Erin and Amanda: Grown Mama Drama | Family or Fiance S2 E7 | Full Episode | OWN

Two brides planning their wedding hope to resolve issues with their own mothers on their road to happily ever after. While one mother desperately wishes to be part of her daughter's life, another prays her daughter's sexuality is merely a phase. (Original Air Date: September 4, 2021)
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[@jameelahjhayes6139]

Amanda is projecting. Her lack of relationship DEFINITELY impacts what she thinks of her partner's mother

[@Mrbiscuit70]

Amanda is a mature, straight talker. Being raised by Grandma will do that👊🏾 They weren't ready for it 😂

[@auntielovechannel2816]

Just because you're not comfortable with your own mother doesn't mean she has to be the same way

[@MsMenifee2u]

EXACTLY

[@nahhhbruhhh]

She doesn’t want her to be uncomfortable , but to know that even without your parents permission you can still be yourself.

[@MissAshleyRenee413]

Amanda is exhausting she’s aggressive to call your partner lazy and dirty and tell her parents to their face it’s your fault. Gworl..if you’re trying to foster a relationship this is the absolute wrong way to do it

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE BECAUSE I WAS LIKE IS SHE SERIOUS!!!!!!??????

[@originaleverythingelseisca5977]

I am soo glad her mother accepted full responsibility and accountabilty

[@concreteroseclothing]

Erin reminds me so much of Sanaa Lathan!

[@lorrainewilson5234]

Wow, thanks for your observation. Indeed she resembles Sanaa especially when her head is tilted

[@KanezaMac]

I was thinking Tamar Braxton!

[@janicescott-pair97]

I thought the same.

[@Sho-nr4oi]

I said the same

[@CandiceCane444]

Yes absolutely! I came here to say that. She's beautiful, and I think her personality is just amazing. They're a great couple.

[@SweetBeeNatural]

Some people think Amanda is rude because some people can't tolerate that level of direct honesty. She was never disrespectful. She just didn't sugar coat or walk around the issues like folks prefer.

[@shariemills2973]

I agree with you !

[@taraanthony6326]

Completely agree

[@user-ob6co4wx4u]

I always have time for people like this

[@lanettemcdaniels9543]

I was actually surprised to see people thought she was rude. I definitely didn’t get that vibe, just direct.

[@blckqueen6002]

Yes I had to come back to comments because I’m like who was rude?

[@lavenderfields8783]

Amandas words are so real that people see it as rude. She is just being real and she is doing it in a respectful way. No anger...no yelling. I was cringing at some of her words but it was me being uncomfortable not Amanda being rude. Society is uncomfortable with realness

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

She is RUDE AF!!!!!!

[@Rukilawal]

Amanda will always put a distance between Erin and her mother

[@shermariyahurst1613]

Keep it real and be respectful. Amanda doesn't have a relationship with her mother. But you want to tell me Erin how she should be with her mother. Ma'am sweep around ya own door first . Fix her relationship with her mother first.

[@lesley5380]

Sweep around your own front door- I love this saying.

[@nahhhbruhhh]

The only thing she said was for amanda to respect herself and your parents shouldn’t determine your self worth

[@randomVandollz]

Bruh exactly she literally just trauma dumped on that poor lady.. but I will say she had to say it cause Erin was not going to but the venom was misdirected

[@MAMMASALI86]

I think so far this is the best and calmest families conversation in this show.. 😊

[@djsaveaves]

Amanda is rude and she doesnt let anyone else talk but i think its because she’s been so quiet about her issues she cant softly address anything

[@Iamjeffsledge]

this

[@tommyrivera6565]

This was the best episode I have seen. The love the closure n acceptance….wow what a great family on both ends!❤❤

[@spreadlovenothate5017]

Amanda has no right trying to counsel Erin on her mother's behavior when she has no relationship with her own mother. Come on now!!!

[@CandiceCane444]

Omg, I LOVE Dr. Ramani ❤ I would be so grateful to get counseling from her.

