Informative, entertaining, and just fun to watch. Should be a reality TV show. Thanks for sharing.
@johnclamshellsp19697 ай бұрын
That radiator as a whole is a done deal.
@BLKMGK47 ай бұрын
Yeah, even if they get the passages open the surface rust on the outside is awful! Seems like fitting an aluminum unit, if a suitable one could be found, would be smart. What a disaster :(
@Commissar06174 ай бұрын
@@BLKMGK4 just needs to be recored
@428gearbender32 ай бұрын
Lots of solder blume, but those usually clean fine, as a mechanic who owned a radiator shop, I would take a brass and steel core over aluminum any day.
@frankirvine3167 ай бұрын
Great work Scott I enjoy your videos,and I can’t be easy,fixing years of neglect All the best to you all for 2024 Cheers Frank✅
@Telephony9547 ай бұрын
That bus and me have a lot in common, years and years of great service, and a whole lot of abuse. I wonder if my ex ever owned it?
@hifiman45627 ай бұрын
You and me both. 😅
@gregculverwell7 ай бұрын
The difference is that the bus didn't have a choice 😉
@kennenandersen7 ай бұрын
Excuses.
@hifiman45627 ай бұрын
@@gregculverwell It's not easy when kids are involved.
@nightsailor17 ай бұрын
When seperating the radiator, consider keeping the chisel perpendicular to avoid flange damage. Resist the urge to flex it up and down. Also, popsicle sticks as place holders when the gap opens enough. Armchair mechanic here.
@gregorystewart65397 ай бұрын
Hey!! That's my wrench. Lost that years ago..... wondered what happened to it.
@jamestsmith45007 ай бұрын
LOL !!!
@fatbackjacob57387 ай бұрын
Why does vacuuming an old bus engine seem so satisfying? Thank you for another great video.
@Avboden7 ай бұрын
"well there's yer problem.....and that......and that......oh and that too"
@donw39127 ай бұрын
That is a badly maintained engine once upon a time...definitely has had a hard life. Given so many fins are gone on the engine side will the core be salvageable assuming it rods out okay?? This video is a PERFECT example of why not to run straight water in anything you care about surviving. That bottom tank looks nasty...hopefully all of the black seen when you scraped in it a bit isn't rust that's eaten away at the tank. The owner will have a lot of money in this repair but that puppy's gonna run and perform like it looks...beautiful. A long job but i just hope as long as that's leaked water internally that the bearings aren't wiped out. A great video as always Scott🙂
@user-yx6ry5ow2r7 ай бұрын
Another great video Scott,always a pleasure and so informative.
@428gearbender32 ай бұрын
I have some large john deere diesel cylinders that actually got pin holes in them because of not using coolant!! Under pressure test, small amounts of water was dripping off the crank.
@GarnettM7 ай бұрын
Scott I've used Gilley's lye from the Laundry section of grocery store, An old transport mechanic showed me once using it With hot water he spilt some on the bumper it stained the chrome but completely opened the rad up ,But it was still together ran it with engine running, Won't believe what came out nasty ,Same as rad shop 😮.
@tiredtrailer7 ай бұрын
If there was ever an advertisement for regular coolant changes this is it.
@joes34617 ай бұрын
A mini sledge (in the 3-4-5 pound range) should be in every mechanics and/or handy man's too box. So useful in so many ways.👍
@willb30187 ай бұрын
Yes it is!😉
@charlesroer9727 ай бұрын
A various assortment of hammers. No wrenches I knew a guy who used that system . Borrowed wrenches from everyone .
@raygunsforronnie8477 ай бұрын
I've added $10k with every episode on this Wanderlodge after staring at $5k when it was unloaded. We're close to $30k now. If the owner gets out for under $40k, it will be a surprise to me. Scott hasn't gotten to the air/suspension/brakes issues.
@DrewFixIt7 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why people don’t put the proper coolant for the vehicle in radiators, the cost is insignificant by comparison to the long term damage!
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
These are very expensive vehicles too. Only southerners do this long term ;) i know some northerners that have tried it though
@matthewprather73867 ай бұрын
People use water when there’s a leak in the system - in that situation water is a lot cheaper than coolant. And it’s not a good deal to be leaving antifreeze on the ground wherever you go..
