2017 iMac Pro Teardown + OWC Memory Upgrade Announcement

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@koriecull
@koriecull 6 жыл бұрын
The iMac Pro is an absolute work of art inside and out. The layout of everything is perfect. Something to be admired for sure.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
This is the same design from 2013 for the most part, and that is when their bad designed Mac Pro with limited upgradeability was introduced. To me the outside looks like every other 27" imac, except the color is different. Inside is neatly laid out I agree, but it has bad design as all the other better designed 27" Imacs allow the user to use a door to access the memory, and there is no technical reason this does not have that. And that is bad design. I am guessing the profit levels on ecc memory were too much to resist for Apple and that is why they sealed this "pro" desktop machine shut. Having said that I think the surface desktop is a more innovative design, styling wise, and screen functionality wise, unfortunately Microsoft made it's base way too small to ever have this level of power, even their laptops are more powerful.
@koriecull
@koriecull 6 жыл бұрын
The 27" iMac is still magnificent to this day, beautiful design and engineering. A work of art doesn't really get old, only your own mentality. Nobody says; "Hey that Mona Lisa portrait is too old, its crap." You appreciate the art and design for years to come. Even the colourful Mac G3's are timeless classics like Andy Warhols pieces. Tech wise, there will always be different products for different people. You don't want an end-to-end encrypted, secure, unibody 5k powerhouse? Buy something else... life can be simple.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
I have a iMac 27" and had a colorful one and have been a long time OWC customer. Life is simple. i simply gave me honest truthful opinion and I think you can see it is true. Never did I say it was ugly. I said the design of the iMac Pro is no different than the design of the 2013 iMac 27", so I was surprised people were saying what a magnificent design it is, as in something new. And I pointed out the neat insides and the bad design decision to not include a memory door, since their is no thermal reason for them not too. GREED! If someone was to paint the same mona lisa today and say it is great painting, I would agree, but I would point out it has been done before exactly the same. And that take nothing away from the original, but it does take a little away from the copy if the artist knew of the original. Apple knew of the original and saved money by cloning it and taking away it's memory upgrade feature for consumers, as dcc memory is much more profitable and not having that feature gets customers to order their memory upgrade from Apple at purchase for higher than retail prices, with no credit given for the 32GB base memory you are giving up. Apple is essentially double dipping and double charging you for memory, if you upgrade through them. And that is just wrong and bad design from a consumer perspective. take care.
@JustA.Person
@JustA.Person 6 жыл бұрын
The best part of it all is how it's designed to thermal throttle the cpu so you can't get the full potential and the speakers are basically sealed inside
@n0rx0r
@n0rx0r 6 жыл бұрын
Korie Cull end to end encrypted, you are funny.
@JayJapanB
@JayJapanB 6 жыл бұрын
Way simpler than I expected for some reason. Looks good. Thanks for the teardown, guys. You did well.
@Brotherman7
@Brotherman7 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible scientific exploration in computer upgrading.
@mrwoo40
@mrwoo40 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad OWC did the tear down.. Thanks guys... And your service is great!!! The 1TB drive for my new macbook pro worked out flawlessly!!!!
@kodoyama
@kodoyama 6 жыл бұрын
So is the iMac Pro made in the USA like the old Mac Pros were?
@kathyfann
@kathyfann 3 жыл бұрын
Does this Pro Model seem worth the Price difference from the best IMac optioned out? Can you tell us is it worth it for the Higher price do we truly get a whole lot Better quality? I need one and I would absolutely appreciate your answer
@poweredbyowc
@poweredbyowc 3 жыл бұрын
The iMac Pro is sort of a weird unit, there is a lot about it that makes it more powerful than a standard iMac, the specs are significantly closer to that of a MacPro model with the processor and the type of RAM that it uses. I believe there are multiple drives RAIDed together to give you optimal speed for the unit. It's going to be a step down from a 2020 MacPro but significantly more powerful than any other Apple computer currently available.
@jhenukumar
@jhenukumar 6 жыл бұрын
First Teardown at least for me in Internet. Love your professionalism and great layout. This video is NOT for weak hearted.
