Today it's the main tanks who get the 'git gud guide' treatment. This is actually a very hard role to learn properly but have no fear, Freedo brings the heat in a guide that you'll be able to use as a resource to continually draw reference from whenever you need it. Hope you enjoy!
@astrodeath13226 жыл бұрын
Your Overwatch Can you do off tanks next
@Zathren6 жыл бұрын
Could we send in a game where we won but we got hard carried? Nothing makes me feel worse after a Comp game than knowing I couldn't do much top help my team.
@thewinner83466 жыл бұрын
You guys' "We're ALL trash at Overwatch" is extremely flawed and false on many points.
@yoshitheonly6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video explaining why Tanks get gold damage/kills so often? My friend gets salty and complains about the DPS while tanking after he gets gold damage. I do it as well and I know why I do but can't explain it nor can I explain why he shouldn't hold it against the DPS.
@omer78956 жыл бұрын
Do you accept console gameplay ?
@underdog37846 жыл бұрын
Tip to make your videos better: at the end of long videos like this, you should end it by briefly restating all the main points you made ( use lucio, get value out of bubble, don’t charge in and die, etc.) so that we don’t forget what you said. I’ll end the video, and next time I play ranked I can’t remember what the video said, and it’d help if I could fast forward to the end and see a summarized list of the main points rather than watching the whole thing again. Thanks guys keep up the good work👌.
@20spray16 жыл бұрын
The entire Lego movie was the advertisement before this KZbin video. I decided to watch the whole thing haha
@gaboqv5 жыл бұрын
what
@Cadon-vr6uw4 жыл бұрын
Lol free movie
@niixical4 жыл бұрын
Bs, but sure buddy
@pumkin13194 жыл бұрын
@@niixical nah i got it 2 Times aswell
@logan62324 жыл бұрын
Nixical that was actually a thing, you could watch the entire lego movie as ads
@evanfanara84206 жыл бұрын
Personal Rein tips that helped me out 1. Earthshatter is expendable just use it, even just shattering like two people isn't that bad 2. Give your barrier some breaks, putting it up for even a millisecond will reset the recharge timer, don't keep flashing it for no reason 3.charge, although not useless, is something that should be used very conservatively 4. Don't firestrike genjis 5. Be on comms and tell your team when your pushing or pulling back 6.dont let your barrier break
@evanfanara84206 жыл бұрын
@JeremyCuddles well true but Reinhardt gets so many shatters compared to most heroes he can really just throw them around and not have to worry about getting a 4 or 5 man one
@alexcleveland47116 жыл бұрын
So long as Dva isn't eating your firestrikes, earthshatter is one of the fastest charging ultimate in the game. I have no problem with shattering 2-3 people because most likely you will kill them, and if not you get it up again so quickly its not a huge loss.
@kingpaucho5 жыл бұрын
My issue is, when I play with my friends and the such, I constantly get yelled at for putting my shield down. Even if it's about to be broken.
@PersianPlatypus5 жыл бұрын
@@kingpaucho Then tell them not to tell you how to play your role and to use cover when you say you're putting it down lol
@xFulgor6 жыл бұрын
Step 1 : Be a tank Step 2 : go in and take a sh*tload of damage (which healers can't sustain for a long period) Step 3 : Get rekt Step 4 : Blame it on healers
@lordescanor82324 жыл бұрын
Step 5: do it again
@Daddy_seals-12723 жыл бұрын
@@lordescanor8232 step 6 and again
@cyruspowers63733 жыл бұрын
Step 5: The other 99% of the time die because of blind supports.
@PhantomEmperor6 жыл бұрын
I just yolo charge in with rein proceed to die and then blame my team especially the healers 🙃
@seess82516 жыл бұрын
you joke about it...
@PhantomEmperor6 жыл бұрын
@@seess8251 I'm quick to point fingers playboi
@ChristophelusPulps6 жыл бұрын
I mean, give me a three second heads-up before you yolo charge and I'm cool with it. Especially as Lucio, I'll fly right in with you and hope the team follows in with speed and-- okay you already charged in with three teammates still coming back from spawn. Yay...
@havocgr19766 жыл бұрын
You should also scream LEEEEROOOOYYYYY
@FrancoDFernando6 жыл бұрын
As a rein main, whenever I play support, it irritates me whenever the rein on my team does this
@alexsitaras65086 жыл бұрын
I was the Rein on blizzard world, I feel like that was one of my more important matches as far as learning the game. Also my first exposure to GOATS was in that match. Looking back at it, my shield management was atrocious.
@eliseoandrade1626 жыл бұрын
Yes really bad shield managing. Not commiting. Not charging ever I think and missing every fire strike if I had 2 guess your sens is too high or too low. Always try and only fire strike enemy rein. Its hard 2 miss him and most of the time you hit more people behind him. Dont shoot it unless you know what you're hitting. Hope you keep on improving!
