock thermal paste is shit. like really shit. not a good mixture. and like the other guy said, air bubbles also can occur.

[@houseking9211]

lol

[@SleepyFawn]

He said he already tested the cooler, so the thermal paste had already been used.

[@vaphualfpv]

The answer is at 8:50 for those who r too lazy to watch the whole video like me

[@Dilan_Duck]

Thanks

[@gokwan7133]

The guy talks to much..rather watch randomgaminginhd

[@goober8769]

God bless this man

[@Nick-bw4mc]

Cheeers bro

[@damianosplay9457]

thx

[@psun256]

Intel : overpriced cpu and made in a basement stock coolers that the newest CPUs don't even include AMD : Intel on a budget with same performance and stock cooler that is actually worth money!

[@madoracle4811]

AMD has lower base clock tho

[@chadthundercock4982]

@@madoracle4811 Literally no one is going to run Ryzen on base clock lmao.

[@rigby4483]

@@chadthundercock4982 THERE ARE A LOT THAT ARE GONNA DO IT

[@enderbartnik3148]

@@madoracle4811 that's pointless to compare. Like saying that because an rx 580 has a lower clock than a 1050ti, it will run slower. Comparing clock speeds between brands isn't accurate

[@muridalcars]

Voxle I run 1600x on base clock lol. Rated at 3.6ghz stock but shows as 3.7? Do u reckon this is xfr or turbo speed?

[@yukido42]

Jay: lock at 68c Me: just needed 1 more C, to get the perfect temperature.

[@b.henriques9871]

so funny aha

[@blitz8260]

uhhhh I’m at 420 C

[@Key.ToSuccess]

I am the 69th like

[@mattmenendez721]

I gotta say the channel's editing has gone from good to great. Tell that new guy he's doing really good work.

[@Bearssuperfan]

Kinda bugged me that you referred the old cooler as the “Wraith” but the whole lineup of Ryzen Stock coolers is called “Wraith”. Wraith Stealth is the smallest with Wraith Spire in the middle and Wraith Prism on top

[@dhanajon5528]

IKR i was like "jay what the hell are you talking about, theyre ALL wraith coolers hahaha srly wanted to pull my hair out

[@VonAndrade]

@@dhanajon5528 The other one he showed is a spire

[@Alalpog]

Next intel cpu release comes woth a included stock cooler. With LED lights. For only $400.

[@RyTrapp0]

smoked buns And only blue LEDs

[@jessikat6692]

**Crickets**

[@tarik44100]

Not only it doesn't have anything included for its own sake but it's also an expensive oven.

[@christopherblaney7619]

Turns out its 600 usd and co es with no cooler at all

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@@christopherblaney7619 BUT, it also heats your house.

[@spwan-ht2yv]

Linus would have dropped the cooler and cpu :)

[@furiousgamer4102]

Watching this in a Pentium PC with Intel stock cooler hurts me somehow

[@HafidzMurshidie]

Furious Gamer oof

[@michaelm.2736]

@@HafidzMurshidie massive oofs in the chat

[@yeoldekrabs3436]

oof

[@ybr8192]

ÿ

[@shahalamgaming2305]

Atleast u got a gtr dream car

[@Pablo_Arnold]

5:55 actually its a no case scenario

[@YokeyDokey]

Haaaaaahaaaahaaaa

[@BaronVonPwn]

One of the most gorgeous air coolers I've seen. Way better than my old spire .

[@AvroBellow]

Here we are six years later and I'm using a Wraith Prism cooler on my R7-5800X3D. It really is an awesome cooler!

[@SaintInix]

Looks almost the same as the old AMD heat pipe cooler. Those were pretty good, used them on a dual Opteron server board way back in the day. Never had an issue.

[@Speedycat]

the nice thing about the heatpipe stock coolers that came with the FX Cpu's was that you could trow it on any of the older AMD Sockets too (AM2 for example). A nearby Shop did sell the leftover coolers from prebuilds they made for 3$ so i bought some to upgraded older OEM Systems with them, really nice and quiet on the old Athlon X2's

[@xx_destructo_xxishere4629]

That's the Cooler master T4 not a 212Evo.

