Overhyped

This is the greatest elite four of All Time
HugeCharles / @moistcharlieclipsoffi...

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

To be fair, back when a lot of people were playing this for the first time, they didn't expect Cynthia to have an overleveled Garchomp before the fight

[@timmydadog]

First reply on a commenter lmfao

[@bluenote4024]

Only 32 seconds

[@skateplays8880]

Can you at the very least say something more interesting or engaging instead of saying the most generic ass shit to farm for as much likes as possible ffs

[@qtrureborn]

*I feel like this guy holds all the knowledge of the universe* 😂

[@dogdude259]

@@skateplays8880 damn you mad

[@LekkaiZekkai]

Charlie talking about how easy it is while using 47 full restores on his Snorlax is gold

[@asap6763]

Tbf that does make it easy they give so much money to the player unlike fire red where the money is limited and its a very real possibility you dont have any money to buy items for the elite four so u have to overlevel like hell

[@finnian3931]

As an adult, Pokemon is laughably easy for this reason. It's a cheap strategy that is enabled by the game design, anyways. That's okay, but I always kinda wish pokemon had restrictions for cheap strategies like this, instead of self-restriction.

[@diegomedina9637]

@@finnian3931 I don't buy restore items at all. just buy as many outfits as i can and the rest are spent on Pokeballs.

[@kenkr9449]

@@asap6763 wtf?? U forgot that Vs seeker exist? Wiith amulet coin u can earn so many money by re-battling

[@TheVeryBestBaby]

@@finnian3931 it's called Nuzlocke, buddy. Your Pokémon dies? Tough shit; it's fucking dead. Forever. Look up Haydunn. He's streaming a Nuzlocke challenge with additional IRON MAIDEN rules (no healing items, Set not Switch, no leveling passed the boss's level). Welcome to the rice fields.

[@danielm2123]

"I am a 27 year old man, there is not a single baby on this planet I couldn't beat the shit out of. I am proven my superiority. I am at least twice as smart as a child." -Critical

[@coldzoroark6440]

He's the same age as Cyrud

[@hansbloodsmith]

The same height too >_>

[@Griffo4]

@@hansbloodsmith5 foot 6 aint even that short

[@Yourmomssneakylink]

​@@Griffo4Spoken like a dwarf

[@robertrichatd9222]

Him sending out snorlax against spiritomb with the slow reveal that it only has normal type moves is comedy gold

[@Shadross]

I don't have a meaningful reply, just felt like giving a human response with all of those bot posts.

[@MrMinecraftGamer456]

@@Shadross so many bots

[@imbroke6195]

The snorlax set is a beauty until there’s anything that stops normal

[@boxofturtles761]

But snorlax pulled through with draining kiss

[@imbroke6195]

@@boxofturtles761 true that

[@python1972]

Charlie: "Man everyone hyped the shit out of Cynthia" Also Charlie: *Spams full restore on Snorlax*

[@donda3545]

yes

[@mextyle_327]

Yeah btw why so many bots???🤔

[@captain.snowman4769]

To use metronome lol

[@notvex3987]

To be fair Cynthia also does that alot

[@DevilMayCarry]

And got help from chat lol

[@Leo-fy3ij]

I can't believe Charlie isn't playing a nuzlocke, absolutely disgusting seeing people play the game the way they want

[@iceeceja6763]

right? thats wat I told my friends I first tried her

[@Real_Genji]

Nozlocke is fucking cringe

[@Yoshiwi]

yeah right? people should just stop enjoying things. Thats so disgusting

[@Leo-fy3ij]

@@Real_Genji ty for the correction

[@michaelgallacher4800]

The game the way he wants lol hahahaha you must be joking right. Twitch chat played the game not him

[@darcidious99]

Critical: "man everyone overhyped cynthia" Also critical: has a chat telling him every decision to make and what to expect.

[@Maxwelldog]

And playing on swtich

[@TailzDMW]

Well he doesn’t play Pokémon often how tf is he supposed to know everything like you Pokémon enthusiast

[@Deedo_67]

Any game that can be beaten through twitch chat advice can’t be that fuckin hard, it’s Twitch chat lol.

[@NehpetsKDoom]

Watching him look to chat for every single pokemon that came out was really disappointing. Game is easy enough as is.

[@FeedMyPets]

@@TailzDMW i mean i think it kinda helps when you have over 10,000 people telling you exactly what you have to do. i don’t know if he would’ve had the same result during this playthrough were it not for people constantly reminding him of pretty basic things like "no dude…electric moves don’t work against a ground based pokémon…"

[@conic3635]

I was just skipping around the video a bit and heard out of context: "I'm a 27 year old man, there is no baby in the world I couldn't beat the shit out of". I haven't laughed harder all day.

[@boterham7144]

Thats the end, how far do you skip😂

[@BBWahoo]

adhd?

[@BBWahoo]

@Twitter User sus

[@avokello]

he said that RIGHT as I was reading your comment 💀

[@chance6296]

@@BBWahoo domestic abuse?

[@sdx3918]

Even if you play it perfectly just remember these words: "Garchomp used dragon rush!" *"It's a critical hit!"*

[@verdammdeaggsd7736]

When you use dragon rush: 10% accuracy When Cynthia uses dragon rush: *chuckles* I'm in danger

[@borg4912]

This new garchomp wiped almost my whole team cuz it was able to get two sword dances off and spammed earthquake and dragon claw on the rest of my team, the only reason I won was because the garchomp didn’t get a 3rd sword dance, if it had I’d have lost

[@fluffyplayery3017]

"You don't get to be Pokémon league champion without knowing how to spam full restores!"

