OVERRATED? 922 Porsche GT3 Touring FIrst Drive Review

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Mr JWW

Mr JWW

Күн бұрын

This is the new Porsche 992 GT3 Touring and today we are driving both the manual and PDK Touring back to back on road and up the Goodwood Festival of Speed hill climb! Mechanically the new GT3 Touring is the same compared with the 911 GT3, meaning the 503bhp 4-litre naturally aspirated flat-six engine, double-wishbone front suspension and 20- and 21-inch forged wheels all remain. Kerb weight is also identical, at 1418kg for the manual and 1435kg for the PDK, and so too is the suspension setup, lets see how they compare in this first drive review...
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@nickgallucci8117
@nickgallucci8117 3 жыл бұрын
Touring is the One for Me ... She has Prettyyy Lines ... Love the painted Bumpers ... the Machine looks sooo Sharp ... thanks for sharing Porsche & James ... Cheers Gentlemen .
@Ads539
@Ads539 3 жыл бұрын
Painted bumper is absolutely stunning, love the car in silver
@erichakanson7010
@erichakanson7010 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison between the first GT3 Touring and the current model. IMHO, the "normal" GT3, esp the RS model, is often too "race car-ish" for me. The Touring variant envelopes all the great things about the Porsche GT3. And lets face it, even without all the wings and ducts and stuff, its still got plenty of presence.
@oliverharris9567
@oliverharris9567 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@migueldreamsupercars5827
@migueldreamsupercars5827 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@arielsilberman
@arielsilberman 2 жыл бұрын
That's how I see it... If I'd were to buy a Porsche it'd be because I want something outrageous that can ACTUALLY be daily driven, otherwise I'd but a Ferrari. But no Ferrari, or any manufacturer else for that matter, offers the "gt3" experience whilst keeping the daily driving capabilities. That's where porsche shines, a gt3 that I can drive painlessly to work, a small stop at the shop, cup of coffee with the most over developed cup holder, nice ride and when I decide, it turns into a gt3. It doesn't get any better than that as far as a car I'd actually love to live with... And for my wife an XC90 hybrid to move the kids around, she doesn't care lol
@CDW98
@CDW98 Жыл бұрын
Owner of touring here, it’s still full blown GT3 on the road in terms of feel and stiffness but no rear wing. Also has a color matching front splitter to take off some visual “race car”.
@okeyezeilo6187
@okeyezeilo6187 3 жыл бұрын
This clip underscores the difference between James and the profusion of KZbinrs who review cars. He understands the subtle differences that define handling. So when he's discussing the characteristics of the new GT3 it isn't the pretentious posturing of most, it is the reliable opinion of a man who knows what he's on about. His comment on the front-end grip of the GT3 resonated with me. Enjoyed this all-too-short clip tremendously. Well done, James...
@ifonly4486
@ifonly4486 3 жыл бұрын
PDK for me. Getting old and drive in the mountains on twisty roads. Tired of changing gears all the time. And PDK allows me to concentrate even more on braking and turning when going for it !!
@gummiesrule88
@gummiesrule88 3 жыл бұрын
Early reviews are that there is enough torque that constant gear changing is entirely unnecessary. That said, personally I like lots of gear changing in a good manual. Great fun....
@ifonly4486
@ifonly4486 3 жыл бұрын
@@gummiesrule88 True. I've been driving manual for 31 years to the point that i don't enjoy it anymore because it has become a reflex instead of a conscious gesture. PDK makes me feel like a hero... Maybe people who learned driving with an auto think manual are cool but for me manual has always been the norm and i've had enough of it !
@gummiesrule88
@gummiesrule88 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifonly4486 Funny, I've been driving a manual for 46 years, when I first learned to drive with a "three on the tree" manual, and I'd still pick a good manual over a double clutch tranny every day. And I have, in fact, made that choice repeatedly in the years since. As far as being a hero, a perfectly executed heel and toe shift at speed on a track is as close to heroic as I can get. The PDKs are amazingly good boxes for efficient, quick shifts. And very cool, at least at first. But over time, they take some of the fun out of the dance between man and machine....