[@Jayztwocents]

Youre right!

[@Mopargamingtv4611]

I’ve built my first pc watching you jay thanks for all the help and the people that commented on some of the videos helped me also. I built a ryzen system with these specs asrock mother board b450m, ryzen 5 2500 cpu in going to over clock, after market cooler CPU Cooler 120mm Addressable RGB PWM Fan with 4 Copper Heatpipes, GAMEMAX, five rgb fans, three on the front for Intake two exhaust, gpu is xfx rc 5700 8gb gddr6 I’m gonna flash to the xt, for ram I went with G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series, drive wise I went with pcie-500gb and a sata lll ssd 500gb m.2 and a hdd 500gb on the back of the case, wireless card ASUS PCE-AC55BT B1 AC1200 Wireless Bluetooth 4.2 PCIe and EVGA 700 BR, 80+ Bronze 700W for power supply I may filp it facing up for another exhaust if need for proper air flow learned from jay. What you guys think I can improve on once again this my first build and it’s thanks to all you guys.

[@SgtRock4445]

I'd like a all ultimate AMD build with game benches on 1440p. So 2700x + vega64.

[@SgtRock4445]

Cavey Manta because of the overclocking? I have looked into that, and all I can find is that you can oc it as high as stock vega64 performance wise, or did I miss something?

[@RyTrapp0]

Maybe two different AMD builds - a 2700x + V56 all air cooled, and a 1950x + V64 on water. That would be a damned expensive series though, lol

[@Cwrigh25]

Seconded!

[@Kitto0]

Sgt. Rock this ☝️

[@farfetched1660]

getting an all AMD build is not a good idea. Get a 1080, not a Radeon

[@jordanrodrigues8265]

The copper part in the (original) Wraith is a vapor chamber - a big heat pipe. Solid copper would be very heavy and expensive.

[@10ted4]

I have a 3.8GHZ OC on my Ryzen 1700 with the stock cooler. AMD is really stepping things up

[@m.b2948]

Hey man any advise on how to overclock the 1700 safely and efficiently??

[@Sinister80s]

i have a Meshify C, two 140mm high airflow fans for intake and one 120mm high airflow fan for exhaust. And a Cryorig H7 on a Ryzen 5 1600. i don't even overclock but i like my stuff cool.

[@mrn234]

To be honest i love the clips super easy and fast.

[@danieln.285]

I am rocking a FX-6300 and recently got in kinda that exact same cooler but without the RGB stuff, just the basic AMD led logo, and gaming with the turbo kicking in for ~30 minutes, it maxed out around the low 50s celcius. Of course it's just a 95w CPU, but comparing this cooler to the previous AMD stock cooler, I'd say it's a huge step up

[@QALibrary]

I would have liked the test was done with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Air Cooler as well

[@Ari-M]

Same results really.. they are similar in size and performance.

[@Cooe.]

Here's the original Wraith/Wraith Max tested by AnandTech vs the EVO. The Wraith & EVO are nigh identical in cooling performance and noise. The Wraith Prism is a souped up version of the former with direct contact heat-pipes & more powerful fan. Interpret how you will. www.anandtech.com/show/10500/stock-cooler-roundup-intel-amd-vs-evo-212

[@EVPointMaster]

5:59 'best case' scenario is no case

[@infraviolet]

people forget about AMD's older cooler that came with the black editions of the FX CPUs, was basically just a slightly smaller prism cooler without the lights and a smaller fan.

[@TheeBreast]

On the point of the tower coolers not cooling components on the motherboard, I recent bought a Zalman CNPS9900max because it was on newegg for 10 bucks. And I have to say that style of cooler needs to come back. When testing it compared to my other tower cooler the temps of my SATA m.2 dropped 7c, which it just crazy. Unfortunately I wasnt able to get a temperature on my VRMs. I think the Zalman due to the design and openness of it does a great job of circulating air around the socket more then a traditional tower cooler, its basically the best of both worlds. Zalman is also supplying AM4 brackets for some of their coolers, making them still worth it.

