Gotway Monster REVIEW- Why this is the FUTURE of EUC _Hsiang

[@OWGAC]

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[@cliffordhallam3270]

I’m 68 and the likelihood of me ever getting on one of these is microscopic. However, I’ve got to say they fit into the urban transport environment beautifully. You’re a fantastic ambassador for this mode of transport and I really look forward to your videos. Thanks

[@OWGAC]

Thank you! but you do know that there are quite a few members on the EUC forum whom are even older and still riding! I remember reading a post from some one whom got in by buying 3 EUCs and when people ask him why he was so willing to put so much money in, he responded by saying that he's 80 and don't have much time left so just want to try every wheel available to get to the one that works for him asap!!

[@mangu768]

Wow! Hsiang you predicted the Veteran Sherman 11:07.

[@chrisjames5254]

Absolutley one of my favorite channels. Hsiang you have one of the most interesting cadences of anyone out there.Videos are awsome but makes me wonder who are you and whats your backround in life.

[@OWGAC]

Thank you! I really appreciate the positive feedback, my background actually have nothing to do with this video stuff, but I have been a huge video photo nerds for years though.

[@davidevans5782]

I have the Monster V2 100v 1845wh as well as the MSP and my latest one the Sherman Hsiang, I think you gave Veteran the idea of the roll bars, check your video at 11:14, you mention it, another good review mate 👍

[@OWGAC]

Thank you but it doesn’t take that huge of a leap of imagination to add roll bars to the EUC shell design; now if only if the other manufacturer can take a hint and do the same.

[@davidevans5782]

@@OWGAC my sentiments exactly, would be great if all manufacturers added some sort of protection to their wheels, its a lot of money to get destroyed after one bad fall, expensive to put right.

[@judgesfiveeight]

I appreciate how pragmatic and empirical your reviews are... you're never afraid to call it like it is. Don't lose that. For me, the Monster has just too narrow a "performance band" for me to justify the substantial investment. Also... something not directly mentioned... for all the safety gained on city streets that is afforded by the increased stability... there is also safety/stability lost in more pedestrian heavy environments due to the lack of mobility/torque. As always, it comes down to where you ride and what performance characteristics you enjoy/value most.

[@zekerandolph1397]

Robert Lynch The reduction in stall torque compared to an MSX is 17%. That’s too much of a penalty for you?

[@judgesfiveeight]

​@@zekerandolph1397 Absolutely. It's less about a raw motor torque measurement, than it is about the ration of torque to wheel diameter or torque to wheel weight. As I stated... it's about handling characteristics... particularly at low speeds when negotiating your way around pedestrian congestion. A smaller diameter, lighter, "quicker" wheel is empirically safer for all involved under such circumstances.

[@zekerandolph1397]

Robert Lynch Oops I wasn’t being precise in my statement. If they’re using the same motor, the stall _torque_ is the same, but the resulting _stall force_ is 17% lower. TL;DR: The stall torque is of course important, but you shouldn’t be complaining about it. The sluggish handling is mainly because it’s heavy AF. If you’re not reaching the stall torque, then you shouldn’t say you care about the wheel’s torque. It will handle more sluggishly, but that’s because it’s heavier. Namely, it’s the ratio of _rider weight_ to _wheel weight_ that matters for handling. A heavier rider on a lighter wheel will make the wheel more responsive (as long as he’s not hitting torque limit, but you’d have to be pretty heavy and accelerating pretty hard to do that on this motor). And a wheel that weighs half as much as you do... you just can’t push it around as quickly. Heavier wheels also are harder to steer, because the counter-rotating mass-your torso-is lighter in relation. As a result, for a given desired steering input, you need to rotate your torso more. Because there’s a physical limit to how much you can rotate your torso, this means you can’t command as large of a steering input. This is the main thing that makes it difficult to negotiate pedestrians. The wheel diameter also matters, because it increases the contact patch... which is great at high speed, but makes it yet further difficult to steer at low speed.

[@alessandroz75z]

Hi on my monster I solved the problem I adapted a trolley handle that of the Imotion which in my opinion is also the most robust, versatile and with a good line. I simply attached it by means of brackets to the upper bar. I tell you that I feel very comfortable, it hasn't ruined the style at all and it is very comfortable in all situations. You know every now and then, if one wants to take a walk in the park, or to enter any shop is the best !! The only thing I had to give up is the saddle, but when I'm tired, I go down and take a walk.