@ifonly4486
@ifonly4486 3 жыл бұрын
@@gummiesrule88 True and that's why i respect people who prefer a manual over a pdk. Thanks to Porsche for listening and offering both boxes though ......
@alsatch_
@alsatch_ 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the GT3 for me. Stunning 😍
@jeebus2121
@jeebus2121 3 жыл бұрын
The Touring is great and all but the Singer/Williams DLS in front is, as the kids say, life goals.
@napalmhotdog4365
@napalmhotdog4365 2 жыл бұрын
2 million vs 127K….
@carseyeadmire
@carseyeadmire 3 жыл бұрын
That looks more like motoring heaven than Goodwood.
@armandasrani6379
@armandasrani6379 3 жыл бұрын
The manual touring is the pick for me. The hood is a little weird with the vents, but overall I love it.
@chamade166
@chamade166 3 жыл бұрын
You can get 2 Corvettes
@xlMontagelx
@xlMontagelx 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the front bumper for me. Reminds me of a fish
@CLSTRN911
@CLSTRN911 3 жыл бұрын
chamade166 but you can have 1 GT3 Touring !
@jeebus2121
@jeebus2121 3 жыл бұрын
@@chamade166 Why would I want two cars that are the same that look like they were styled by someone who only had access to a ruler? And there's no manual option.
@X_DD
@X_DD 3 жыл бұрын
@@chamade166 Vette is trash can with wheels compared to Porsche.
@therocksince99
@therocksince99 3 жыл бұрын
2:52 "we have a shmee150 in the wild, watching the aston martin valkyrie "
@kahdmus
@kahdmus 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that's ruined an otherwise great video...
@ChasingGiants23
@ChasingGiants23 3 жыл бұрын
Body coloured front Bumper is OFF THE CHAIN MEGA. A completely new look and I love it
@conner.9262
@conner.9262 3 жыл бұрын
An added bonus to the design of this car would be ….. seeing as there is so much more luggage space in the rear perhaps Porsche should think of having the rear window opening like McLaren 57GT making it far more easier to drown in bags etc …… just a thought …… front end design is spot on ?
@griffmtb
@griffmtb 3 жыл бұрын
That Singer DLS tho, holy cow, that is gorgeous!
@marknorton5951
@marknorton5951 3 жыл бұрын
The issue of course is that you can’t actually buy one. Porsche needlessly limits production and dealers allocate them to favourite customers who may well then flip them for a profit. My dealer told me one customer had bought £1m of other cars to get one. There’s currently one for sale at £275k, £100k more than a heavily spec’d one costs at list. I have a 991.1 PDK and a 991.2 manual. I tried to get a 992 and failed so I am buying an 812 GTS instead. At list.
@pasquale78
@pasquale78 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'd get a darkblue with chromed windows surrounds and silver wheels. In my opinion it suits the understatement of the Touring Package a bit better. But to each his own.
@mAthXjAzz
@mAthXjAzz 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! Manual with adaptiv seats and yellow stitching / break calipers for me. Plus the Carbon Roof of course.
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly the point! You can have GT3 daily driving experience not having to look like a douche on the road with that massive wing! The GT3 Touring is the road car and the GT3 is the track car! PDK and Manual available on both is optimal too! The fact that it's a perfect copy of the GT3 is a pro not a con imo. Or people would just buy the GT3 and remove the wing. Most people are not comfortable with modding cars btw. Another reason for the Touring to exist. Also an excuse for those who can to buy both! The track car with all the light weight stuff like bucket seats focused on performance and safety with the cage in a crazy color. And a road car more focused on drive enjoyment and comfort in a more subtle color and bigger fuel tank. I think it's perfect! I will certainly have both!
@milootje007
@milootje007 3 жыл бұрын
The wheels on the 991 to me had the best looking rims ever. I miss them on this gen.