[@RetroBerner]

1.5v on air... you maniac!

[@MJ-uk6lu]

In older days even over 3v was normal on air.

[@RyanmcgroveUs]

My AMD FX-9590 is at 1.5250v on air. It is ok

[@DogeRider985]

i can smell something burn...lol

[@streamtabulous]

hmmm i want to see jay do a mod with frying pan on cpu cooking a egg

[@TTTray13467]

Алексей Черных same with my 8320

[@marthulu6220]

Oc guide?

[@based_will]

marben check the last video

[@Najvalsa]

Don't need to OC.

[@Jbay2608]

I have a 2600, waiting for the board to arrive. I ordered a Hyper 212 Turbo LED, it comes with two fans so hopefully it'll keep the 2600 cool enough to do some OC'ing.

[@stevengegar9709]

do the Ryzen 7 3800x with stock cooler and see if it does the same w/OC please, as it too came w/the Rathe cooler

[@PowBamZing]

But can it blend?

[@ujiltromm7358]

Phew, finger smoke! Don't breath it!

[@nmerlgy279]

there is a small interruptor behind where the rgb motherboard header wire onto the wraith prism that has ¨L¨ and ¨H¨ , that way you manually let the cooler set up a more agressive fan curve speed at the expense of noise, still a terrific cooler for the ryzen though, intel needs to make such a capable cooler for their i9s i7s to get back in the game.

[@OwMyLiver]

AMD's Wraith cooler rocks. I have a 1600 running at 3.9ghz on its stock cooler. It could probably hit 4, but as good as the cooler is I didn't want to mess with voltages too much with it.

[@KindOldRaven]

My 3700x auto volts itself up to 1.5 for short intervals and it runs hot with the prism. No crazy temps above 80 yet under gaming load with uncapped framerate, but the cooler does get loud.

[@Pillin123]

ive had a 2600x for more then a year and it never let me down on gaming or multitasking...now im going for the 3700x which is a dream...AMD will be my platform for a long time as it is offering the greatest value cpus

[@johnchestervictoriano7722]

I recently bought a Ryzen 2700X with an MSI X470 Gaming Plus and an aftermarket AIO water cooler. I didn't waste the stock cooler as I have used it as design/modification in my build.

[@russell7852]

Awesome video exactly what I needed to know about my 2700x purchase

[@Z33Garage]

The plastic screws on V01 of the cooler are prone to breaking or coming off over time. The clamp is much more secure.

[@patrickhudson9236]

I just installed a 2700x with a prism cooler and i am a fan of the tower coolers BUT I have to say I am impressed with the prism. But I also HATE the mounting bracket!!

[@NarekAvetisyan]

I'm running my Ryzen 2700X on the Wraith Prism as well, with a full overclock. (Budget reasons) 4.15GHz 1.325 Volt on Asus B450-E Motherboard 73°C max at full speed 3600 RPM with the Wrait Prism Cooler with high mode on. 19°C Room temp in the Coolermaster Cosmos case. 3m 30sec BMW Blender 2.82a render time 4150 Cinebench R20 score It's a little bit lound but I don't mind it that much. Since it's nice and stable with no problemo!

[@Timo_Tech]

Just bought an open box Ryzen 2600 from Micro Center but it turns out it had bent pins... Good news is this video might have just saved the day! Time to see if it'll post.

[@Timo_Tech]

Update: it worked! 8 benchmarks in and no problems.

[@Jay-zf5bu]

thank you Jay, 2021 and this video is still helpful.

[@BAdventures]

Good test and review. AMD is adding value. The RGB makes me want it now ⭕💨😂

[@norger8847]

happy enough with my 3700x stock cooler permanent all core oc with 4.3ghz at 1.325v. stress stested and used in production daily no issues

[@gurvsander]

if you turn off the rgb in the prism cooler it could close that 5 degree gap

[@yeqianshi4045]

It definately is possible. Her me as long as the case is well vented with additional 2-4 120mm fans to get additional airflow in and out of the case. Managed to get cinabench r20 score of 7718 @ 4325mhz all core clock on a 3900x with temp at 90C. very happy loud and fuck though....

