Overthinking Eurovision 2022: Spain, "SloMo", Chanel

[@ozzyfromscotland]

"Something even more universal than love, peace or hating the UK." My dad, British: what's more universal than that? Me, also British: not a clue

[@monmothma3358]

Hey, we don't hate you! You upped the song quality this year, and look what happened!

[@hereforit2]

Imagine all the memes comparing France and Spain if Spain decided to go with the folklore singers... They're even dressed the same!

[@alejandrator1]

They have the same cultural background. Brithonic roots on Galicia, Britanny, Cornwall and even Wales.

[@beatriceposada7504]

The songs and performances are very different. There are no more similarities between Fullen & Terra, than between Terra and Stefania. They are songs which fusion contenporary music styles and tradition. That's all. I agree that there were similarities in the costumes they chose.

[@aekelly]

I love Eurovision memes! LOL!

[@okayyyy335]

I feel like I have finally found a channel that speaks to me: overthinking pop culture. SUBSCRIBED!

[@Sim0n98]

Also worth checking out their podcast if your a fan of overthinking pop culture!

[@jiggingmaster5319]

I think Channel was n°3 in the audition for main actress(Anita) for Steve Spielberg movie West Side Story, in the end she did not make it..but it tells a lot of her quality

[@aljan89]

Yes! Is truth

[@Texaslawhorn]

Wow! I didn't know that.

[@Winterbay]

Personally I was rooting for Terra as well (but then I'm a huge fan of folk/world music so that's perhaps not surprising). I'm not a fan of SloMo (it is ranked pretty low in my list of this year's songs) but this definitely gave me an appreciation for the hard working singer/actor/photo model that is the artist at least :)

[@Winterbay]

@Domingo Aguirre SloMo can have as much work as it wants done in the background. It doesn't change the fact that it's a rather standard hyper-produced pop-song of the type I find extremely boring, it actually accentuates that even more :) Thee same dislike of hyper-produced pop-songs is why I hope against all hope that my country of Sweden do poorly so we at least once take the chance on something that isn't that. There's so much more to music than hyper-produced pop but because people feel it has so much mainstream acceptance that you can't win without it that's all we ever send :(

[@Rafaelinux]

@@Winterbay sweden's song is the most heartfelt, though. Wouldn't mind it winning.

[@Winterbay]

@@Rafaelinux To me it's not even the best song about a breakup this year, both Belgium and Portugal are way better on that topic.

[@joniskahavet]

@@Winterbay the lyrics in Portugal's song have Maro's granddad's death as its source, but of course the death of a beloved one is a kind of breakup too...

[@aekelly]

@@Winterbay is Portugal about a breakup? I thought it was about her grandfather dying or something like that.

[@gualdus]

Buenísimo…sin duda el mejor análisis exterior sobre Slo-mo y la trayectoria de su intérprete.

[@aekelly]

I can't tell just by translating this if you're being sarcastic or serious. LOL! I'm only going on a translation of the lyrics I found on an ESC reaction website. That and "booty hypnotic". And I know Chanel has done a lot - she's obviously an awesome dancer, and I gather she's done a lot of acting too. My impression is she's had a very successful career. I'm not aware of her doing any other music besides this. Its too bad, she's charismatic and seems like a genuinely sweet person. But this song....sorry, just ick.

[@montsers01]

@@aekelly hello Amy, good morning I don't think the lyrics are so and so important (unless the intention of these lyrics is to send a message) Summarizing its lyrics, it is telling you to move your ass and start dancing, that is definitely the translation. Would it be anything? TRUE. That does not send any transcendental message? another truth What was intended with this song? having a good time, that's the reality, after two years, locked up, with so many people who have died, in fear every day. Something like this was missing, a show that would make us dance Point and aside to tell you (unless you have mistranslated that you understand that she only works on songs like this) that Chanel has mainly worked on musicals of the stature of "El guadaespaldas" or "El rey Leon" and in her interviews she has vindicated those thousands of artists, who many times are not even named, with the tremendous ability to sing and dance at the same time, something magical and very difficult for me. What was intended with this candidacy of Spain? "Get up, get off your ass and dance and have a good time, we've been through enough darkness already" and I think they succeeded. A hug.

[@aekelly]

@@montsers01 hi there! Nice to meet another ESC fan. I'm happy to agree to disagree. 😊

[@montsers01]

@@aekelly If there is respect,,everything is valid 🙂even your opinion !! 😎😄😄 Un saludo grande😘

[@aekelly]

@@montsers01 😂😅😅

[@lydiagutierrez8434]

Cuando dejaron solo el voto del público, fue el Chikiliquatre 😂. Esa es una de las razones por la que combinan las votaciones. El talento de Chanel es indiscutible. Bailar así y cantar a la vez está al alcance de unos pocos y Eleni no está a ese nivel en absoluto.

[@noev76]

Era imposible que saliese otro Chiquilicuatre, ya que RTVE hizo una selección previa. A menos que ellos lo pusieran allí, nadie podría ganar con una parodia como esa. La excusa intenta ser buena, pero no lo consigue

[@eduman2156]

@@noev76 A ver si esta te vale. ¿por qué los votos se reparten así? Muy fácil. Si el popular valiese un 50%, el demoscópico un 25% y el del jurado profesional un 25%, sólo haría falta que fuese alguien muy conocido y con muchos seguidores para tener ganado el certamen. Imagínate Ana Mena/Alvaro Soler/ Lola Indigo. El voto ya lo tendrían ganado incluso antes de presentar ninguna canción. Por tanto, este sistema actual favorece que se presente gente desconocida en el mundo de la música con buenas canciones y que cuente con las mismas garantías de ganar que cualquier otro candidato más o menos famoso; ya que el jurado profesional no va a valorar sólo quien haya detrás del micro o sus raíces, sino también la canción, la puesta en escena y otros elementos en los que los seguidores no nos fijamos. Ya me dirás que te parece esta "excusa" Noelia.