[@grookeydluffy3648]

lmao a pokemon golder reference for some reason I wasn't expecting that

[@aboudi2779]

MATTYMB HAD THE BEST SERIES

[@TailzDMW]

Pokémon Golder was ahead of its time

[@frankuraku5622]

Goddamn, i havent heard that for years.

[@fatheroftwo852]

Bro, was literally thinking this and was wondering if anyone else was gonna reference it, make sure y'all watch Matty's new stuff, it's just as good if not funnier at times :D

[@smol_gnome3343]

I spent so long trying to beat Cynthia as a kid, this makes me so nostalgic

[@neurotic_nerd3808]

I beat to cynthia

[@Jindictave]

@@neurotic_nerd3808 🤨

[@zebraterabyteztproductions9595]

Imagine having a good childhood.

[@fresh8462]

@@zebraterabyteztproductions9595 weird flex but aig

[@cullenpinney2997]

@@neurotic_nerd3808 *adjust tie*

[@loudwhispre9406]

Charlie asking "What is that? Is it something I can Close Combat?" captures the very essence of every kid playing with their over-leveled starter, only attacking moves, with the highest possible base power. And I'm so here for that.

[@tubax926]

20 year old here who just played a Pokemon game for the first time in his life. I did indeed have so much fun overlevelling my starter empoleon while making sure all my moves were the highest power possible. Not going to play another pokemon game though it looks like the same experience but with a slightly different story and better (or worse) graphics. Fun one and done game 10/10

[@dalynbratcher9888]

Keepin it real, Cynthia was always the only real challenge at this point in the game. But damn, her theme still gets me hyped to this day.

[@hashi.]

cynthia was hell for me as a kid

[@Stickyz]

@@hashi. that's what bothers me because people played this dp when they were kids then they play this game now and pretend the game is way easier and they didn't get older. Not accusing you of that just pointing it out.

[@ekirbo]

the exp share being on all mons ends up taking away a bit of the challenge since mons are generally higher level to challenge her now

[@raver-kun2035]

The broken exp share is what really made the game really easy

[@dalynbratcher9888]

@@Stickyz Nah, the only difference in the old and new from what I can tell is now the game tells you what moves you have are effective and not, even though beforehand it was always pretty obvious what types things were upon seeing them.

[@sugma6723]

Charlie: “I hope I get a one hit” Infernape (joe rogan) : *”it’s entirely possible”*

[@timmydadog]

These bots r dum

[@jimmosart-world6327]

Epic joke

[@sugma6723]

@@jimmosart-world6327 it’s KZbin bro you can only expect a certain tier of comedy 😂

[@Kerim9991]

years of MMA and DMT made him a formidable opponent

[@MindTheMadness]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4Sydn6Xntikp9E

[@ryans8907]

"not worth $60, just play the originals" the originals: "75 bucks at gamestop, preowned"

[@finnian3931]

luckily for you there's something called emulation!

[@AZ-zz4kn]

Or you can find people selling it on eBay for like $20-$30. Got Pokémon platinum off of there a while back and while it’s not legit, the content is exactly like the original

[@ryans8907]

@@finnian3931 not the same FeelsStrongMan

[@maister482]

@@AZ-zz4kn my 3ds won’t even read reproduced carts

[@AwakeningShadows]

It looks like Platinum is better than the DP remakes.

[@Fanimati0n]

"Man, Cynthia was so easy you hyped the fuck out of Cynthia." *Needed Chat's help, the power of friendship, & had to spam full restores*

[@vzreo]

she is ridiculously easy

[@joregvds967]

@@vzreo Not for charlie.

[@goobleron]

You're really sucking the copium down aren't ya, pokemon games are easy.

[@mr.pyromaniac628]

@@goobleron exactly

[@mr.pyromaniac628]

is that what you not did to beat cynthia? or did you use “skill” for a brainless AI

[@trevorwhiteboy2649]

Watching Charlie contemplate whether Joe Rogan will outspeed Golem as someone who actually plays Pokémon is hilarious

[@gun_exe8387]

Yea haha😐😐 your such an expert

[@TbdPonchoBillionaire]

@@gun_exe8387 I mean as someone who has played Pokémon for 20 years shit is pretty funny. Like oversized, chunky boulder with arms is gonna outspeed fire monkey? That’s pretty funny.

[@wolfcub1835]

@@gun_exe8387 yeah haha 😐😐 you must be fun at parties

[@paradise7235]

@@wolfcub1835 haha same to you 😐

[@scoobiusmaximus9508]

Watching only this video I was surprised that it got outspeed by Lucario. I assume it has like a - speed nature or something.

[@danielhavoc889]

Charlie: *Uses a million full restores and constantly asks chat what to do, and has built up the literal perfect team comp based on chats input* Also Charlie: "EZ and overhyped"

[@surfingcipher1059]

Like the boss didn't spam full restore.

[@kingkohwul]

@@surfingcipher1059 cynthia actually doesn't use any in this fight

[@jarrickhillery8664]

@@surfingcipher1059 if I’m not mistaken, opposing trainers only use 3 per match max

[@omarferdous1671]

I heard it's also in switch lol

[@mutantraze3681]

@@jarrickhillery8664 not fax. I’ve seen cynthia use 5 restores for her milotic alone

[@law2268]

Charlie was doubted from the start that he couldn't beat Cynthia. Charlie simply used his MC abilities and turned the doubt into a superpower

[@serenamathews8191]

try pokemon reborn it's fanmade game with 18 gyms and new terrain types

[@ryanblack3686]

Tbf his chat did most of the doubting and most of the work. Was more of a "you can't do this, let us."