@leftylucyxoxo6 жыл бұрын
hey thats how we continue growing as players. gotta take an impartial look at our play or have others who are informed help us learn. mad respect for putting your gameplay out there and allowing the community to learn things too. good luck grinding
@GlenForonda6 жыл бұрын
The first step in fixing an issue is realizing that there is even an issue in the first place! Really good of you to recognize your faults, most people either never see theirs or ignore them!
@Gildamidget736 жыл бұрын
There is only one main tank and his name is mccree
@AndersonMallony-EricCF6 жыл бұрын
tracer is better
@Myztyrio6 жыл бұрын
I tank as Hanzo
@ninoski40436 жыл бұрын
@@GiovanniSmith What about Widowmaker
@aurorasky94376 жыл бұрын
@@ninoski4043 I'm already widowmaker..
@I_am_a_cat_6 жыл бұрын
Zen is obviously OP main tank in season 14 right now
@clockwork90016 жыл бұрын
11:38 that accidental reaper kill lol
@jdkdjddjddjdjdjdjdjdf78366 жыл бұрын
Lmao LOL so badass turns a shitty jump into a slapdown
@papaxota47255 жыл бұрын
Straight up just sat on him
@hashira19366 жыл бұрын
Main tanking requires the most amount of game sense and positioning
@pasqui61216 жыл бұрын
See this is the problem: we have 13 dps and only 3 main tanks...
@aubsaurusrex6 жыл бұрын
That's because there are a lot of ways to deal damage but there are a limited number of ways to block damage and make space
@musik-ym8rk6 жыл бұрын
and 0 healers
@Shottyy5 жыл бұрын
Lee McDonald Paladins has some good ideas of tanks :)
@joehales61535 жыл бұрын
I totally agree I can imagine that it is difficult to come up with original inventive ideas but it's more down to blizzard wanting to subvert expectations when they could just focus on making a new hero with a cool kit Take home for example There was no need to make him a hamster absolutely no need the game would have just a much playability and meta I'd the had made him a baby gorilla in the mech But no they decided that they will make him a hamster for no reason other than "Hahaha hamster ball do you get it jeff, do you get it" Like they seem to spend way to much time on expectation subversion and it ends up having an impact of n game experience
@joehales61535 жыл бұрын
But hopefully sigma can change things
@joshsumner16116 жыл бұрын
Why my youtube recommendations gotta keep bullying me
@ninoski40436 жыл бұрын
IKR, everytime its like "you're bad at this, you're bad at that, how to do this, 10 things you do wrong!"
@I_am_a_cat_6 жыл бұрын
Call the cops on youtube because of this.
@Ethobot6 жыл бұрын
IM NOT BAD AT MAINTANK, YOU ARE. REEEEEEEEEEEE
@jordanandluner6 жыл бұрын
Ethobot WHAT IM NOT BAD MY TEAM IS. REEEEEEEEEE
@jordanandluner6 жыл бұрын
Samuel Maurer NO IME ZE BEST REEEEEEE
@Alduizard6 жыл бұрын
no u
@Valaroy_Krim6 жыл бұрын
no u
@jordanandluner6 жыл бұрын
no SHUT THE FUQ UP
@MrOPD6 жыл бұрын
Why you're bad at main tank: Because you don't have a Lucio.
@cheatcode256 жыл бұрын
That basically what he said the whole video
@lavishcole6 жыл бұрын
It's true tho. Rein zarya without a lucio is a soft throw
@Freezerboy696 жыл бұрын
"Always charge as soon as it's off cool down to ensure that you get as many kills as possible, after all the job of Reinhardt is to protect the team and obviously the team would be a lot safer if the enemy team is eliminated. Too easy"
@nanomachines80236 жыл бұрын
Horizon Rein here! Thanks for using my clip, and thanks for the critiques! They certainly helped!
@Hiroth866 жыл бұрын
Youroverwatch: Bad Teammates are a Myth Youroverwatch: 3:10 Oh look, it's a Mythological Pharah :D
@thenodgod17356 жыл бұрын
Bad teammates are way too real, there are too many games that are unwinnable and everyone who plays this game can attest to that, including YO guys. What is a myth is that it's these bad teammates is what's holding you back.
@DexterNewton326 жыл бұрын
this. all they do is slow you down. if you're good enough you will rise eventually, even if its just inch by inch. but its exactly this fact that makes it such a frustrating crawl at times
@BelphegorXVI6 жыл бұрын
But paying attention to the bad teammates is useless, that's the point. You should still focus on what YOU can do better, can't control them.
