PA Vs MD: Meet Sundance--Shes Done Both.wmv

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Sundance describes her choice to become a physician assistant student (PA vs MD). A prior medical student, she explains her decision to become a PA. She's articulate, sharp, and open to answering questions. To ask her about her experience, visit us at Inside PA Training at www.mypatraining.com, click the "contact" link near the top of the homepage, and send us a question for her.

[@j.b8728]

Hello, I worked with Sundance at a Northern California Kaiser x 1.5 years as a PA. She is as inspirational, supportive, and nice as this KZbin presents. She was so helpful. Good luck Sundance

[@MsJessIZcrazy]

It's funny how future Med students will come on posts like this and try to undermine the PA profession. My response, as a future PA student, is that we all have to sacrifice something in life. There will never be a career that has 100% satisfaction. My work-life balance is really important to me, so If I want to sacrifice the higher pay, I will do it. Prestige and money is not what I put on a pedestal anyway. For me, happiness outweighs everything else.

[@joynwodo4788]

💯

[@evapanzo7998]

Did you ever become a PA?

[@maev_8927]

yes!!

[@david9840]

You made the wise choice. Life is not about money or status. The things that matter in life are family, friends, joy and happiness, having time for yourself and for your loved ones.

[@thegreatlordkaiser]

production quality: poor content: excellent thanks for the vid

[@Carolina-xj3dq]

Wow, 10 years & this video still resonates!

[@marinyoung534]

Really appreciated her thoughts and advice! Thanks for taking the time to do this and for sharing it.

[@m1ozano]

Sundance- you are completely admirable for the decision you made based on your lifestyle goals...you speak so eloquently and are so entertaining to listen to...this video was so informative on differences between the two careers and couldn't have been stated better than from someone as yourself...thanks for the video!!!

[@LuckyDukeSeven]

Good for her! I'm in my residency program, and I have no time for anything. And what little time I have isn't sufficient to do much. I encouraged a friend of mine who wanted to get into healthcare by didn't want the intense physician's commitment to take a look into PA school. PA's are really helpful around the hospital, and usually have fantastic bedside manner. I try to be as bubbly as possible, but I work so much that it's a little hard. PA's are a valuable asset.

[@cutycake]

Thank you for that insight, what type of residency did you complete? I am trying to weigh both PA and med school but how challenging is medical school and residency?

[@ypmm53]

Thank you for the info! I applaud her for not allowing ego to impair her life and finish Med school. I wish her the very best in life and her career. Respect to her for sharing her journey. Thank you to you both!!

[@Koecharles]

I love you guys! you just hit everything in a nutshell and I just made up my mind... my ego has been the problem all along

[@princessjazz5767]

Sundance i hope you see my message (plz dnt mind my username I am a female) I started as a pre med.... Went through a lot of life shit, financial shit, emotional shit and realized PA Profession is the right fit for me and not the MD.. Hence I embarked on this journey.. I am taking my pre reqs.. this fall and hopefully applying for 2022 cycle.. I agree with every word Sundance said and this is exactly how I feel.. THANK GOD its still not too late for me.. GOD opend my eyes and I realized the lifestyle I want to live..

[@nathannguyen2041]

Ah man, I wished Sundance would have spoken about how she went from art to medical school e.g., how she went about the prerequisites and did she take additional classes as padding? Did Sundance donany clinical experience or volunteer in the realm? Very untraditional background! Would loved to have heard more

[@quantumcrash7266]

I really resonated with her perspective and values. Inspiring, lovely person.

[@eipassacannad]

Excellent perspective. Definitely didn't feel like a 13min video. I could've listened to her for at least another 20min without being bored. Thanks to the both of you!

[@davidegbufoama804]

So glad I came across this video.

[@MainAttrAKAtion31]

As I'm working on figuring out why exactly I would like to become a PA (here at Barnes & Noble, with my notebook literally writing down all the reasons, both superficial and not), I came across this video. Sundance literally summed up in a word what it was I am searching for: BALANCE. I literally wanted to burst into tears as it was like an epiphany! I've already committed to myself, if I don't get accepted into PA school this year, I will apply again next year. Thanks for the motivation!

[@Eggplanet96]

Teal so what did you end up doing? Did you get accepted?

[@j.b8728]

Hope it worked out for you. I worked with Sundance in Northern California prior to returning home to L Southern California

[@estherpianim8798]

I think that Sundance's story is amazing! She is a great inspiration!!