[@Infinitynous-gg6vs]

Wow there are so many bots comments and links

[@joregvds967]

@@ryanblack3686 He also used a very strong legendary who almost one shotted milotic when the move isnt super effective. dialga is very op if he didnt use it cynthia would be a diff story but his team was stacked lol, i was unprepared and didnt have chat so she almost beaten me

[@Soogooroo]

It's because chat told him everything about Cynthia, if not he would be get fried by her

[@natelecarde962]

Charlie: "Cynthia is overhyped." Pokemon fans: *"So you have chosen death."*

[@n3k0hgueimis]

Cynthia is just a regular SMT boss

[@sun332s7]

He’s right rho

[@jojohnkonica4607]

are you part of those pokemon fans?

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

As a massive pokemon fan, Cynthia is incredibly overrated.

[@fukunaga-kane]

Iris Haxorus is harder

[@Zarod89]

The friendship mechanic in this game is insane, also earthquake countered half my team so elite four was tough haha

[@weegee9072]

Friendship just makes this game like kids first Pokémon. The original actually had challenge but with this feature, it’s just dumb now.

[@asap6763]

Use the other half

[@mitrimind1027]

Yeah friendship and free switch ins really are pokemon training wheels.

[@roskari8772]

@@weegee9072 in the original cynthia had shit items and was dumb tho. But i agree the friendship is stupid

[@RWAsur]

Friendship way too broken lol

[@elliottblecker9020]

It's honestly hilarious to see Charlie play this game and not at all understand speed or other mechanics Edit: This is why I love you with all my heart Charlie

[@hollowlord8548]

@Lil Naz X bot

[@RyDawgE]

Watching him be mesmerized by the Baton pass infernape was funny as hell

[@magicmaximo2416]

Saying this like the majority of people who played it do

[@lildvsvevo]

I didn't understand what you mean until I started watching the video and I spit out my taco laughing haha

[@dooplon5083]

@@magicmaximo2416 I mean it's not that hard of a stat to comprehend, lol

[@devastatheseeker9967]

Charlie: this is overhyped Also charlie: is literally having thousands of people coach him, has a legendary and is using switch mode.

[@lemonshark9584]

fr

[@sableyesgemeyes7918]

Indeed

[@GigaChadsAreReal]

The irony is lost on him

[@originaljoke4502]

can someone explain what these words mean i havent paid attention to a pokemon game since red

[@zwein1817]

What's wrong with having a legendary exactly? Isn't that the point of the game, utilizing the better monsters?

[@Sb79612]

The real reason it was so easy was really switch mode. Changing it to set makes you play a whole lot more different. Even if you still used a ton of items in battle, set makes it much more of a fair fight

[@entitledindustries9135]

i'd argue the use of potions is a far greater advantage than switch mode

[@Sb79612]

@@entitledindustries9135 disagree. If you have a decently fast Pokemon with a super effective move, you can just witch mode always to a OHKO and never take damage, whereas potions still require you to take hits.

[@gryphon4150]

I played her in set mode and used zero items during the fights. Ended up having to switch my Drapion for a Roserade just to kill her Milotic because two hone claw boosted night slashes from a weavile and a brave bird from a staraptor still wasn't enough to kill her.

[@luismorales865]

@@Sb79612 Id say in the Cynthia fight it is 100% potions just from what we saw Alex Jones do. But I agree that switch mode does have a greater impact and is probably the closest the game has gotten to a "hard mode'

[@mutantraze3681]

Switch mode plus milotic just letting his dialga live when dat bitch absolutely has ice beam. But yh fr. Its super unfair using switch battle

[@Logo1770]

Jim Wool’s character arc is something that will be passed down through generations

[@ajjohnson678]

Bro 50% of everyone that ever gen 4'd used a Mamoswine. The other 50% used weavile 😂😂

[@NanachL-]

@@ajjohnson678 wdym

[@ajjohnson678]

@@NanachL- Mamoswine arc is dogshit lmao

[@NanachL-]

@@ajjohnson678 hes not talking about mamoswine though

[@woodedpiece3601]

Charlie looked so shocked when Bertha used a full restore on Golem

[@thecoomchalice5441]

Hello, display picture twinsy

[@ImAviex]

Charlie playing on shift and using hella items but then talking shit is hysterical

[@TheRealCereal]

Like to see him nuzlocke xD

[@minecraft-hw7kh]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5LYfpRmortgntk

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@TheRealCereal i did a one pokemon challenge on accident as a ten year old on diamond and pearl and never got knock out

[@crtnyrey8665]

@@gameuniverse5973 cap

[@asap6763]

Shift is a very very marginal increase in difficulty oh no i took one hit cause i dident know cynthia was sending out her gastrodon on my fire type man if only there was a thing called type matchup advantages and full restores

[@thatkid604]

I love how Jim Wool has become so legendary that Charlie even named his Mamoswine after him.

[@colebrown4927]

I was thinking the same thing

[@MindTheMadness]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4Sydn6Xntikp9E

[@minecraft-hw7kh]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5LYfpRmortgntk

[@mineman633]

Well from watching this i can say the one thing they definitely improved was the speed of the health bars depleting

[@imurderpeople9744]

Yes

[@Ph3nom3nalN0is3]

I was being told by a friend that her over leveled Garchomp was getting EVs added to it, but apparently in exchange the player character got access to friendship ex machina. Game looks like a nice call back for sure though. The underground with my brother and small friend group was good times.

[@dannyboy9872]

Being able to switch Pokémon as the opponent throws them in is the difficulty switch in Pokémon. You can turn it off in the settings and it definitely makes the game marginally harder.