[@noev76]

@@eduman2156 que te parece así? 33%/33%/33% Por cierto, el jurado votó mediante puntos (estilo Eurovisión) mientras que al demoscopico y el del público se le asignaron cantidades fijas en función del puesto (el que más votos recibió x, el segundo y... Etc), en lugar de repartirlos en función de los votos conseguidos. Lo que está claro es que el sistema de votación estaba perfectamente calculado para que ellos tuviesen la sartén por el mango. No se trata de fama, no se trata de no enviar a un nuevo Chikilicuatre, se trata de tener el control de quién va y tener la última palabra. El voto del público era un "quedabien" para tener a la gente contenta y a callar. Pero lo hicieron tan rematadamente mal que se les vio el plumero

[@eduman2156]

@@noev76 A mi me parecería correcto, pero al final siempre alguien saldría descontento. Es que mires por donde lo mires siempre habrá gente descontenta. Creo que el resultado del público tampoco demuestra fielmente lo que la mayoría de España quería. Muchos Eurofans no votamos por la tarifa que costaba cada mensaje o llamada. Además, se supone que el jurado profesional no tenía ningun representante de RTVE, por lo que no entiendo lo de la sartén cogida por el mango. ¿quién? ¿o crees que dentro de rtve presionaron para que el jurado eligiese según sus indicaciones? Pues claro. Por poder... pueden formularse teorías conspiratorias de todo tipo. Mira. Te voy a dar la razón. Hay cosas que, aunque desde el principio del certamen estaban escritas y fijadas en las bases, dan pie a poder mal pensar. Pero... por una vez que nos ofrece RTVE una preselección en condiciones... ¿Vamos y montamos el drama del siglo? Eso es lo que me da auténtica vergüenza, que hasta en el extranjero se enteren de nuestras movidas sin sentido. Mi pregunta es... ¿Cuándo se dejarán de lado los rencores de esa preselección y se empezará a aceptar a Chanel por lo buena artista que es y por el temazo que lleva a Turín? Te puede gustar más o menos, pero no se puede negar que el pack que ofrece Chanel valga la ilusión.

[@andreeas.2362]

I liked that. Still do. I am not spanish

[@ESCTom]

omg the detail. the fact you found her stretching in an exercise magazine 😂😂😂😂

[@LogalKako]

Crazy watching the video now knowing Chanel got the top3 in this year’s Eurovision!! Chanel killed it and proved everybody wrong

[@samantha7549]

The Benidorm Fest wasn't there to chose the best artist, it was there to chose whoever you want to be represented by before Europe

[@teacheronthego291]

Yeah. Like in BenidormFest, she was also third. She didn’t win.

[@angli3865]

@@samantha7549 no, benidorm fest is a way to get a better possible act to win, pero en vez de eso vosotros votais con el corazón y después no llegamos ni al top 10 como con Blanca.

[@tadesubaru1383]

Hi! Spaniard here. What I find most interesting is that not only she pronounces everything in a latino accent (she drops all the s at the end of words and all the th sounds in castillian she says it as s), she also uses latino vocab instead of spanish vocab (jugo instead of zumo) and that fits the latino rythm she's dancing to. I do find very funny though that when she finishes singing, she immediately switches to a castillian accent, which is very noticeable and shocking

[@the11382]

Would a Spaniard consider this offputting? Would they consider Latin vocabulary to be "incorrect"?

[@rachiml]

Not incorrect, it is perfectly fine, but it doesn’t sound “natural” to us.

[@19TXC23]

Omg! We just found out she has another talent 😨😨😨! Chanel never disappointed 🤭

[@angli3865]

Como rosalia, la cantante más famosa de españa

[@Creptlopst]

Latino here! Did not know that jugo is zumo in Spain it sounds super strange to me

[@thevirtualtraveler]

I told my son that this struck me as a Gloria Estephan song as performed by Beyonce. Learning the artist is from Cuba kinda makes sense.

[@ramjb]

Born in Cuba, yet raised at Spain since she was 3. She'd be the first one to tell you that she's as much spanish as cuban, if not more (mostly because she has stated as much many times over by now ;)).

[@phillobates]

You have missed lots of important points in your video (and you have pointed two different girls that were not Chanel): - 70% televote for tanxugueiras was orchestrated by regional campaign by free televote by Galician corporations and factories. - mass media were promoting Tanxugueiras and Rigoberta for months (since October actually) in primetime TV programs using the two songs in their most viewed programs. - the political establishment backing openly the feminist "ay mama" by Rigoberta (major parties in the government backing it) and Terra by tanxugueiras (Labour minister openly backing it) before the contest. - Chanel won the demoscopic vote against Terra in the semifinal so Chanel was 1st on juries, 1st on demoscopic, 2nd on televote. - 2 days went by between semifinal and grand final, TV echoing the anger (for no reason as rules were clear) on all TV channels. Then demoscopic vote felt the pressure and change their vote to 1st Terra, 2nd Chanel. (Remember, 2 days before demoscopic made Chanel their winner). - had Rigoberta won the televote our representative would have been her instead of Chanel (this proves everything was sticked to the rules). - Spaniards, mostly, have been trying to bring down their entry for months now. - Kyle Hanagami, the choreographer, reached out to Chanel and not the other way round. Some are pointing out he may be doing it in an altruistic way. -Some people are mad cos they think Tanxugueiras should have been ranked higher by juries therefore they describe this as "cheating". No, sorry, I would have place them even lower! Their performance was weak and not ESC ready. - galician language only represents a small part of Spain with 2.2M - Spain will never back a song sung in Catalan despite is a language spoken by 7M in the country. Hypocrisy. - Tanxu fandom is ok with Rigoberta winning and the other way round but both fandom are against Chanel victory = they are not supporting their entry fully but going against Chanel in every single way.