[@jaysmith6013]

i graduated medical school, from a foreign school in the Caribbean. I passed all the USMLE board exams. Due to the extremely high competition and stigma against foreign grads, I was never able to get a residency. My goal is still to practice medicine, and therefore applying to PA school this spring. I know PA school is very competitive, but I really hope I can get in. I know I would be a great PA

[@vickystar99]

If you don't mind me asking, what school did you go to in the Carribean?? I have a friend who's debating on whether or not she should go to school there or complete her DO here at home.

[@jaysmith6013]

I graduated from Avalon University School of Medicine, Curaco. I would advise your friend, under no circumstance should she go to any caribbean school. NEVER make that an option

[@ibrakeforbutterflies]

In my personal opinion, if you've already spent enormous time and successfully graduated med school, you should keep looking. You aren't the only one who is having trouble finding residencies, as I read recently that it is a national problem for med students of all nationalities (there are some that have went 2 years without finding one). Maybe if you want to be a generalist, you could catch a residency easier, since that is the US's downfall (high need for them since everyone's becoming specialists). Network with people as well, find out where your classmates went, as it's more about who you know rather than what you know nowadays.

[@ohkay1161]

I have a buddy who just couldn't pass his USMLE Part 1. He went to a Carib school (go figure). He is in PA school now. It can happen. If I were you, I would look for a less lucrative speciality to match into and just get what you can.

[@sahar1usa]

valerie val Of course complete DO at home, it would save her 4 years.

[@marymadelinelamastus9452]

SUCH a helpful video! Thank you so much!

[@ICookieAzoz]

I wish I ran into this video earlier. This was so freeing to hear a story from someone who quite literally walked both academic paths

[@MrBacaza]

Sundance seems like a beautiful individual. Thank you for your perspective, I've been on the fence myself for some time though i don't think that'll be the case after hearing your wise words.

[@flowerbirds2961]

WONDERFUL INFO! Thank you both ❤️💯

[@xxthunderbird46xx]

Excellent interview with a great guest. Please please please do more :( Sincerely, current international 3rd yr med student switching to a PA program soon for pretty much the same reasons as her (a focus on family and...my life, not just medicine).

[@cutycake]

Hey, why did you decide on switching to PA, I am trying to weigh both right now?

[@ndeitz]

Great informative video! I graduated with a bs in chemistry I was premed and dreamed of doing dermatology until I transferred colleges and my junior year and found out about PA. I couldn’t get into pre pa program and I applied to PA school and didn’t get in because of my lack of experience ....I have a high gpa but lack extra curricular stuff Took a year off dealing with my dads death and regrouping myself I did not realize how competitive PA school really is and I will be applying next April and really doubting myself ...I am 24 and the feeling of time running out or comparing myself to other peers who are half way through med school and freaking out that I am wasting my time with applying fir PA school because I feel every little thing I do isn’t good enough fir these schools. I feel I am running out of time to figure things out. I have shadowing experience but they say I need more it is very hard to get someone to shadow with when you are no longer a student and have no one in my family who is in healthcare field. I have a ton of volunteering hours but they would like it to not be only at hospital and I have little leadership experience to put down. I currently work as a CNA and love what I do ...I am all over the place if I should go nursing route, or study for the mcat and go MD route , or just keep trying to get into PA school.

[@MHSMagicLuver]

Nicole Deitz I applied 5 years and finally got in. Keep adding things like more direct pt care. Do EMT or phlebotomy, volunteer, shadow. I’m 27 so I won’t be done until I’m 29.

[@somethintru1]

wow...what a great video. I have been struggling with whether to go into med school or PA school.

[@mikeman6kids]

Congratulations on being a mom. Sounds like you made the right choice. I did the opposite was a PA then became a MD. The opportunities for PA's in the 70s less than what they are today. The job can overlap but the MD training as she said takes a much more from you and out of you.

[@cutycake]

I am in the same boat as you, I don't know if I will choose MD in the future after doing PA, I am more biased to MD, however the time commitment in residency makes me worried. Is medical school really not as balanced as she is saying?

[@missiemoolissa]

She's amazing

[@mikecolts7]

Enjoyed the video. Am seriously considering a career as a PA. This was helpful!