[@mangyangghos]

@@TailzDMW Pretty sure it's been an option since the first generation (Switch - Set option). It defaults to switch in every new game, so unless you actively chose to change that setting then you may have never noticed it.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Bruh i use just one Pokemon and sweep Cynthia so eh

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

@@gameuniverse5973 Let me guess you use x items and over level? Yeah anyone can do that.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@TopOfAllWorlds i dint even know what x items were when I was ten and i was at the sixties

[@sirplayalot11x]

@@gameuniverse5973 this cynthia or OG cynthia? Cause this Cynthia's pokemon actually are iv maxed, are ev trained, and have items and competitive movesets. But this games X boosting items are actually insanely good, as they buff your stats sharply unlike earlier generations.

[@JD-iu6rv]

Honestly I’m having fun with these remakes. They are easier than the originals but I love coming home after a long day of work laying down with blankets and just playing Pokémon.

[@nivonghat7384]

I guess it's easier since, you know, you've probably played it before and know what to expect from the harder teams

[@rance8838]

@@nivonghat7384 no, it's easier because you have party wide exp share from the start

[@Ultimatedunker]

For real, I’m about to hit the level where my Pokémon won’t obey because of exp share

[@thisiswarhuhwow6120]

@@Ultimatedunker that only happens with pokemon you didn't catch yourself

[@alexanderowens7265]

@@thisiswarhuhwow6120 probably cause he doesnt have the gym badges for those higher levels for a new play though, probably.

[@christophermcbroom2375]

Can't believe Charlie almost lost his Dialga to a freaking QUAGSIRE lmao

[@iamaperson7545]

I mean quagsire can wall zacian so not too much of a surprise

[@seanchurch694]

@@iamaperson7545 I mean he switched a steel type in on a mon with stab earthquake. What’d he expect?

[@SuperMatthew345]

Well, EXP share is forced on and the affection system breaks the game by making it a cakewalk. "Survived the hit so you won't feel sad, got a crit so you'd feel happy.." Of course Charlie didn't have trouble.

[@nilsus8365]

Yeah these two things bother me as well. But I just we have to accept that their target audience are kids and kids like easy games ig

[@kleitos6162]

No one had trouble with this game, yet everyone says it's difficult, hence the title.

[@Kn1cknackz0]

@@kleitos6162 Really? People are saying it's difficult? How the heck

[@jackflynn-oakley6137]

I bought a 3DS with Omega Ruby in lockdown last year with a sudden urge to bash some Pokemon, I couldn’t believe that they give you the EXP share so early on... All the longer routes your rival heals you and they literally give you a Latias half way through the game, Pokemons never been a ‘hard’ game but it’s mental how easy they’ve made them now

[@TheTobyOMG]

@@nilsus8365 They could at least make an option to turn those off though.

[@jletterpbpp8259]

If you notice at 4:14 , we just saw a glimpse of true fear. This is the first time we have ever seen Charlie where he truly felt fear. This is the greatest scare of All Time.

[@MindTheMadness]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4Sydn6Xntikp9E

[@adrianwheeler1936]

Yo what is it with KZbin comments being bombarded w spambots

[@Neoicecreaman]

> Chat spoonfeeding the entire fight > Switch mode on > Using the legendary > Spamming heal items "this game for children is too easy for me"

[@calebkimberley9253]

You’re literally just clicking words 😂😂😂😂😂

[@FaunaSmile]

"Not worth $60, just play the originals" Meanwhile: *The originals costing like double*

[@ltb1345]

True, most DS games cost a small fortune now.

[@hwstar9416]

emulation

[@kleitos6162]

You can download a rom of the original games for free in less than a minute.

[@Idkwhoiam1400]

facte: they don’t. OG diamond and pearl (despite being VERY rough around the edges) cost around $40 rn, with platinum being around $80ish at the moment. even so, emulation is always an option

[@captain.snowman4769]

Just go to your local thrift or pawn and you can get it there durt cheap

[@weebsquit347]

Cynthia is so casual for being a champion. No wonder she's a fan favorite, apart from giving many people a beating.

[@GalaxyStandard77]

i like Alder, he was more relaxed to the point he was never at his post.

[@ThatHavardStudent]

Steven is pretty chill too.Man just wants to be with his rocks.

[@khalduras784]

Its also most likely helps that she' the first female npc pokemon champion who has a dope design that also probably became alot of kids pokemon character crush lmao

[@FeedMyPets]

@@khalduras784 (in my opinion) apart from Lance she has probably the coolest design of any Elite 4 champion in any of the iterations of the pokémon games

[@ooofyikes7253]

She's always been my favourite due to how humble she is as a character, she comes across as just another trainer when you meet her at Eterna City for the first time which is sick

[@tayhay.s]

Cynthia in Black and white was a Menace! Did not expect her to be in a small, quaint house with a decked out team.

[@chakrashadow3220]

Oh for sure, that fight took legitimate know-how and patience. I liked how near everything there had a counterplay for it's weaknesses. Why couldn't we get that fight for DP instead of "Carried by Garchomp: The Team"?

[@SkullK3y]

Yes the Pokemon games are very easy and have become even easier with the friendship mechanic, but it's very clear that Charlie wouldn't have been able to get through the E4 as he did without chat given the VERY clear lack of Pokemon knowledge.

[@jaxwil7199]

aint that deep. its funny seeing a lot of the butthurt 30 year olds still playing this game, mad over how he played.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

he would have

[@markmagician2471]

Plus Charlie didn't have any good moves on some of his mons

[@ColbyP16]

@@markmagician2471 not having thunderbolt and only spark on luxray is crazy

[@obama5043]

@@jaxwil7199 nobody is butt hurt it’s just there’s literally no way he would’ve won without chat

[@_itzjoshhh7927]

The remake really made this entire journey a lot easier. The friendship mechanic and the addition of fairy typing really changed the outcome of these elite four battles.