[@OWGAC]

I think I saw the mod you made and it looks pretty good, l ordered a custom shell protector and will see how that looks before I start making some mods

[@macswanton9622]

Not everyone is built for the EUC, especially that one. I am envious. I have fallen from every ride I ever owned, and gotten up, brushed off the gravel, and got back on. Here, I can see needing an EMT.

[@OWGAC]

the getting back up part is what counts, Ride on!!

[@russkyDOLOMYTE]

another superb video, entertaining as hell with excellent editing. You rock Hsiang!!

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!!

[@IAmSamThatIAM]

I love the range, and speed on it. I want to get one for night time riding going into scary places at night like streets that run for miles that have no light, or tails that goes deep into the woods where I can outrun werewolves.

[@juanjoportable]

Great video. As a Monster owner, I completely agree, it can't be compared to any other electric unicycle. I had the V2 100v 1845wh before, I sold it to get the v3 100V 3108wh! Unfortunately, having some issues with small battery life, half than the expected, less than the 1845wh, so let's see if I get that sorted soon.

[@markricharddavies]

Very curious how this works out with your v3, I own the v2 100volt. Keep us posted

[@OWGAC]

Was this purchase through Looma? Yes I'd like to know how it turned out as well. Any problem with battery is sketchy!

[@markricharddavies]

Hsiang no , I’ve owned it for sometime, bought it new.. I’m riding it lately more on my morning nyc commute

[@juanjoportable]

@@OWGAC from someone else, but made by same people that do the one Loomo sells. I measured the electricity used with a energy meter plug, 25% to 100% took only 1150wh electricity, it seems like only half of the battery works, 1554Wh. I think it may be some bad connection somewhere, as the voltage still shows 100v when measuring from the connector. They advise not to disconned any battery, due to the way the custom pack is made. One pack is split into the two sides. Still trying to find a solution with the seller (them checking with the factory). Not much luck so far (being told all is fine and that I didn't check properly, calculations are wrong...), not because of the seller, but the factory who made it.

[@OWGAC]

@@juanjoportable I am sorry to hear that, I hope things work out in the end. the few riders here whom purchases through Aliexpress shop all use Paypal and lean on that as a back up for resolution.

[@DellSchanze]

Oscillation?! I rode my MSX 100v over 31 miles all around Hawaii down around Pearl Harbor and had a blast but TWICE while accelerating I hit some rough pavement at about 35mph ish and got a really funky forwards backward oscillation. I put 2300 kilometers on my last one and never experienced that but I also don't think I ever hit rough roads at that speed before. It of course was very very freaky but both times I managed to stay on and bring it back down in speed and get it back under control. Perhaps I was too relaxed in my stance as stiffening up my stance I think might stop the issue but even still that's pretty crazy. Is this the oscillation you were talking about? Anyone else experience this? I did find the ultimate riding gear though which is the Dainese Racing 3 jacket and their Pony pants which are like full racing leather pants but without the knee pucks as we don't need them for EUC yet. This setup was only $700 At Orange County Dainese and I only found this setup after trying many others. Full motorcycle racing leathers like that will definitely work to save people's bacon if they ever do wipe out at those speeds and it was surprisingly affordable. Last time I bought a set of racing leathers it was $1800 not $700. Plus with the jacket that zips to the pants it's much easier to get into compared to a one piece suit. Looks super cool ripping around through traffic as well. Rock on EUC people's! Oh I do also still have some of the 1860Wh MSX 100v in stock both new & used. It's a whole new world with this 50% bigger battery than the standard unit. Call me at 800-707-2525. Or I have a deal on a only slightly used practically new 16X for just $1600.

[@577buttfan]

How did I know Id find you here Dell haha!!! Peace bro

[@OWGAC]

My is slightly worst and don't necessarily take a bump to initiate, but the same back and forth vibration, I am still not sure if it's just because or me riding with lower wheel psi, but I have since up the pressure and will see if the issues persist for me also

[@DellSchanze]

@@OWGAC Hmm interesting let me know if that makes a difference. I'm running pretty low pressure as well.

[@DellSchanze]

@@577buttfan I'm everywhere. :)

[@Ylte]

This is a really wonderfully balanced review! Thank you, Hsiang! I would love to have a wheel the size of a Monster for my off-road trails, but, as you also say, at the moment I don’t think it has enough power. My dream is a 22-inch wheel that has the engineering of Ninebot, Kingsong charge ports and trolley handle, the overall quality feel of Inmotion, and perhaps a tiny sprinkle of Gotway madness:)

[@OWGAC]

Add the Kingsong Axle tightening system to that list! I am with you on that dream wheel!

