Overdue Doctor Who Review: PS

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Council of Geeks

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@firefly24601
@firefly24601 4 жыл бұрын
Arthur Darville's voice-over makes the whole scene work. Without the voice-over, it wouldn't have nearly as much impact.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel waters the plants. Stops - looks around. The emptiness of the house. *The absence of the ending Brian deserved.*
@juliankaper6428
@juliankaper6428 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to cry even when I'm just thinking about this short. It's amazing, not only for Brian but for Rory and Amy too. Not being able to have a child was big at s7 start and knowing they got to raise a kid together it's just a beautiful proof that they were trapped but happy. It destroys me that Brian couldn't see that for himself.
@Rmlohner
@Rmlohner 4 жыл бұрын
It felt so bizarre that the show completely ignored how Amy and Rory's disappearance affected Rory's father, just a few episodes after introducing him so it's not like anyone would have forgotten about him. So this made a lot of sense when I found out about it.
@jaded6530
@jaded6530 4 жыл бұрын
So good, WRITTEN BY CHIBNALL THO!!! He needs to channel that energy into his episodes
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync 4 жыл бұрын
Or is he only good in small bursts?
@martinmaguire-music6692
@martinmaguire-music6692 4 жыл бұрын
@The Reverse He created Brian Williams though.
@Trikeboy2
@Trikeboy2 4 жыл бұрын
@The Reverse the only character in the short he didn't create was Rory and Rory technically isn't in it.
@Trikeboy2
@Trikeboy2 4 жыл бұрын
@The Reverse all appearances by Brian Williams are in episodes written by Chris Chibnall
@Trikeboy2
@Trikeboy2 4 жыл бұрын
@The Reverse being the showrunner doesn't mean they made the character. Terry Nation wasn't the showrunner but he came up with the Daleks and Davros for example.
@englishgiraffe2124
@englishgiraffe2124 4 жыл бұрын
PS- Aka the one where Chris Chibnall made a better farewell to Rory than what Moffat did, let alone an actual farewell.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
I like that Amy's choosing Rory was done for the last time, a nice little through-line from Amy's Choice in S5 to here, but I kinda resent how Rory just serves as a catalyst for that. Rory doesn't get that much to do in the whole episode, and all of S7a, to be honest
@WiloPolis03
@WiloPolis03 4 жыл бұрын
"Dad, I've died" "For real this time?"
@magus104
@magus104 4 жыл бұрын
yea now if only he could write a good full episode. seems like all he can do is write 3-5 minutes before things fall apart. I prefer moffats either way though season 1 and 12 have made moffat look like a god in comparison
@magus104
@magus104 4 жыл бұрын
Amy was the companion. While we all grew to love Rory he was just there and Moffats play thing to keep killing over and over to add drama and mess with the audience. Apparently a lot of people would have rather had Amys farewell cut than Rorys. Rory was great but this is about Amy, you could have an RTD farewell where its just like oh Mickey is black, Martha is black. Obviously they are gonna get married!
@jamiexavier1546
@jamiexavier1546 4 жыл бұрын
Im so sorry to hear about your father, sorry for your loss
@julieeverett7442
@julieeverett7442 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@jsnow7919
@jsnow7919 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if River ever went to meet her Grandad?
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync 4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that would be a good Big Finish story, who knows what’s in the Diary of River Song.
@stevesm4
@stevesm4 4 жыл бұрын
He was very proud of the trowel she was carrying with her in The Husbands of River Song.
@stevesm4
@stevesm4 4 жыл бұрын
"She". I meant "she". Although he might have been proud too.
@jsnow7919
@jsnow7919 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevesm4 I've never noticed this before! Such a good shout!
@danhayward3057
@danhayward3057 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevesm4 wow I am putting this in my mind as a deliberate thing by moffat. Such a clever spot
@roguebritgravy1
@roguebritgravy1 4 жыл бұрын
A tragic yet almost bittersweet fitting end to the Pond-Williams odyssey
@beaky_beak
@beaky_beak 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they did this. I always felt it was strange to build Brian’s character up and then just ignored
@jasonreed2270
@jasonreed2270 4 жыл бұрын
I agree this may be written for an older audience. I'm in my 40s (I wont say how far in lol) but I get emotional about stuff like this. I've lost my whole family over the years to either natural causes, cancer, drugs..you name it. It's just me now in this world. Thank goodness for good friends you know? They say age comes wisdom..which alot of times is bull..because in reality experience is what really brings wisdom. Loss and pain has its uses because it allows us to feel empathy for others. I'm feeling alot of it right now..
