Pac-12 realignment plan FAILS to add Memphis/Tulane/South Florida, gets Utah State..UNLV next domino

The Pac-12 went into Monday with hopes of adding a trio of schools from the American Conference in Memphis, Tulane, and South Florida. That plan fell through and then things continued to get worse as the day progressed, now they're waiting on UNLV to see if they're in a truly dire situation after adding Utah State.
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Pac-12 realignment plan FAILS to add Memphis/Tulane/South Florida, gets Utah State..UNLV next domino
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[@scott4482]

I believe that Memphis and Tulane will come to regret this decision

[@Jonas-nf2bc]

No, they’ll be fine. Once FSU and Clemson move on, those two schools will slide right in.

[@atgdcommish608]

UTSA will regret it more. Maybe they will reconsider.

[@2k3SteedaGT]

Why tf would we want USF in the pac12? That’s just as dumb as Stanford going to the ACC.

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

The USF may get an ACC invite to backfill just in case of FSU. I mean USF is the second best team in Florida right now.

[@JohnnyDeJesusRodriguez]

@@CarlaJenkinsTVUCF and Miami are the best Florida teams

[@daddio159]

@@JohnnyDeJesusRodriguezwell, that’s thinking that UCF could beat UF not sure that’s true. We’ll know on Saturday if UCF wins.

[@Jonas-nf2bc]

@@CarlaJenkinsTV UCF is undefeated along with Miami so #2 on I-4 of course 😂

[@atgdcommish608]

USF did seem like an oddball choice. Maybe the TV networks (or consultants) would pay more if they were included in the deal.

[@edgarramos3015]

Things are moving fast my friend, let's see how well this video ages!

[@chainsawkillers]

Yes. Terrible video. Gloria Nevarez overplayed her hand in hardball negotiations with the PAC-2. That lead to five (counting) schools leaving the Mountain West. The PAC-7 is already in court challenging the amount Nevarez thinks she is going to get.

[@lastpme]

I think it is fine because the travel costs would had been insane…especially trying to add USF. I feel for the MWC.

[@emoney3912]

MWC getting done by the Pac-12 just like they did the WAC

[@MarketAndChurch]

Wouldn't tv contracts have subsidized a lot of that?

[@MattBuild4]

The MWC could have avoided this if they didnt try to hamstring BSU, SDSU and Fresno State in the middle of existing contracts. You dont like teams leaving? Well maybe dont try to renag on what you agreed to pay them, when you are already paying them a fraction of what they are worth. The MWC calculus was that Boise was too academically poor and too geographically constrained to ever get a better deal and that the PAC would never fall. They never anticipated California getting stupidly expensive to the point where Boise is seeing 4 consistent years of 300% growth coupled with the PAC collapse.

[@atgdcommish608]

All the Pac had to do was add 6 Southern teams instead of 4. Then you play 5 games locally and 3 against the other half of the conference, meaning you get 1 or 2 long road trips per season. Unless you're USF, of course.

[@atgdcommish608]

@@emoney3912 And the MWC is turning their sights on C-USA, with the Pac12 bag o' cash.

[@ryanm9628]

PAC-12 will add UNLV & Utah State. Gonzaga for Basketball.

[@RockSmithStudio]

I think they will also add St. Mary’s for basketball, making it an 8 team football conference, 10 team basketball conference. St. Mary’s is a solid basketball program, plus it’d give the PAC a door back in the Bay Area

[@PATRIOT904]

​@@RockSmithStudioSaint Mary's would be great if Uconn joins for basketball. Adding Gonzaga would make a powerful basketball conference.

[@dgart7434]

@@PATRIOT904 UCONN won't join for basketball. They would only leave the Big East for a P4 program. What they are talking about is just for football.

[@scottyking7161]

Im a Memphis fan. And I'm speaking for 95% of the fanbase. We hate the AAC. If you look at footage from 2017 to 2019 Memphis home games. Then look at even the Boise game crowd last year vs the 2019 SMU game. We are tired. Since joining the AAC WE'VE watched Uconn Rutgers Louisville Cincinnati SMU UCF HOUSTON 7 schools out of 10 gone. We could care less about ,rice,Charlotte, tulsa,FAU,UAB, ECU, NAVY,ARMY,Temple! This was a chance to right the ship with the fans. And they dropped the ball. 2026 we'll have a 220 million dollar renovated stadium freshly finished. And it won't make a damn when Charlotte comes to town. Sick of this shit and so is everyone else in memphis. Goodluck guys enjoy being better than us!⛈️⚡️☔️🎭🎪⚓️⏰️⏰️⏰️🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍻🥂🥃

[@Jonas-nf2bc]

Right the ship with fans? So you’d be fine playing Utah State, Colorado State, Fresno State and Boise lol? What an upgrade to be disappointed by 😂.