@saraw6446
@saraw6446 3 жыл бұрын
Was that Shmee next to the Valkyrie at 2'50" ? Touring looks nicer, getting older means I'd feel self conscious with the wing & don't need it anyway. Looks beautiful in blue & bumper looks fine...That Singer though!! 🔥
@roscoe211994
@roscoe211994 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of your GT3. It would be interesting to see a cost breakdown of maintenance to get to 100K miles.
@justdriveit7434
@justdriveit7434 3 жыл бұрын
Great video James!!I would pick the pdk due to the “touring” character of the car!!
@philspaghet
@philspaghet 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, you want the manual for the touring because it's more about driver involvement. Get a PDK Turbo for cruising
@mitchellguillot8505
@mitchellguillot8505 3 жыл бұрын
I think having the lower cladding painted looks amazing!!! It gives the GT3 bumper more definition in my opinion!!!
@Mike-1000
@Mike-1000 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing how Porsche do it.... better and better.
@UncleTonyshotsauce
@UncleTonyshotsauce 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard about a Tesla plaid, really 🤔
@JustinBenn
@JustinBenn 2 жыл бұрын
@@UncleTonyshotsauce or just don't care?
@danfer7831
@danfer7831 3 жыл бұрын
That Blue GT3 seems to be the perfect car for going to the opera in Vienna, no doubt it will blend very nicely!!
@anthonylessthanzero1498
@anthonylessthanzero1498 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see your Video's Mr. JWW! My question to you is....... If both models, the GT3 Touring and the Turbo S were priced the same. Which one would you pick and why?
@tgvettes
@tgvettes 3 жыл бұрын
the darker cars look fine wirth the body color but the silver one I agree with you would look better with a black insert
@carfan3762
@carfan3762 Жыл бұрын
The good thing is that one has the choice between a painted - or not - front bumper ! I personally prefer it painted, but then I’m no fan of silver metallic (whatever the car). Great video, as always !
@myou6675
@myou6675 3 жыл бұрын
Personal preference but I’d feel a bit conspicuous with a huge rear wing on the back of my road car. To the extent that the Touring would be the only GT3 for me.
@carfan3762
@carfan3762 4 ай бұрын
Considering many - if not most - GT3 Touring lucky owners won’t be going on track with their car, I think a good ol’ manual box (especially with 6 gears) is quite appropriate for the ultimate driving pleasure on open roads, twisties and mountain passes. Keep the PDK for Nürburgring lap times 😅
@samjep2
@samjep2 3 жыл бұрын
Love the front boot oddly with those dips!
@Chrissy-H
@Chrissy-H 3 жыл бұрын
They missed a trick softening the dampers/springs off, could really have been a nice differentiator. Should really come with more all-weather biased tyres too. Reviews of the new GT3 suggest it's too busy on the road, though JWW seems to say it isn't?
@MrJWW
@MrJWW 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think so but importantly considering the new suspension and rose joints it’s particularly well calibrated.
@jim99west46
@jim99west46 3 жыл бұрын
JWW you missed the Porsche History class. The original 911 Touring model was the 911 ST. Touring mean for that car....fast and very sporty, not like a GT type car or emotion at all.
@hockeymann88
@hockeymann88 3 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful spec. The blue with the bright trim around the windows. Looks like a brand new classic car.
@HotTakeHQ
@HotTakeHQ 3 жыл бұрын
I ALMOST fell for that! I was like damn that was one REALYA FAST shift! I knew 🔥🔥🔥🔥🤩🏎
@allensaunders449
@allensaunders449 3 жыл бұрын
Carfection did a short video at goodwood with the singer if you are interested
@HiddenWen
@HiddenWen 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to be able to experience a gt3 touring someday. These things are too rare.
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam 3 жыл бұрын
You pointed out something I noticed as well. I have a guards red 997. I saw pics of the 992 Gt3 touring in GR and loved the painted front end. As soon as your video went to the front of the silver I thought “umm, that doesn’t look so great”. Some colors it’s seems to work better.