@guaco__taco
@guaco__taco 4 жыл бұрын
The short "Good Night" is one of my favorite top tier Doctor Who scenes. The Doctor describing that people don't have poor memories but are simply experiencing the nature of time rewriting itself simultaneously as we experience it is an interesting concept and they express/explain that in a really sweet personal scene between The Doctor and Amy. I love it more than most episodes of the Smith tenure. Love it so much.
@cicada.and.pomegranate
@cicada.and.pomegranate 4 жыл бұрын
P.S. is Chibnall’s best work, and he has been the head writer for 2 seasons.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 4 жыл бұрын
Hünré the last 2 season aren't as bad as people make them out to be it's just people don't like the choice of gender of the doctor so they aren't going to give this time of the show any credit when it's actually had some pretty good episodes like rosa and it takes you away
@leslieshafer6343
@leslieshafer6343 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevin10001 Episodes not being as bad as people make them out to be, & having a few good episodes is hardly a ringing endorsement. Chibnell was a good writer for shows like Broadchurch, but in general he just isn't suited for a science fiction show. And as for people refusing to accept the current Doctor because she's a woman that might be true in some cases but certainly not all. People, myself included didn't like the idea of a female Master (that's just wasn't the image I had in my mind), but the actress was so da** good most people accepted her. Whitaker just doesn't have the range to play the Doctor.
@gnu740
@gnu740 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevin10001 I love the new Doctor, and think this year was an improvement on series 11. I also hate Chibnall's writing, and think the last two seasons were nowhere near as good as Whittaker deserved. The show's problems shouldn't be handwaved away because sexism.
@julieeverett7442
@julieeverett7442 4 жыл бұрын
Chibnal is like Moffett they actually do their best work under supervision, they should NOT be left on their own! Proof in the writing
@cicada.and.pomegranate
@cicada.and.pomegranate 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Jodie Whittaker as the Doctor. Everything else is my issue. I think people who like the series blame all of the hate it gets on the misogynists instead of the writing issues.
@johnlochness
@johnlochness 4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that the way it's shot with story boards makes it far more impactful than it would probably have been shot for real.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
I think this should've gone in the Angels Take Manhatten myself
@englishgiraffe2124
@englishgiraffe2124 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say that this could have been the pre-title sequence, so it doesn't disrupt the overall pacing of the story. And the last part of PS could have been joined up with Amy's foreword.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
@@englishgiraffe2124 Yeah, that probably could've worked
@lynnebelle2276
@lynnebelle2276 4 жыл бұрын
When Amy and Rory got stuck in the past, it had always bothered me that, as far as I knew, Brian would forever be watering those plants, wondering what had happened to his son and daughter in law. I had never heard of this short before, so when I clicked your link, I wasn't sure what I was walking into. It had me in tears rewatching Brian tell them to travel, and that was before the actual short even started. It was exactly what I was looking for, without knowing I was even looking for it. Over the years, I had come to accept the fact that we would never know what happened to Brian. I'm glad to finally be able to close that plot point. This is actually very similar to Blink in season 3, when the grandson (or great grandson) of Kathy Nightingale came back and gave the letter to her younger self before she got sent back in time, before we find out about the weeping angels. It was inspired by what Moffat had written in the past, but had it's own life into it. I hope Chibnall can take the life he poured into this short and give us something this heartfelt for the next season of Doctor Who.
@harlandted
@harlandted 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you and your channel, in a heartfelt fez hat version of you, brought a piece of incite into something I had never seen nor knew of. You are an amazing kind soul. Thank you for the few moments of crying catharsis, since no one is watching. Obviously. And thank you for continued content to focus on rather than just lying in bed, afraid to go out. I have no mask. You are so helpful. Thank you, Mark in Boston
@leslieshafer6343
@leslieshafer6343 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this review, otherwise I never would have found out about this short.