[@lettabugable]

Amanda was out of line. Granted, the mom probably needed to be called out, it just wasn’t her business telling the mom about her parenting skills. And speaking on Erin’s relationship with her mother being “superficial” yikes

[@torry24]

Well if it’s the truth it’s truth. People can’t change if they can’t face their own truth. People love to live in fantasy worlds.

[@lettabugable]

@@torry24 no, it’s a time and a place for everything. Not only was it not her place, but to address her mother in front of a crowd in that manner? Totally out of line.

[@torry24]

@@lettabugable sooo, just go on a show with a therapist to discuss issues of the relationship before marriage and not talk about the issues of the relationship? Gotcha. So what would’ve been the correct time and place ?

[@lettabugable]

@@torry24 my answer is in my previous reply.

[@torry24]

@@lettabugable oh okay..

[@NekBg27]

I don’t care for Amanda at all. I’m sorry she really need to focus on her relationship with her mother before trying to get married

[@TheReal_GuguG]

Love Amanda and her directness, how she calmly relays her views and objections which tend to be misconstrued as being rude

[@Nasir-2345]

Amanda is checking everybody else but her own mother & that’s where all of her frustrations are coming from,..Amanda is definitely jealous of the relationship her fiancé has with her mother!

[@cl5343]

This whole relationship is out of order

[@pettiestofbettys]

Yeah the parenta who don't accept their children are pretty trash. I would remove the relationship all together. Family or not

[@Drando1989]

From its INCEPTION.

[@vasht7976]

I don't see a problem with a family member such as your mom or dad calling late if it's necessary

[@gailsmith836]

What if it’s not though?

[@kylawanderlust9939]

How necessary is it to call at 3am? To the point the partner needs to bring it up (meaning it happens far too often)

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

That part!!! No problem at all👏🏾👏🏾

[@BingingInPeace-ev3bp]

Amanda’s mom is already irritating off the top. Didn’t raise her daughter but want some kinda deference around who she loves.

[@gi-gijay4114]

Did they cover the WHY she didn't raise her versus raising the twins?

[@solokish9759]

Amanda is rude. It wasn’t her place to say any of that

[@terrismith1818]

I completely agree. How dare you tell me that I raised my child wrong. Inappropriate!! She was rude….the end!

[@preciousuno70]

INDEED.

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@billcannida6282]

I ABSOLUTELY ❤LOVE THIS SHOW 👍

[@lolozum7295]

Erin's too damn gorgeous

[@kamys6133]

Erins mom got off kinda easy. She knows if Erin was marrying a man she would've told EVERYBODY!!

[@IamTiaB]

I miss this show

[@GTA9989]

Amanda is exhausting

[@Rukilawal]

I thought i only felt that way

[@karengauthier3791]

Yes!!!! Almost insufferable!!

[@pureceeparis]

She is.

[@btsofbabyd]

Literally lmao

[@msbossatlanta]

Erin not checking Amanda for her rude and disrespectful behavior is the biggest issue ! I honestly feel like they both are the problem with both there families . I can see why her mother doesn’t have a relationship they are judgmental and non-accountable

[@GoddessPower777]

Rude by doing what exactly? aI saw her being direct . She didn’t call her out her name, yell at her.. The mother didn’t like what was being said because she didn’t want to be accountable. In black households (i’m black) it common to not be allowed to voice truthful opinions to adults/parents. It’s considered talking back defending yourself and your emotions. Even her husband admitted that he picked up behind erin. cleaning wasn’t fully enforced cause they’d do it.

[@msbossatlanta]

@@GoddessPower777 I’m black as well , she was rude with the things she said . She wasn’t listening but quick to cut in and assert her opinion on a relationship that wasn’t even her own to speak on . She should’ve let her work that out with her mother first on her own . I feel as though the mother was taking accountability she just wasn’t willing to be accepting . Yes her father did admit to picking up behind her but to call it dysfunction like there was something wrong that she was raised different was rude and disrespectful. She didn’t retort and says well I feel as tho dysfunction is forcing children to grow up to fast with to much responsibility or not giving them freedom . She was doing to much and it was misdirected

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

@@msbossatlanta👑📣💯👏🏾👏🏾

[@esthernyokabi3225]

Erin is so pretty

[@MistyEE21]

ERIN is very beautiful ❤❤

[@Jay-wr6kw]

I get Amanda want to be heard , she want boundaries and respect but she isn’t giving that off 🤷🏾‍♀️. Everyone has to conform to her way and feeling while she vandalizing others

[@yolandiacurtis7997]

facts..