@elrobo35687 ай бұрын
I am an old master mechanic, diesel and car and I just learned something about my Jeep. The Pentastar engine grenaded once for the valve train and other components and when it was delivered to me the same thing happened and the head had to be replaced. I was suspicious and took a oil sample and when it came back it showed coolant in the oil. When I met with the service manager he told me that the Pentastar engines were having problems with coolant seeping through the cylinder walls when shut off. They are going to put a bore-scope in overnight so they can get photos for the warranty to replace the engine. He said they have replaced a number of the engines for this problem. There are no cracks just pinholes in the cylinder walls. The only other block I remember doing this is the Ford 7.3 if the additive wasn't put in the coolant. I wish gas engined were made with sleeves but I guess it would cost too much.
@BLKMGK47 ай бұрын
Many gas engines are made with sleeves but pulling and refitting them is a whole different ballgame than on one of these beasts :(
@shrconstruction7 ай бұрын
I invest in 1/8" and 3/16" solid carbide drill bits when working on stuff like that. They drill thru anything like butter. Just had to drill thru a broken hardened easy-out stuck in a cummins 8.3 exhaust block port... No other drill but could do it and welding a nut wouldn't work after repeated tries because the weld keep pulling in the harden steel and was just to brittle to hold torque. Saved me from pulling the engine block. Got the easy-out completely out and saved the block threads... Spendy and easy to break but in a pinch they come in pretty handy at times.
@BassheadGTP7 ай бұрын
SCA's, Selective Coolant Additives. Very important. Cavitation/ corrosion/ electrolysis is no joke folks. Grab an OTC 6043, great flushing tool. Good use to flush coolant lines, cooling jackets, rads and heater cores.
@larrywalker77597 ай бұрын
SUPPLEMENTAL Coolant Additive.
@doncox89667 ай бұрын
There's a good radiator shop in Denver, NC that can recore that radiator.
@stevebot7 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that a flush with CLR will clear a lot of the crap out of heater cores and radiators, you set up a flush with a recirculating pump. Don’t let it run too long, though.
@jimp.72867 ай бұрын
The lesson here in living, yucky color? Don't use the garden hose to fill the radiator! Not unless it's a last resort kind of thing to be made right first chance you get. Another good one. Cheers! 👍
@haydenc27427 ай бұрын
Believe it or not...2oz of MotorKote in the radiator...it will coat the inside of the metal and help prevent rust and corrosion...only problem is...all the rusty crap in the engine block will end up breaking free and settling in the radiator...so a flush after treatment is a pretty good idea! Keep em coming!!!!
@rosspayne22357 ай бұрын
It's cool to see y'all wrenchin again, how's Lenny coming along?
@willb30187 ай бұрын
Or finding wrenches. 😂
@bchrisl14917 ай бұрын
I can say from experience that water in the oil will wear away babbitt bearings very quickly. That includes connecting rods and wrist pins, not just the mains. I'd go over the radiator with the high pressure sprayer first then rod out the tubes. Finally i'd soak it overnight in Evaporust then rinse it out. In fact an overnight soak of Evaporust soak in the whole block might be a good idea.
@cwmbc7 ай бұрын
It might be worth considering. If the radiator core is that bad...the engine water ways are going to have similar buildup. Would you run a coolant flush through the system first. Before draining and filling with proper coolant. As all it would need is for some of the silt to dislodge out of the engine to work its way back to the radiator and create blockages again.
@kingdomofspeed83907 ай бұрын
It’s not his first day. I think he’s got a handle on it.
@Chief351L7 ай бұрын
Proves that Straight Water isn’t the best answer to the needs and the missing additives that the coolant provides for the engine works in many ways like the electrolytes that plain water is missing for our bodies. When the miles start adding up the areas of neglect compile and there isn’t always a replacement or fix! Take care of things!
@Gadget03437 ай бұрын
There used to be radiator repair shops that could sort things like that out pretty well. Do they still exist or is everything just throw away and replace these days?
@1320fastback7 ай бұрын
Radiator shops are still out there. Had the OE radiator in my 32 year old Dodge recored last year.
@jeffcooper57897 ай бұрын
Hard to find a shop in my area.
@jamestsmith45007 ай бұрын
Seems like good radiator shops are a dying trade. You may still find shops to do truck and bus radiators, but metal small vehicle radiators have almost gone to plastic top and bottom tanks (non repairable).
@hifiman45627 ай бұрын
My local shut down a while ago. You could show up, turn in the radiator and they'd hand you a ticket for receipt. "come back in a couple days" 😢
@willb30187 ай бұрын
They exist but not many around. Lucky for me, there is one near me in Northern Virginia. Very handy. They also do starters, alternators generators (if you have older car). Been there over 75 years. Used them a couple times for both radiator work and generator rebuild.
@rusty77207 ай бұрын
If you "Cook" a Detroit youv'e got trouble all the way down,there are no short cuts .