[@wanderingwade8877]

I'll never purchase or even ride anything like this, but it was cool to watch you tour through N.Y. while you talked. I've never seen these things on the street, ever.

[@OWGAC]

Thank you! I really want to convey the experience of riding here in NYC, and yes it is still a super rare hobby, it's actually very rare for there to be a group of riders like we do here.

[@vadimkorotaev6161]

Hi, anyone knows where can be front bumper for monster v3 available ? pls advise

[@AfeezKayeRIDES]

Good video.. really enjoyable. I have been thinking of the Gotway Monster lately

[@OWGAC]

Soooo Tishawn have some big secret news about a faster wheel, but he wouldn't tell us!! Have you heard anything yet??

[@AfeezKayeRIDES]

Hsiang me no know naaaathhing 😉

[@GiffysChannel]

Fantastic video, you covered every aspect of the wheel and then some. This reminded me why I subbed in the first place. I love your videos because you are a visionary, you see things others don't and I appreciate you sharing it with us. PS, I think I'm starting to see your vision for where this technology can go and I like it! If only you could get that vision into an artist's head so we could have some concept art. :D

[@OWGAC]

Thank you! It'll get more and more interesting as more people get in on the PEV lifestyle!

[@Chobaca]

How much did you spend on all the protective gear?

[@OWGAC]

most of my gear were left over from either motorcycle, rollerblading or snowboarding. a full set of gear (helmet, armoured jacket, wrist guard and knee guard) will probably cost you between $400 to about $1k.

[@Chobaca]

@@OWGAC thanks ❤️

[@slomnim]

@@Chobaca just so you know, it can be as cheap as 200-300$ (or less!) if you do your research~ scooter jackets are lighter weight but come with the shoulder/elbow padding. Decent pads for elbows and knees that some EUC riders use can be as cheap as $40-60 in total without sacrificing saftey. Wrist guards as well! And obviously, a helmet. Most go with a full face when they're going past 18-20 mph, but for most circumstances a cheapo bike / skate helmet does the trick~

[@a.d.h.dn3d461]

1 to 10, 10 being best, how would you rate this tire as an all terrain tire? And if you could get this tire in the MSP size, would you replace stock MSP tire with monster tire??

[@OWGAC]

I love it, I give the monster tire a 9. And for the most part ppl who ride a monster rarely change their tire for the same reason. But I am not sure how a smaller version would fare on an MSP though.

[@a.d.h.dn3d461]

Ok thanks. I'm going to try the shinko 244 on my MSP, time will tell if that's a good choice.... Thanks for all your videos!

[@jfpsubwoofer8988]

I'm thinking in buying a new unicycle I'm looking between the gotway monster and the king song s 18 which would you recommend. I'm looking for range control and off road power

[@OWGAC]

Monster is great for range, and handle bad terrain BUT it has poor torque and will have trouble with steep hill climb. It is very stable at speed and one of the most comfortable wheel you can ride for longer distances. As to the S18, we still don’t know since it hasn’t been released yet. The range will likely be significantly less due to the smaller battery packs, but torque will be better, its probably going to be a more well rounded wheel for general purpose riding.

[@jfpsubwoofer8988]

@@OWGAC thanks for the information it's very helpful.

[@bushmaster4481]

Bigger motor to fit circumference of wheel to rim and I consider

[@OWGAC]

Remember the body is plastic, with a larger motor, you'll also need to upgrade the foundamental architecture of the wheel, it'll be a whole different wheel but I want it too!!

[@jonduvilla2752]

Love all your videos. I have a onewheel but I want more range and speed I'm looking to get my first electric unicycle I think I'm going with the gotway monster I noticed there's different models of the monster which one do you prefer?

[@OWGAC]

Keep in mind the learning curve is steep with an euc and your experience from OW is not going to translate. It is possible to have the monster as a first wheel but know that it'll take you longer to learn how to ride. Oh and get the 100v and the largest battery capacity you can afford. Always good to have headroom even if you don't need to do 45mph

[@jonduvilla2752]

@@OWGAC thanks for the advice. what's a good website I can order one with the bigger battery?