[@NahdirUK]

I just bought a 2600x and it came with the Wraith cooler. All stock, no OC it ran 42C idle. I replaced it with MX-4 paste & my old upright Thermalright MUX-120 that cooled my Phenom x2 965 BE for 8 years and the temps dropped to 32C idle. I may have messed up installing the stock cooler as it slipped off when I was applying the back plate and the paste may have been messed up.

[@OPTERON_PRIME]

Thank you Jay great video!

[@cubu1946]

i always thought air flow would be better in a case then on an open bench as you stated at approx 6:10 in this vid, my reason for that assumption though goes down to arrow dinamics mostly... with the case you can keep a seal around the air and force the flow over the entire motherboard and direct it to spacific components with added parts that direct air flow when its open bench... the air is more loose theres no pressure and therefore nothing restraining it to move over the rest of the motherboard...

[@lucaspeterson8181]

I just bought the 2700x. Is this a bad decision? Tell me what you guys think I’m looking for opinions

[@kionera96]

You can't go wrong with any 2nd gen Ryzen chips tbh

[@kineticbe]

You should have asked BEFORE you bought it maybe?

[@NickJaime]

DarkBlueSumo if you only game then the 8700k would have been better. But apps that use multiple cores the 2700x would be best. But most games prefer core clock speed then threads, so the 8700k hitting almost 5 gig is best for gaming.

[@Shmozone]

Both sides have advantages, but right now AMD offers pretty good gaming, great workstation use, and a good upgrade path in the future. I'd say the small dip in gaming performance is worth everything else AMD has to offer right now.

[@NickJaime]

Shmozone Of course they both have advantages but Intel is ahead in gaming. In some games by alot cause of the different clock speeds and having more cores does nothing when most aren't being used.

[@theq4602]

I've OCed on a stock air cooler. Wraith. A R7 1700 to 3.8Ghz. I strapped a fan I pulled from a space heater and zip tied it onto the slot where my front side panel went. Plugged that bastard in and it roared. I OCed it to 3.8 and got like ~45C.

[@nicolasm7913]

I would say, that topblowers do rather spread the heat of the cpu to surrounding elements on the board, what i do not appreciate in any way.

[@shadow105720]

My brave little 1400 got pushed to its absolute limits with its stock cooler in a phanteks p400 non mesh with only one intake and one exhaust fan. It never could post at 4.0 for me but 3.9 and 3.8 were 'just' unstable. 3.7 all day though.

[@ben_w]

Back in the day, I got my Sempron 2800+ from 1.6GHz to 2.4GHz with the stock cooler (and even without using any thermal paste other than what was already on it). That thing lasted for many years until I finally had to tune it down to 2.32GHz when it finally lost stability.

[@chatter7653]

I just got the 2700 X with that cooler and under any load that increases the fan speed, which is frequently , it is unacceptably loud. So now I’m am looking for quieter coloring options short of liquid cooling.

[@One_Bar]

I’ve been using the stock Intel 4790K cooler for 5 years. It just lately started having problems and the processor has been locked at 4.35 GHz for those 5 years. My NH-D15 chromax.Black should be in Monday xD

[@FlintG]

Yeah I will probably get the amd wraith max cooler for my new pc that will use the ryzen 5 3400g.

[@Panchirito_Official]

Name me one stock cooler that has rgb that Intel made.

[@shitposts6737]

none

[@dashelrubin-stencel4009]

Intel stock cooler with Christmas lights

[@jeesiejones8745]

Subscribing to your chanel was one of the best decisions i ever made in my lìfe

[@kingkosher6231]

I put this on my FX8120 and it does really well :)

[@SpecialKLSX]

"I'm gonna skip the turbo setting" Which increases airflow...