@TheHy6xD
@TheHy6xD 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for video, was waiting for this
@felixdandurand2659
@felixdandurand2659 6 жыл бұрын
Nice teardown, really enjoyed the music
@WhittyPics
@WhittyPics 6 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the SSDs were soldered in so you couldn't upgrade them. So much for that idea. Got to love you guys for tearing an expensive computer down.
@AridersLifeYT
@AridersLifeYT 6 жыл бұрын
yeah not in the imac pro. !
@YouTube2021FM
@YouTube2021FM 6 жыл бұрын
They're basically not upgradeable. It's a proprietary Apple connector and they don't sell replacements directly.
@EYECRAFTVideo
@EYECRAFTVideo 6 жыл бұрын
Love the informative video - I got a question, iMac Pro - if you get the 64GB & wanted to up grade to 128, would you need just another 64GB Gb or 2x32 GB, or would you have to completely swap them out for the 128gb
@electricsnut
@electricsnut 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely lovely inside all blacked out even though most users will never see it. Pity they ditched the magnetic screen assembly but I also understand why they did it.
@pauldarrigo4395
@pauldarrigo4395 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever confirm that it can be CPU upgraded and with which CPU?
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout 6 жыл бұрын
Can you use test if we any 3rd party RAM and M.2 SSD upgrade? SSDs looks like Apple branded and may be locked
@markharris5771
@markharris5771 6 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I haven’t seen one of your videos before so I’m not in the know so to speak. In the video you take about Apple in the third person, so I’m presuming you’re not part of the Apple Organisation. What happens to the computer now? And how much did this video cost to make? It looks heck of a beast though, but I think I will be sticking with my late 2015 model with its upgraded ram and it’s all I need for editing my photographs.
@kathyfann
@kathyfann 3 жыл бұрын
Do the speakers look larger and possibly better than the IMac
@poweredbyowc
@poweredbyowc 3 жыл бұрын
While looking through the specs on EveryMac I wasn't able to see exactly what speaker was used. I do believe they're an upgrade but I didn't get any specific information on how it is.
@cactustweeter2890
@cactustweeter2890 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the option be able to send it to OWC to have them upgrade the RAM, and possibly CPU for me.
@midizengm
@midizengm 5 жыл бұрын
How is this Monitor Glass fixes on Mac? Are there neodyne magnets or just tape?
@michaelneufer2815
@michaelneufer2815 6 жыл бұрын
You aliens aren't grounded and you are working on a $6000 machine. BRILLIANT!
@Physics_Dude
@Physics_Dude 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Still on the fence between a build or the iMac Pro, so this was informative.
@RichMantaray
@RichMantaray 6 жыл бұрын
as u can clearly see its like a laptop ,,,,, ul loses 75% performance this way, its also thermal throttle cos them heats sinks are 78% to small,, u pay more for the software really than hardware ,,, whihc is silly cos in 2017 nobody pays for software lol !! so to sum up your paying for a laptop with desktop ram and storage whihc is pointless and 55% of your money for a logo
@kaysha
@kaysha 6 жыл бұрын
OWC rocks
@Killermike2178
@Killermike2178 6 жыл бұрын
According to OWC's site, there are two 128 GB memory upgrade options: 4 X 32 GB RDIMM modules for all four RAM slots and 2 X 64 GB LRDIMM modules to fill up two of the 4 RAM slots. You should really just stick with the former because a) RDIMMs are faster than LRDIMMs, b) four slots being used allows the memory to work in quad channel mode, whereas two slots left unpopulated results in the memory that is used only working in dual channel mode, which is only half as fast as quad channel, and c) OWC states that while 128 GB is the maximum amount of memory supported by the iMac Pro at this time, that they may offer a firmware patch that lifts this limit. Yeah, knowing Apple, don't hold your breath on that one. The only way Apple goes beyond that 128 GB limit on the iMac Pro is with a product refresh, not a simple firmware update. If the Coffee Lake iMacs (non-Pro) allegedly coming later this year are good enough to cannibalize upon the lower-tiered iMac Pros (8-core and 10-core), then they will need to revamp the iMac Pro lineup altogether, anyway. Perhaps a 35-inch model with 8K retina display with the option to go up to 512 GB in 4 X 128 GB of LRDIMM modules for those who want to edit a lot of 8K RED RAW footage with minimal compression?