[@bruno3833]

Would you say it's more suited for taller people like 195cm? Or are taller ppl better of with bigger wheel eucs? Is monster good for off road? It better deals with bumps but is it good for climbing? Compare to map or msx?

[@tangtang7051]

I know I commented that I wanted the same thing you have. A 100v with the biggest battery I ask Jason at Ewheels and he said I couldn't get it like yours. He only have the 100v with the 1850, and the 84v with the 2400. I don't understand why I can't get it like yours from him. where did you get yours now?

[@bleeder228]

He got it through Aliexpress.

[@OnAirPromo]

Great video - I have a suggestion for the stairs... Get a wide adjustable strap you can loop around the handle and then around your neck or opposite shoulder. That way when you carry it up the stairs you can split the weight between your back and your arm. Cheers!

[@OWGAC]

Someone told me they push it up the stairs and let the wheel do the climbing! I'll have to try it some time. oh and you'll need some crazy strong strap since man this wheel is heavy!

[@OnAirPromo]

@@OWGAC I think any backpack type strap would do - probably available at any camping store. Shoot, even a leather belt.

[@UStride]

Fantastic video

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!! Lol I need to work faster.. too few videos!!

[@UStride]

@@OWGAC same here

[@shelbyramsey7472]

Hey Hsiang love you Vid's keep up the good work. I just purchase a new Monster from eWheels today i should get it by Saturday.

[@OWGAC]

congrats! oh you're gonna have so much fun riding that thing. spend some time gettting familiar with each of the 3 riding modes, they make the monster behave very differently and it's important that you find one mode that works the best for you.

[@shelbyramsey7472]

@@OWGAC you were right this is the most amazing wheel I've ever ridden. The way it rides is undescribable i should have bought this wheel months ago thanks to your videos i decided to pull the trigger again thxs.

[@Born2Ride108]

I ride a 100v Monster with a Michelin city pro tire. Google it. Such an awesome wheel even better more agile with this tire. I always say to all those EUC riders out there I wish you all shred time on the MONSTER! It will blow your other wheels off the road!

[@OWGAC]

I'll have to look it up! I really have very little complain against the tire it self though, it had been grippy, cushy and all around perfect.

[@Born2Ride108]

@@OWGAC the stock tire is a great tire but doesn't have the carve characteristics as the Michelin road tire. Depends how you like to ride.

[@archeebookingagent1909]

Gotway released trolley for monster.. I have 2 of them .. they mount to the end like MSX.. but on the outer shell.. I have not installed it yet as I have seat that is even higher than the standard so I don't need it but it's an option for the other monsters I have ..

[@archeebookingagent1909]

as of the wheel for newbie.. well I was newbie and Monster was my first wheel.. the fact that I'm bigger guy and the tire is wide was better for me than the regular KS 18XL or MSX.. way before Nikola or 16x was released

[@OWGAC]

Lol I actually had said; not for beginner but maybe if you are a bigger guy, since a local rider is lusting after my monster for the same reason! But the video got too long so it got trimmed =)

[@dcernach]

This one is a great machine, but a bit impractical. Its weight, poor portability and handling ended up being a deal breaker, at least for me, I 'd rather have my 16X or an 18XL. Anyway, your review was great, loved it!

[@OWGAC]

Very impractical and only for a very specific type of ride, buuuut it's smoothness and stability is unmatched by anything else.

[@temporarymomentary]

Dalton Andrade And crappy customer service in US.

[@belkenator]

And don't forget the axle issues!

[@RennyMcCullough]

Great video @Hsiang, I've been trying to make up my mind what to buy for a while! Also, what protective jacket is that, IWOOT!

[@OWGAC]

Its an old Dianese motorcycle jacket, no longer available but I love their gears in general since they are cut better than the other brand I think. I have a link to the current version in my video description.

[@stevesellers3170]

I just bought 1 from ewheels. Should get around March 6. I have tesla...mcm5...msx.. I had to have this wheel. I need to have the best that's the way I am. I can ride ok. Been riding since last summer. This should be interesting. I think I will ride it at the grass ball field near my house till I feel comfortable. Don't want to bang it up if i fall on blacktop. I'm excited. Can't wait.

[@OWGAC]

The Monster is likely no other EUC and if you like highspeed and stable rides no other wheels come close. I am sure you'll love it!!