@radic888
@radic888 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t underestimate the influence of Gold’s music on the emotional impact of this short.
@thefragrantwookiee
@thefragrantwookiee 4 жыл бұрын
Who else wants to see a Brian and Graham spinoff?
@carpelibrarium8522
@carpelibrarium8522 4 жыл бұрын
With Wilf.
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins 4 жыл бұрын
@@carpelibrarium8522 Wilf, Brian and Graham together in Big Finish...Sigyn Me Up and Take All of my Money!!!
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
@@marionbaggins And then Peter Capaldi shows up because why not?
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vf5gk I forgot Capaldi is a grandfather too, but yeah bring on the old favourite men!!!
@dayschange2
@dayschange2 4 жыл бұрын
If Chibnall were still bringing this sort of thing to the table, Thirteen’s run would be so much better.
@julieeverett7442
@julieeverett7442 4 жыл бұрын
amen, proof he should NOT be left to his own devices , he works better under supervision!!!
@enchantedlight
@enchantedlight 4 жыл бұрын
before you made this video, I did not realize that "PS" existed. I always had a problem with how Amy and Rory's family were dropped after their exit. Watching "PS", I cried, I cried so hard. Before seeing this short it wasn't exactly what I wished for as I kinda wanted to see the Doctor showing up to explain what happened but honestly, this is perfect. So thank you so much for pointing out this gem for me. Also I completely agree that as you age or lose people you care about scenes like this hurt more. It doesn't matter if the person you lost translates to the person on the screen, the feelings of grief, of loss, does. When you see someone loose someone that they love, you remember the ones you love, that you lost. And tears follow. Love the review! Even though it may me cry!
@stephenseidler8295
@stephenseidler8295 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that this short scene kept the perfect balance for honest emotional impact without being manipulative. The though I had watching it was that it’s the kind of scene Pixar would kill to have right now, and one they done in the past. I had a similar reaction to the famous no-dialogue marriage montage scene in Up. Like you, I don’t think it would have hit me so hard in the feels if I saw it before a certain age. But when I did see it, it was from the age and perspective of having been married for many years. What’s more is, sadly, it was from the perspective of someone whose marriage was in the process of ending. And so what I saw in that scene from Up that hit me hardest was realizing I would not have what those characters did, a marriage that would last a lifetime. I may not have truly processed that realization in my head until I saw that scene. So it hit me like a ton of bricks. Experience truly is the best teacher.
@harmonygibbs7904
@harmonygibbs7904 4 жыл бұрын
I did not watch many of the shorts, as i didnt have consistent access to a computer at that time (outside of work). So seeing this now... i admit, i was in tears. Thank you for letting me know this was here and thank you for sharing your feelings with us. I am sorry for your losses. I've lost all of my grandparents at this point and i know how hard it can be, especially when you are distant from a parental figure. You'll pass love on to your own child and tell them stories about your grandfather, as i'm sure Rory did with his son.
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins 4 жыл бұрын
The way you connected to P.s...is a similar way on how I connected to Grace's death, in The Woman who fell to Earth! Because I lost my Grandmother earlier that year, and after seeing Ryan deal with that it hurt me because I remembered seeing my Grandmother the day before she died.
@HrathenCorso
@HrathenCorso 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't knew that this short exists! Thank you for making me cry:)
@Yan_Alkovic
@Yan_Alkovic 4 жыл бұрын
Man, why can’t Chibnall do stuff like this anymore?
@leslieshafer6343
@leslieshafer6343 4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what I wrote after viewing the short.
@maurinet2291
@maurinet2291 4 жыл бұрын
I think to do stuff like this, you have to dip into a level of honesty he isn't comfortable with anymore. He did it in Broadchurch as well, but less and less per season.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 4 жыл бұрын
The format must help. "P.S." is basically a brief voice-over narrating a letter, with very few characters involved. It also deals with very human, interpersonal themes which, although movingly done, isn't really science fiction. It's much more difficult to sustain a full 45 minutes of sci-fi, and I've seen little from Chris Chibnall to suggest that structuring a full episode of Doctor Who comes easily to him.