@timon0x31
@timon0x31 6 жыл бұрын
As others have said this was a bit painful to watch and I've taken many computers apart. The build it a work of art to behold, OWC if you have them please post photos. What I'm wondering about it after you put the heatsinks back on did it still work????? The alignment of the pins is down right scary.
@mithrandir491
@mithrandir491 6 жыл бұрын
can you upgrade SSDs too?
@FixedA
@FixedA 6 жыл бұрын
You can put a glass back panel and a rgb backlight
@StepphanMcPherson
@StepphanMcPherson 6 жыл бұрын
All the best for 2018,keep up the awesome work .
@RizLazey
@RizLazey 6 жыл бұрын
Another plus side for apple +upgradeable iMac pros
@schirombaseball95
@schirombaseball95 6 жыл бұрын
JEEZ, 2 SSDs, WOW, even though for up to 4 TB just like you did the one for the 2013 Mac Pro SSD. Would that be considering making a 8 TB (4 TB x 2) or more? 32 GB RAM Standard, do you guys also have to get it up to 128 GB or Higher, like the 2013 Mac Pro? And is the memory actually the same size of the memory insert of the Mac Pro?
@subashbaniya6801
@subashbaniya6801 6 жыл бұрын
Wow you guys are awesome for this job
@TheSteveSteele
@TheSteveSteele 6 жыл бұрын
Mike. Thank you for confirming my question about the dual SSDs. I figured Apple was going to ship them in a RAID. A follow up question if you don’t mind. Are they using their AppleRAID software RAID driver for this (like Disk Utility and Terminal use), or is there a hardware RAID controller built in? This gets interesting with APFS and its possible RAID benefits. It’s also interesting to have the option to have two drives (a boot drive and a file drive) or to keep the fast RAID 0 volume as is. Also, I know it’s very early for this but can you speculate if this architecture will support double the amount of memory (256GBs of RAM), like many previous Apple models do with larger OWC memory kits? All of my 4,1/5,1 Mac Pros are loaded with the 16GB based, 128GB kits. Thank you again! Steve Steele
@askhowiknow5527
@askhowiknow5527 6 жыл бұрын
Finally a 5K price tag to match that 5K display!
@Azmodaeus49
@Azmodaeus49 6 жыл бұрын
That was beautifully done
@Mustela001
@Mustela001 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks / Beautiful Machine / I hope 32 inches comes out.
@Gwentron
@Gwentron 6 жыл бұрын
Needs better Lighting. Great video, thanks!
@zonyyu8412
@zonyyu8412 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit the T2 chip is massive. Do you think that is the rumoured A10 fusion coprocessor?
@jamesaketch1096
@jamesaketch1096 6 жыл бұрын
Zony Yu no that is under the ssds
@sunnydhaliwal9012
@sunnydhaliwal9012 6 жыл бұрын
wha its broken already?
@danielborges.
@danielborges. 6 жыл бұрын
Easy Peasy. Thanx for sharing.
@mediavormgever
@mediavormgever 6 жыл бұрын
you're lucky you didnt destroy the cpu socket pins while the springloaded heatsink popped off.
@reddyuda
@reddyuda 6 жыл бұрын
Really puny heatsink, I wonder if it throttles constantly under extended load
@JayJapanB
@JayJapanB 6 жыл бұрын
Early reports say, not really. It goes 3.2ghz when maxing cpu and gpu and between 3.6 and 3.9ghz(back and forth) with cpu only. 3.2 is still above base but not its highest boost. Kinda up to you whether you want to call it boost or throttle. Glass half empty or half full. Over it seems to handle itself pretty well though.
@NokiaSiemensNet
@NokiaSiemensNet 6 жыл бұрын
If both drives are in RAID configuration, I wonder if Bootcamp will be able to read that correctly.
@themacintoshnerd
@themacintoshnerd 6 жыл бұрын
NokiaSiemensNet it should work I use a raid0 in my cheese grater Mac pro and boot camp likes it but this is apple and I don't have a imac pro and my raid is custom but I'm sure apples got in working well?
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 6 жыл бұрын
The T2 houses the controller, there's only one. I think calling it RAID was a bit of a flub, it's just two NAND banks with one controller, and the controller is all that talks to the OS, Windows won't have an issue.
@NokiaSiemensNet
@NokiaSiemensNet 6 жыл бұрын
So the data is stripped or not ? because I wonder what will happen if one of both SSD fails.