@Charger19087 ай бұрын
Looking at the air filter it looks like that engine could have injected a bunch of dirt through the turbo. I think they call that “dusted” and do you ever find cracks between the coolant holes in the block?
@davidwright27067 ай бұрын
Hope this guy has some deep pockets. I'm sure there are more surprises to come.
@edwardantrobusjr22537 ай бұрын
😮 In my opinion, as bad as the radiator is, the cooling jacket in the block is likely full of the same junk. (Gotta love stop leak) I'd send the block & heads to the machine shop.
@jimjoe99457 ай бұрын
Have you thought about getting a laser cleaning machine? Removes rust, paint, oil, grease.
@carlthor917 ай бұрын
They are nice, just horribly expensive. So far. And I do mean HORRIBLY expensive, for a good one. Cheap one start around $5,300.00 USD, better ones, $12,000.00 and up.
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
I need to raise my prices by about $250 per hour just to be able to afford to buy a fraction of the stuff people on the internet say i need…
@siaripop77 ай бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey Then it arrives and you use it once and it sits on a shelf for decades waiting for the next customer with a forty-year-old radiator that needs to be repaired!
@carlthor917 ай бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey I agree, I can't justify half of the fancy equipment. Best wishes, hope the worst of this storm, is no where near you.
@x_Dude17 ай бұрын
Nice protective layer applied on the radiator. 😉
@galegregory97comcast7 ай бұрын
Hey it looks like he also have your own coral reef in the bottom of the radiator
@jeffcooper57897 ай бұрын
I see a trip to Nashville for the radiator. What a mess. Was the deck straight?
@ServantofYaHi7777 ай бұрын
Looks like that water came out of the creek.
@jamiesuejeffery7 ай бұрын
I'm only eight minutes into the video. This looks like a complete in-frame rebuild to me since you have it torn apart so much. That is going to cost a pretty penny! In for a penny, in for a pound.
@upriver43107 ай бұрын
Could the liner o-rings also be leaking. That looked like and awful lot of water running into the sump!
@abpsd737 ай бұрын
I wondered the same thing myself, especially with the amount of corrosion on the head to block o-rings pretty much every cooling system seal will likely have the same problem.
@simsjam7 ай бұрын
Is it really worth fixing that radiator with all those issues? Seems like after all the labor to fix it you have a ticking bomb for leaks!
@itjustlookslikethis7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly, why bother fixing it? It's junk.
@wazza33racer7 ай бұрын
so much neglect..........and people wonder why break downs happen.
@2packs4sure7 ай бұрын
What is the procedure for sealing all the new o-rings into a somewhat pitted seats instead of a nicely machined seats?
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen nicely machined ones. ;) They are usually a bit crispy on this old stuff
@2packs4sure7 ай бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey OK so the o-rings will just drop in to a fairly rough surface and seal,, well that's good !!
@williamgurtner47597 ай бұрын
Scott, Wouldn't liner height have something to do with that one cylinder ending up like that. Meaning that if that particular liner was set say a few thousands lower, cause it to start leaking?
@jamesjacoby7 ай бұрын
Inside that radiator looks like Moab after a rain storm.
@SuperMAZ0077 ай бұрын
The inside of the radiator looks like there are barnacles living inside it. Probably also wise to wash out the block cause there might be nasty things inside it as well. Thermostats should be replaced also at this point.
@wesleypulkka74477 ай бұрын
Scott are those radiators so expensive that you can save money by doing all that labor? That thing looks pretty bad to me!
@crashandburngaming51037 ай бұрын
It's amazing people dont check their cooling systems more. Pretty obvious if you look at the rad fins lol. It's hard to miss.
@lloydrobinson70817 ай бұрын
keep the clips coming
@beckyumphrey26267 ай бұрын
Great video. How do you check the block for flatness when doing.an inframe?
@hotpuppy17 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see what comes out with the liners. With all that crap, I bet they will be hard to pull>>lots or corrosion and gunk on the o-rings. If the inside of the block looks like the inside of the radiator, I think I'd pull the whole engine and have it tanked and checked for cracks. probably cheaper to find another engine. Some clueless people just should own cars, trucks, motor homes, houses, ANYTHING! Feel bad for the poor person that buys these disasters after the previous owner mucks it all up.
@beckyumphrey26267 ай бұрын
Kroil for the win. Best stuff made.
@Rev1Kev7 ай бұрын
Looks like it’s time for a NEW radiator and a rebuilt engine and she’ll be back on the road soon.