[@MrJbchocolate]

Oh nooo,......no trolley handle? I’ll stick to my 16X and my IPS. Too much $ for so many inconveniences...off my chart. Thank you-good review

[@jakesplace9721]

I notice that you rarely use the seat. I would be interested to see a video comparing the riding, maneuverability, etc. With and without the seat.

[@OWGAC]

I am way less maneuverable when I am seated but largely because I rarely need it since I don't do long distance rides often. I also feel it a bit restrictive having the seat between my legs even if I am not seated, but again probably because of lack of practice since I do know some local riders that never take it off!

[@christophenguyen5340]

Hi ! Looking forward for your next Z10 review (versus Monster) as these a 2 extreme beasts. You will tell us how it feels to be back on your z10 after having ridden he msx and monster for weeks/months 😁

[@jimlarsen6782]

Regarding the monster you are like the devil and the angel on both shoulders at once. So, as engineers know, everything is a compromise. Now we need one that flies too.

[@OWGAC]

Yes! Balance is key!

[@gadgetvolt3640]

Currently saving for the Monster 100v 3108wh, seeing a few people talking about oscillations, axle issues and other tech problems but damn it, I'm selling my z10 for it, I have an 84v MSX and a 16x...Nowhere to go but up, really.

[@OWGAC]

Someone recently commented that they had issue with their 3100wh monster where only half of the battery are connected. When you do get the wheel make sure you buy it in a way where there are some protection like via PayPal or your credit card since it will be very hard to wrangle a refund if something is wrong. And open it up and inspect it when you get it.

[@gadgetvolt3640]

@@OWGAC Definitely a good idea. I also tend to message the seller prior to buying, asking about their warranty and refund policy, so I'll bring up the issue this person had and see if they can also offer some form of guarantee.

[@chicanohek]

What’s your camera/ mic set up? Did you a wireless lav?

[@OWGAC]

Check out the video description for my setup!

[@AlbertVicol]

Did you fix your z10? waiting for mobo on mine :(

[@OWGAC]

The preview was suppose to keep you in suspense till the next episode!! =)

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Great info. Have the Inmotion V10F and loving it. But was thinking of Monster V3 for a better cummuter to work. Too many issues to deal with for the price.. Cheers

[@OWGAC]

Gotway in general are very different kind of wheel when compared with inmotion; they are pure hobbyist grade and require a lot of tinkering to keep in optimal running order. but you do get top performance.

[@arfcomcobra]

Hsaing, what do you recommend for a newbie, rookie, amateur for a first EUC? I would appreciate a review of beginner EUC's for newbies

[@OWGAC]

I am waiting for a chance to test the V8F, but anything in the 16" or 18" range all would do. Either get a used wheel for cheap to beat up or just go all the way and get a 16x or nikola and pad it up well. I would avoid anything more than 2 years old as EUCs are advancing at a really quick pace!

[@cistawad]

Your videos makes me wanting to buy a z10. :) Is it ok to begin EUC with a z10 ?

[@ZenLee]

my friends first wheel was a z10, he's doing great on it, he's in my newest video if interested in seeing it offroad

[@StreetRiver]

My first wheel was the Z10. After 20 minutes I had gotten the hang of it. :)

[@cistawad]

Thanks guys ! Ninebot take my moneyy ! 😅 Great video btw ☺️

[@OWGAC]

Beside all the potential issues associated with a Z10, the wheel it self I think is perfect to start on since it is really maneuverable for a wheel its size and have enough speed for you to grow into. I still love my!

[@roccatagon]

polish EUC Service (official partner of Gotway) probably will offer in this season MSuper Pro 2400Wh... Range of this wheel should be this same as Monster, or even bigger thanks to lower weight. It may be interresting competition for Monster. Could You make in some next episode direct comparission betwen MSX/MSP and Monster?

[@OWGAC]

I am hoping that I'll have the change to ride and review a MSP in the near future, stay tuned!! =)

[@888rogermoore]

Your very wise to wear motorcycle clothing a little bit more hi-viz needed. I cycle and also drive,and ride a Honda cbr. I like this idea. If your brave enough to ride a unicycle good luck with it.

[@FinnBjerke]

I really like your films mate, this one in particular. I have dreams about the V3 but maybe I should wait for v4 ? Maybe Gotway will find a bigger engine in near future... I love My MSX, My MCm5 and Mten3.

[@OWGAC]

I hope so! it is long over due! either the monster or the MSX needs an overhaul in 2020!