@HoratioHoodoo
@HoratioHoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the 991 is the better daily being softer and less darty.
@hby7768
@hby7768 3 жыл бұрын
drive both so you can tell us how you really feel
@tjianandjie6182
@tjianandjie6182 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your logic on Touring GT3
@richardwatts9093
@richardwatts9093 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely love my manual 991.2 gt3 and cannot see me going down the 992 route
@Rushwind100
@Rushwind100 3 жыл бұрын
Agree w/ all you say, BUT, as a Biz Exec who no longer commutes, I see no reason to have the PDK for, as you say, a more compliant DD proposition. Manual still rules for all GT3 spirited road driving (Touring or otherwise).
@jeffreyesbjerg1377
@jeffreyesbjerg1377 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance you can tell me the brand of your sunglasses - they’re awesome. And great video!!
@dennisoverdiep2737
@dennisoverdiep2737 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see your new GT3! 👀
@VerangaF430
@VerangaF430 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man that DLS!
@asyraafme8102
@asyraafme8102 3 жыл бұрын
That GT3 Touring🤤🤩
@dimwillow7113
@dimwillow7113 3 жыл бұрын
colored bumper looks amazing.. i would also go with exterior color on side mirrors..
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 3 жыл бұрын
A modern gem
@camilomott8978
@camilomott8978 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@jamesyu685
@jamesyu685 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they got rid of the bonnet holes for the touring. Really would have cleaned up the aesthetic
@davecohn5546
@davecohn5546 3 жыл бұрын
Your analysis of the PDK in the Touring is very pragmatic and mature. Refreshing.
@rodjames2
@rodjames2 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the symmetry of the touring front end. The black touring's grill disappears with no details to enjoy.
@Agentxphile
@Agentxphile 3 жыл бұрын
That singer porsche though....lovely!
@nickhaslam3253
@nickhaslam3253 3 жыл бұрын
Love the painted bumper as well. More sophisticated.
@mergie96
@mergie96 3 жыл бұрын
in silver I agree it looks funny, but in black it looks incredible!
@fabiostefana8048
@fabiostefana8048 3 жыл бұрын
2:54 Shmee has been spotted
@SChapps
@SChapps 3 жыл бұрын
Love it, and I’m sure it’s improved in a lot of ways. Let’s be honest though the 991 is a prettier car
@patrikojala1895
@patrikojala1895 3 жыл бұрын
OH WOW, that's Just Honestly Absolutely Amazing Buddy, I Just Honestly Absolutely Love your Content Buddy, and I've Just Honestly Been Watching your Absolutely Amazing and Entertaining Content for Years now Buddy..! 👊🏻😃👍🏻
@ZMrBen
@ZMrBen 3 жыл бұрын
I will turn back my GT3 Touring to black "lower bumper" ( ^ ^ b, Thks for making good video & sharing.
@mountain33x
@mountain33x 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like an MGF from the front 😎
@trevorparmer5231
@trevorparmer5231 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure I am in the minority, but I like the winged model and prefer the black bumper insert. And I’d need to see it in person, but also not sure about the texture interior trim. So, I’ll have the agate GT3 manual with buckets, yellow stitching and chrono face to match the new gauges and “GT3” logo. Perhaps that is because that is what I’ve ordered…
@steveforde7475
@steveforde7475 3 жыл бұрын
That front bumper shouts Halfords Corsa, if it had a boot it wold contain a sub woofer.
@nathandrake6531
@nathandrake6531 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this James , thanks for being honest about it as well
@midnight5659
@midnight5659 2 жыл бұрын
UNa prova diversa dal solito senza le menate tecniche che tutti conoscono ma un commento su estetica e le effettive differenze. Ma da un punto di vista della guida al Ring la GT3 touring avrebbe ottenuto lo stesso tempo della GT3 con l'ala?