[@daddio159]

I wish the Pac would’ve focused on UTSA and another Tx school instead of Tulane and Mem. Maybe they can come back to them and offer to pay their exit fees.

[@SportZFan4L1fe]

Add San Jose State, Utah State, Texas State (or UTSA) and UNLV. Thats 10 teams right there and you get a Texas school. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@2018josh]

No SJ please.

[@Gerardoealcantara]

Those school want to go to the PAC12 but its just too expensive for them right now to exit. So its a tough situation

[@STC987]

Yep.

[@aaronbrown9156]

I think it’s more wait and see, the following year their penalty to leave goes down significantly.

[@maccleezy801]

P12 didn’t fail those schools failed themselves by not accepting imo. The AAC is trash with currently 1 team in the top 60 and P12 has 5 but 6 if/when they add UNLV. Let’s not even talk basketball where it’s even worse. Dumb move by those 4 AAC schools. Overestimating there leverage like the former P12 commissioner GK, the current MWC commissioner, ect. P12 is by far the best G6 conference and there’s even more smoke the Zags will still join. You are tripping Spencer and I usually agree with you.

[@SavedAndConfused]

Utah State seems like a good move, they're a decent basketball school and grabbing them destabilizes the mountain west which makes unlv more likely. If they grab Gonzaga and another good basketball school like UC Irvine or Grand Canyon theyre one of the best basketball conferences. For sure best in the west. For football everything hinges on UNLV and maybe another sneaky add like hawaii or an fcs

[@charleswebsterjr.6350]

The MW could definitely look into backfilling with FCS Schools.

[@jaredmitts5203]

@@charleswebsterjr.6350 yes but it also brings down the mw valuation

[@atgdcommish608]

The Pac should definitely try to get 2 teams in Texas. Maybe North Texas and Rice? Or Texas State (cheaper) and Louisiana?

[@jordanlee6176]

No reason to regret them not coming over. in reality, Memphis is the only valuable member to add for football and basketball but staying reginal and focus on basketball is a great second option.

[@cvzphotography]

They need to hope that the ACC crumbles then Stanford and Cal come back. They shouldn't have left.

[@Jonas-nf2bc]

Stanford and Cal don’t see themselves aligning with San Diego State and Boise State. They’re an educational first not athletic first university. So even if FSU and Clemson leaves, they’d still rather be aligned with Duke, Virginia, Boston College from an educational purpose.

[@atgdcommish608]

The ACC won't crumble. Only teams with an SEC or B1G invite can afford to leave, meaning 2, maybe 3 at the most. The other teams will stay put with a decent TV deal and a better chance to win the conference.

[@heetcrusher2880]

Agree with most of what you said except for one thing. Nevarez started this whole mess. WSU and OSU at first did not have plans to rebuild were just planning to wait it out for couple years and see what happens. But during negotiating for the second year for them to play against MWC teams Nevarez greatly increased the cost thinking she basically steal from PAC-12 she felt we had no where else to go or do. None of this would have happened if she kept the same fee for second year or a little bit more. But she chose not to do that. Now Teresa screw the pooch big time with the AAC schools. I am not 100% sold on the assistance just being 2.5mil for their b/o I have not seen that reported by anyone reputable other than the net or couple Radio DJ's. But still I would have went hard after them maybe not so much Florida school but Tulane and Memphis I would have open the wallet on them.

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

WSU and OSU have always stated very clearly they intend to rebuild the Pac-12 brand

[@dgart7434]

I don't think the AAC schools closed the door on the PAC for good. All they did was say no to 2026. If those schools give the AAC a 27+ months notice the exit fee drops to 10M. So if the PAC can get to 8 AND have an appealing TV deal they could quickly be back on the table for 2027 or 2028.

[@terranceramirez4816]

They’re probably waiting to see what happens with the ACC now too. Now that they have their new thing that’s supposed to stabilize the conference until 2030, it’s not inconceivable that they’ll frontfill anticipating the departures of at least FSU and Clemson in 2030. In that instance Tulane, Memphis and USF are all probably close to the front of the line to get a call up.