@thomasglynn22827 ай бұрын
Detroit's would crack a cylinder head if you over heated them.
@davidmccormick10587 ай бұрын
I’d put a new rad in it. I’m sure they are expensive but that one is going to be nothing but trouble.
@davidholder32077 ай бұрын
You going to check the camshaft?
@Stevemax077 ай бұрын
Those radiator shots remind me of video from the Titanic on the bottom of the ocean....yikes!
@mack15417 ай бұрын
that radiator looks like it could do with a dip in a hot caustic tank
@scottbenjamine48907 ай бұрын
boy, that is a whole job in itself just dealing with that radiator getting it apart. let alone trying to clean it all out. water is cheap,,,,,,but not for long!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,coolant could have saved thousands in the long run.
@seancasey24447 ай бұрын
It doesn't look like someone took very good care of the engine area.
@jaygraham54077 ай бұрын
That core is JUNK
@wdcjunk7 ай бұрын
See how this failed - I would think rust jacking action against the head and block basically caused the boring failure which eventually jacked everything up to allow it into the pistons. I wonder which actually caused the failure - the o ring itself or the rust. Ultimately it comes down to use the proper coolant!
@wdcjunk7 ай бұрын
This was supposed to say “interesting to see how this failed”
@chadwoodward50247 ай бұрын
Hey Scott as I watch this there were 6,045 views, and at this point in the video which is about halfway through all of a sudden it's 6,075
@tedshantz61937 ай бұрын
that rad is dun
@user-KrackerJack7 ай бұрын
I don't envy you and the that radiator one bit
@timwatson38797 ай бұрын
...it has to be a hard decision ...but when do you reach the point where NEW is actually better/cheaper than rebuilding existing?
@toddhowe4277 ай бұрын
Are ya gonna pull liners? As bad as the cooling system is, I’d be worried about cavitation…
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
Of course we are
@toddhowe4277 ай бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey Silly question! In for a penny, in for a pound…
@MA-wo3fb7 ай бұрын
We used Nalcool 2000 by the drums, Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to replace the liner seals in the 92 series once it has been over heated?
@eaglebrink7 ай бұрын
That ting looks like you should fill it with evaporust once you've rebuilt it....... OMG that thing is allmost gone....
@veil677 ай бұрын
Scott is it the worst shape of a cooling system or you have seen worst in the past ?
@@BusGreaseMonkey this is a nasty mess but it's not the worst cooling system i ever saw either ,,worst radiator i ever worked on was the radiator in my peterbilt 359 ,,it was so corroded and filthy it looked like it had salt water in it for coolant ,,it took a full removal of the engine and sending it to a machine shop for a boil out to get the rust out of the block
@fw14217 ай бұрын
Instead of using a gasket scraper why don’t you use a scotchbright disk on a right angle high speed? That radiator should go to a radiator shop where it can be chemically cleaned and any leaks repaired.
@jamestsmith45007 ай бұрын
Some people don't know how to properly use a right angle drill with a scotch bright disk. It's easy to over sand one spot and cause a dip in the machined surface.
@fw14217 ай бұрын
@@jamestsmith4500 that’s why you use a soft disk,less chance to over clean.
@Thuddster7 ай бұрын
OMG you found the monkey wrench!! 😮 The curse is lifted and the bus just got a new lease on life, in more ways than one. 😊
@TimsWorkshopTJY7 ай бұрын
Yikes, that's what I call job security
@jaygraham54077 ай бұрын
I doubt that radiator will withstand a cleaning
@itjustlookslikethis7 ай бұрын
My thoughts too, just replace it.
@jaygraham54077 ай бұрын
@itjustlookslikethis The core is rotted Away. Lots of fins are gone
@chadwynia50217 ай бұрын
On something like this, would it be worthwhile to pop all the liners out and at least put new orings on?
@rickcockcroft75907 ай бұрын
I think that radiator needs to go into the scrap pile , or head to radiator shop … it’s pretty toast. ( I’m still watching)
@akawireguy11977 ай бұрын
Would an oscillating multi tool make short work of separating those pieces? Assuming you can keep it under control.
@deweydodo66917 ай бұрын
even the radiator end tanks might be rust pitted bad.
@galegregory97comcast7 ай бұрын
Looks like it had a great mud bath
@galegregory97comcast7 ай бұрын
U got this
@artmcewen31657 ай бұрын
How many hours can you put into refurbishing that rad before replacing it is more economical?