@williampatten9165
@williampatten9165 3 жыл бұрын
James, would it be possible for you to review a 718 GT4 RS? It would interest me to know your impressions between the Cayman and a 911 GR3 RS.
@rezaessop6483
@rezaessop6483 3 жыл бұрын
Love the silver front bumper 😍
@Sean_Farmer
@Sean_Farmer 3 жыл бұрын
I like the body colored front bumper option, especially on the touring. Even in silver I think it suits the "touring" character better than the blacked out section. Porsche is killing it!
@wisruteb
@wisruteb 3 жыл бұрын
The front bumper is, for me, a deal breaker. Gone is the more retrained look of the 991.2 GT3 Touring for the sake of cooling. And while it does look better in darker colors, the silver car just looks a bit odd from the front while the winged version just looks like there’s a big hole in the front bumper.
@trevormacdougall9385
@trevormacdougall9385 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing GT3. Also, how about that cool old school GTS Cayenne!
@mdub048
@mdub048 3 жыл бұрын
much prefer the black window trim on the silver car. And the PDK, too. : D
@Kalamana
@Kalamana 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a Manual, i miss driving a 6 speed
@ArKritz84
@ArKritz84 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprising they didn't shove in the 7-speed for commonality of production/parts, but I guess the old 6-speed is just stronger.
@Kalamana
@Kalamana 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArKritz84 i was thinking that too some of the 7 speeds are nice but i noticed they have a long throw my old porsche had a short shift racing gearbox and man was that fun to drive. And you may not be able to beat someone in a straight line against a PDK but i can out drive a paddle shifted car in the corners as I don’t have to slow down as much, unless the car has gravity effects with lots of downforce like a formula one car where you have to drive at least 120 mph into the corners or you wont stay on the road the faster you go the more downforce in those cars where paddle shifting makes more sense since in a formula one a whole team remotely monitors and drives that car is a different experience. In a GT car or hyper car I still rather have a manual just a world better in driving feedback and fun. I miss my old Porsches maybe not as fast as some of the new ones but so much more fun to drive. I been thinking of getting a modified GT3 RS or GT2 RS and have 9FF modify it so it be a very fast Manual as the ones I have seen with a manual are sick, with 1200- 1800 hp is insane and a manual to boot. These cars just pass almost everything lol but with that kind of horsepower i would really want an all wheel drive like the turbo s to put more of that power to the road, but i would have to convert it to a manual, i just can’t get myself to buy another paddle shifted sports car is not the same.
@ArKritz84
@ArKritz84 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalamana oh, I meant the 7 speed manual from the regular 911s. By popular demand they did a manual in the last GT3 too, it's just weird they didn't do it in the last GT3 touring.
@ynot7262
@ynot7262 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Porsche... They've done it again... I think the coloured front bumper works with the silver car... Not so sure about other colours... I have one for sure..oh in fact I'd have 2...one manual one PDK.
@dans4316
@dans4316 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm yeah I’d go with the painted bumper. It my opinion it looks more race car 🏎
@bernardrubble8703
@bernardrubble8703 3 жыл бұрын
Original impression was that I didn’t like the black or unpainted front splitter. The painted one in the video confirmed my intuition.
@stuartrichardson6309
@stuartrichardson6309 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning porsche I'm with you prefer the look of darker colour don't like painted body colour on light car
@lukasmagnusson9295
@lukasmagnusson9295 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe 4 seats would make up a great spec for the touring version, would make it more approachable for even more people
@scotttipper7341
@scotttipper7341 3 жыл бұрын
I actually wish that they would offer a rear seat delete option on a regular Carrera
@tvdk1963
@tvdk1963 3 жыл бұрын
Need to get used to the front spliiter regardless the color. Love to see a more comprehensive test of the manual. Thanks for the first impression.