@themacintoshnerd
@themacintoshnerd 6 жыл бұрын
NokiaSiemensNet my guess would be that you would lose all of you data but not sure
@supportyou10
@supportyou10 6 жыл бұрын
So you can upgrade the ram on the iMac pro 😁
@Techphase
@Techphase 6 жыл бұрын
so everything is upgradable except for the GPU. seems fair enough, cuz gpu is literally soldered to the mobo. and what did i see 2666mhz ram.
@AridersLifeYT
@AridersLifeYT 6 жыл бұрын
Great work OWC!
@tiberiud1955
@tiberiud1955 6 жыл бұрын
I love my hackintosh !
@AlexanderKrebs
@AlexanderKrebs 6 жыл бұрын
Are you using ESD precautions?
@AlexanderKrebs
@AlexanderKrebs 6 жыл бұрын
MacSales. com Hi I’m just curios because I didn’t see any wrist straps (ok there are solutions for the ankle). And as Certified Mac Technician I know these things are essential when working on electronics. But also the mat is not connected so this setup is very basic …
@larsjrgensen5975
@larsjrgensen5975 6 жыл бұрын
What a small heatsink for 200-400 watts of heat
@emadahmedali305
@emadahmedali305 Жыл бұрын
Help Please!! I have an imac pro and repair centres told me that the logic board is dead and needs to be replaced, but buying another used imac pro cheaper than replacing the logic board. So here is the question I want to replace the ssd on the used good working imac pro with my ssd, so is it possible to do that without loosing data? Thanks if anyone can help me with that 🙏🙏🙏👍👍✊✊
@poweredbyowc
@poweredbyowc Жыл бұрын
Hey Emad, This is a great question, but we hate to be the bearer of bad news but this would not be possible at all. I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions, comments, or concerns. eshop.macsales.com/Service/
@emad2363
@emad2363 Жыл бұрын
@@poweredbyowc thanks for reply I already bought another used imac pro with same specs as my dead one If you replace my ssd from the old one to this one i just bought, do I loose the data on the ssd from my dead one? Thank you
@Bobyfototube
@Bobyfototube 6 жыл бұрын
This look awesome , I guess it won't take long for the Imac Pro to be totally upgradable ?
@RichMantaray
@RichMantaray 6 жыл бұрын
no it doesnt lol , slow speeds though pci lanes ,, ued be better off with a gaming laptop
@ElectrofizzStudiosCo
@ElectrofizzStudiosCo 6 жыл бұрын
> Slow > PCIe Choose one
@kartaloktay
@kartaloktay 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha sure
@augustbiernbaum4841
@augustbiernbaum4841 6 жыл бұрын
Bobyfototube nah dude it’s the Apple way
@animarkzero
@animarkzero 6 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? This "fine" Apple Product is glued together !! As for upgrading this means Apple is giving Prosumers the 🖕 !
@Xelamus
@Xelamus 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! But a little bit dark here
@FieldOVision
@FieldOVision 6 жыл бұрын
If you take compatible memory to an Apple Store can't they put it in for you? 32 to 64 or 64 to 128
@tonyhou4534
@tonyhou4534 6 жыл бұрын
They can, it is serviceable by Apple or Apple authorized personnel.
@samgeurdi6351
@samgeurdi6351 6 жыл бұрын
The memory doesn’t have a bottom latch for easy access like before but it is easy to place the memory card as it’s not soldered. Problem is you need to open up the display first. I think they have restrictions against third party parts. And installing them. Your warranty might not cover it. If apple services it you get 6 months or a year extra on it but only with their parts. Which is more expensive.
@terenceriley1375
@terenceriley1375 6 жыл бұрын
Apple wants you to figure out your RAM needs at the time of order. Apple will not put 3rd party parts no matter how compatible they may be, into any Apple product. It’s their way or the highway. That’s why a 27” iMac with a i7 Quad core 4.2 MHz with 8GB from Apple is the preferred model to get. You then order OWC 64GB @$649.00 compared to Apple at $1,900.00 on the configuration page. Approximately give or take a buck or two.