@Ri-km3hi
@Ri-km3hi 3 жыл бұрын
I think its he's better at down to earth storys then the Sci Fi materials.
@melissaisloud7404
@melissaisloud7404 4 жыл бұрын
This was beyond beautiful. I loved that it was in sketch form. Made it even more moving , imho.
@shanryder
@shanryder 4 жыл бұрын
This hurt me so much when I found it on KZbin a few years after I watched Angels Take Manhattan.
@richardweaver1529
@richardweaver1529 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Wishing you all the best Nathaniel.
@abigailmathews8509
@abigailmathews8509 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I didn't know it existed and feel much better off with that new knowledge.
@jamiea9634
@jamiea9634 4 жыл бұрын
I always loved this short and Brian not being left to wonder what happened. Also the idea that Rory and Amy got to raise a child together is great! I know that River in the form of Melody was with them but there is a big difference between growing up with someone and being their parent, no matter how much you may have taken care of them. I also feel that Melody and Amy were closer, and school yard society being what it was boys and girls tend to be divided up. Also how much do you want to bet that Antony sneaked a peek at his parents before this? I mean Amy was a modal so would have been use to people coming up to her, so that American Man at some event who shook her hand and said he liked her work. The man who kept visiting the hospital with chest pains wasn't a hypochondriac but was trying to meet a certain nurse. Anthony was raised by time travelers so he knows not to mess with things too much but little things like these wont effect anything. I know you said you don't like head cannon but this is a little one that makes me smile. :)
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this I thought, much like Night of The Doctor, this _should_ have been the pre-title sequence to its respective episode. With the closing shot of Angels Take Manhattan being the narrated reveal of the grandson.
@aonghas1221
@aonghas1221 4 жыл бұрын
Watching again I got to the moment when Rory says "We're alive and well ...and stuck..."...well I had to pause watching weird how the timing brought you to review this in this period
@radic888
@radic888 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who notices the similarity to ‘Blink’?
@Companion92
@Companion92 4 жыл бұрын
This short is so good and sad. I wish they could have filmed it
@kennethsanderson442
@kennethsanderson442 4 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel, sorry to hear about the loss of your father. Lost mine in my teenage years, it does get easier with time.
@k.stewart007
@k.stewart007 4 жыл бұрын
My daughters are like that. Very empathetic for their ages. Although my 19 has suffered a few losses of loved ones, she really feels things deeply when other people are going through things she hasn't experienced wether its people she actually knows or characters from media. My youngest is the same. Shes only 9 but her empathy for her age, is astonishing. Especially as shes never really suffered much emotional trauma. I do know people thought who can watch my girl/notebook/Marley and me and feel nothing. Although they're not psychopaths, they feel things when it impacts them, or they watch something that takes them to a place that's more personal for them, but can't emphasize with anything that doesn't relate to them.
@GraceNotGurce
@GraceNotGurce 4 жыл бұрын
If only River and the Doctor got to meet Anthony... ugh, River has a brother you guys!
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
I know, that's so weird, isn't it? But they're not related by blood and they never met, so I guess they wouldn't be close anyway.
@GraceNotGurce
@GraceNotGurce 4 жыл бұрын
nightowl I think they would’ve gotten along, but it’s kind of like Anthony got the life that was stolen from Melody; a normal childhood with her parents. Maybe the two of them would’ve bonded over their memories of their parents.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@GraceNotGurce - that could have been an interesting dynamic, actually, yeah. It'd be awesome to see a spin-off where 'Aunt' River reads her Diary entries to Anthony's daughter. The adventures we never saw, you know?
@DogsAreTheBest312
@DogsAreTheBest312 4 жыл бұрын
nightowl I disagree that blood is the reason that they wouldn’t be close. It would simply be because, you know, Anthony was raised by their parents and River wasn’t. Or the age gap. Or a myriad of other things that have nothing to do with blood relation.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@DogsAreTheBest312 - okay...very specific gripe to take with my phrasing.
@PhilOsborne
@PhilOsborne Жыл бұрын
Great short and answers my question that I posted on the angels review.
@mandipowell7797
@mandipowell7797 4 жыл бұрын
😭 You did a FABULOUS overview, as usual.