[@Icedcoil]

Friendship mechanic is pretty much shit, or the fact that you can't turn it off.

[@softis2000]

@@Icedcoil just disrespect the fuck outta your mons and force feed them herbs lol

[@ninjafrog6966]

@@softis2000 and why should people be forced into doing that when it was optional in previous games?

[@bahhumbug5467]

@@ninjafrog6966 no ones forced to do anything just play the originals

[@grasseater3115]

Loved how Charlie didn't forget Jim Wool, truly an important character in this anime

[@dad5draco]

I like how Charlie took away the satisfaction of knowing the end of the flamethrower vs acrobatics decision.

[@respecthalo2963]

Charlie "Cynthia is overhyped" Also Charlie: uses 20+ heals 🤣

[@ArMentorLazada]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5LYfpRmortgntk

[@MyHipsAreMovingOnTheirOwn]

He only healed on snorlax which was useless anyway since he was just spamming metronome. Not to mention his whole team is underleved for this.

[@returnofskurk1633]

@@MyHipsAreMovingOnTheirOwn Spam healing is still spam healing, also you're meant to be underleveled.

[@Bismarck-S]

@@returnofskurk1633 no you aren't, you can tell by the name "under leveled" that you aren't fit for the fight if you go into it in that stage.

[@respecthalo2963]

@@MyHipsAreMovingOnTheirOwn There was alot of cuts in this clip, he even revived Joe and healed it if you pay attention lol

[@braxinIV]

“Definitely not worth $60. Just play the originals.” *looks at the price of DPPt cartridges.* Yeeeeah, I’ll stick to the switch games.

[@mutantraze3681]

with the magic of roms, its free

[@tojami2894]

yeah, emulation is the best way to play classics without having to spend money.

[@randomuser5663]

Laughs in rom

[@cursedshadow]

@@_Wind is it lite switch or normal? Would like to know if lite switch pirating is just software mod or hardware mod

[@MutoKei]

@@_Wind And I think the patched out the moddability after the first batches of switches. Though that's a distant fart of a memory so could be wrong.

[@TrueMakaveli50]

You can’t get soft locked in the Elite Four, when all your Pokémon feint you just go back to the Pokémon center and can leave from there. If you’re able to kill any of the elite four Pokémon the best place to train is against them. Spending all your money on full restores and revives before is useful so you don’t lose any money when you lose.

[@Gnurklesquimp]

They don't give you money for winning, right? If they do then that's a really convenient farm for pp/potions etc.

[@MrQwerp]

@@Gnurklesquimp if you win you get money, if you lose you pay money

[@Gnurklesquimp]

@@MrQwerp Ohh I see, I would've thought they're not infinitely farmable like that, that should be good if you can reliably take 2+ down and you win more than you lose, otherwise 3+. (If you still need money to begin with)

[@pinkkam]

@@Gnurklesquimp in Ruby and Sapphire, you can farm the Interviewers for money, and make double every battle with the amulet coin. Don't know if they have anything like that in these games though.

[@jaytera]

@@pinkkam east of celestic town on route 210 there's 2 ace trainers that you can keep battling with vs seeker for around 26700 (amulet coin) coins per battle, its stupidly broken. walk for 100 steps to reset them

[@J374338]

Every Veterans: Cynthia gives me PTSD Charles: casually sends out Alex (I believe it is intended to tank) and forgot Ghost isn't affected by Normal; BUT STILL manages to play Cynthia like a fiddle with Metronome, that she had to retreats Spiritomb.... 😂🤣😂🤣

[@JowoeBunchaNumbers]

She retreats Spiritomb automatically

[@surfingcipher1059]

It was almost universe was helping him

[@Hexra_]

"What an easy game" Literally gets an SSR roll 5 times on the metronome

[@ericmilligan6603]

"That wasn't as much damage as I expected, people hyped the shit out of this matchup" - Cynthia's Garchomp is 11 levels higher than his Mamoswine

[@finnian3931]

fact that charlie can actually beat her against the odds with items is just proof of how overrated this game is lmao

[@verdammdeaggsd7736]

Why did ice shard do more damage than ice fang though? Isn't ice shard just 40 BP? I'm just confused because the first ice fang did under half

[@SkullK3y]

@@verdammdeaggsd7736 The video is cut in a way where it's hard to see but 22:12 you can see that the Yache berry was used up. Yache berry lowers the damage of super effective moves once.

[@hoobslice]

I don’t think anything will come close to the original, but the remakes are so much better than I expected. An incredible nostalgia rush.

[@ImSoCold....]

I love all the bot replies

[@trachea7870]

on paper her team in the remakes is better than it was in the OG. All of her mons now have items and is catered to specifically widdle down all of your Garchomp counters. Garchomp is also forced to be her last pokemon, so you can't cheese it by killing it early. The forced exp.share just makes it dick easy to level your team so it kinda loses its difficulty.

[@DATskorge]

yeah nothing like getting softlocked in puzzles bc they added 8 directional movement, or oneshotting the slite 4 10 levels over them bc they added Exp All. dumbasses rewarding bad devs with money

[@Stickyz]

The remakes aren't actually easier than the originals and actually harder in some spots.

[@kakashii9000]

They seem unbelievable easy though compared to the originals

[@sgsgsgbogasa6421]

I recently played through the original Pokemon Diamond and most of my Pokemon had just gotten to level 50 by the time I reached Cynthia, considering that all of her Pokemon are at least lv 60 and her Garchomp is lv 66 it can be a pretty difficult fight.