@FieldOVision
@FieldOVision 6 жыл бұрын
unless you want better performance/more cores/ etc... seems like you may be able to have apple do it, or just do it yourself when you pick up a kit as a last resort , no sense in buying a maxed out previous gen, buying system for more than the ram lol
@Neo300002
@Neo300002 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. More light would be better.
@pkerry12
@pkerry12 6 жыл бұрын
so you can upgraded the EEC ram and the SSD's!! YAY!!! that means you can upgrade the thing :) it uses standard workstation components no Soloed components :)
@pietro8483
@pietro8483 6 жыл бұрын
SSD? M.2 2242? Right?
@Karpple
@Karpple 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@audio01
@audio01 6 жыл бұрын
Please, the next time use more lighting!
@zuur303
@zuur303 6 жыл бұрын
When (if?) Apple upgrades the Mac mini, I sure hope they too use regular ram slots and m2 ssd drives in there. The fact they use both in this machine gives some hope. Fully prepared to be disappointed though.
@GUIGU32
@GUIGU32 6 жыл бұрын
That hurts...!!
@TasteofTaboo
@TasteofTaboo 6 жыл бұрын
wow is this heatsink small for cooling 500W away ... compare this to a 250w gpu heatsink and it seams apple has outwitted physics
@tomaskusnir2374
@tomaskusnir2374 6 жыл бұрын
the amount of paste also seemed ludicrous
@TB-zm3zc
@TB-zm3zc 6 жыл бұрын
500W? A LP Xeon-W chip and Vega Pro (this is NOT rx vega) combined don't pull anywhere near that
@GeckoClever
@GeckoClever 6 жыл бұрын
It is 500W, Apple underclocked the CPU and GPU to maintain stable temperatures.
@TasteofTaboo
@TasteofTaboo 6 жыл бұрын
the vega 64 not downclocked sucks between 285W and 385W on load the cpu has a 140W tdp but with avx or other workload it is much above this. and this cooling solution is even small for 200W unless you give a shit and let the chips fry above 90° (shiity cheap ugly pcs try to stay below 70° better around 60 or less)
@arijit276
@arijit276 6 жыл бұрын
Martin Peterdamm Thats what I have been saying. I think the cpu or gpu is undervolted and down clocked. The vega has a tdp of 400watt alone. I think with prolonged use the gpu cpu will both thermal throttle.
@pkerry12
@pkerry12 6 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to see that we can upgrade the ram and the storage :) thats what I wanted to hear :D
@FRANKRICECOLD209
@FRANKRICECOLD209 6 жыл бұрын
Awsome Guys
@katlehokomeke
@katlehokomeke 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome ☺
@ralphmiranda2077
@ralphmiranda2077 6 жыл бұрын
I'm betting an actual, new MacPro won't see light of day until next Summer at least.
@Physics_Dude
@Physics_Dude 6 жыл бұрын
Some are saying 2019
@matt2m
@matt2m 5 жыл бұрын
Almost smashed the pins on the cpu socket man. It’s not you Apple was not hurting for space it could have been a normal socket.
@zzmadd
@zzmadd 6 жыл бұрын
no audio here...
@kingraiderr
@kingraiderr 6 жыл бұрын
1 tb just 1 tb ?
@pkerry12
@pkerry12 6 жыл бұрын
this is the Mac Pro 2013 al over again lol you can upgrade all the components except for the videos cards :)
@fenderbender3982
@fenderbender3982 6 жыл бұрын
Who in their right mind would consider this PRO level upgrade able, A pro level computer would have access doors for ram and drives just like all computers did a couple years ago, Pro level iMac shops would not give a damn about a couple extra inches on the backside for accessible ports, AAfter 30+ years as an apple ownerIve just about had it with their move to non serviceable computers.
@GTI8855
@GTI8855 6 жыл бұрын
I can't see no reasonable explanation why Apple couldn't make a removable back panel with screws for easy access to PC's internals (at least, to RAM only) Make the iMac thicker by 5mm, but make it easy to upgrade!
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
what connector is used for the ssds
@121LIAR121
@121LIAR121 6 жыл бұрын
Tigerex966 it’s apples own proprietary connector. you can’t swap out the ssds easily in this for aftermarket ones unfortunately
@chris-ok2hn
@chris-ok2hn 6 жыл бұрын
swearatmegordon N its a shorter version of m2. Its totally standard
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
no way
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
if its a different version than how is it totally standard
@chris-ok2hn
@chris-ok2hn 6 жыл бұрын
Tigerex966 look at the connectors and the screw, its m.2
@procekim
@procekim 6 жыл бұрын
i'm spoiled with ifixit videos. This is painful to watch.