@brnhd1991
@brnhd1991 4 жыл бұрын
I was one of the people who mentioned this on stream grateful you covered it assume next one will be Night of the Doctor... It's such a lovely ending for Rory and Brian but this with Amy's farewell to doctor ends the story nicely. People always ask why Doctor never tries to go back to them but the point was them leaving him to finally grow and have a family having a life that was the whole point and the doctor respects that with Rivers help and let's them grow up like they needed to. And thats both the sadness but the beauty of the final page the fairy tale ends and we grow up
@maurinet2291
@maurinet2291 4 жыл бұрын
Night of the Doctor was so spectacular! Then gutted by The Husbands of Riversong."
@alanblott4559
@alanblott4559 4 жыл бұрын
I think I loved the story board more than I think I would have liked a live filming............ May be my comics background. But your correct, you do need life experiences to 'enjoy' the nuances of this work. Be awesome my friend.
@SciFiBrony
@SciFiBrony 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that this is the best Who material that Chibnall has done. And that's not meant to be a slight against his reign as showrunner, as much as I didn't like Series 11. PS is just THAT strong a piece!
@colinatkinson9301
@colinatkinson9301 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reminder, really needed to see this again 😢
@zwbailey
@zwbailey 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing video! I can't even think about PS without getting choked up.
@AceOThorns
@AceOThorns 4 жыл бұрын
SIMON watches the short, after Nathaniel's video. He knows he's seen it before, but so much has happened in the intervening years, more so in the last few months. SIMON understands.
@lucypreece7581
@lucypreece7581 4 жыл бұрын
This hits me harder now. I not too long ago lost one of my best friends and someone who was the sweetest and most gentle person ever. My friend Michael Maurice Galvin died October 24th 2018 at the age of only 23. He died alone. I never got to say goodbye. never got to tell him how much me meant to me and i miss him so much all the time. after his death i made Friends with and became really close to his at the time girlfriend Sophie. She was an important pat of he life and he was an important part of hers. she was left behind. we look out for each other now. this sort makes me value everyone in my life but it also makes me value those that get left behind after the death of a loved one. the loneliness and emptiness they must feel and having someone there to talk to means more than anything. during this hard time if you know anyone who is alone message them and talk to them. remind them they are not alone. and do that with all your loved ones because you never know when they are gonna be taken from you. Stay safe everyone xx
@owenoastler101
@owenoastler101 4 жыл бұрын
i love it, but it’s admittedly a lot like blink
@bythebreach
@bythebreach 4 жыл бұрын
Shalom
@ramblesrandom
@ramblesrandom 4 жыл бұрын
Shalom Jackie
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 4 жыл бұрын
You could say the same about every regeneration since the first
@owenoastler101
@owenoastler101 4 жыл бұрын
havahog what?
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 4 жыл бұрын
@@owenoastler101 the idea is the same, but the story context is always different
@charliedawson6318
@charliedawson6318 4 жыл бұрын
Could they could have played it after the credits? Like were they'd usually put a next time trailer.
@maurinet2291
@maurinet2291 4 жыл бұрын
That would have been perfect. But there may have run time issues then. Moffat's episodes are usually maxed as is.
@mwilso2
@mwilso2 4 жыл бұрын
Condolences on the lost of your father Nathaniel.
@lew5547
@lew5547 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish we’d have gotten this at the end of angels take Manhattan. I hated the way Amy and Rory’s ending was so quickly finished like that. Like bringing in Brian and then not having him return just seemed pointless to me, the same with Amy’s parents. That is my big bug bear with Moffat’s companions their families never really seems to matter at the end compared to Rose, Donna and Martha. But I was glad that this scene was written because it added some real closure...
@sam6399
@sam6399 4 жыл бұрын
If Amy and Rory had more kids than River has siblings...
@ravanaRTT
@ravanaRTT 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Young they said that Amy and Rory adopted I’m pretty sure
@sam6399
@sam6399 4 жыл бұрын
Still kinda siblings though even if adopted
@Jedi_Spartan
@Jedi_Spartan 4 жыл бұрын
10:30 Have you done a ranking for Chibnall's pre showrunner episodes? I've seen you do a video covering them but I don't know if you rated them from worst to best.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
I think he did a best and worst for Moffat, but that was after his tenure.