@mongke20346 жыл бұрын
@@DexterNewton32 Finally someone who understands that you're the only variable in a game that has an exactly 50% chance to be a win or loss assuming blizzard isn't against you specifically
@casualcatharsis32636 жыл бұрын
Youroverwatch: Bad Teammates are a Myth, you can always raise your mechanical skill regardless of context Youroverwatch: Here's how to improve your main tank play so that you can climb at any rank: Have a lucio on your team ; )
@lambit9236 жыл бұрын
The fact that your'e basically offering free coaching to anyone who wants it is unbelievably generous of you. I applaud your effort and look forward to sending you some of my terrible gameplay.
@moongoblinstudios86216 жыл бұрын
Seriously. Fantastic content. I’m consistently amazed at your ability to keep up meaningful and entertaining content all this time. Been a long time subscriber and I seriously SERIOUSLY love this channel. Way to go.
@paladinsrage46466 жыл бұрын
*Read this and I’ll explain;* _Okay if you main tank or off-tank YOU need to understand you can’t play the same at diamond as you would in masters or in gold as you would in plat. You need to adapt a little bit as team coordination is different as so is everything else._ _These lowers SR games you won’t get the healing you’d like, you probably don’t know when to peel or when to push. There is a catch, take control; if you are rein as for zarya bubble and try to enable her by enabling yourself. These low ranks you need to use bubble for charge and typically not for saving people. You also can’t be as aggressive due to healing but remember; they have around the same healing as you... and the same damage._ _Higher sr is more healing and more damage. In lower SR you must get your team to try and work with you and you must shot call. Because having your team try and work it matters a lot. Now teams don’t exactly work at all in anything under high gold. You should just be able to play dps in these ranks a climb super easily through just time and practice on fragging._ _Its really hard to try and give advice in low ranks as they are so chaotic, but my best advice is to tell your teammates to say hold bubble for YOU and call when you need it. Also, as I stated the easiest way to climb low ranks is just dps and frag out and carry games up to where you want._ _Once you hit around mid plat you’ll get games where people play together (as stated you’ll get games, not every game) and you can start playing for space and picks. Also, if you have a numbers advantage please please please don’t be a wuss and play as a team and work to finish and secure the fight. If you get picks and just wait your literally throwing your advantage away._ _Just because you get picks doesn’t mean you can’t lose._
@rikkuyako78696 жыл бұрын
I always See You Comment and I Must Say you're Knowable abt Lower Ranks especially this Which is Very True it Seems You Played alot at Lower Sr But Your Top 500 Do You Smurf alot? or Did You Have to Grind the Hard Grind to Understand Lower Sr Mentality?
@paladinsrage46466 жыл бұрын
Rikku yako *No, I have friends who are at lower ranks. Plus I am at fault for boosting a friend up to gm from gold. It wasn’t a planned thing though.*
@paladinsrage46466 жыл бұрын
Rikku yako *Here let me add on;* _I also have a good amount of time on console, nowhere near my pc time but I’ve experienced that... Blizzard doesn’t care about console at all and I feel bad for those who still play on it. On console the lowest I was, was high plat and the amount of leavers and throwers was extensive. It was harder to actually climb on console then on pc... plus on pc I can just play widow and get pocketed and completely carry games._
@FeedMeSalt6 жыл бұрын
Sadly this isnt true. One smurf equals many. As a support main smurfing isnt even noticable, but when a widow from my elo gets into a smurf game with my friends it's over. And that's 4 outa ten games on average. They will have more dmg then you. Or more healing. Or something. A fair game is rare very rare. Hence the coin flip.
@paladinsrage46466 жыл бұрын
FeedMeSalt _I totally agree, it’s always a coin flip but YOU are the only constant. That’s why when I did smurf I wasn’t on tank or off-tank. I can absolutely carry games with zarya but widow is just easier. It’s the reason why I did that, not all roles are the same but it’s like a full circle. Tanks create space and opportunity and enable the dps, and the supports; support and enable the tanks and the dps; and through picks the dps enable the entire team. At least that the idea, when I was down in plat boosting my friend (I’ve never been lower, and my friend that was gold was high gold.) I ofc was that widow that you’d see, but like 4 in 10 games? Like I guess I’m confused about your elo; as are you the one smurfing to play with your friends, and someone who is also smurfing from your elo absolutely decimates your team. That’s at least what I’m understanding; which if it’s what your saying I agree completely. A masters widow can even destroy a team in diamond._
@Osiren_6 жыл бұрын
You guys should have done this earlier, this is miles above what you guys normally make. Extremely informative without pointing out the obvious or taking too long on points in the video.
@GregHafer5 жыл бұрын
I love how he assumes that when you play Rein there will be a Zarya, that both healers are healing instead of one trying to do damage on the opposite side of the map, and that there are enough people in voice chat to hear you say "my shield is recharging."
@dokscy445 жыл бұрын
That gold Winston must be the worst Winston I've ever seen. I mean, staying inside your safety bubble is like, instinctive to all human beings, right?