[@azntigerpimp4]

Thank you for telling us your experiences. Im considering both pa or med school. My friends are in medical school and I know it's tough. I think PA option might be a wise decision for me.

[@XTheXRizzaX]

This video nailed all the questions I had. Thank you for posting this! Go aggies

[@WeLikePeanutButta]

hook em!

[@ytb917]

this is a very thoughtful woman.

[@mathu991]

Amazing interview

[@dorotheadixon9294]

This is PERFECT!!!! I went through MD school overseas and have been studying for the USMLE. Then, I was deciding between spending a long time studying the USMLE jobless or just go to PA school, work a little bit as a PA while studying the USMLE, then try for the USMLE. Let’s see what she says 😇😇

[@BorisThePA]

So glad this came up in my feed, what an amazing story!

[@MsJessIZcrazy]

I want to get into a PA-MPH program as well! I wish you luck in your future endeavors!

[@jamescc2010]

Great video! What do you guys think about NP (Nurse Practitioner) which to me very similar to PA but maybe with more flexibility like able to work at any hospital, clinic, being in hospital management where PA can only work for a doctor or in doctor office? My daughter is starting her pre-nursing in CA and one of the friend's mom Nurse said she like PA better because a NP still has to take orders from doctor. So which one is better oversall.

[@TheUchicago2012]

@SkylarEllison, you are oversimplifying. The average PA program is 27 months (FYI, three years is 36 months...). So a little over 2 years. After a person finishes medical school, they then must complete a residency for 3-5 years, depending what area you go into. So, PA training: a little over 2 years. Med training: 7-9 years. In order for doctors to further specialize (higher pay), they may complete additional training after residency (fellowships) increasing total training to 9-11 years.

[@tinylilron]

Hey Maudian... Did you end up going with the PA-MPH program? I am wavering between DO/MD and PA. I am interested in public health research and would like to have an academic track. I want to be able to conduct research with a great clinical background. I am almost 27 and it would take me two years to actually get into medical school since I would need to re-take the MCAT and I would also like to have a family life as well. I am interested in learning what you decided. Thanks! :-)

[@marhaza1]

wow i love how she thinks. she has the right attitude and heart about medicine and patient care. i would love to work alongside her!! :-)

[@pixychx2418]

Thankyou for this.

[@Selimagick]

While in the PA program what do the studies mainly consist of? Is it mainly biology or do you still have to continue on doing complex mathematics and organic chemistry. Do they actually teach you what you will be doing as a PA the first year? Because I hear much of everything you learn in undergraduate school is only 20% of what you will need when you actually start working.

[@rdo1231]

This was very helpful!

[@kendrahubbard57]

EXCELLENT INFORMATION!!!!

[@JurglyWurgly]

Great video. I'm an NP and agree that having direct contact with patients is everything. Continued success on your journey!

[@Maudian]

Thank you for this interview! I've gone as far as to be accepted to medical school and now that it's staring me in the face, I'm having serious reservations about whether or not "the 18 hour day is enough for me", as you put it. The more I think about it, the more I feel that something like a PA-MPH program might be more to my liking. It's really hard to give up a medical school acceptance. . .but I'm trying my best to do right by myself (which, ultimately, is doing right by my patients).

[@cutycake]

What did you end up doing?

[@dovgewirtz1633]

Thank you ! What a sweetheart !

[@greent26tube]

Great vid. Would have listened to this if it was an hour long.

[@Qyeenz]

Sun dance is an amazing person. I adore her!

[@vidalcordova7276]

I'm so glad i found this video.

[@EmilyAmner]

me too

[@jessssheheh]

she is adorable

[@thepranibook]

This is exactly what I my situation was as well:)

[@Tina2tu]

I'm still deciding whether to go to PA school, or medical school....I'm stuck.

[@Nhxn_]

Well, look at it this way. Some MDs wonder what it's like becoming a PA and some PAs wonder what it was like becoming a MD. There's really nothing wrong about each career you field to go into. If you want total autonomy, than become a MD, but then again some PAs get close to 100% autonomy because of the physicians that they work with.

[@Tina2tu]

That's something to think about. Thank you!!!