[@mateofunezmartin2710]

Literal

[@eduman2156]

Literal. Muy bien explicado. El panorama en unas pocas líneas.

[@beatriceposada7504]

That is defamation. Which factories and corporations have orchestrated a campaign? You should check the facts before making those serious allegations. You may like or not the runner ups, but there is no need for you to make up fake allegations to defend your opinion,

[@phillobates]

@@beatriceposada7504 so you agree with the rest of the 500+ words I wrote down then 😂 Gosh, you fanatic supporters are simply ridiculous crying all over the internet! Galician corps to their employees, girl. Get informed... and a life!

[@daviidfdez2940]

@@beatriceposada7504 They aren't fake allegations it's the truth that been happening in my country. Many people are mad that Terra & Ay mama didn't win because they wanted those songs to represent the country because of idelogies they weren't judging the performance Chanel was the only one with the whole package & she was the only one of the 3 of them playing fair. It would have been way easier for her to do a campaign like the others about social representation asking people to vote her as she was to be only the second latin american woman to represent the country in more than 60 years of history of the festival. Yet she decided to let the performance speak instead of bringing up politics.

[@qilorar]

Chanel was so profesional on the stage! now it makes sence , she is full of accomplishments! Bravo

[@ruboarg]

Excellent channel! We get to learn so much about Eurovision by watching it. Keep up the good job guys!

[@carmenrodal6842]

As an speaker of a minoritary language in Spain, "Terra" was touching our heart hard, however SloMo will do well in Eurovision, tanxugueiras is famous now in whole Spain and Rigoberta Bandini is now a feminist icon. I only see women succeding. Benidorm fest was a total success and next year we will have it back for sure

[@Juansgh]

6:10 It wasnt a battle between Slo Mo and Terra. Ay Mama was everyone's favorite to win and it was a Terra vs Ay Mama situation. Everyone knew Terra would win the televote since they were announced. No one knew Chanel before this song was released (yeah, she's done A LOT but no one knew her) but once she got onstage it blew everyone away. Judges didn't like Terra that much and they came 3rd at the end. Juries: 1st Chanel 2nd Rigoberta 5th Tanxugueiras Demoscopic 1st Tanxugueiras 2nd Chanel 3rd Rigoberta Televote 1st Tanxugueiras 2nd Rigoberta 3rd Chanel If Rigoberta had won the televote or placed 2nd on demoscopic she would've represented Spain.

[@overthinkingit]

This is solid info - see correction video.

[@risapa]

In the recap of her latest work you included one clip where she was nowhere to be found (the one with the women in the sauna) and at 2:04 you highlighted the wrong person, Chanel is actually the one in the bottom. Also what's enchiladas got to do with anything? The tapas-paella-running bulls clichés are getting boooooringggggggg.

[@overthinkingit]

We know, very sorry about the misidentification. An apology video has been posted. Not apologizing for Spanish food dad jokes though.

[@efraimgarcia7876]

What truly worries me about the entire Benidorm Fest televote debacle is that TVE might think twice about bringing in more entries in co-official languages other than Spanish for other editions. But mostly they've done a decent damage control job compared to the absolute wreck that was the aftermath of Objetivo Eurovisión.

[@teacheronthego291]

It blows my mind away how Spaniards flex they could speak other European languages but god forbid you ask them to sing in other co-official languages. Spain pretty much spit on the face of bilingual Spaniards.

[@monmothma3358]

Wow, what a dramatic backstory, I had no idea! 25% public vote is not enough, and yet it seemed like the jury had a pretty good idea of what would work in Eurovision this year. Congratulations to Chanel (who clearly has superpowers).

[@ivanpuntoeme]

I LOOOVEEE IT!! 😄💖 Thanks for this video. Amazing recap of the journey. Let me tell you that if you keep doing this videos you'll have a lot of work with Spain 'cos it seems we love drama. No more discussions anyway, Chanel is the winner and we deserve recognition in Europe for what we' ll offer on the stage at the festival. Hoping for the win, hoping for the best ✨SLOMO!!!

[@MeasMyself-u3r]

I think you circled the wrong singer... Chanel is the one in the front (2:04)

[@Texaslawhorn]

Yep

[@nenu]

She only got 4% of the vote because the public vote became political with the proindependence and regionalists of different areas of the country voting for Tanxugueiras and the feminists voting for the boob song. But once you go into the general public the situation is very different

[@aprilhoy4010]

Spain really had some great options to pick from. I loved the Galician song, the 'free the nipple' anthem, and the one they went with. Mostly, I was just relieved they didn't pick any of the boring ballads that were in the running. Also, thank you for delving into the controversy and the political dimensions of the entry! That's one of my favorite angles on the contest.