@DogsAreTheBest312
@DogsAreTheBest312 4 жыл бұрын
He also did RTD
@CouncilofGeeks
@CouncilofGeeks 4 жыл бұрын
It’s something I’ll probably do after he leaves.
@Jedi_Spartan
@Jedi_Spartan 4 жыл бұрын
@@CouncilofGeeks Ok, looking forward to it. Will you also include Torchwood?
@maurinet2291
@maurinet2291 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jedi_Spartan He's said before he doesn't plan to do anything with Torchwood unless it's Patreon sponsored or something, because he didn't like the show enough to rewatch it.
@MatiasMontemayor
@MatiasMontemayor 4 жыл бұрын
Could've been a great "post-credit scene" to Angels Take Manhattan, I don't know where else I would include it.
@user-jn1wm3tb8v
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 4 жыл бұрын
Excited for another video!I love your work!
@bookwermofthefandoms
@bookwermofthefandoms 4 жыл бұрын
I love this short.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice that Rory and his Dad's relationship is deleved into. I do not *for a second* buy that Rory is River's father. One nice exchange in The Impossible Astronaut, and literally nothing else. But this is nice, and it lends Rory a lot more development.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 4 жыл бұрын
nightowl he is rivers father but what she could do for a good part of season 6 implies she was conceived on the tardis while any and Roy were traveling with the doctor cause it wasn't until season 7 that companions stop living on the tardis with the doctor cause Matt had come and get Amy and Roy then Clara
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevin10001 - no, I know that Rory's her dad but emotionally there's literally no connection between them, bar one scene.
@standardgrapes
@standardgrapes 4 жыл бұрын
:( That was so sad, I've never known about it before and always thought that it was sad that we never saw Brian.
@chimmychunger
@chimmychunger 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for brining this to my attention and making my ugly cry in my office
@Parker8752
@Parker8752 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the angels. They were so good - in two of the episodes they appeared in (the first story they appeared in, and the first part of the second story they appeared in).
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 4 жыл бұрын
HectorGrey the first 2 plots the angels appear in are the Russell era ones the angels take Manhattan are moffat era angels cause at the end of the second appearance of them they get erased from existence when they were sucked into the crack in the universe this was like a reintroduction to the angels
@Parker8752
@Parker8752 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevin10001 Second angels plot was moffat - it was first season of Matt Smith.
@Fejrus887
@Fejrus887 4 жыл бұрын
I would love for Chibnall to do a target novelization of Power Of Three with a rewritten conclusion (because you know it wasn´t properly finished) and maybe including PS as an additional bonus chapter ^^ I feel it would fit with that story way more than The Angels Take Manhatten.
@serienrausch
@serienrausch 4 жыл бұрын
So did I get this right Pond Life was shot after the Angels take Manhattan? Based on the behind the scenes to that episode I always thought that was Karen and Arthurs last performance on these characters. PS: I would argue that this is Chibnails best work - it always seemed to me like a copy from Blink.
@calliesanderford3410
@calliesanderford3410 4 жыл бұрын
Just thinking about this PS brings on the waterworks for me. At least Brian had the trip with the Doctor and sent back post cards. But, yes, someone must water the plants...
@chickenphat730
@chickenphat730 4 жыл бұрын
They just came out with a new short story type thing, this time from Rory’s perspective. It’s called Doctor Who Lockdown - Rorys story. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fUiGeOn7-qeZo It sort of acts as a P.P.S. I guess it came out around during the Doctors Wife global watch along. And it is written by Neil Gaiman and it has Arthur Darvill and some Karen Gillian, so I would assume it’s canon and stuff, but who knows. It takes place in 1946, 8 years after they got sent back in the Angles take Manhattan. It’s very interesting and it just came out. You could make a Overdue Doctor Who review out of it. (Even if it’s not overdue technically, you should review it).
@gunlovingliberal1706
@gunlovingliberal1706 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I completely missed this the first time around. The shorts became mostly insignificant by this point and I did not watch them all. Chibnall knows how to write hte feels.