[@Nhxn_]

Tina2tu no problem

[@ohkay1161]

Shadow, Shadow, Shadow. I cannot emphasize this enough. I feel there are distinct personality types that fit each profession. There is a lot of liability in medicine, insane long hours, insane expectations, stress, autonomy (not always a good thing), and ultimately it's a lifelong commitment. Don't look at the prestige and money and let those be your ULTIMATE factors. It's a very long haul to becoming a doctor and you have to be 100% for sure. Don't get me the wrong way. PA is not a backup to medical school and it certainly isn't a walk in the park. It's a very demanding program and you have to be for sure it's what you want. My experience: I could have picked either but I chose PA for lifestyle purposes. The liability and expectations of becoming a doctor are arduous, expensive, and ultimately indentured servitude will take over your life for a period of time. Is it worth it? Depends. Depends on what YOU want in life. Keyword you. I have too many of my buds whose parents forced them into medicine. Some are ok but they definitely aren't happy. The TV shows (Mindy Project, ER). Don't look at the money. Yeah, you make more. But at what cost? Will you get to enjoy your life? Be with your kids? PA is HOT now. People are finding out about this profession and things are changing for the better. PA school is HARD to gain admission into. The numbers just don't lie. Be sure to really do some research on the web. Talk to docs. Talk to PAs. Get a real life perspective on what it is before you make the commitment. Once you choose either, the debt locks you in. Moreso medical school. Best of luck.

[@Nhxn_]

Oh Kay This was really great info! This might be personal but can you tell me more about your story about getting into PA school? The process, the amount of schools you applied for and how was your PA program like?

[@brennonmitchell7753]

I’m a freshman in junior college and I’m about to start my first classes, I want to be a pa so bad but am terrified of not making it, and not being able to compete with other pa students.

[@christineyolanda1976]

brennon mitchell Hey, don't be scared. You'll do great. Just work hard. You're already on your way 🤗

[@lookupsensation]

You’re gonna do it!

[@MHSMagicLuver]

Just keep your grades up and see if you can do any direct pt care job on the side. But only if your grades don’t suffer. PA school is difficult. It’s not difficult because of the info because they teach it well. It’s difficult because of the amount of information. Started 3rd semester a week and a half before we had our first exam.

[@Adam-bq2vw]

I hope someday to click on a KZbin video where the person immediately addresses the topic and offers no extraneous information. 🤞

[@NYCdude321]

@mypatrainingvideo Do you think becoming a CNA is good direct patient care work experience before becoming a PA?

[@K1370]

Thank you for this! Holla at you haha

[@LuckyDukeSeven]

Primary Care doctors (Family Practitioners, general internists) all do 3 year residencies after getting their MD, DO or MBBS. At least that's the way it works here in the US.

[@TheOneThatGotAwayRMAPLS]

I like her a lot

[@GABRIELJACMEL]

Good For her I love the video.....

[@MogulGroup1985]

Great video

[@schoolissoboring1]

Most Pa school is a little over 2 years. 1 year studies and 2nd year is rotations. At least thats how it is in California.

[@Sparksterfu]

Commiefornia there are still 24 month programs and 27 programs.

[@judynorman7604]

Awesome story

[@adelanegoita3407]

I don’t know I don’t think you can make a decision based on what other people tell you. I believe everyone has their own reasons for telling you what they tell you.

[@nicwright09]

Cool. Inspiration.

[@TheUchicago2012]

@SkylarEllison, what's even worse is you probably think you're supporting becoming a doctor, but most doctors I know would be seriously pissed by your implication that doctors only have 1 more year of medical training than PAs. Doctors work insane hours during residency and fellowship, so even though they are officially doctors, they are very much still in training. I hope you educate yourself more than this before you attempt to choose any career path!

[@owlthoughts]

Can you be a physical therapist assistant (PTA)?

[@princessjazz5767]

I am also gonna soon start my youtube channel once I get to PA school and will leave my professional handle

[@marhaza1]

but any responsible NP has to collaborate often with MDs and will take their advice. and NP freedoms also vary by state, for now..

[@droma51090]

wait did you basically finished med school and then go for PA?

[@ThoughtsOfDestiny]

A lot of patients don't really understand what a PA does. They often confuse it with CNA. I think "Assistant Physician" is a more appropriate title. LET'S RALLY THE MASSES! The new PA = Assistant Physician

[@Confettifun]

Or physician associate like in the UK. Physician Extender is also a contenter

[@MHSMagicLuver]

They have assistant physicians. They are those who went to medical school but don’t match into a residency.

[@LovewayKid]

@Jamescc2012 If she wants a job that is more like a doctor she should be a nurse practitioner, they don't have to take orders from physicians actually.