[@emilianoantoniopanciera4979]

And hers was one of the best performance this years

[@auradb1140]

Exacto, por mucho que este señor haya intentado ridiculizarla 😉

[@alexurfantasy]

Im from NYC , Eurovision doesn’t really exist here but I was a club and they had her song playing and the video playing in the background and I was like , who is this ?! I love her , she’s a fierce singer , dancer and overall entertainer . Finally Spain learned to use the popular global Latin music industry to its advantage . She probably would have gotten second or even first had it not been for the deserved , sympathy vote Ukraine got.

[@michelasdisappointmentanda2304]

Wow love this channel, never heard of it before.more PR needed

[@ricklowe2994]

Channel or Chanel?, maybe both.

[@constantine6939]

Are Spanish people really that mad about a song which will definitely get them back in the Top 10 IN NEARLY A DECADE??? Slo Mo is literally the best song Spain has ever sent!

[@noev76]

Yeah, we are. But not for the song or the singer(Well, maybe the song after such a beautiful feministic anthem as Ay, mamá). It's about the feeling of being cheated by the public television, they take our money from the televote, but our opinion (public and demoscopic) wasn't take into account. Just after the jury vote (the first one) we knew Tanxugueiras wouldn't win, they voted Tanxugueiras with the exact points that made imposible to win even if they win both demoscopic and public. Strange, huh? One person of the jury voted Terra with less points than a song which wasn't performed during the festival, as the singer tested positive for Covid and wasn't allowed to sing live. His entry was jugded by his music video.

[@phillobates]

@@noev76 no one cheated on you. The rules were clear. Did Sweden cheat on Swedes not choosing Anders Bagge instead of Cornelia?

[@noev76]

@@phillobates yes, I'm not the only one feeling this way. And let's not begin with everything behind this election. Shall we? It was decided before the festival even started. Nobody gave a shit about that song before the final. It was nobody's favourite. They wanted that song and they elected that song no matter what. If they wanted that so badly, they could chose it directly, without making people pay for a vote that didn't decide anything. I wish her all the BEST in her live, don't get me wrong. I've nothing against her, just the song and the way It was elected

[@phillobates]

@@noev76 everyone reading this girl's comment: it is not true. Had Rigoberta won the televote our representative would have been her (that proves nothing was decided beforehand). This girl is just pissed her fav didn't win.

[@phillobates]

Tanxu fandom is ok with Rigoberta winning and the other way round but both fandom are against Chanel victory = they are not supporting their entry fully but going against Chanel in every single way.

[@sifolden]

I didn’t know anything about this, thanks for making the video, I simply adore your take in Eurovision! About the American show, could you make a video that explains the show, why the made it and how the voting is carried out. I could google it, but google doesn’t have your hot and spicy opinions, and you/ and your team really make fun, detailed and informative videos! (Are you sure you’re not a kinder egg?)

[@aekelly]

Christer Bjorkman moved to California from Sweden to help develop the American Song Contest. He's produced Melodifestivalen for Sweden and a couple of Eurovisions (if you ask me nobody puts on a better Eurovision than Sweden).

[@Winterbay]

@@aekelly The problem with Sweden is that we put on way too much Eurovision...

[@aekelly]

@@Winterbay LOL! Well, when you're that good and you win a lot! 😏😏

[@RajMahall]

Some people follow the Olympics...and some people follow Overthinking Eurovision!

[@mariagraciamorenovegas7722]

You guys missidentified her in the acapella group, and she didn't even appear in the sitcom thing lol

[@samantha7549]

According to wikipedia she appeared in 236 episodes of that sitcom, she wasn't any of the women in the picture though

[@ESCTom]

Btw if you check the voting records from the televote, the numbers in Galicia were gigantic and actually when you exclude this very partisan voting, the televote numbers even out a lot. Rigoberta is actually the one who got screwed over by the televote, as without this partisanship she might have won the televote and it would have been a draw between her and Chanel, and Rigoberta would have won the tiebreak.

[@beatriceposada7504]

RTVE never published any votes by province. So nobody really knows where the votes came from. But the televote only accounted for 25%. The demoscopic vote was designed to avoid that the votes is skewed geographically and to ensure that all demographics are represented. I would be interested in knowing why RTVE decided this was necessary when many other countries don't do it...

[@Martinmiki]

chanel forever ! ❤

[@andresdr3903]

IMPORTANT FACT: you could vote for the Galician song for free. Their autonomous community due to Tanxugueiras singing in their language along with their pro-nacionalism raised a voting method for FREE, if you voted them. There it is the actual reason of them getting so many votes. ANOTHER ONE: same people from Galicia making fake profiles to bully the winning artist everywhere on social media and make more noise than they really could. ABOUT THE BOOBIE SONG: it became a political movement (again). The Political Party “unidas podemos” was the fairy mother of this song. Making everyone that supported them also vote for that song. Also the singer expressed that she did not feel Spanish (again pro-nacionalism). So I basically could not see the point of her representing a country that she clearly said she did not feel she belonged to. It all became so political and manipulated that Chanel winning was just a blessing and more than fair.

[@Mezzanine_]

Fake. Totally fake. Only one mobile company did that and was 300 votes.