@GunDoDaTalkin
@GunDoDaTalkin 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they know their stuff and are stellar techs but these videos are definitely not iFixit, lol.
@kingraiderr
@kingraiderr 6 жыл бұрын
Painful? I thought the disassembly went smooth .
@MrFloris
@MrFloris 6 жыл бұрын
These dudes are better people :) Love MSales
@JamesDea45
@JamesDea45 6 жыл бұрын
I could never trust my self no matter how professionally trained I am 😂
@akinoz
@akinoz 6 жыл бұрын
I should watch iFixit teardown..
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
All of Apple scientists and engineers, and they could not figure out how to put a memory upgrade door on a $5000 and up pro machine? or screw in a light bulb, when even the lowest end imac i5 27" has one?
@Sean-ll5cm
@Sean-ll5cm 6 жыл бұрын
This is an "Apple" computer.. why on Earth would they want to allow users to upgrade memory when it's used as a profit margin widening tool
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
because this has been a trademark feature of ALL "27" imacs, and ALL "PRO" :) Apple desktops. Has it not? This is actually a change from Apple policy, and it's not to make it thinner or lighter or for more battery life like on the laptops and mini's. I am guessing, since this uses much more profitable ecc memory, Apple decided no way would that let the profit potential go away, as they charge more than retail for build to order memory upgrades, and do not give you credit for the base amount you are deleting, thereby they are double dipping as usual on all of their cpu, memory, storage upgrades. As they know pros would buy just enough memory, storage, GPU, that they believe they need and add than more later if needed. That would of course keeps Apple out of the profit on those upgrades, and under Tim Cook's Leadership, Apple has decided that anything that connects to it's Macs, ipads, iphones, must in someway generate them a profit, hardware or software, through the use of licensing, lightning, dongles, certification, app stores, frequent almost forced os upgrades that slow down and obsoletes older apple devices. And newer machines not capable of running older OS's. Apple indeed does this like an art and here is why...... www.macrumors.com/2017/12/27/apple-ceo-tim-cook-102-million/ Insane Greed Pure and simple!
@Sean-ll5cm
@Sean-ll5cm 6 жыл бұрын
all I know is that under tim cook, apple has taken greed to a whole new level
@macdaddybill
@macdaddybill 6 жыл бұрын
They know they could do that, but they just want those stupid clean lines not even the hint of a door to upgrade ram or HD. I'm a 25 year Mac user and the past 10+ years it is all about them making money. They haven't been that cool computer company since the early 00's.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like there could be a market for a custom made back with a removable door by either cutting the existing back and reinforcing it to keep the thermal integrity, or producing a lazer measure replica with a removable door. Of course there goes your warranty, but there could still a possible market for it for 1 year old machines out of warranty. I would consider it, if they could insure it would improve cooling or at least keep it the same, for say $200 in space gray, black or carbon fiber ($300). than you have instant access to your two drive and memory, and possibly even the CPU. For a pro machine you can upgrade. Imagine that :)
@ARTiculateStudio1
@ARTiculateStudio1 6 жыл бұрын
while im struggling to get a better pc and trying to keep working on my weak i3 hp old laptop these guys are tearing down a new came out imac pro
@alexsmith9245
@alexsmith9245 6 жыл бұрын
when apple says its not upgradable, guess someone proved them wrong
@magdi-00
@magdi-00 6 жыл бұрын
Good teardown but very bad lighting and shooting angles (for some part of the video) ...
@MrTriumphST
@MrTriumphST 6 жыл бұрын
Adobe Premiere what a shame, just use FCP X 10.4!!
@FelMaBo
@FelMaBo 6 жыл бұрын
Good video but to dark
@danieldavis3294
@danieldavis3294 6 жыл бұрын
A pro machine with 2 SSD's in a striped array... WTF Apple!!??
@GStupnitsky
@GStupnitsky 6 жыл бұрын
It is SSD Fusion drive? )
@stefanmodigh7897
@stefanmodigh7897 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to upgrade yourself. If I would buy this I would make sure it had all the best specs.