[@lolozum7295]

Yes I agree . She doesn't have a listening ear.

[@erijulie]

After reading the comments I tried to give Amanda the benefit of the doubt . But she’s crossing a boundary . She’s disrespectful!

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

Boom!!!💥

[@Samaralaiken]

Amanda’s grandmother did an amazing job raising her! She is emotionally intelligent and has done the healing work and she just wants the same for everyone else and that’s unconditional love!

[@JreamHer]

Amanda seems so draining!!!!!

[@yolandiacurtis7997]

right

[@clifford5560]

Yessss!

[@LiberianDoll2001]

Erin just sits there listening

[@PrettytruuEarth]

I think they are bonding through trauma. Both girls relationship with their mother isn’t healthy. I wish them the best 🎉

[@briannasturdivant3550]

i love how erin’s dad took his jacket off and gave it to amanda. despite how character flaws

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

Yes he’s a real one, much Respect to the Dad!👑👏🏾👏🏾

[@lisamagruder8672]

Why am I crying! Awesome episode

[@hairbylatreya]

How she’s going to talk about the relationship she has with her mother and she doesn’t have a relationship with her mom at all? It seems like she’s trying to break up her relationship with her mom..

[@genysis9598]

Is this show still lit 🔥 in 2024?

[@Nesiadee]

The Amanda slanda is baffling me. She had the guts and the maturity to pull all the skeletons out the closet with so much grace and patience and REALNESS. I think that realness is bothering some of y’all.

[@sattasana7753]

I hope they made it. I hope Amanda gets used to shrinking for the woman she loves. I just can’t take someone being this pompous and condescending and definitely not to my family. It’s feels like Amanda is the loudest with her sexuality but the most insecure with it.

[@bellalenee263]

My ex fiance was very honest and my family couldn't handle it they also thought she was rude but she wasn't she was direct she shaped me to be a person that would be able to be assertive especially in work settings when my mom raised me to be her babysitter and slave I'm grateful to have met her she changed me for the best🤷🏿‍♀️ she also showed me the ways my mom would manipulate me to finace her when my siblings father was present in the home

[@keylacmckemp1309]

I am glad she did these great things in your life. Many of us are on the outside looking in, and you know her best. I'm glad you are stronger and healing. All the best to all of you.

[@rosedene1045]

Amanda said having a relationship with her mother matters but you brought her into a privileged part of your life which is marriage so why don’t you do therapy with her first

[@biancaleewilliams2308]

If I could just meet a man with the amount of emotional maturity, Amanda has❤️🚀

[@prettzie]

I’m confused with Amanda’s mom if Amanda says her mom relationship is nonexistent. How can that stop a whole relationship of 5 years with someone you decided to spend your life with, unfortunately Amanda trauma with her mother needs to be handle first.

[@katayabattle5484]

Amanda gives off Om right and my view is the only one that matters. Ppl like that are draining in their own way bc they find issue/fault with everything. Loosen up sis. It’s giving I’m a self proclaimed therapist 🥴

[@Querin_TAO]

They look so cute together. 🌈 😍👩🏽‍🤝‍👩🏿

[@suegirl452]

Amanda trying to point out other people flaws and she a walking contradiction

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

Exactly!!!!😂

[@elenam.sogoba9045]

oooooh i need a man like the darksin girl or her herself shes so honest and I love it

[@KhusiMakele]

Even if Amanda has some valid points with the parenting of her partner. It's just that she is so forceful with what she believes is facts, and that's the problem we have with a lot of lgbti folks, their beliefs can be so forceful. All of that is a process

[@nahhhbruhhh]

That’s insane to say lmao. People being themselves isn’t forcing anything on people lol why should they have to shrink and conform? Lol please

[@lolozum7295]

​@@nahhhbruhhhyou're not hearing nor understanding what is being said 😮😊

[@nahhhbruhhh]

@@lolozum7295 😮😮😮☺️☺️☺️😉

[@emmaleeparillon8544]

If her mother didn’t matter to her she wouldn’t have been so emotional.. just saying

[@MahaliaA]

I said the exact same thing!