[@xenonnati]

Ryzen 1700 here, running 4.0ghz on its stock cooler just fine, case doesn't really have what i'd call good airflow either.

[@Rhapbus1]

I overclocked my phenom ii x4 with a Athlon 64 x2 stock cooler that was hanging on by 1 clip and some zipties because i broke the other clip piece trying to put it in. So anyone who says "no you cant under any circumstance" is wrong. end of story. you can. How well? obviously not as well, cmon, i dont gotta tell you that.

[@JeoWilson]

You can do AMD Turbo Mode with stock cooler! Custom Clock is risky though. I have a AMD Ryzen 5, By default the BIOS uses a Quiet and Cool Feature with standard clock. My chip runs cooler with turbo mode active as it disables the quiet and cool feature and uses Standard Fan Speeds. 3.2GHz is my standard Clock, 3.4 Turbo. I was getting up to 65c at standard clock under full load. With Turbo I have not Gotten over 57c.

[@JeoWilson]

AMD says My chip is not good enough bfor hellblade: senua's sacrifice but with turbo active my GHz is equals the Ryzen 5 2400's base speed which is the minimum recommended. I have the Ryzen 5 1400

[@Ruddy_Games]

I use a standard Wraith cooler and overclock my ryzen 5 2600 to 4.05ghz with 38c idle and 68c at heavy loads (Stays under 50c for the most part with 40% fan speed) I think the cooler is more than good enough, if i bought another air cooler i could maybe get 5% performance max? which i dont think is worth paying for imo.

[@LerRhann]

I fucking love the prism... I have a CNPS9900 MAX though.

[@firstdondiego]

Is it possible to purchase the prism cooler separately from the chip?

[@jeffibuilt]

Join an AMD group. Most folks sell their prism and buy different setups. I got one for my 2600 last week 😁

[@arnab9288]

You can get one from ebay

[@zanewhiting4289]

damn that prism is a sexy looking cooler, especially considered you get it free with the CPU

[@Humance]

lots of digressions involved in Jay's videos

[@krazus2036]

I hate the screws on the stock cooler, the flipping springs that keep the screws at the perfect tightness(retention, closeness??) make this really nasty sound. Not a really fun experience for a person who is building their first high end pc(first pc), and that's IF you get the screw in the backplate the first time!

[@residentduke891]

6:20 dude i LOL'd so hard !!!

[@the_white_squirrel9719]

picked up the ryzen 2700x and a b450 tomahawk board so this review helps. Jay if you want a MSI 970A-G43 board with a FX-8350 chip I'll ship it to you

[@nothing4922]

no meh :3

[@saravanank1058]

I'm not sure but AMD stock cooler is probably manufactured by cooler master.

[@Daily_Internet_Insight]

Hi, make a video with what air cooler can you overclock or which cheap liquid cooler would be better... Thanks

[@Adam0Yahya]

Finally replaced my stock 2600 cooler with 2700x cooler (which I got pretty cheap) and got my temp average 10c down.

[@Adam0Yahya]

@Ryan Yeet I did just to test (can run at 4.0 with temp below 90c) but my psu is old so I did not run the OC 24/7.

[@Suiax]

The most impressive thing about this cooler, is it came in the box next to the 2700x. Never really liked air coolers, they always seem too big too bulky, not that cool looking, which is why i spend extra on an AIO. But the Wraith Prism, oh man, i think I'm gonna delay getting the AM4 Mounting bracket for a bit.

[@randomcatontheinternet2771]

the thing i hate about downflow air cooler , when your CPU underload it just blow hot air to your motherboard and RAM which just make it even hotter

[@colinshard8665]

i bought the wraith prism for my ryzen 5-2600 system, cos my case was a bit too "bland" and it keeps my cpu at 33 celsius while idle, 45-50 celsius when playing games, and 65-68 celsius when doing a bit of mining and i've pushed it up to 4.0Ghz

[@ertyderty7]

I have the ryzen 7 2700x. I have noticed no temperature difference between the wraith prism cooler and a corsair water cooler. Only problem was my first Wraith Prism cooler was not working new out of the box. AMD sent me a new one.