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 6 жыл бұрын
Since there's one controller on the T2 that's just handling two physically separate banks of NAND, I don't think it makes sense to call this a RAID. That would be a T2/controller on each NAND bank. This is just one controller looking in two places and unifying the NAND away from the OS, as it would for multiple chips, just more physically seperated now.
@AndysVideoLog
@AndysVideoLog 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused by your comment. One T2 chip can easily handle enough to RAID three or more drives together. RAID is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. So this would, 100%, be considered a RAID. Whatever the case may be, I'm just happy that the CPU, and RAM are not soldered in.
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 6 жыл бұрын
This would depend on if the data is stripped, right? We don't see much performance improvement over Apples normal 3GB/s SSD controller, except a bit faster writes, so it seems more like it's a simple spillover mechanism rather than striped RAID. In any other RAID, each drive has its own controller, in this there's two banks of NAND without controllers, and one controller in the T2. Just seems more like a split SSD rather than RAID to me.
@AndysVideoLog
@AndysVideoLog 6 жыл бұрын
This was a interesting topic so I ended up brushing up on my raid setting and configurations. From everything I have read on the iMac pro, the two drives are striped. I had to read up on RAID again because I have never herd of each drive having its own RAID Controller before. I've setup RAID several times on my machines, both hardware and software Raid 0 & 1. All of the setups I have seen and done require 1 Raid Controller. Lets assume this computer is a standard pc, there are two SSDs connected to two different PCI-E ports. Then RAID configured through BIOS. Wouldn't this be the same idea?
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 6 жыл бұрын
I have not said each drive would have its own RAID controller, I think that's where our miscommunication is. In a standard RAID, there would be one RAID controller, and each hard drive or SSD would have its own /drive/ controller. Because a drive by itself has a controller, not a RAID controller. In this setup, there are two banks of NAND without drive controllers, because the T2 chip consumed the SSD controller that used to be in each Apple SSD. It's like, say, one GPU driving two monitors, you would not say that's two GPUs, rather than RAID which would be like an SLI setup of GPUs. Each drive in your old RAIDs has a DRIVE controller, while the whole setup has one RAID controller.
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 6 жыл бұрын
The ifixit teardown also went a step further to illustrate my point, see how there's no SSD controller on each of the two NAND blades under there. Two dumb NAND sticks, one SSD controller. www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Pro+Teardown/101807?.com&
@patrikforsman5421
@patrikforsman5421 6 жыл бұрын
What is that Apple T2 chip seen on the motherboard?
@jamesaketch1096
@jamesaketch1096 6 жыл бұрын
Patrik Forsman used for secure data storage
@VanJo
@VanJo 6 жыл бұрын
Video is too dark... you could use some better lighting
@sidhammer9461
@sidhammer9461 6 жыл бұрын
One more light, a bounce card, or even just relocating the light could make a lot of difference. In much of the teardown your key light (brightest) came from behind the guy with the screwdriver... Which created shadows over the subject matter you're trying to show. For something like a teardown, top lighting would help a lot, but so would a bounce card or light coming in at 45º from the camera and the plane of the table (diagonally). This would illuminate but also give shadow definition on the subject (motherboard). The closer your light gets to 90º from the angle of the camera and the lower angle the closest the light gets to parallel to the plane of the subject, or the table in this case, the more definition you'll get on the components since you'll create longer/deeper shadows for any components that are dimensional-this can be overdone, but you should play around with 2 or 3 light setups and some bounce cards to fill dark spots.
@arthuroek1
@arthuroek1 6 жыл бұрын
$116,000 mx 😲 mejor me compro otro carro 🚙
@archelonprime
@archelonprime 6 жыл бұрын
Although the design is impressive, I'm still not a fan of all in one type PCs.
@halvardlundnorway
@halvardlundnorway 6 жыл бұрын
c") Noooooo. You didn't...
@GTI8855
@GTI8855 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder, how much would you have to pay for a new motherboard if the original one dies? $399? $699?