[@darkjackl999]

Yeah that was the big issue people hopping in on the remakes wont understand The exp share is op af

[@TheSolitaryEye]

Spiritomb: "It's over, Snorlax! I have the type advantage!" Snorlax with Metronome: "You underestimate my power."

[@hantait4667]

charlie has just gotten wiser and wiser the more hes been wearing those glasses

[@darktruth4763]

I definitely underestimated this e-4 along with the champion , the e-4 was slightly annoying but not too difficult but Cynthia was a pain. It took me two attempts but her garchomp surprised me

[@jammo7370]

Yeah charlie talking about how easy cynthia is while playing on switch, going to chat for every move, and using thousands of pokedollars worth in full restores irked me a lot. If he had no warning, that garchomp would have been way more of a threat than it was here.

[@scrublord9344]

This is the nerfed family friendly Platinum Synthia. Diamond version Synthia from 2006 was the beast.

[@Abdega]

Also in diamond your Pokémon didn’t tough it out on one hp due to friendship

[@bigmandequan8921]

but the pokemon they use are competitively viable with hidden abilities, special items and max iv’s on 2 to 5 stats so thats another difficulty level

[@scrublord9344]

@@bigmandequan8921 Yea but also dont forget the limited pool of pokemon you have to chose on diamond and no trading evolutions.

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

the one with the hustle togekiss ?

[@Lolo.mp3]

Cynthia had Togekiss in Platinum tho, this is her DP team

[@MegaMetal96]

Cynthia gave me a ton of trouble, I beat the entire E4 without using healing items but I needed like 10 energy roots (basically a max revive) to beat her. Tried 4 or 5 times without items.

[@Stickyz]

Energy roots are the 120 hp one revival herbs are the max revive

[@RyDawgE]

I beat her after about 15 tries with no items. Ended up using a single hyper potion. Although I did do the whole e4 with no items in battle if that counts for anything

[@MegaMetal96]

@@Stickyz my b

[@sonicboom126]

@@Stickyz Also energy root is extremely bitter and while revival herb is terribly bitter but who the hell cares about that?

[@Stickyz]

@@sonicboom126 lmao

[@robertpresley1503]

Cynthia threw the battle because she knew I had channel points invested in Charlie losing. She's a crafty one.

[@bigbeanburrito7459]

From just looking at this comment section, I had no idea the Pokémon fan base was this toxic. The game is easy. I beat all of them first try as a kid. Get over yourselves.

[@Smaul002]

The toxicity has been building up for many years and ngl it’s warranted. People have been giving feedback for the last 3 generations and Gamefreak doesn’t listen and doesn’t give a fuck. I’m glad I left this series behind after Sun/Moon. You’re right, the games were always easy but whatever minuscule amount of brain power you had to use in the original versions of the game is now reduced to zero. You don’t even need to train your team anymore and now you can avoid fainting. The core mechanics of the series (which were already bare bones) are even more watered down which is laughable. Games went from easy to braindead

[@seanjoy4315]

Charlie: Most overhyped boss ever. Also Charlie: *Uses a team a pseudos'*

[@cgb838]

The new health bar kills the suspense of whether or not you live or die

[@maulanaaa8623]

I just want them to give the player a freedom to choose between hard or easy mode, the difficulty is stupidly easy, especially with that ash ketchum power of friendship thing, even the kid's shape puzzle was harder than almost every main pokemon game

[@silverbolt9439]

We had that in black and white 2 hard mode and easy mode but got removed from the games moving forward.

[@ThetrueHeero]

@@silverbolt9439 the kiddy’s got mad I guess

[@nousername4416]

@@silverbolt9439 gamefreak has a habit of removing good features don't they?

[@HinoChanification]

Honestly the game kinda does have a hard mode. Just turn the "switch" setting to "set" in the options and don't overlevel or use legendaries to cheese the fights. Playing that way feels like the games are pretty balanced in difficulty to be honest.

[@nousername4416]

@@HinoChanification that's not a hard mode programmed into the game that's just you setting restrictions onto yourself. i meant a proper one where the teams are built better, the ai is less stupid, ect generally i prefer hard modes to work by making the actual game harder rather than restricting what you can do

[@deathpunch2169]

Charlie: "Cynthia is soo overhyped, what an easy fight." Also Charlie: - Gets backseat gamed super hard by chat - Spams full resores - Has swapping after an enemy pokemon faints enabled Seriously, the game gets 100 times easier just with that option, since you can just swap to whatever sweeps the new mon.

[@vecremser2226]

Without all of those he still would have beat her considering he only lost Snorlax.

[@audiex0867]

no she’s just pretty easy

[@AlearPaste]

@@vecremser2226 lmao you're funny if you think he could beat her on set mode no healing

[@redviper57]

@@AlearPaste the fact that you have to add certain restrictions to the game just to make it harder says alot lmao. Ita fucking pokemon. Chill the fuck out its not like hes cheating in the Olympics lmao. God i swear pokemon fans are like the biggest crybabies

[@bestsamurai933]

@@redviper57 fact

[@ashish_sunny]

Charlie White casually playing Pokemon whilst moist variants are popping up across the whole globe!

[@michaellambiri9077]

Cynthia is easy when you're using a time god, playing on switch mode and spamming full restores lol

[@p1antman]

True lol and a pseudo-ledendary in Garchomp

[@derpydinosaur2261]

Also when you’re using some of the best Pokémon before post game

[@WorldEaterZero]

I was there as a doubter. Charlie got me with the big brain Alex Jones metronome strats baffled Cynthia AI so much that he wins lmao. Well deserved king

[@mehlow7583]

This game has taught me how important moves like swift and aerial ace are

[@cadeo.1265]

Back in the day I couldn’t even beat her Milotic or Roserade, let alone Garchomp. I grinded my entire team to level 55 and it STILL wasn’t enough. There’s wasn’t a broken experience share back in the original DP either, all you had was the putsy original one so grinding levels up took SO MUCH TIME. Only to find out her Garchomp is level 66 and has moves that cover every single one of its weaknesses AND it’ll outspeed every one of your Pokémon. Good times.