[@beatriceposada7504]

It is very easy to repeat what you have read somewhere else, without having much knowledge of the facts, without checking them, without realising how damaging your comments can be. Lots of people from all around Spain voted both Tanxugueiras and Rigoberta, not just from Galicia. And even if you were right and only Galicians or Catalans voted, that would not make the votes less valid. It would have meant that people in other areas could not be bothered vote, or they did not like any songs. You also talk about nationalism without knowing what it practically means. It is not the same in the nazi times, than in Ukrainia or Galicia or in the Basque Country. In even within those areas it will mean different things to different indibviduals. If you had done your research you would know that nationalists do not get that much support in Galician politics. It does not take much research to know that Franco, Fraga, Rajoy and now Feijoo son productos da terra either. Do your research before stating your facts. Also the Benidorm Fest is open to participants of all sexes, ideologies and religions. So even if political orientation had played a role, which haven't, that should not be a criteria to make any of the runner ups less worthwhile. We do not longer live in a dictatorship were only the singers who support the ruling party or ideology can participate. Also I am not sure if you know that nationalism in the Galician context, means that they support their own culture and identity. It is not a synonym of independentism. The majority of the Galician nationalists, which are not that many as you lead to believe, feel Spanish and do not wish to change their status. They just want to see their culture respected. If you were really in social media following the Benidorm Fest, you would know that Galicians in general and their culture received a lot of undeserved humiliating hate too. Defenders of the Andalusian, Aragonese or Galician culture want their music, traditions and language to flourish, not at the expense of other cultures. Those feelings have nothing to do with those people wanted to be independent or being separatists. You can check all those statistics online. You should read the lyrics of the other songs to understand what they talk about. It is not about politics. I do not support Unidas Podemos, but I'd rather have a song supporting maternity or another one about the value of the women ancestors that passed on the rich cultures that coexists in Spain that a message that says look how I move my bum and you get a hard on. Unless, you have not read the SloMo lyrics and have not understood between the lines. Still, I do not make any allegations against Chanel, as I am sure that the fact that she wears suggestive clothing and sings those lyrics with a sexualise dance does not indicate that she is a woman that makes a living by making men hot...in exchange for financial compensation (euphemism). At the end of the day it is the people who accuse both Rigoberta or Tanxugueiras of making these a political issue, the only ones who are making this political. Rigoberta and Tanxugueiras fans, have not accused Chanel's fans of being machistas, misogynist or encouraging women to have sex to improve their economic status or that her supporters are pro-violencia de género, Now, thoughtless people who have crossed the line to express the hate against the 3 top artists, unfortunately In spite of everything. I admire Chanel for her working ethos and I wished her the very best. And I hope one day she can write and compose her own songs and perhaps she will move me as much as the other 2 songs. Good luck in Eurovision Chanel!

[@tagaway6173]

I always thought that Spain have been steadily worst than the UK. And I got happy you thought the same ☺️ But then 00:25 Looking at the graphics *I now disagree* with you (and myself 🤣🤣) *Spain got 3 top ten* UK only one, And overall UK had a total of *5 last places.* Spain only 1. UK is actually worse 🤔 I'm confused😅 Can someone do the quick maths for me?

[@overthinkingit]

Weeell... yeah, we probably exaggerated a little by saying that Spain has done "arguably worse than the UK." That word "arguably" is doing a lot of work there. Here's the best argument though: the UK finished 5th in 2009 (fun fact: it was an Andrew Lloyd Webber song). The last time that Spain finished 5th or better was... 1995.

[@Winterbay]

UK average placing over that period: 20.6111... ES average placing over that period: 18.944... So on average UK has done slightly worse than Spain but on the other hand the UK has a 5th placement as best while Spain only has an 8th placement 😊

[@overthinkingit]

Okay, we concede the UK has done worse than Spain, but can we agree they BOTH have done very badly for longer than many of the current competitors have been alive?

[@Winterbay]

I think that's a fair assessment of the situation yes 😂

[@tagaway6173]

@@Winterbay Thank you! That's what I meant "the average". Forgot the word in English 💀

[@porrabi7886]

Increíblemente bien informado

[@nursajarah]

At the benidorm fest i voted for both Tanxugueiras and Chanel. I must say that when I saw the show from Chanel i was absolutely convinced that she was the best option, i think it's been one of the greatest performances in Eurovision ever. I would like Tanxugueiras to try again with a winning song like their "Figa" was. Terra in my view was not at Figa's level. They must go with a winner alert as they deserve and as Channel's has been.

[@yopyop1949]

You should inform yourself much better to post a video. It tries to be a constructive video but it becomes the opposite. It was full of mistakes. In addition to omitting many more details. Sorry but 0 points 👎🏻

[@Jackadiah]

I didn’t expect to see Keith and Orville in a Eurovision video but here we are

[@overthinkingit]

We watched more of those videos than we had to and they are really sweet.

[@joshidol]

I had to subscribe to this channel ahahaha iconic…and yeah she probably got 4% because she wasn’t born in Spain, classic behaviour form certain individuals.

[@Mezzanine_]

No, not at all. There were two main favourites for the public and “SloMo” wasn’t one of them.

[@eduman2156]

@@Mezzanine_ Wasn't one of them for u. Sorry Sonia, but... your perception is not the only one that exists. There was a lot of diversity of opinions and everyone saw what interested them. Or else the demographic jury also lies according to you? Chanel won because she deserved it. And whoever says the opposite is because she doesn't know how to accept defeat.

[@manuelperez5266]

Que guapo es el muchacho!!! 😍😍

[@bermerubio]

"Surprisingly the boob song was not the one everyone was talking about". Everybody talks in Spain about that song, and of course of Terra too. But Ay Mama was the N.1 song in Spanish charts the week after Benidorm Fest, and Terra was in N.7. Right now, Ay Mama is certified Platinium in Spain and is became and anthem in Spain. And that´s the reason why there are jury panel and a demoscopic panel in Benidorm fest and in a lot of festivals, like SanRemo, because sometimes the televote vote based in fanaticism and don´t reflect the real opinion of the country. That´s the reason why Tanxugueiras won the televote with 70% because of fanaticism. As u can see that the most viewed, streamed and sellying song is Ay Mama with a huge difference. It´s now a Platinium song. And Terra and SloMo are not even Gold yet. (There near and SLomo is going to be Gold before Eurovision, but as u can see the televote didnt reflect the song that the most of spain want). And because of that fanaticism, Chanel was hated a lot and a lot of lies appear to try to disqualify her. Simplemente he querido añadir más información no estoy faltando al respeto a Tanxugueiras y menos a Chanel. Mi apoyo a Chanel 100% que nos va a conseguir un Top 5.