[@salome9124]

She didn’t say her mother didn’t matter to her. She said she don’t have the capacity to go through the ups abs downs and disappointments again, so therefore she wants space from her instead of closeness.

[@gi-gijay4114]

She is very HURT by it. It's evident. Childhood trauma is real!!

[@naynaywill]

Sometimes it hurts to actually say it out loud. You can try to ignore it by beating around the bush, but actually saying out loud is hurtful. Especially being a female about the mom

[@ADW-i1h]

Amanda is harder on her fiance's mother than she is on her own.

[@Ginaaaa555]

I get Amanda approach is aggressive (need to work on) but what she is saying is the truth. She literally sticking up for both her and Erin when it comes to their mom.

[@Rukilawal]

She doesn’t need to do that. Erin should be stick up for herself the way she knows how to

[@Ginaaaa555]

​@@Rukilawal Yes very true but as you saw in the video. Erin is sometimes scared to say stuff to her mom because she feel like her mom is ashamed of her

[@Lani-r1o]

I liked this episode

[@mirabella2154]

Amanda is absolutely disrespectful and rude.

[@kandidkennie]

Waaaay too aggressive with Ashley's mom...

[@mirabella2154]

@@kandidkennie Yes. I honestly think that she is trying to create a wedge between Erin and Erin's mother because she is jealous that her relationship with her own mother is practically non-existent.

[@djsaveaves]

She is, I think she doesn’t respect family relationships because hers are so broken.

[@lrobi1614]

Amber is way over the top when talking to Erin's mom. And she is disrespectful talking about her lack of cleanliness with her parents.

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@kdchapman2012]

The dynamics are challenging, but the question is, once the cameras are off, will they still have their families' blessings? I hope the best for Erin and Amanda.

[@elenam.sogoba9045]

i dont understand people that that say they wouldn't move forward with THEIR wedding if their family doesn't approve

[@lorrainewilson5234]

Amanda Amanda, wow. Very rude and you can rub anyone the wrong way. With this attitude i can see it being very difficult for the families to have a cordial relationship

[@gailsmith836]

I think she was direct and I personally respected her for her refusal to listen to bs.

[@nikitawilson4682]

This episode was so wholesome. And the girls are so damn beautiful.

[@shatimar9069]

This is Such a Reallly great one. The Whole Show.

[@StrangePrettyThings]

This was the best episode

[@malloryl1]

If Amanda is feeling so negative towards Erin and her fam then why you trying to marry her again then it’s not like she herself is perfect

[@denisejones9615]

Amanda is definitely projecting because of her pain from her relationship with her mother

[@1980tiffani]

Agreed.. she’s gonna call out everyone else because of her childhood. She needs to voice all of that to her own mother instead of being ok with cutting it off

[@jaxpax2566]

Are these properties someone personal residences that they lease out to the show?

[@JoisaysHealing22]

My thing if she had no right to attack her Erin mom like that

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

Exactly!!!!👑👏🏾👏🏾

[@lovingmylife9415]

They didn’t hug 🫂 TERRY that’s a first time I ever saw that on the guest

[@audreyedwards96]

I don't see Amanda rudeness like others. I see direct honesty which many confuse as rudeness. I am happy her mother understood. U can believe n what u want to believe and still support ur child.

[@yolandgibson1233]

It go both ways

[@kamariasia]

I don't see why everyone has such a big issue w/ Amanda. She's trying to build a real relationship and she targets issues that are hindering the relationship while it seems as though others are being passive and tip toeing around the issues. She's blunt, I like that.

[@MzCandyApple5683]

I need a friend like Amanda 😩 ! I love her pure honesty. Ppl say it’s rude but that’s amazing. She also isn’t disrespectful with it. Now she may push a boundary though lol

[@Lstaelor]

There’s a def a correlation with how she’s going on her fiancé and her mother.