[@FinnBjerke]

@@OWGAC Well Im new in this - I find MSX near perfect for me, but the larger Monster wheel might need more engine power to get better acceleration? I decided to get into EUC when I was hospitalised with a broken leg and watched youtube vids to kill time. Your vids inspired me, now Im EUC driving every day...

[@OWGAC]

@@FinnBjerke the monster is a much more deliberate wheel, it'll take more distance and time to get to the same speed but it is much more stable than the MSX, you should try it if you ever have the chance!!

[@bam13sept]

Love all your videos. I started watching afret I bought my airwheel q1. I will try to get the z10 next year. Waiting for the next video. Keep wasting my time!

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!!

[@TheRealAlpha2]

It's basically half an electric motorcycle, at least one of the smaller ones. Considering some of the tech going into those motors lately I'd almost expect to see something to challenge the Monsters supremacy soon, but it'll probably be from GW since no one else seems crazy enough to try.

[@OWGAC]

It'll take a more substantial investment to adapt a larger motor to the EUC, and as much as I love to see it and think that the monster needs it, I am not quite sure if Gotway is willing to make that leap. I really hope that one of the other manufacturer step up with their performance so that there's a bit more competition to high speed wheels.

[@123hanna11]

You produce great videos. But I recently bought a MSX and I am experiencing tilt back at slow speeds. I live in Tucson and I believe that there is a service shop here and I would like the phone number for them. I believe that you have also mentioned a person named Mario. Can I please have his number as well? Community, and technical advice would be greatly appreciated

[@OWGAC]

Sorry not familiar with Tucson, but have you check your tilt back setting in the app?

[@123hanna11]

I did!! Thank you so much for assisting me. Have a great day

[@g_l_0_0_m55]

“Not for beginners” *me getting this wheel as only my 2nd euc up from a 9mph swagroller I had years ago* 😈

[@garymarshstein8992]

I'm surprised to see your choice of footwear, Hsiang. I find wearing softer soled footwear like typical running shoes to be significantly more tiring and to require more biomechanical input than harder soled footwear.

[@OWGAC]

I tried a few different type of shoes and at least for me having a semi soft sole works the best since its important for me to “feel” the feedback from the wheel and surfaces.

[@RobUKTH]

Loving all your videos Hsiang. Do you run your EUC tyre pressures quite high? I think I can tell from your voice when you're riding! 😅 Stay safe and keep up the excellent work! 👍

[@skip123davis]

this is a young man's game. looks like fun, and if i were still 28 or so, i'd prolly be down.

[@OWGAC]

Well, the medium age for riders I believe are actually somewhere in the 40s; which I suspect is partly due to the higher cost of these wheels and partly due to younger riders gravitate towards electric skateboard. Anyhow, we have riders in their 50s and even 60s in our group so don't let that stop you.

[@slomnim]

you don't have to go fast to enjoy the float feeling! get on one :D

[@skip123davis]

@@slomnim i might try - if i wrap myself in bubble wrap, lol! i'm 57, and concerned about balance.

[@slomnim]

@@skip123davis it's actually... not as hard as it may seem? it'll take persistence to first get the mechanics. I'd advise training next to a waist-high fence, grabbing on for assistance for the first 2-3 hours, even. once the basics are acquired, most of the skill is knowing how to properly mount and dismount. Best part? If you train on grass or something soft, you can drop the wheel no problem, worst case just jump off and walk! I won't deny it takes more time than many other devices, but the freedom and curiosity that it opens up is astounding... No speed necessary! Look into a wheel called the KS16s or a Gotway Mten3, see if it suits. Think about it this way, it's like riding a bike. It probably took about 1 hour to even sit on, right? and then a weeks practice to pedal and understand turns, same with unicycles! at low speeds too, 60-90% of "falls" are just you jumping off and walk-running. these things can take a beating and are worth learning if you stay curious~ :D Just some friendly encouragement from a young 20-something that's trained a few friends into the awesome wonder that it is. Stay curious!

[@skip123davis]

@@slomnim thanks for your thoughts and encouragement simon. maybe this could help me build my balance - instead of highlighting it. do you have some thoughts on an euc that is inexpensive and useful to try out? i don't want to put a lot of money into it if it doesn't work out, you know? but has to be good enough that i might could succeed.

[@furubicu]

I want to know how your Z10 looks. I'm from Brazil and I'm looking forward to buying 1 =)

[@OWGAC]

I hope the new video got you covered!!