[@emiphone-home7613]

Perfectly said, thanks Berme for your clear and specific description about the facts... We love your channel and love your videos., great job.

[@huguihugh9803]

Ay Mamá is an Anthem for political reasons

[@overthinkingit]

Thanks for the info - we have posted a correction video.

[@North_Poley]

This was intresting, lets how Spain do good

[@jorgeduron1879]

Televote has a very bad record choosing the artist fro Eurovision. Through history, the only whole package was and still chanel !!

[@larrsan]

Not all the actress are Chanel, it’s wrong!

[@Hayastantzi92]

SloMo was meant for J. Lo but didn't go through

[@TheProbotektor]

Sisi.. dad las gracias a Ucrania, os ha salvado el festival. Chanel 1. Por siempre 1.

[@prowelsh56]

thanks for this - very interesting..

[@Sim0n98]

Why do you never plug your podcast on YT? It's really good!

[@angelesmoreno2851]

Chanel es fantástica♥️♥️♥️🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@edomaguaiota899]

giving the vote to the public resulted in Chikilicuatre winning and elected for 2008, never again pls....

[@sergyorey7773]

The answer is , Slomo is not produce by the singer so is more money for the producer company who creates the song. This is the difference with Mama and Terra. It's all about money, same as the Do it for your lover year. It's all about money and power. The televote doesn't function if the false demoscope vote exist. Finally say that Slomo and Chanel are a good song and artist and the question is, who must to decide, public or professionals? That is the question, but never both because this is the result.

[@carlos-mariagarces]

Magnífico análisis.

[@achnix3167]

Great video... And wow only 4%

[@aleqxszj]

I gotta say that i feel really bad that almost everyone in Spain abused Chanel so much when she won. And it got so bad she deleted all her social media like twitter. I really hope that she gets a good placement in the ESC final so she spit on the spanish people that abused her online.

[@ramonparada]

That's only true if you consider comments like "the contest was rigged" an abuse. Nobody blamed her personally

[@phillobates]

@@ramonparada not true. She has received dead threats, racists comments, sexists comments.. So she closed down her Twitter account.

[@ramonparada]

@@phillobates that thing was exaggerated. You can check that her twitter which is not closed by the way, she just stopped tweeting. In the comments of her tweets you can see that this was exaggerated

[@phillobates]

@@ramonparada I've seen it with my own eyes. Not only on tweeter but on KZbin where the comments were reported and deleted. You're whitening the whole thing which it was appalling btw.

[@Anahanabi]

Thank so much for talking about my land, Galicia

[@overthinkingit]

How’d we do with the pronunciation?

[@Anahanabi]

@@overthinkingit peeeeerfect!!!

[@letstalkaboutit3195]

If you are going to do an analysis it would be good to make a full analysis of everything. If you are talking about the judges failure to chose a good entry you should also focus on the publics failure to chose a good entry with Chikilicuatre for example. Also it should be pointed out that 50% was public vote, only difference was that it was divided into demografic and public public vote (people paying to vote for the favourite). The reason for this is also quite spot on if you ask me, for the majority of the the paid votes came from Galicia (the autonomy where TAnxugeiras come from) so if it had only been paid votes it wouldnt have been a representation of what spain actually wanted to take, just what a small part of spain wanted. Either way, looking at all of this after eurovision I think a lot of people have to look back and evaluate what they said and the insults they sent towards Chanel

[@nombre3053]

People always talk about how the chiki chiki was a disaster, but, that year we came 16, that is better than average since the 2000s, the chiki chiki performed better than 59% of all the other songs from 2000's. It was ridiculous? yes, it was a disaster? no, in fact it was pretty average, and even a little bit better than average.

[@eljavix]

I have to congratulate you on your research, equal to none about this. It brings a more objective view of the whole thing. I may even consider subscribing... Good content is hard to find 👍

[@manuellorenzoabdala]

Excelente opinión y certero criterio!!!

[@romandelasalle]

Do you want the public to have all the voting power? Whatch at chiki chiki, a meme, not a song that made it to eurovision.

[@nombre3053]

And performed better than average in eurovision

[@mendesjosr4438]

Do it for your lover's five points from us (Portugal) was us trying to do the scandinavian block voting. We and our Spanish brothers try but often fail. Its like some years we forget and then other years Spain forgets. Ocasionally we both do it and vote for each other as we should but perhaps with less enthusiasm than the scandinavians giving the 12 points to someone else's song just because we...bah...liked it an thought it was much better than our dear neighbours song Come on Spanish bros lets get our act together....although this year Blanca Paloma should easily get a good score from us without having to appeal to the Iberian block solidarity as its a great song, very well performed, and we are familiar and like flamenco so its not an "alien" stetic for us

[@Side_Eye_Shibe]

"saltier than a plate of tapas".... bravo, man... bravo! 👏👏

[@cesarsandoval4583]

Deberían de hacer un video analizando el éxito de Chanel 😜

[@patopaolo]

min 1:42 is not her!

[@overthinkingit]

Ug, so embarrassing. We posted a correction video.