@senshibat8920
@senshibat8920 3 жыл бұрын
Red Ian red Callum..yes plz, Vanquish the throw back rivals. until Porsche inventories get better. So the gears be long and reliable placements some of the muscle memory would have us in the ford bronco crawl gear and not 2nd
@ruggedmanbeast6553
@ruggedmanbeast6553 3 жыл бұрын
I think that’s why it was a “Hero car” because it was only available in manual! So all the manual transmission enthusiasts, such as myself, loved that fact. Cause we all know that once it’s available in auto that it’s just the downfall of the manual. Prime example being the corvette. Just my thoughts on the matter.
@jacksonpaul1648
@jacksonpaul1648 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind the cars, the Mr. @Shmee150 was 😍
@jeffreyanderson3501
@jeffreyanderson3501 3 жыл бұрын
@mr JWW, what jacket is this? Looks fantastic mate!
@phantom2k10
@phantom2k10 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for ipe and sharkwerks to get their hands on the this platform
@ToreHansen
@ToreHansen 3 жыл бұрын
The painted front fits the touring.
@govertvanamerongen5902
@govertvanamerongen5902 3 жыл бұрын
Sound is spot on as it should be. The front is a little getting used to. Like a dentist who repaired your front teeth and you definetely look like rodger rabbit after...
@aviano72
@aviano72 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what about that 911 DLS by Singer ?? Absolutely gorgeous!
@hpman911
@hpman911 3 жыл бұрын
So it should be for a million quid !!!
@denniswhite9721
@denniswhite9721 3 жыл бұрын
Those horrible UK/Euro front license plates are killing me! What's the fine if they disappear? $25 in California as a parking ticket and worth every penny!
@SMMBHQ-cg2zy
@SMMBHQ-cg2zy 2 жыл бұрын
JW its called marketing , you of all people should understand that , its my pick and i cant even buy a 20 year old porsche . their marketing works so well even guys like me want one worse than a regular gt3
@bluepeter3470
@bluepeter3470 3 жыл бұрын
All those super cars. Me personally give me a old Land Rover.
@pedrotanure7794
@pedrotanure7794 3 жыл бұрын
wow, no VIEWS. excited to see it.
@sopheaphuongratanak1072
@sopheaphuongratanak1072 3 жыл бұрын
You know a gt3 and touring is basically a gt3 but they remove the wing but buying a gt3 is better cause u can stil, remove the wing
@lesflynn4455
@lesflynn4455 3 жыл бұрын
The prettiest car in the Porsche catalogue.
@BillWoodillustrator
@BillWoodillustrator 3 жыл бұрын
Another lovely summer wet English afternoon....
@MTerkait
@MTerkait 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like the dolomite silver?
@weets69
@weets69 3 жыл бұрын
Damn the $$$ in cars at this event is staggering
@pete6705
@pete6705 3 жыл бұрын
If I was a hundred millionaire I think I’d need like 6 Porsches. There’s too many models I have to have
@peetje28021970
@peetje28021970 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car, I prefer it without the wing.
@toddkvamme
@toddkvamme Жыл бұрын
Great car...pretty hard to get one though!
@got_gt3612
@got_gt3612 3 жыл бұрын
Great video , thank you !!!!
@zakk6513
@zakk6513 3 жыл бұрын
I was wandering if the rear spoiler on the gt3 touring is the same one as the carrera s/4s one. If yes I thinks tath might be really the crucial point become that think is much more good-looking than the gt3 one
@6peste9
@6peste9 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Shmee150 near the Valkirie?
@Pjmperez01
@Pjmperez01 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Parabloop3r
@Parabloop3r 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? No one's gonna mention the typo in the title?
@GamesBond.007
@GamesBond.007 3 жыл бұрын
All Giulias have double wishbone suspension in the front, and I didnt even know mine had one. Porsche has a way with marketing, they brag about this race derived front suspension that you can get in a family saloon. Which has a better suspension setup than all Porsches except this one. I'm so glad I didnt buy a Porsche.
@Moftoo
@Moftoo 3 жыл бұрын
Shmee spotted @2:50
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