@lavishcole6 жыл бұрын
These videos are really, really good. Thank you for putting put this information into the community.
@glacier_official6 жыл бұрын
As a rein main this video is amazing, I needed this
@Prestiginii6 жыл бұрын
g_lacier persona!
@glacier_official6 жыл бұрын
@@Prestiginii ayyy
@eliseoandrade1626 жыл бұрын
What rank are you
@glacier_official6 жыл бұрын
@@eliseoandrade162 2216
@eliseoandrade1626 жыл бұрын
@@glacier_officialwhat's your specs and what's your sens? What fps and ping do you usually get.
@flynfrancis7534 жыл бұрын
I just had a game where a rienheardt tried to tank a nano boosted opposing rein, fire from the road hog and the rest of the dps he dies and proceeded to say “the healers weren’t good enough” so many tanks make the mistake of thinking that their heals can stop the damage from the whole enemy team, pleas don’t do this
@Mr.ShadeO6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Rein on Hanamura that pins at 24:43 was a victim of Overwatchs wonky geometry. He pins the enemy Zen through TWO doorways, sliding around the walls like he's covered in hot butter. Might not have been a good pin to begin with, but I can't even count how many times one of my pins that looked good at first ended up backfiring cause of the game's weird ass geometry.
@lavishcole6 жыл бұрын
True rein is new Tony hawk
@DexterNewton326 жыл бұрын
pinning the Zen to prevent him from saving the team or himself with trans?🤔
@Mr.ShadeO6 жыл бұрын
I pretty much never pin anymore, except as a travel tool. It gets you killed the majority of the time lol
@Drewreno6 жыл бұрын
Yea, when I originally did that charge I called the pin on trans because we were going for grav dragon, but when Zarya held it, it made my play very bad, pretty much same thing heppened with the other charge later on.
@musik-ym8rk6 жыл бұрын
JeremyCuddles i think he wanted to use the pin to agressively reposition himdelf but than failed to bump against a wall early enough. instead he pinnes the zen and rides throug the whole map accidentaly
@loladas96 жыл бұрын
Shield management? Positioning? Fuck that, I'm a member of the W Squad
@DaysforDaays6 жыл бұрын
dude really good stuff putting text in the bottom left to signal the exact timing to do things. I think thats really going to have some impact.
@TheNerd6 жыл бұрын
The Rein Player at 23:00 on horizon is a classic example of UNBIND CHARGE
@kkumiss886 жыл бұрын
Great video and really great points. I like the stark contrast you showed (on purpose or not) between the first rein and the last rein. The first rein was too passive at the choke and they ended up never setting foot past hanamura doors. The last rein would charge deep into the enemy backline at the start of every team fight and leave his whole team behind. Great stuff
@samzheng58036 жыл бұрын
Main tank requires big braine
@ericchen94026 жыл бұрын
Brayne*
@rajsagar68776 жыл бұрын
Or a brig main ??🤔🤔🤔
@ericchen94026 жыл бұрын
@@rajsagar6877 that comment STUNNED ME
@chickenflower48296 жыл бұрын
Sam Zheng 5Head
@hatsunemiku80076 жыл бұрын
@The SturdyTubers big brain brig main = pog no aim no brain winston main = resident sleeper
@manqobashongwe13015 жыл бұрын
19:06 "Well, it's time to rank up today." That killed. 😂
@alexc-r18266 жыл бұрын
Bad cuz mad Mad cuz bad Just don’t get stunned 4head
@charlesmorrow18136 жыл бұрын
Great video! So happy to see vod reviews coming to the channel!
@MatthewGaither6 жыл бұрын
Informative video, folks. Thanks for doing it. I don't play Rein if I can help it but I do play and enjoy the dive tanks and Orisa every once in a while. Shield placement and management is so critical for both Rein and Orisa as well as communication with your team. I still have a lot to improve upon.
@KingArthur1016 жыл бұрын
Call the cops Freedo and Eddy killed Liam and Weagal
@bonfert98916 жыл бұрын
The clip at 14:00. Are these green triple shots Lucio or Genji?
@DexterNewton326 жыл бұрын
looks like Lucio to me
@SophieFox9475 жыл бұрын
Tanks are the most difficult to play in OW. DPS? Just stay alive in a place where you can kill things, and get multikills with your ult. Healer? Just stay alive in a place where you can heal your allies, and don't use two defensive ults at the same time. Tank? Make sure to stay with your team (no matter where the fuck they go), coordinate with your team (no matter how much they flame), make sure your team stays alive while staying alive yourself, save your healers, fight the enemy tanks, stay in front, charge your ult and use it wisely.