@Pitsch
@Pitsch 3 жыл бұрын
Ordered one of those 128GB kits for my iMac Pro. Had an Apple certified guy to had them installed. Almost ruined my computer. My workstation, on which I depend to make my living. One, or more ram cards were defective and had to return them. A quick search shows a lot of people with the same problem. OWC doesn’t seem to care. I spent almost 140usd to install the ram kit, just to have them removed the next day in order to save my computer. I got a refund on the kit. Lost the installation money. If you read this, be aware. This is not a good product. OWC is being irresponsible with their claims and marketing, selling an awful and dangerous product, as a pro kit. Avoid at any cost
@powerzx
@powerzx 6 жыл бұрын
Repairing or upgrading this computer would be a pain in the ass. I worked many years with PC desktops repairs and I wouldn't like to play with that kind of BS (glued screen, springs at heat sinks, short ribbons, delicate hinges for ribbons). There are too many things that can go wrong, so from my point of view this computer is not upgradable at all (it would cost too much).
@ErnestoSanabriaGonzalez
@ErnestoSanabriaGonzalez 6 жыл бұрын
ya desmontado como puede aumenta (+) postivo puede arregla y cambia (-) negativo no puede arregla ni cambia solo fijo soldadura placa +SSD doble PCI mSata 512Gb x 2 total es 1TB 👍🏼 +Ram 👍🏼 +CPU Xeon 👍🏼 +dos ventilador 👍🏼 +dos altavoces 👍🏼 -grafico ????? 👎🏿
@王仁宏-b3j
@王仁宏-b3j 6 жыл бұрын
like and shared Facebook 台灣Taiwan
@edreimatunog3075
@edreimatunog3075 6 жыл бұрын
do you even know lighting?
@noneofyourbuisness7
@noneofyourbuisness7 6 жыл бұрын
the lighting may not be perfect but i can still clearly see whats going on. Just enjoy the video sheesh
@matheussox
@matheussox 6 жыл бұрын
Where’s the upgrade??? You guys just open and disassembled it!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Weissman111
@Weissman111 6 жыл бұрын
Clearly my definition of the word "upgradable" is different to Apple's.
@mrunimog1582
@mrunimog1582 6 жыл бұрын
When did Apple ever mention anything about the iMac Pro being "upgradable"? Perhaps you're confusing the iMac Pro with the upcoming Mac Pro, actually touted modular and upgradeable by Apple.
@Weissman111
@Weissman111 6 жыл бұрын
That's was my point - it isn't - you're stuck with what you buy with little hope of changing out parts as they become obsolete or inadequate.
@mrunimog1582
@mrunimog1582 6 жыл бұрын
Well as I said the iMac Pro was never supposed to be upgradeable. Other than the upcoming Mac Pro, which we haven't seen yet. So based on what do you conclude your definition of the word "upgradable" being different to Apple's?
@emersonfnogueira
@emersonfnogueira 6 жыл бұрын
Lindo
@tonyhou4534
@tonyhou4534 6 жыл бұрын
It is surprisingly upgradable, so much for all those "it will be soldered piece of shite" people lol🤣🤣
@Sean-ll5cm
@Sean-ll5cm 6 жыл бұрын
problem is, if you upgrade it BAM your warranty is gone!
@jasonswift7098
@jasonswift7098 6 жыл бұрын
Video is so false!1 the new Mac pro is COMPLETE SEALED and NOT be upgraded!!
@00700556
@00700556 6 жыл бұрын
Expect GPU failures in the future with all that thermal paste compound 🤦🏽‍♂️. They do this on all their products
@Rhamnusia
@Rhamnusia 6 жыл бұрын
its pretty common the amount of thermal paste, check a gpu tear down
@theone132435
@theone132435 6 жыл бұрын
This is nothing unnormal, don’t know what’s so wrong about it :P
@JayJapanB
@JayJapanB 6 жыл бұрын
Better too much than not enough on a gpu. No HSF, broski.
@00700556
@00700556 6 жыл бұрын
From my knowledge, too much thermal paste like the one in the video cause it to be a insulator of heat which is the total opposite of what it’s supposed to do. I work on Apple computers all day and you won’t believe how many GPU failures on MacBooks and iMacs we see because if this.
@PelicanIslandLabs
@PelicanIslandLabs 6 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about.
@intrumpwetrust1448
@intrumpwetrust1448 6 жыл бұрын
doesn't worth the money at all
@irfanspace
@irfanspace 6 жыл бұрын
Your Studio lighting _ totally sucks
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