[@nathanfrasula9923]

I sweeped Cynthia and the rest of the elite four with one garchomp on my first run

[@nathanfrasula9923]

She isn’t hard at all

[@SpinningTurtle66]

And now in BDSP I’m level 55 even before the 8th gym leader without ever grinding my lol

[@adhlansentiana]

Exactly, the og was pretty tough back in the day... Cynthia got me good. The bdsp version isn’t as difficult as i remember honestly

[@upisntdownsilly]

@@adhlansentiana originals wasnt tough, just get an empoleon with like surf and blizzard and you can sweep the entire elite 4+cynthia without needing to heal except for using ethers

[@VariousA853]

bro why yall simps replaying the part when lobbony apeired in the flint battle

[@kkyanite]

I noticed that too lol

[@TheDarkLasombra]

If I learned anything from this video, its that Charlie's chat doesn't know anything about Pokemon.

[@SapphireCarbuncle009]

Truth be told, the rematches are the real challenge. Apparently they do the stuff that the PvP scene does with stats maxed out and held items and everything. Like it's actually insane that even the FIRST dude has actual strats going on

[@rogers4760]

About a month or two ago I went on a pixelmon server where the gyms had bp Pokémon with meta moves. Hardest Pokémon battles I’ve ever had. I ended up finding out about the f.e.a.r combo because I my entire team would get wiped out by one pokemon.

[@gusbart5856]

@@rogers4760 haha fear always kills the noobs

[@HalcyonSwift]

That’s it. I’m convinced Charlie can make any moment in any game hype asf

[@jackmarks1358]

Charlie the speed run for this game is wild should look into it for sure!

[@tauntngs]

@Alex: The Movie no

[@kirbotheanimator1994]

Jesus christ these replies

[@jackmarks1358]

@@kirbotheanimator1994 I know tifht

[@DD-hs9pe]

Charlie: “Cynthia was overhyped” *Charlie also spamming healing items for every fight and bringing the Dialga like a weenie*

[@Prince-oc1vs]

The game looks like The FRANCHISE lags 10 years behind.

[@Patterrz]

Alright Nuzlocke time

[@bleed7378]

Sinnoh is the only 2D-Era E4 that actually requires strategy, regardless of which cheese team you bring in. Vaporeon alone cheeses everyone in Kanto A scrafty/reuniclus core vaporizes Unova Just bumrush Hoenn with hyper offense Swords Dance Meganium is hilariously effective in Johto

[@jaytera]

feraligatr is also pretty insane in johto

[@bleed7378]

@@jaytera only in HGSS, prior to the split, Gatr was overly reliant upon Hidden Power and Fighting coverage to really do much; you're not exactly beating up on many Blissey or Clefable in game, are you? Meganium gets Razor Leaf very early on as a force multiplier and it scales well through the E4 in every game in which the sauropod appears/

[@jaytera]

@@bleed7378 I mean in crystal. you can sweep a lot of the game with it

[@catturdz6099]

Not really. Gliscor could easily beat like 3/4 of the elite four with hyper offense; Bertha being the *only* real challenge for Gliscor.

[@Mito383]

"Overhyped Cynthia" Lets just ignore the chat help, full restores, switch mode and friendship hacks.

[@Vijai_Ruva]

Let's also ignore that sarcasm exists

[@highlivin1917]

Starting to think I was the only dude who beat this boss first try as a kid lol.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Nah i did it as well

[@EVnationWrestler]

OG this was hard without a whole chat answering your questions, and helping with your team. Just saying it makes it a cake walk. You have affection, switch on, EXP Share. Definitely not the same.

[@id1550]

Not that big of a deal. The games still easy

[@isabellajemica]

Can you even turn off exp share?

[@MisterRegretti]

@@id1550 It's actually challenging if you don't overlevel and play with set battle style and if you lose on purpose you lose affection so that's what I did

[@id1550]

@@MisterRegretti lol I’m not going to put in a lot of effort just to make the game as hard as possible. I just want to play the game and so that is what I did. So from the perspective of someone who played the game as it was intended to be played, it’s easy

[@MisterRegretti]

@@id1550 Yeah it proves how hard you have to try to make the game challenging but I enjoyed it how I played it

[@nakulgoyal2879]

Ah yes, my favourite match-up Dialga vs Quagsire

[@Speculector]

As someone who also beat Cynthia first try I can confirm she is difficult if you don't happen to have the Pokemon that counter her strategies, which luckily I had, and so did Charlie. btw this is Cynthia on easy mode, when you rechallenge the league everyones teams are amped up, i haven't tried it yet but i've been told Cynthia's Garchomp becomes level 88 which ties with Red's level 88 Pikachu as the highest level NPC's pokemon of any game, which is pretty cool. (not counting the lv 100 trainers in the battle facilities of course)

[@asap6763]

You and charie had team that countered it because the pokemon that do are easy random encountered you would be a ninny to not catch

[@diegomedina9637]

@@asap6763 Or just teach ice beam to any of your water type pokemon. My Diamond starter was Piplup which was a water and steal type when he evolve which resisted everything that Garchomp threw at him. Cynthia was only hard because it was your first Pokemon game and you thought your overleveled Infernape could take on a Garchomp. I've seen it happen alot, i had a younger sister and a bunch of young cousins that had gen 4 as their first pokemon game while i was more experienced because i had gen 1 and 3 under my belt at that point.