@rjtennis19635 жыл бұрын
I'm A tank main and you are greatly simplifying other roles to make tanks seem like the hardest role like you could easily apply "go with the team no matter where the fuck they go coordinate with your team no matter how much they flame, make sure your team stays alive while keeping yourself alive, and charge your ult and use it wisely" all to the healer role
@rjtennis19635 жыл бұрын
And every dps doesn't just "get multi kills with ults" sym for example can win a fight for her team with a good shield and Ashe can get value with a bob who gets no kills as long as it creates space and takes focus off your team there is many more examples ,also dps has to protect healers too
@shmarfle476 жыл бұрын
As an Orisa main, this video has been very helpful! I always (or at least I believe I do) use my shields to their best of their ability along with fortify at the right time but I always forget that Halt! exists. I personally don't think I use it enough and when I do it doesn't feel effective.
@HagovCafetero6 жыл бұрын
Like usual your videos are amazing guys thank you for this guide! I share this one with a few players are called itself "main tank" but they make mistakes so easy in defend or dive comps
@Critirus6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you mentioned this, but as a tank player (especially winston) always keep track of enemy tank ult charges. It helps you decide when it's good or not to be in a situation. For winston players, MEMORIZE THE COOLDOWN TIMES! You will love that hero way more.
@kempo54765 жыл бұрын
my winston after watching this video actually imroved exponentially- thank you
@ItsLumina6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for lowering my self esteem even further!
@DexterNewton326 жыл бұрын
gotta face the truth at some point if it helps you improve in the long run
@davidboltzka51035 жыл бұрын
I already have none so now I don’t give a flick
@samwoodley16536 жыл бұрын
Doing better retreating is something I think I needed to hear for a while. Often I'd find myself jumping back into a choke but my bubbles aren't back and my health isn't quite full. Also, my team has cooldowns and health as well, so even if I'm back to full it doesn't mean they will be. I'll probably win more fights now.
@musik-ym8rk6 жыл бұрын
27:00 that ana sleep darts tho amazong how she always gets the enemy rein
@StrimClocks6 жыл бұрын
Basic advice: Rein? you need a Lucio Winston? Use bubble after jump Orisa? Keep running and throwing down shields until the other team gets sick of chasing you and you can shoot them all in the back Now, the answer you really have give me is how do I stop my team from acting like a bunch of cats and doing their own thing? How do I actually get them to follow me and a plan rather than just trying to frag and getting pwned?
@johnnymeans80436 жыл бұрын
Use LFG, make sure they have mics, and have pub profiles so you know what they play.
@amchound6 жыл бұрын
As a main tank player I either see Rein’s play to aggro or too passive. A quicktip to get past a choke is shield hop. Throw shield jump and push forward/repeat while communicating with your team. Don’t keep your shield up for too long and let it get melted in the choke with spam. As monkey your priority targets are low health enenies and supports then squishies. Plan ahead when your diving in and where your gonna dive out while making sure your in your supports line of sight; also, communicate with your D.va or Hamster on who you are diving so they can back you up. Orisa is mostly played like a passive tank but you can play agro with her you just have to make sure your other tank is near you or can peel for you if you get focused on. Also, shiekd CD management is a must so throw/use your shields wisely. Mainly just throw shield to protect yourself or near the middle of a team fight to have it act like a Symm ult.
@amchound6 жыл бұрын
Hector, yeah I hear ya. Playing main tank can be a lot of fun and a nightmare at the same time. Since Rein and Winston are the main tanks that are used the most often it just comes down to having your team follow up on what your doing. If you have an Ana on your team have her nanoboost you and call for it when your ready. A nanoboosted Rein or Winston is a good way to be agro and blitz the enemy team. What I usually do is communicate with my other tank and main support. Those two are the most important if your the main tank. If the DPS or off healer aren’t communicating then it’s not the end of the world. On Hybrid maps and 1st point assault maps on attack a Lucio speedboast as the off healer is a super asset to have when your the main tank. So, at the start of the match you can atleast try and ask if the off healer can go Lucio for the reason I mentioned.
@TheKennyDubz6 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity I thought about submitting some games as well but I had 2 questions. Can we send in games of games where we win as well? Are we able to send in games from our streams? I wondered about the first question since usually Freedo says to send in games we lose but I think we can still learn from victories as well since you could still make some silly mistakes in games you win or what you might have done that assisted in facilitating a successful push. The second question is more so due to also being a content creator so just about all games I'd have recorded would have a layout of some kind.
@Avatarrealm6 жыл бұрын
I'm a 24-7 off tank, thats why I am bad at main tank. I can't play like Reinhart/Winston using DVA and my teammates don't understand that.