[@LuNacyGoose]

Is there anyway I could get in touch with Sundance? I'm a medical student and finished my 2nd year of medical school but I've been putting off taking Step 1. I have $100,000+ in debt already from 2 years but I'm not sure if medicine is the right path for me...I'm actually thinking about switching to PA school because I feel as if the lifestyle is much better... I would love some guidance here.

[@astro_monist2559]

BLT Klub any updates on your situation?

[@AfroMedic]

did you graduate or go to PA school?

[@LuNacyGoose]

@@AfroMedic I went to PA school, graduated, love it. Been working for the past 5 years. Best decision I ever made.

[@CRU22]

@@LuNacyGoose So cool that you actually updated us.

[@LuckyDukeSeven]

A thought just occurred to me: She did 3 years of Medical School, right? She must be massively in debt. Wowzers. I hope she gets a high paying job.

[@tinylilron]

What did you end up doing? Congrats on your medical school acceptance btw. :-)

[@timmyb80x]

Not really true. My wife made around 45k as a resident (although still deferred student loans). If you know waitresses making that, they must have really awesome food! Also, many employers pay some of that debt, and with good financial managing, that 180k can be paid off well before retirement.

[@LuckyDukeSeven]

Didn't complete her MD. Third year (which she started) is the start of clerkship. You get your MD at the end of the 4th year, and still can't practice till you've finished a 3-6 year residency. You could say she did see most of what medical school had to offer though.

[@drew1981]

NP working independently of Physicians in inaccurate. PA's and NP are not different at all. Pts see no difference in them. The difference between a regular nurse and a PA and not a NP .....well. That's like comparing a dog walker to a welder. Not even a close comparison of the fields. Not the SAME job remotely.

[@Azaryat]

I currently go to PCOM. My questionis, do you ever become as good as a doctor? Will there ever be a time when you can do 100% of what a doc can do? We currently do rotations with med students and I do not think they know any more than me in basic sciences. I daresay that PA school is the same as medical school but in half the time. I do feel that there is NO difference between us and MDs and residency can be replaced with experience. I hope to see MD/DO/PA at the same level one day

[@jamesedward550]

You're delusional

[@RathOne123]

Mmmm I know I'm not your straight A student but deep down I know it will kill me if I dont become a doctor. If i were a nurse or even a PA it would kill me having to work for a doctor knowing that could have been me on top. Do PA's feel that way, do you feel that you could have been the doctor rather than the assistance?

[@Nhxn_]

Some PAs get almost 100% autonomy, just depends who you work with. Just remember that this is a team effort and that you aren't just working for a dictator, and if you can look over your ego than being a PA is a great choice.

[@RathOne123]

Thanks alot man!

[@nicolelam3223]

Do you want to be a doctor for status...or do you actually REALLY want to be a doctor? Insecure individuals might feel unhappy; however, all the PA's I have talked to LOVE their job and never mention it being a problem for them. I would research more about the differences and see which one fits your lifestyle more.

[@xo7499]

first take the MCAT and then you can see if you could have even the slightest chance of becoming a doctor. before even saying you'd die to become a doctor . lol

[@RathOne123]

Nicole Lam thanks for your 2 cents!

[@CitizenofDystopia]

No, they don't. They learned an abridged version of medical school. They basically take out all the scientific training behind becoming an MD/DO and teach mostly just the necessary skills to give treatment. Physicians have a greater body of knowledge and scientific understanding, which is why they are able to diagnose more complex problems and relate to deeper understanding of the disease process. Think of engineer vs general contractor. Both build a house, but one makes the blueprint.

[@andrewhunter742]

This is an excellent way of explaining this - thanks!

[@7DJS7]

Actually, PA school is 2 years. The average debt of a PA grad is ~50K. Med students leave with ~180K in debt. PA grads can immediately begin their career where ENTRY LEVEL positions can pay up to 70K salary. MD's must enter a 4-5 year residency w/ waitress salary (minus tips). And when they finally begin, their pay IS better than a PA, but most MD's don't get THEIR debt to an even reasonable amount until sometimes their 60's! They are near retirement before they start making any REAL money.

[@zx0683]

7DJS7 Wtf are you talking about most good residencies pay $50-$60k

[@Sparksterfu]

@@zx0683 5 years ago maybe but times are changing fast 108k average salary according to forbes for 2018.