[@fantastic2503]

5c diff when noctua is at 100% or at stock fan curve. Cause the prism was noisy and at 100%

[@Danko_HS]

Why would the air from a top-down cooler help with the other components? Wouldn't that air be pretty hot already from cooling the cpu radiator? How is blowing hot air or ram any good? I would rather have a side airflow cooler pointed to an exhaust case fan.

[@terribleatfishing]

what about the Wraith Spire? Should I upgrade that cooler for content creating?

[@JanetDax]

My 2700x runs at 65C with wraith cooler and turbo. drops to 52c wo turbo

[@brokenhalo2001]

Around the same for me also during long gaming it never goes over 60. Im pretty blown away by how good this "stock" cooler is, dont give a crap about fan sounds once headset is on you dont notice anyway. I dont bother overclocking. Im just wondering If I upgraded to a 5700x or 5800x could I still use it or have to invest in some liquid cooling.

[@Pidalin]

AMD cooler looks good (I have one at home), but for today crazy CPUs it's really not enough. I have Ryzen 3800X and in 100% load it has 80°C even with AIO. I tried AMD cooler and it was almost 90 with 3000 RPM which is actually very good for stock cooler, but not enough for really using that.

[@Evanx373]

I tried to use the stock cooler on my 2700x but it was getting close to 90c while rendering videos. Having said that i usually render 10 to 30 videos at a time. Sitting at 86c that long seemed a bit hot to me.

[@purposeoflife47]

Hi Jaz. . Very good video. I have bought new system with 2700x and I m using prism cooler which is the stock cooler. But I only do blender rendering on it. CPU temp locks at 85C as soon as I hit render..... What do u think. Should I go for AIO or not? Czz I use 24/7 rendering even for weeks

[@gzngahrofthenorth]

I argue that a downward blowing CPU fan in theory is a terrible idea because you would be moving hot air from the hottest part of your computer directly onto the rest of your motherboard which isn't good practice.

[@brybrycrivello]

My 3900x did not like air at all. I have mine at 1.25v at 4.3ghz stable. Still gets pretty hot even with the clc280. I almost think my bios is lying about the voltage.

[@SuperCookieGaming_]

the only intel cpu that can overclock on a stock cooler was the g3258. i've seen it hit 4.8ghz with the stock cooler

[@vin3084]

It a blender at this point. immediately thinks about sticking his finger in it

[@sidewalkere]

Actually, the cooper "core" in the Wraith Spire is a vapour chamber. ;)

[@blacksheepshepherd]

My build : AMD Ryzen 5 3600 AMD Wraith Prism CPU cooler Asrock B450M Steel legend MSI GTX 1650 Ventus XS 4GB Cosair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8 GB XPG Spectrix S40G 512 GB M.2 nvme Toshiba X300 HDD 4TB TPlink TX50e WiFi 6 & Bluetooth 5.0 PCIe Cooler Master watt 650W bronze PSU Tecware M3+ White Case Inwin Jupiter AJ120 ARGB high flow CPU fans.

[@cardinaldriver]

Definitely with the AMD Wraith RGB. One of the finest and neatest air coolers on the planet. Have an FX8350 that achieved 4.5 which isn't a huge deal, but it's an almost .5 Ghz OC. Bought an MSI Core Frozr L, had to de-skirt a DIMM and everything only to achieve 4.3 and very unstable at that. It just didn't pull the heat away fast enough so I was getting a lot of temp fluctuation during heavy load, Yuck! I'm a firm believer that vertical CPU coolers while pretty, are all junk. Especially those 4 fan aluminum cooler sandwiches they try to pimp out for a quick buck. *cough* Noctua *cough*

[@Atljeepboy]

Which Ryzen processor were you testing? Im getting the Ryzen 9 3900x and am wondering if the Prizm Wraith is going to be enough? Im going to be playing Star Citizen and its kinda intensive