@maximbiscop44516 жыл бұрын
I get that rein might be a stretch but Winston and dva play really similarly. as dva you dive target to get a kill and get back to support the heal. same for Winston. mobilitywise they are the same the only difference lies in the way a bubble and dmatrix are used.I think playing dva is more forgiving than playing Winston, but dva is a more intricate roll imo so transitioning should not be to difficult if you were to practice for a couple of hours
@shadowstorm93636 жыл бұрын
From xperience in lower rank I can say that in lower rank rien is like moira I mean like how moira runs out of juice in the middle by constantly healing, like that rien presses M2 till that rectangle breaks and hopefully they wish have won the fight by then Also Lucio is super under-rated in lower elo 4 some reason
@jacoblaramore43466 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't believe it's a requirement to have a high sensitivity on main tank with a few conditions... 1) You have a large enough mouse pad 2) You are comfortable with your sensitivity that you know if you turn 'blank' that it will put your screen in 'blank' direction, so basically good control with it. I run Winston and Reinhardt at 4.10 sensitivity with 900 DPI, and it works pretty well for me. Most main tank players use something drastically higher, but it's personal preference. I also think that there's such a thing as running a sensitivity too high on main tank. For example, players who may freeze up or panic end up trying to jump in one direction but fly in another because of how little movement it may take for them to move where they want to go. If you have low fps, having a sensitivity very high would make it even harder to track targets than having a sensitivity too low. That being said, the clip at 10:01 contains weak ties to the claim that his "sensitivity was too low" and that "he couldn't track the Lucio perfectly because of that." To begin with, the player's tracking, in general, was already bad, and it consisted of weird flick movements. Looking closely at 10:31, the player does end up turning, but it seemed like he didn't know how much to turn in the first place, and he didn't properly predict where the Lucio would end up after jumping and turning. While it is very possible that the player could have performed better in that instance with a higher sensitivity, I don't feel that the clip really illustrated the claim as strongly as it should have.
@preposterous10246 жыл бұрын
Nah, healers are definitely the problem here
@TrueDue6 жыл бұрын
About time someone spoke the truth!
@kky73466 жыл бұрын
A normal Person maybe it’s because they’re too busy attacking or defending
@TashaxMack5 жыл бұрын
TrueDue this is why I mostly main the healers because people don’t know how to look around and freaking HEAL
@sourpussyass11674 жыл бұрын
A normal Person or don’t play mercedes
@EnigmaEnginseer5 жыл бұрын
As a Rein main I struggle on deducing when it’s good to use my shield to push forward with my team or hold the line. However those moments when we do commit are legendary and our coordination usually gets us a wipe. This is why I love Rein, he takes a good bit of setup and teamwork, but when it’s time to go in he absolutely bodies everything. As of present day I’m a Reinhardt/Sigma main with an occasional Roadhog.
@grumpygoof3496 жыл бұрын
I may rag on this channel a bit, but your coaching videos are awesome. Seriously, make more of these.
@vinceagashi11216 жыл бұрын
The Reinhardt you reviewed at the beginning needs to take some risks. He held on to that shatter way too long and had lots of opportunities to use it.
@milesyoungblood71735 жыл бұрын
I don’t play tank often but this video gave me some new knowledge that will come in handy
@thenodgod17356 жыл бұрын
Somewhat unrelated, but it's quite baffling what many players think on how Rein should be played: I had a Zarya last night that said he's keeping his bubble for me but I'm not charging in. After a small discussion I'm eventually like 'I'm not charging into their full team, r u crazy!?' and then I finally got some bubbles. I also had a wiseguy dps player that laughed at me and called me hard stuck Gold while arguing that Winston is not a main tank. lol Great video, btw!
@MEETOTIS6 жыл бұрын
Hey Frito, thanks for the videos, but could you add a segment of correct engagements by the tanks so we can see correct actions to go for instead of just negative actions?
@YourOverwatch6 жыл бұрын
This is a relatively new series, our Advanced Guide series is all positively minded and many feel seeing higher ranked games doing things right has limited applicability to their games. Obviously there's no way to do _everything_ with limited time, but I may look to do more Advanced Guides in the future as well. -F
@qasimthedream52436 жыл бұрын
Absolute great video, climbed 200 SR using these tips
@mkwsoxfan6 жыл бұрын
Great video, could have been titled When to abandon/give into the "we need a shield excuse". Watching them rein zarya into sym,torb,mei,etc on horizon was hard to watch, very useful tips though
@lavishcole6 жыл бұрын
We need more heals fam, lucio you should go mercy 😂😂😂
@ryanmccarthy75726 жыл бұрын
A lot of people want to complain about how “broken” Brigette is because wah wah wah I get stunned blah blah blah. But in reality Lucio is what makes Rein/Zarya so deadly. Lucio is truly the most “OP” underrated support right now. Same goes for Hammond who is the most “OP” underrated tank right now. Just you wait. Hammond will be called “OP” soon and especially when Sombra gets a nerf.
@lavishcole6 жыл бұрын
I agree lucio and hammond are criminally underrated. Their kits are really unique and there aren't a ton of people that have mastered them as opposed to a character like tracer.
@austinvest68724 жыл бұрын
That was so good. Thank you explaining all those thought processes.