[@furubicu]

@@OWGAC youtube translation is terrible, I don't understand almost anything. I will try to understand the video again. thanks for answering

[@Blebona]

...got it. ill have to work my way up to it.

[@OWGAC]

Yes, and every EUC rider owes it to them selves to at least try it once!

[@valveman12]

It looks like a lot of fun...

[@2slice805]

Another classic

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!!

[@mC_DiDiDiDiDi]

You don't need to be a hardcore enthusiast, this was the second wheel I bought, I live in Guangzhou, China, which is quite an aggressive place to ride. I'm by no means an ace rider, but the monster is very comfortable and relatively easy to learn. I am tall, heavy, I can't comment on smaller, lighter people.

[@OWGAC]

I rarely hear from anyone who's in China, what's the PEV riding culture like there? are you able to rider where ever you like and as fast as you like? I'd love to see some videos!!

[@mC_DiDiDiDiDi]

@@OWGAC there are not that many people riding in Guangzhou, it was made illegal a year or so ago, but like many laws the police just forget about it unless they want whatever it is you're using. I usually ride however fast I like unless there are police around because I don't want to give them an excuse. I remember last year riding by the river, and one particular area a security guard was upset with me riding, but other than that anywhere seems good, bar the obvious (government restricted areas). I did take some go pro videos, but they became corrupt, I'll need to do it again at some point. Mounted the camera to the wheel, had quite a cool view. Never seen anyone else with a monster. One thing I feel fortunate about is that I am in contact with people at Gotway, which makes it relatively easy to get parts and advice. Last year I overloaded the max weight by carrying 30kg of cat litter plus my body weight up a hill (I live on top quite a steep hill). The control board flipped out, so I replaced it with the updated version, and added two new fans in an updated position. Relatively easy job, no problems since. I also have an mcm4 back in London, I originally used the mcm4 here in Guangzhou until I decided more power was required: I actually bought the monster because I live on a steep hill and the extra power makes that climb much easier, especially when food shopping when the heat and humidity make the hill climb on foot a sweat fest. I am however considering a z10, just never got around to buying one as I am also quite a keen guitarist, and I've recently discovered the wonders of Eastman guitars (acoustics) quality-price ratio, which takes up a fair amount of expendable income.

[@tangtang7051]

I want one, but I don't have the money to get it. I may get one someday, and if I do I want to have a Batman helmet, and a really good cake so I can flutter in the air while ride up and down my hood. The only problem is I'm not going to be a crime fighter, and I'm not rich like Bruce Wayne so it's going to be awhile before I get that monster wheel. I could only dream, and hope my dreams come true to get one before they make a version for and make it real expensive.

[@OWGAC]

watch Marty's video, that's how he rides!

[@tangtang7051]

@@OWGAC Who's Marty?

[@future_pba]

My Monster stock tire has 6,100+ miles on it and still plenty life left

[@OWGAC]

That tire is a beast, I am near 1000 miles and it barely looks worn.

[@__dummy__7523]

Seeing you don't have any trolley It can't be the best wheel on the market... That's the reason I choose the ks 18xl. 115 Kms range not bad for only 1.5kw battery and 90kgs rider and very comfortable. Plus I don't need to fix any axle. Better reliability. Not to make gotway bashing but for the price they could make a better wheel...They falsely think their customers want only speed without reliability. Kingsong was founded by gotway former employee.

[@OWGAC]

The monster is an extreme wheel and is mostly for people who have been riding an EUC for sometime and is curious to see what that next level of performance feels like. If you just have one wheel I agree that you shouldn't buy the monster. 18xl is a solid option, one of the few EUCs that have had very few issues

[@__dummy__7523]

@@OWGAC first wheel a 250w generic wheel in 2015 with 5k range(a big shit). 2nd ks16s in 2018. 3rd v5f in 2019 (tricks freestyle). Fourth 2 months ago ks18xl. You re right I wanted to go further with the 18xl 😊. To see what's like to ride at 32mph. But I still prefer tricks and freestyle as I did lot of gym and circus.

[@Skecys]

Nice wheel, though the quality does not warrant the price :(

[@temporarymomentary]

All unicycles are poorly made. It's a shame. They use cheap batteries too.

[@Skecys]

Monster is pretty much a MSX in a cheaper body (no handle, less leds) for almost 1k $ more... That's one expensive tire ;-)

[@OWGAC]

Skecys: it is an entirely different wheel, if you never rode it, I guess you wouldn't know.