[@thandekamadonsela3527]

How rude is Amanda, my word. I feel so sad for Erins mom

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

I speed raced to the comments!!!📣

[@rosedene1045]

Amanda speaking for Erin I don’t like

[@michellelyons2664]

How she gonna tell her how to treat her mother,when she got problems with her own mother. Talking bout she past needing a mother,she’s bitter and disrespectful asl!

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

Boom!!!💥

[@Deeonya12]

These people need Iyanla!

[@camillawestbrooke3475]

I think Amanda is too real for most

[@Deeonya12]

Why is she attacking the girls mother?

[@dionnedemoubray1613]

She cannot love right now. She’s too far into her self protection.

[@LauraBonginkosi]

Ouppppp now miss Amanda got a sharp mouth on her

[@GoddessPower777]

Amanda is scared to have a relationship her mom. her feelings were played with and dismissed ❤ now get having an issue with the time in which her gf parents calling their daughter is a little much even though if there isn’t an emergency why call that late.

[@kinabass1759]

Amanda if it's such a problem y stay for 5 yes. And y would you want to marry her. Erin let her go , she's very demanding , will end up changing everything about you when she's been cool all this time. RED FLAGS ALL OVER IT

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

🚩💯👏🏾👏🏾

[@shaylucky3514]

I like Amanda she was honest. Erin is spoiled anddont speak her mine. She dont like conflict

[@keishasmith379]

If ahe didnt think having a relationship with her mother matters, u wouldnt get emotional and cry about it. Ppl dont think it does until u see someone ur dating relationship or ur mom gets sick. U will regret it later.

[@JosephCecilSmith]

🌎♥️💜💙💚💛🧡❤♥️💜🌍 ♥️Gorgeously Lovely!‼️🫶🏿💚💟 🌍💚♥️💜💙💚💛🧡❤♥️🌎

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

I ❤️ the way you did the emojis!😁

[@keishasmith379]

I dknt care what ppl may say about others but there should never be and disrespect speaking to a parent.

[@Cre8______]

What is wrong with amanda she’s giving me tae from “Tae and Lou” vibes 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@HerKayb223s]

As soon as I seen her & she started talking I thought the same exact thing

[@lrobi1614]

I don't know who Tae is but Amanda is rudish

[@NickyLoves]

The drag girl is getting on my nerves and I only watch five minutes of it

[@bontletau7761]

This is gonna be me one day

[@Sophie-fi6dm]

Keith, Keith, Keith...😂😂😂 Literally waiting on the sidelines for his chance ... And she never shuts it down. How she believing this man over her OWN damn man 😂😂😂😂 Revealed himself at the end like a true Marvel villian😂

[@lolozum7295]

Wrong episode sis 😢😊

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

@@lolozum7295😂😂😂😂 on point, I just watched that episode earlier

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

💯

[@videehoe2269]

Amanda is disrespectful

[@BlessedtoSOAR]

I don't think Amanda was being rude at all. I think she was genuinely being honest. I think she wanted Erin to be completely open with her Mom because she wants her to be heard & not afraid to be herself completely.

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

😮😂😂😂

[@fatimafaithmuhammed2209]

Devil is such a liar

[@blackbox1911]

No u are

[@yolandgibson1233]

Your mom love you but she doesn't have 2 like your lifestyle she don't have 2 explain anything 2 you

[@esauonlampkin]

Happy pride month all ❤🌈😌

[@torry24]

Amanda does come off harsh but it’s obviously the truth because Erin never goes against what she says. People can’t take the real truth.

[@cupcakely997]

Having deadbeat parents they have truly convinced themselves what they failed at is ok & they tried their best.

[@brownskingirl6988]

Amanda needs to focus her energy for own mother and deal with those issues. With Amanda being so direct on border line rude I’m really surprised this relationship has lasted 5 years

[@xemcode777]

Amanda mom look like Snoop Dogg!!???

[@clifford5560]

😂 I just spit my juice out…cause WHAT?!! and she does look like she could be his sister