@aidenless34795 жыл бұрын
10:20 DPI has nothing to do with any of this, it's all about training your arm to land the 180s and it certainly won't affect your actions per minute OR your aim on a Lucio
@liundeirkil87066 жыл бұрын
Reins need to learn to short distance charge more often
@vincentbarnibosselaar18325 жыл бұрын
LiUnDe IRKIL they help against reaper
@sheriffcahill6 жыл бұрын
Really useful. It's so hard to know when to start brawling with Rein and this helps. Also, my Winston primal rages are garbage and I'm now going to go off and play some customs to practice. Thanks!
@Osk426 жыл бұрын
Now do all this without getting any heals
@Beezle666 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ghoulbuster16 жыл бұрын
just play hog zarya 4head
@crazebamm6 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoooo
@therockingvolbeat36304 жыл бұрын
Now try being a healer but your heals mean nothing, because you main tank charges the enemy and takes in so much damage that your heals can't sustain them, then getting blamed for their shit play
@isaacclarcke47886 жыл бұрын
The plat winston has 9000 iq just look at how beautifly he kills the reaper
@Zolfried6 жыл бұрын
2nd clip, winston needs to use headset, or lower the input volume so the mic doesn't catch your gameplay sound or use push to talk... super annoying to the rest of the team -.-
@Parkwoodss6 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people don’t understand the point is to get to the objective, and use your abilities accordingly to take it / push payload.
@Dewabarasunderan6 жыл бұрын
So for Winston: raise your sensitivity and track perfectly? It is way harder to never loose tracking when on high sensitivity...
@davidcapo45226 жыл бұрын
Could you do a map by map every fight spot analysis?
@WusigiDr13 жыл бұрын
What video has the layout for there communication wheel??
@Cooklid76 жыл бұрын
What sensitivity range do you recommend for Winston?
@WarrickRanger6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I bought my very first second account from the Black Friday sale and decided it will be my main tank account; I’m a support main but looking to diversify. Already I’m playing about a tier below my main account (still in quick play but basing it off my teammates/opponents SR). What’s a good sens for tanks? I’m 800 DPI and 4.8 sens on Zen/Moira
@maximbiscop44516 жыл бұрын
sens is all preference. I play my dps and support on 800dpi and 2 in game sens and for rein Winston I put sens on 4. you don't need to massively change your sense. as Winston it is important that you can do quick 180 and 360. if possible the best way is to have a button that changed your dpi for quick movement and one for tracking
@rw34046 жыл бұрын
YourOverwatch these days: "Why won't y'all play Lucio?"
@LikeaBossA106 жыл бұрын
Freedo I have a couple points I disagree on and I would love to be proved wrong or hear your thoughts. While high sens on main tanks is good for reaction purposes, I don’t agree that it helps with tracking. In my mind that is more of a distance-to-180 familiarity thing. I also don’t like suggesting an earlier fight for the rein on blizzard world, since that enables flankers, enemy high ground, and makes your retreat path an unnecessary bottleneck. Thoughts?
@YourOverwatch6 жыл бұрын
The terms "high" or "low" are incredible subjective so don't let that fool you into misunderstanding. React to things on screen faster = better gameplay. Simple. If you can't 180 fast enough to IMMEDIATELY start doing damage again, problem. So yes, you can advise ppl to "swing arm faster!" but why? No need to stay precise with Winston when speed will do. Zarya a bit of a different case but still remains largely the same, heroes in OW have bursts of fast movement, you need the speed to keep up 1:1 as much as possible. Rein Zarya is all about stealing away what you can. If he charges his Zarya aka actually commits, he's probably fine and escapes. This is all case by case basis - -honestly, mm reins stand still on point and never make a play, this is standard BAD, useless, irrelevant ranked tank playstyle that's used to not having any teamwork = bad practice. Only "feels" like it works in ranked bc often less mistakes wins in OW, but it doesn't make you better necessarily. -F
@kenthd4156 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really good guide, well done.
@NinjaOfTheKyeboard16 жыл бұрын
I think my primary issue is the fact that I used to be a support main. The idea that I shouldn't be taking damage and I should be seen as little as possible to avoid being hit, is ingrained in my gameplay. Even when I DPS, I try to take as little damage as possible. I know that tanks are meant to soak damage, and yet there's a part of me that doesn't WANT to take damage because I'm afraid of dying and losing the team fight.
@phredbookley1836 жыл бұрын
At 11:12 he says not to chase the Mercy. I remember LowKeyNerd saying something like, "Eff this, man. Every game is chase the Mercy." I feel the same way: Gotta kill her first. I'm surprised to hear this advice of not chasing her. Legit: Sometimes my callouts are entirely "Healer at Location X" and "Healer at Location Y." (I've also had people say, "Just tell me where Mercy is.")