[@__dummy__7523]

@@temporarymomentary KingSong wheels 18xl, 16s, are not poorly made at least the ones I ride. I own v5f inmotion and you're right it is poorly made.

[@chrisrathjan1501]

I have ordered the 84v because at the time the 3100wh 100v wasn't available and just wanted to the extra range and a little more speed than the 50kmh limit of my msuper v3s+. Although I don't think I will need the extra speed from the extra voltage I'm starting to wonder if I have made a mistake. Can anyone shed some light. I was thinking if I needed to I could get extra batteries and the 100v control board. I guess I will find out soon enough.

[@OWGAC]

Unless you want to push 35mph + the 84v is perfectly fine. I honestly rarely do in my normal riding pattern but do appreciate the additional headroom available. But again it would only be worth the upgrade if you are a speed demon!

[@mann953]

These machines will mess up your knees and ankles

[@OWGAC]

According to my doctor, the only thing that does not mess up you knees and ankles are sitting on the couch watching TV. You know even walking down stairs is technically bad for your knees right? My mom refuse to get a dog because she didn't want to be sad when the dog eventually gets old and pass. Do you feel the same?

[@kennyb123]

@@OWGAC Actually, sitting on the couch watching tv DOES mess up your knees. www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/well/move/marathon-running-may-be-good-for-your-knees.html

[@stewartcampbell7794]

1'st Tyme Viewer & as I am Shopping 4 an E-Chair , Is This a Safe & Suitable Mode of Transport 4 Disabled , Super Elderly , [ Granite Set ] , Type Person's ? I Own My Own Brain Bucket & am Already Toothless so I am Quite Prepared 4 This Eventuality of Propulsion . My Only Worry is The Nancy-Pant's Speed Limit of 40 MPH . Can Unit B' Modded ? Perhaps a Manual Transmission of Sort's , Complete with "Suicide Stick" ! I-Like , I-Like ! YYZ , Mohawk-Planker . Merry X -Mass .

[@pitbullgermany4048]

EUC maybe fun, but as a everyday ride...not so much. I don't want to put on my entire motorcycle gear and my business/work cloth in a backpack. Nope, to me this is nothing more, but a fun vehicle. And since I am from Germany, these EUC will never be streetlegal. 😂

[@OWGAC]

Gears are only required if you want to push for greater speed. If you are traveling at the same speed as a bicycle, there are no reason why you would need more protection unless you are still learning how to ride. I have heard that the auto cartel is strong in Germany but they have to see that not everyone can drive to work, especially in a city?

[@cheebawobanu]

I wish I was twenty again

[@OWGAC]

Lots of 40s 50s and even 60s years old in our group, we may not be able to take a hit like 20 years old but being older and more experienced you learned how not to take a hit in the first place =)

[@MrJbchocolate]

Hey, Hsiang, from the IPS to a monster....?🧐

[@qobilruzmatov48]

Nice

[@subliminalpain]

more power, smaller battery, longer range.... someday.

[@OWGAC]

I am hopeful, compare with the wheels from 2 years ago the leap in speed and range is incredible!

[@vincentkim2721]

^^* good

[@OWGAC]

Ooo this is an oldie now =)

[@nocturnal5123]

Too heavy cant control it in crowd.

[@OWGAC]

It is a “monster”; keep away from children’s please =D

[@nocturnal5123]

@@OWGAC I will sell it i'm so mad at this machine.

[@Κανένας-τ1γ]

Puppy

[@theshadow9131]

I wish one of this. Someone wish to give a bautiful gift for hollidays?

[@jakespur6094]

Some people have too much money

[@OWGAC]

Children are super expensive, but do you look at them and say the same thing? I am guess no since you know that human are emotional and there's this thing call love.

[@XerXxezs]

Ensusiest

[@skunkhollow1]

Why the hell would you buy this instead of a small motorcycle? You could not pay me to ride that. You have absolutely no ability to stop quickly if necessary, and if you do, you will likely end up landing on your face.

[@OWGAC]

I rode a motorcycle for 10 years before switching, and I have good reasons to do so. But it sounds like your mind are set and there's nothing wrong with that, it's a free country and enjoy whatever you like! But, if you must know, I do have more videos explaining why I made the switch.

[@sby1076]

I bet with my @rse ,one dislike is from Kingsong fan!! Lol