[@blueeyedbaer]

Well that just proves that Spaniards have a bad taste in music because SloMo did extremely well and was actually one of the best entries this year. That "Terra" song would be near the bottom again, just look at France (even though I think that song was amazing). The only other song from Spain that I ever liked in Eurovision was "Quedate conmigo" by Pastora Soler.

[@marcusobrecht2669]

12 p from Sweden to Spain

[@renemortensen5028]

Nice with some background stories. There are definatly better ones though

[@wazza3035]

Good video!

[@felixgp]

voted for the John Hammond reference!

[@Anahanabi]

The one on 1:40 is not Chanel tho :P

[@overthinkingit]

It's not? Is she the one on on the right or none of those three women?

[@eduman2156]

​@@overthinkingit No. None of these actresses is her. But, in addition, there is another mistake. At minute 2:01, she is not a member of the acapella group "Super voices". The girl you point out is Marina Juan (Bijuz).

[@overthinkingit]

Ug, okay, I clearly have brunette face-blindness. I might post a correction tomorrow just to be fair. Out of curiosity how did you recognize Marina Juan, who does not appear to be very famous? Are you a SuperVoices fan? At least I correctly identified Chanel in "El Secreto de Puente Viejo," right?

[@efraimgarcia7876]

@@overthinkingit The clip is from Gym Tony, a show in which Chanel did appear, but she's not in that particular scene. You mistook her for Mariam Hernández.

[@phillobates]

Yes, in two occasions you pointed a girl being Chanel but she's not.

[@perelluisgarciarobles1141]

Chanel level Super Bowl

[@newhuskytwenty]

Si sólo el público elige a nuestro representante como ha elegido a nuestro actual gobierno mejor nos olvidamos ya de Eurovisión para siempre. Afortunadamente estaba allí el jurado (más o menos) profesional que supo apreciar un espectáculo bueno en 360º. If only the public chooses our representative as it has elected our current government, we'd better forget Eurovision forever. Fortunately there was the (more or less) professional jury who knew how to appreciate a good 360º show.

[@sanchezboy8654]

But UK should have won the 2020 Eurovision if there was no COVID-19.

[@ashleyw6728]

Why who would of done that?

[@Side_Eye_Shibe]

0:53 Please no! Just, no....

[@mery0867]

Spain 12 points 👏👏👏🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦💪💪💪💪💪

[@marielaisabels]

Resumen del video: los españoles votan mal

[@comancosmin637]

It's easy to see that it's like most of the songs on tv or the ones that had some success internationaly so regular

[@aekelly]

Yes. Rigoberta was my favorite. I know she would have flopped with that...ahem....prop above her head - as symbolic as it is, people can be so immature and it would have just gotten a lot of the wrong kind of attention. But if they just got rid of that, that song was joyful and catchy and the message was beautiful!

[@AleCaptain]

Happy ending 🤣🍑

[@user-vi1gi7bk1c]

El vídeo me ha gustado, pero creo que no has comprendido bien lo que sucedió en general en España con el Benidorm Fest. Y no me ha gustado nada cómo te has referido a la gran canción de Rigoberta Bandini

[@miguelob3913]

Chanel es puro fuego 🔥 una voz y como baila ganadora

[@valentinmaestrealonso314]

Bravo Chanel . Spain TOP-3

[@roberto2870]

Chanel Winner Eurovision 2022. 💃💃💃💖🔥🍹🍾🍾

[@auradb1140]

🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@andresmiranda6953]

Chanel is a D I V A , so go on overthinking

[@ashleyw6728]

Arse = 100 points

[@miguellupi8709]

If TVE wanted Chanel why make a festival? The answer is money! And terra brought people together, slomo is a song for the fans only. But hey, that Spain gets the best result in the last 15 years.

[@ETIENNE8100]

Oh your video is great 😊 Ok is JLo over ? I hope ,she is so Fake

[@anab3516]

spain winner

[@ramonparada]

Taxugueira's would do very good at Eurovision. So good that France just thought we too have a Celtic region that we have been oppressing for hundreds of years! - Celtic and electronic sounds: check - Celtic aesthetic: check - 3 empowered woman: check - Lots of black and gold: check - Dark eye makeup: check - Men with skirts, women with pants: check - Good song: That's harder to copy If you consider the song that took Tanxugueiras to Benidorm, Figa, the similarities are even more. In conclusion, of course I will vote for our Breton brothers and sisters! Spain has a lot of experience with hiring the best in the World for Eurovision, or somebody that previously won the contest, and wasting a lot of money. We do that every year. RTVE executives might think that the most important thing is that no one can fire them for hiring somebody with an amazing CV. The result does not always worth the money spent

[@joniskahavet]

Allegations of France being a copycat could have made sense if this year's entry would have been the next year's (like with Achille Lauro accused of copying Måneskin, which btw is also an uninformed assumption). How could they have known about Tanxagueira's success this year considering the last date for submitting a song for the French NF was in October last year? Some kind of Celtic witchcraft prophecy?

[@beatriceposada7504]

She only got 4% of the vote, because the public wanted something that sounded more genuine. SloMo is a commercial manufactured product well delivered. But it is nothing innovative. The other 2 options captivated more the hearts and souls of Spanish people who felt moved and represented for different reasons. Also, in a country where there is so much crime against women, the lyrics were not well received. They alienate a large part of the Spanish population. There are already too many songs that unfortunately, portrait women as sexual objects around the world. However, the Spanish people did not appreciate that a song with those lyrics was chosen to represent the country. That is not the image Spanish want to transmit of ourselves of the world. The other 2 runups had feminist and inclusive messages and they were unique and more quirky. Apart from the lyrics people like more their music more and that the artist created their own work.