@saxboss16 жыл бұрын
Incredible information in this video. If I were you I would segment the game clips a bit more explicitly. Maybe a quick intro to the clip what’s happening then give the info you give. It was just a bit hard to follow the first time watching. The seamlessness is Hollywood level but for an instructional video I would appreciate more segmented info, just my 2 cents
@chancecollier70005 жыл бұрын
I sometimes use sombre to get behind a Bastion is that a good thing
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, and also an example of the principle of labour competition: someone will always do the work for less. Flood of self-help career counselors for aspiring gamers hitting the market to follow.
@tiggle54856 жыл бұрын
Don’t just charge in and die as Rein Don’t put your shield in a stupid spot as Orisa Don’t grav if zenyatta hasn’t used trans as Zarya Don’t play Winston into a bastion Don’t miss all your hooks as Hog Don’t just feed as Hammond And Don’t... actually there’s not a lot you can do wrong with Dva...
@DexterNewton326 жыл бұрын
Dont DM chip damage?
@-vessentiial-58646 жыл бұрын
Don’t feed the enemy zarya grav?
@leetheo7986 жыл бұрын
How do I save a whole overwatch game and where do I send it for feed back?
@b3ennie5726 жыл бұрын
Those Rein charges speak to me on a spiritual level...
@joshjessen77904 жыл бұрын
love these videos! Do more rein gameplay!
@matthewpegany92826 жыл бұрын
Is replay system for just owl/pros or all players?
@sgtmorfokiller72306 жыл бұрын
I'm terrible with Rein and Roadhog, so i never use them, i go Orisa or Hammond to defend, and Zarya or D.Va to attack. I want to know is there are proper ways to play with Hammond, i usually roll over the enemy team, escape inmidiately if i see i'm getting to much damage, and hunt down any enemy with less than 50% of life after piledriver, and all that seems to work.
@lavishcole6 жыл бұрын
Piledriver is his main ability and you really wanna play around that. Other than that pay real close attention to your adapt shield cooldown. It's easy to feed with hammond so if they are running sombra hog or mei you might just be better off switching
@shavedata54366 жыл бұрын
72% win percentage this season on Winston FeelsGoodMan
@not6776 жыл бұрын
I have a torb one trick account in diamond with a 77% win rate I'm going to be a top 500 torb one trick
@evanfanara84206 жыл бұрын
I'm up to 83% winrate on this new Roadhog
@jacoblaramore43466 жыл бұрын
@@not677 gl with that, most torbs at GM level have 50-60% max and that's the really good ones
@not6776 жыл бұрын
@@jacoblaramore4346 i know I excpect my win rate to drop as I go up
@jummeybear6 жыл бұрын
Can you do off tanks next, I main them and think I’m doing well but still unable to win any games at my rank
@jayadora6 жыл бұрын
Im a great tank and a great healer One phrase that makes me hurl is "git Gud" sputtered by egoticlstical elitists who make gaming bad. The most quick way to get your ass blocked from my team. The best gamers are ones confident enough to not alienate and degrade other players. Keep it positive and supportive, THAT makes a great game experience
@ormoffat6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, YourOverwatch for I am naturally garbage at tanks.
@Ryan-tm5id5 жыл бұрын
the rein at 23:53 is a bot he could have went into space since the mei wall has him blocked at the steps
@Hailiums6 жыл бұрын
I just don't have charge mapped as an ability for Reinhardt and it seems to be working.
@drmatic6 жыл бұрын
You all are worrried about climbing from silver and gold. Try and start in Bronze. It is even worse than quickplay. Almost impossible if you don´t have a group working together. Nobody wants to be tank. Nobody wants to be healer. You may get lucky if you really have a tank and a healer in a group. Offtank and offhealing? In your dreams. So I am always comdemned to play tank or healer. But then... get a extra bubble playing Reinhard? There is no extra bubble. there is no healer. Jus dps. And most of the time very bad ones. 5 dps and they can´t even make a hole in a cheese. Everybody does whatever he/she likes like in quickplay. If you have a cooperating group you automatically win all games ( up till gold I suppose). You don´t need to be a pixel-sharp shooter. Just work together. Actually impossible in lower ranks. I am praying for role queu...
@Chiharukii5 жыл бұрын
As a person stuck in bronze and repeatedly dealing with this every time I play, I support this message.
@BetaKuck6 жыл бұрын
Muma or Oge never blocked a Fusions shatter with Winston bubble while pressuring the back line.
@oneofthe12sionmains706 жыл бұрын
Your Overwatch: "Reinhardt Winston and Orisa are the most common main tanks in the game" Meanwhile, my team: "Mei is a main tank"
@naipeu4 жыл бұрын
Who are these top three players @ 5:58
@yellowbear5216 жыл бұрын
i'm not sure what's worse the forever charging rein or the forever shielding rein