[@nicolaimckee2000]

@@diegomedina9637 Except Empoleon is a steel type and is weak to earthquake which Garchomp has. Empoleon is no where close to the speed Garchomp has. You would have to be extremely lucky and survive first hit, be over leveled by a lot, or make Garchomp use up the 10 pp. Garchomp isn’t a pushover. There is a reason he is feared. Another water type might be able to, but it would need to be able to out speed to get off the ice beam.

[@diegomedina9637]

@@nicolaimckee2000 Water and Steal so he'll not be taken down by earthquake so easily

[@thatf2p300]

@@diegomedina9637 I beat Cynthia, but I will say the garchomp one shot my empoleon even though it was 4 levels higher than the garchomp. Don’t underestimate that garchomp

[@Dalpima]

She's more scary in a Nuzlocke where other trainers before her have probably knocked out at LEAST a couple of your good pokemon....and then she shows up with some powerhouses. Still very scary

[@greyscaleadaven]

Tbh the E4 in this game is why she's scary in Nuzlockes. With a frankly lazy E4 lineup like gen 3 or gen 6 she would be much easier for nuzlockers to handle imo. Almost all champions are scary in nuzlockes, Iris, Blue, and N/Ghetsis are all examples of that.

[@xdxangeloxbx]

"So easy" -> uses full restores non stop

[@tmanuel44]

Watching this made me lowkey salty after how many attempts it took me to beat Cynthia compared to watching Charlie send out Snorlax to use a normal type move on Spiritomb and still end up winning 😅

[@Zwizard247]

Fun fact, in actual games of Diamond and Pearl, all and I do mean ALL ai trainer is set to level 0, the Intelligence of a wild pokemon, and yes thats mean ALSO Cynthia is also lv 0, so she was just doing random moves on us, but since she had an overpower team, the randomness was a blessing in disguise

[@TheFlamingGamerYT]

Cynthia is a cool character, one can’t deny that. Also, I feel bad I’ve not played many Pokémon games besides Pokémon yellow. I’ll probably play some more of the Pokémon games in the future

[@azmashe8875]

Same for me, i've only played Yellow and X

[@TheFlamingGamerYT]

@@azmashe8875 I’d love to play Pokémon X, and perhaps the Diamond and Pearl games (perhaps the original games, not the new releases on the switch)

[@loafofbread9400]

What makes her cool, asking respectfully

[@tront5903]

I haven't either and frankly SwSh almost killed my will to

[@Stickyz]

@@TheFlamingGamerYT X and Y are ok but closer to the bottom of the list for Pokémon games. Sun and Moon aren't bad but they have too many cutscenes. These games are actually a really good place to re-enter the series if you're planning to. If you don't have a switch I suggest Platinum instead of Diamond and Pearl. Platinum makes a lot of quality of life changes to make it a better experience. Heart Gold and Soul Silver are my personal favorite Pokémon games if that means anything to you

[@Arcademan09]

A huge portion of my friends bought this on release day. I still refuse to get the mainline ones until they actually try. At least Arcius looks different

[@petulantpeterturbo]

You’re absolutely missing out, if you didn’t get sword and shield you’re missing out on so much, this game is equally worth getting.

[@baller302]

@@petulantpeterturbo not worth the 60 at all, platinum is so much superior and you can easily emulate it

[@petulantpeterturbo]

@@baller302 I think you’ve got nostalgia goggles, almost about this game is great to me.

[@baller302]

@@petulantpeterturbo if i had nostalgia glasses on, i would be praising this game... Yes, this version is much superior than the originals but that is not saying much because the gameplay is the exact same. Why pay double for the same game?

[@PatVX1]

Chat be like "NOOO I WASN'T GOOD AT THE GAME AS A CHILD, YOU CAN'T JUST WIN LIKE THIS"

[@tsi_tsi]

I would actually love to see Charlie play some competitive on showdown.

[@kvltofsobek90]

She's way overhyped. All an unseasoned player needs is to play on shift, item-stall, and deferring to the chat

[@goobleron]

*Breaking news* : Game aimed at children is easy, who knew.

[@kvltofsobek90]

@@goobleron except it wasnt. He was carried by the chat lmao. Even seasoned players who constantly complain about how easy the games are struggle with this fight

[@yenjin583]

His reaction to Golem using full restore 💀

[@r0mazuLa]

ahhh yes , nothing but Charlie playing my favorite game franchise 😊

[@poookienate]

I’m not gonna lie, watching Charlie play Pokémon is way more interesting than KZbinrs who only play pokemon

[@daneherron7014]

“definitely not worth $60 under any circumstance, just okay the originals” price of the originals now: $75-$90 if you are even able to find a copy in stock anywhere.

[@devastator1313]

Of course Cynthia isn't as strong as you expect when you use a ton of full restores and hyper potions.

[@saiyanfang1047]

and chat's help

[@comeatme6ro413]

Pokemon affection mechanics carried me through elite 4 and Cynthia battle. Infernape tanked a hit 2 times in a row on 1hp out of concern for me and also dodged like 20 times.

[@thescubastephen]

You don't need a walk through when you have chat.

[@ewbait]

I mean, a lot of us were kids, plus she is a crazy hard fight especially against underleveled teams, element disadvantages, or nuzlockes.

[@Aanteatur]

Lol my "strategy" was just training enough to one-shot the first 2. But I only played up to Ruby/Sapphire. Continuous over saves by my siblings destroyed any other desire to continue Pokémon.

[@bobwall8021]

I remember blasting through the elite four on my first attempt because I dumped everything into Torterra