[@Curry4sizzle]

This is misleading. She didn't even finish medical school nor did she encounter the real challenge which is residency. She's just someone who tried med school and re-assessed their life and did PA instead.

[@ricardorodriguesrr18]

Exactly.

[@sahar1usa]

Well, I interviewed 3 Drs, they all told me: IF you can become a MD why would you go for PA? One of them specifically told me 'not to choose PA' ' if you go for Derm PA, the max that dermatologist ask you to do, is to burn a mold. Is that what you want to do in your life?!'. So, my survey results were quite opposite to compare with yours. They all said not to consider PA as a career.

[@aruytpadyugf]

lili M You have to consider that she sampled a total of 60 interviews with MDs and PAs before making a decision, but in your case you only sampled 3. If you want to get a better idea of MD vs PA, then I suggest you talk to more people. Interviewing only 3 MDs is a relatively small sample that is prone to bias.

[@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro]

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[@aruytpadyugf]

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[@nicolelam3223]

I guess it depends because a lot of doctors I have talked to have told me PA is the way to go and many doctors I have talked to actually told me that if they could go back, they would NEVER go to med school and thought PA would be better for them. I think the best advice is to really research what an NP, PA, RN, DO, and MD does and what they cannot do. See which career fits your lifestyle and which career will eventually make you happy. It's so hard to be happy nowadays, so choose what's right for you. You know yourself best, so only you can make the best decision and that's really by doing lots of research. Take people's advice and analyze it, don't make decisions based on what people tell you. Choose the path that you know will let yourself be you.

[@nicolelam3223]

I agree.

[@Ama28]

what is the difference between being a nurse and a pa?

[@PoliticalWeekly]

Did Sundance complete her MD or did she leave for PA without finishing school?

[@cmhardin37]

She didn't finish medical school

[@alexa.3907]

Why not do a family med residency? She was so close and it's such a cushy job.

[@nicolelam3223]

She still has to do residency and I am sure she did a lot of research before she made her decision.

[@pricklypear1111]

I'm a first year at an allopathic medical school, wouldn't trade it for anything. Couldn't deal with being anyone's "assistant". MD or bust!

[@annatracy2484]

10kSpoons i don’t think that’s the whole point of a PA.

[@sickbasterd123]

Meh not every doctor is working 12 hrs a day in the ER, many doctors who have their own practice and work 3-4 days a week if they want , really just a shit stereotype people use to cope with their decision of not pursuing their dream

[@MamzMoves]

Can't she be an Internal Medicine MD with 4 years without residency?

[@ChakraDog1]

No you can't

[@jamesedward550]

nah

[@noahfarrell7082]

The term mid level is extremely demeaning.

[@bryan5065]

Why? PA’s are in “the middle” of the hierarchy between nurses and doctors. It’s just accurate.

[@SkylarEllison]

Actually PA school is 3 years, genius. Two years academic and one year of rotations. Look at any accredited PA program.

[@SkylarEllison]

PA school, not worth it. Med School = 4 Years. PA School = 3 Years. Med School = Big Load Of Debt. PA School = Big Load Of Debt. MD Pay = Better Than A PA's. PA Pay = Not As Good As A MD's. PA Respect = Not Much. MD Respect = Much More Than PA's.

[@julesrenard9479]

SkylarEllison Med School = 4 years plus minimun 3 year residency PA School = 3 years Med School = Big Load of Debt PA School = Not as much debt MD Pay = Better after at least 7 years PA Pay = Good pay after 3 years PA = More family time, fuck respect MD = Less family time, more respect I guess. But generally in a hospital PA's are called "doctor" by patients so I really don't think they get disrespected

[@anon4449]

all true. She's ignorant

[@Abby-th8ur]

are you a med student?

[@allisoncastillo7675]

If you’re salty just say that lol

[@nicolebeck1269]

I don’t really think the respect thing is true. I’ve been a RN for 8 years. Worked all over.. PA s & NPs are very highly respected, just as much as the MDs. In fact they are usually nicer and easier to talk to and mess stuff up less. Plus, now a days, the doc is rarely in hospital ... only residents and they are kinda useless. The PA , NP,& RN is teaching them . Not saying MD is not needed. Just the respect issue.

[@NYCdude321]

@mypatrainingvideo Do you think becoming a CNA is good direct patient care work experience before becoming a PA?