[@hullie7529]

Please stop lying and spreading misinformation. Spain is one of the countries with less crimes against women in the whole world. Por favor deja de mentir y desinformar. España es uno de los países donde se cometen menos crímenes contra las mujeres en todo el mundo.

[@beatriceposada7504]

@@hullie7529 What missinformation are you referring to? Any women that die because of their gender are one too many.

[@aam9617]

As speaker of a majority language in Spain, Tachungueiras are galician nacionalist group and they didn’t represent the rest of Spain.

[@Mezzanine_]

As speaker of Galicia, part of your country: tremendo facha, que no reconoce que hay más culturas que una en su propio país y quiere imponerlas.

[@emiphone-home7613]

Since you’re all about facts, you should ask why there was huge gap on the tele voting not just from Chanel but with Rigoberto who finished second. You should know that a mobile company from Galicia offered free sms so people could vote for Tanxugueiras, The vast majority of votes for this group came from Galicia. Suggestion, best to get all the facts straight before throwing misleading info. out there. Btw here in Barcelona we love Chanel, of course everyone had their favorites on Benidorm Fest but now most of the Spanish Eurofans are behind our girl. Sadly your video portraits a different story, I guess some people need to dig in the dirt to get noticed, good luck.

[@tagaway6173]

Has this been reported and confirmed in Spanish media? I wouldn't mind an article/video talking about it.

[@bielgaztelu234]

@@tagaway6173 Se confirmó.

[@emiphone-home7613]

It has been reported in several media outlets and RTVE was even asked about this at the press brief following Chanel"s victory, they could not do anything about it cause there are no rules saying that mobile companies can't buy votes, which is what essentially happened. To confirm it even further two friends of mine living at A Coruña where offered free phone calls & sms , directly inciting to vote for an specific artist., still RTVE can't penalized those votes cause again there are no specific rules about it. My claim is for people to get facts correctly. Chanel has gone through enough hate coming from a toxic fan based. I didn't vote for her but she's our representative and I’m 100% behind our girl.

[@Juansgh]

@@tagaway6173 Tanxugueiras had a lot of support from Spanish Eurofans and Galician people (like they had a 50% of audience in Galicia the day of the Benifest) but that company only got them around 300 votes iirc. It wasn't a lot but I mean, from a total of 150.000 they got 100k so thats A LOT. No one knew Chanel before the Benidorm Fest and she wasnt even among the favorites to win, but she shook everyone and did it.

[@mariamilagrovolverdegarcia3002]

Is something like JLo dancing and singing one cha cha cha.

[@firelaf1284]

Well if it wasn't for politics and pity votes she should have won. And I think deservedly so too. The performance was LEAGUES above anyone else.

[@vl2809]

It's an utterly superficial song that will be forgotten quicker than saying Adios.

[@overthinkingit]

I don't know, this one might stay on the jogging playlist for years. It's a bop as the kids say.

[@LRM12o8]

It filled me and my queer friends with laughter to see Spain come out with such a generic latin dance song and drowning us in almost naked butts to distract from its mediocrity and the fact that the baseline in the chorus is a blatant rip-off of some older dance track with that same melody in a prominent synth line. I was very disappointed to see the "butt magic" actually worked...

[@liul]

What a prude

[@LRM12o8]

I'll say the same to you when a man sings a mediocre song about how all the girls are drooling over the bulge in his pants and the performance consists mainly of several men shoving their barely concealed crotches into the camera and you don't enjoy it. Not that that would ever happen, but I can dream...

[@jPod07]

Sit down.

[@ameliecarre4783]

Dancing on the edge of vulgar is a perilous exercise. Often the quality of the music, the catchiness of the tune tips the scale the right way. I liked Fuego, eventually. But a pantless matador costume, however richly embroidered, I just can't. But Spain should be happy with the results. Speaking from Britany, the celts traditions didn't pay much this year.

[@LRM12o8]

As a gay man I found it quite repulsive and desperate how in your face they were showing their as-good-as naked butts. felt like I was drowning in ass! 😂 I think this song is so mediocre that nobody would have remembered this song, had it not been the only Latin dance song one this year. (Also the bass line in the chorus is stolen from another popular club song! I don't know the title because I hate club music, but it's a very recognizeable and prominent synth melody, so it's still obvious to me despite the fact it's not even my genre!) And I'm disappointed that the song was ranked so high and apparently left an impression in people's minds, rather than just on their faces.

[@juanpablofernandez3536]

No hay fronteras > Castilian language really. (all are spanish). The best way is spanglish and take example from Latam dude. 😉❤️

[@huguihugh9803]

Benidorm is in Galicia, and most of the votes come from there.

[@cristrguacl]

Benidorm is in the Valencian Community, at the other side of the country.

[@tagaway6173]

Even if it was there, the televotes are from all around the country, aren't they?

[@Winterbay]

@@tagaway6173 Yep. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Galicians came out to a higher extent than other parts of Spain.

[@overthinkingit]

Sure but so what? Tanxugueiras won the voting in a landslide, and the fact that most of those votes came from Tanxugueiras fans isn't surprising or unfair.

[@emiphone-home7613]

@@overthinkingit Galicians were given free sms and free calls to vote for an specific artist, I think people should know that small detail. It has not only been reported but personally 2 friends of mine living in Galicia benefited from this and they voted numerous times., Most of Tanxugueiras votes came from Galicia. FACTS

[@agn855]

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