@jonathan.palfrey
@jonathan.palfrey 4 жыл бұрын
I hadn't seen it before, because I've watched New Who mostly on disc, and this short isn't on disc. I just found it on KZbin today. I'm no fan of Chibnall, but I agree that he did this well enough. It doesn't resonate with me to the extent that it does with you, although I'm older than you: I have a son, and my parents and grandparents are dead. There are other time-travel stories that affect me more. Well, these things are very subjective. Come to think of it, I have one criticism: Rory had most of his quite long life in which to write to his father, and he wrote only one rather short letter? That seems odd.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
I guess he wanted his son to tell the story.
@jonathan.palfrey
@jonathan.palfrey 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightowl8477: Sure, his son was in a position to answer some questions and fill in some gaps, but he could have neither the memories nor the feelings of his father. He couldn't really speak adequately for his father, to a grandfather he'd never met before. I think Chibnall cut it to one short letter out of dramatic necessity: this is a short story, and furthermore the viewers don't really want to listen to any more. But, if I were in Rory's position, I think I'd probably have written a whole series of letters over the years, for delivery simultaneously.
@henryg4377
@henryg4377 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you were matt Smith before the intro!
@Lahey3
@Lahey3 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t cry watching PS. It’s really unpopular opinion but I don’t buy Rory’s dad. Really, I just don’t get this character. PS is a good addition for me but thats all.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
Same, honestly. In fact, he kinda annoys me sometimes. He feels like a self-insert character for Chris.
@citrinedragonfly
@citrinedragonfly 4 жыл бұрын
I think I have cried every single time I've watched PS. It's beautiful.
@leslieshafer6343
@leslieshafer6343 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, hands away from your face!
@Trikeboy2
@Trikeboy2 4 жыл бұрын
When people say Chibnall doesn't know Doctor Who I wonder if they know he wrote PS, or if they have actually seen it.
@mindyp51d
@mindyp51d 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything you said;.
@Romana125
@Romana125 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Mr. Nathaniel, you forgot a fingernail coloring on one of your fingers. 🙂
@dangerouslytalented
@dangerouslytalented 4 жыл бұрын
The best episode Chibnall ever wrote. And it never happened
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 4 жыл бұрын
You said you'd still be here after I watched it and you *were* - how did you know? Are you a time traveller?
@MrSuperphil
@MrSuperphil 4 жыл бұрын
Hit me in the gut too. Was really good.
@alanblott4559
@alanblott4559 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a grey hair?
@adorkability
@adorkability 4 жыл бұрын
This one gets me every time. *sniff*
@kristienwhitneyjohns2215
@kristienwhitneyjohns2215 4 жыл бұрын
I watched it. It was amazing but now om angry. This proves, without a doubt, that Chibnall can write some beautiful doctor who. SO WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG?
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 4 жыл бұрын
I wish in 11's regeneration the Tardis let him actually see Amy and Rory with a portal or something. I think people would forgive a lack of explanation for that.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm just imagining Rory walking down the TARDIS steps, touching the Doctor's face and saying "Raggedy Man...goodbye." It's too funny an image.
@kevin10001
@kevin10001 4 жыл бұрын
havahog I doubt that's something fans could overlook cause it's some the tardis hasn't been shown it could do before
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevin10001 maybe if it shows the Tardis straining itself in some way. That would explain why it malfunctions after regeneration. Maybe stick a visiting River in their with.
@Gremlin_Goods
@Gremlin_Goods 4 жыл бұрын
You give off bob ross vibes
@WiloPolis03
@WiloPolis03 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched this minisode, I loved it, but I have to ask- How did they have a son that they could send to Brian? Somebody smarter than me please explain this
@prof.evilpictures8696
@prof.evilpictures8696 4 жыл бұрын
Wilo Polis they adopted
@WiloPolis03
@WiloPolis03 4 жыл бұрын
@Prof. Evil Pictures But how did they pull that off if they were trapped in a hotel?
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync 4 жыл бұрын
Wilo Polis they obviously weren’t trapped in the hotel...
@kevinpeterson6468
@kevinpeterson6468 4 жыл бұрын
Never saw this before. I hate you for telling me to watch it (jk) thanks.
@roxxychik06
@roxxychik06 4 жыл бұрын
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