@stanpatterson50337 ай бұрын
Well, for the answer, you'd need to know the price of a replacement. Go out and try to find one. Doubt you'll find any sitting around on a shelf, so you'll have to have one made to spec. In addition to the price, how long can the project wait for a proper replacement to be found or made? This one is still serviceable, after 8 hours of labor. Ready to go back into service, and as Scott figured, good for probably another ten years, maybe more if it got painted and protected.
@greggwinovich81967 ай бұрын
A 8 v 92 turboed and after cooled lots of power!!! Be a hot rod when you are done.
@DEW4097 ай бұрын
The fins on that radiator are so rotten and loose, you can clean out the tubes all you want, but you will never get close to the cooling capacity it is supposed to have.
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
You don’t know what you are saying. It’s got one bad spot thats only one row deep of six rows this radiator will be 95%+ as efficient as new when done.
@americanrambler49727 ай бұрын
This whole video. All I see is “Ca-Ching, Ca-Ching, Ca-Chinga” as all the labor rapidly adds up on the messed up bits, pieces and chunks. At what point do those parts get tossed and new ones come on board due to the labor cost being so high that just a remove and replace is the right choice? There is a ton of time and labor being spent on that radiator just to get it apart and it looks to me not a whole lot of life is left in any of it. Nor economic life based on repair time and effort.
@graylingbishop19057 ай бұрын
Hey Scott I think somebody got in bind and put creek water in the bus
@ruxoneto65607 ай бұрын
It has been going on for a loooonnngg time that didnt happen over night , probaly over 5 years & or very bad bad water. Was in Battle mtn Nevada & cummins with bad counter bores put town tap water at service station, drove 70 miles i thought i put barn red paint in engine!! ( bad water)
@1974kenm7 ай бұрын
Who spends the kind of money for a Wanderlodge and then neglects maintenance that bad?
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
Usually a owner gets ill or just too old to use it then they sit for long periods of time. Then new owner gets something that’s behind on maintenance not knowing what issues need attention and then they drive it like a car and just push it to its very limits and beyond.
@swampy6x6597 ай бұрын
Over heating strikes again like the grim reaper . Causing mass destruction . Owners not doing enough maintenance ,,simple as pressurising cooling system every service ie 6--12 mths . Could be simply avoided . Some owners donot no what mechanical sympathy is ...............
@mfc45917 ай бұрын
Someone went on a fishing trip and parked that bus at a campsite near the river, the river water must have been used to fill the radiator.............bring a new radiator..........!
@jeffbyrd79767 ай бұрын
Looks like fun.
@kennethcarr25117 ай бұрын
How is the new conex cover holding up with all the wind we are having in Middle Tennessee?
@garysoykin27837 ай бұрын
Finding a good employee that will stick with you for many years is very hard to find in America. That's the problem America has other countries. People are happy to be working. Out here, people want to be the boss the first week and then they leave crazy. It would be nif. You could have 2 great employees, Scott. Don't stop looking. It's a bummer, your son and didn't stick around. I see nothing but a great future working for the family bus repair. Shop oh well life goes on
@jamestsmith45007 ай бұрын
Some employees want more than they are worth.
@michaelreynolds18927 ай бұрын
With the heads and pan off are you not going to replace the liner o rings ?
@BusGreaseMonkey7 ай бұрын
Of course we are but we are making sure the block is good before we start rebuilding it.
@johnjubie71447 ай бұрын
It seems to me that the radiator isn't worth the time and effort , replace.
@davidowen8887 ай бұрын
EWEEHHHH😬 the BA-CHA-CHING radiator 😅
@ojustracing7 ай бұрын
That radiator is junk. The copper fins are falling apart. Needs to be recored or new replacement. I've recore hundreds of radiators.
@itjustlookslikethis7 ай бұрын
I think Scott knows it's junk. He let the owner take it apart to show him what mistreating an engine will do to your wallet.
@deanscherer6877 ай бұрын
Looks like dex cool resido
@brucebates13027 ай бұрын
Finding a wrench inside the head of a working engine . That is probably a first.
@itjustlookslikethis7 ай бұрын
I'd stop working if I found something like that.
@shadetreewelding7 ай бұрын
Are you going to replace the radiator?
@BlackBuzzzard7 ай бұрын
Please mention sometime if a new radiator can even be sourced and how much? My guess is it could be as high as 4-5k new?
@beckyumphrey26267 ай бұрын
$10k
@TheClampettmobile7 ай бұрын
I missed the intro - am I to assume that the current owner bought this coach in this condition??
@davidbarnsley84867 ай бұрын
You found someone’s missing 10 mm Scott 😂😂😂😂
@desertbob68357 ай бұрын
What's wrong with this housecar is patently obvious...a Texan had it.