[@dgart7434]

@@terranceramirez4816 I would argue that adding SMU and CalFord WAS the front-fill for a potential FSU and Clemson departure. The ACC will only add more if they lose 3 or more teams. Could that happen in 2030? Maybe, but it is too early to say.

[@MattBuild4]

@@terranceramirez4816 I just cannot imagine a conference with NC State, Louisville, Stanford, Cal, Wake Forest, Pitt, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Memphis, Tulane, UTSA, USF, and SMU is worth $15M per school. Thats a $200 million annual TV deal.

[@atgdcommish608]

Yeah, I remember the Pac12 office putting out solidarity statements every month or two last year. They were non-binding and meant nothing when the B1G, Big12, and ACC came calling with cash.

[@davidbrown386]

Good show Spencer: 100% spot on about NM ST & UTEP being good fits for the MW. If UNLV stays in the MW, maybe Texas ST is school # 8 for the PAC? Maybe the bigger story is it is looking like Conference Realignment is going into hibernation until 2030 ( which comes close to the end of the Big 10 & SEC TV contracts) which is when all you know what will break loose.

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

Idk if Texas St has been contacted but if I'm the Pac-12 and UNLV doesn't jump today or the MW doesn't implode, I would make the call. Texas presence isn't bad

[@terranceramirez4816]

C-USA has a GOR so at this point I think it’s just as likely that if the PAC snags UNLV and the AAC Air Force, that C-USA grabs UNM for all sports and Wyoming football only and coup de graces the MWC leaving three schools that no other conference wants and would struggle to get even enough FCS schools to join them to remain a conference.

[@stevedonnie4077]

Monday sucked, but there’s a pretty clear path to the PAC being fine and even a path to them being great. Adding UNLV is a clear first step. If they can add Gonzaga, Grand Canyon and/or St Mary’s that’s a huge bonus. If they can win or even settle their lawsuit and reduce the poaching penalty that’s also a big win. And finally a no from those AAC schools now is not a no forever. If they get to 8 teams and get a media deal with agreed upon escalators then that answers the biggest question the AAC teams had. Do that and get some good news in court and suddenly the pitch to those AAC schools looks wayyy different.

[@smileyr]

Even if all the AAC schools say that they are committed, guess what? That is exactly what all the pac12 schools said when USC and UCLA left for the Big 10 and look what happened. weeks later they all left.

[@atgdcommish608]

Exactly. Press releases aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

[@PCSPounder]

The truth may be thus: There’s only so many desirable time slots on networks most people watch. Once the Pac-12 was being shunted away from them (at least on a consistent basis), that’s why USC started flirting with independence… before they convinced the B1G they had to move. The time slot the networks want the Pac to be in, the slot for which they’ll pay the Pac now, may not be what Memphis wants. Maybe the Pac should’ve shown ‘em all the bird. California was going to make their school athletics fully professional, but that died in the Assembly. Maybe that was the move. Very few of the options after that are satisfying or tenable. Remember before the departures when some Pac schools hinted at the possibility of 9 am kickoffs? That was a sign.

[@baseballdude8491]

UNLV will join

[@GovernorSilver]

I think the Pac-12 began expanding now instead of waiting for the next offseason so they can start working out their 2026 schedules, and get an early start on looking for a media deal.

[@charlieh108]

The great "Battle for the Crumbs", wages on.

[@sqwatchman53]

As a Dawg fan there was a time where I was rooting for OSU and WAZZU to not fall into irrelevance. However with the hypocrisy that mainly WAZZU fans displayed over the last year or so… I can’t help but laugh. How dare they destroy a conference. They needed to show leadership and dO tHe RiGhT tHiNg! Derp.

[@liljoe31]

they should just rename pac12 to mountain west part 2

[@stevedonnie4077]

I have no take on the morality of this, but there is a big difference between getting demoted and taking 100s of millions in damage vs causing no demotion and 10s of millions in damage.

[@sqwatchman53]

What was Washington supposed to do? Stay in a dying conference while Phil night and Oregon outspent them? It’s just hypocrisy. If the B1G had approached WAZZU they would have left in a heartbeat. And if they said they wouldn’t they are lying.

[@PATRIOT904]

A Flop is when something has failed and disappears. Pac-2 is building.....UNLV will join.

[@atgdcommish608]

The Pac12 rebuild is definitely not a flop. Maybe a C+ instead of an A- though, if they had landed Memphis and Tulane.

[@Blazesita]

Epic fail by the pac once again doing pac 12 things. Heard they low balled the aac schools n wouldn't pay their exit fees

[@atgdcommish608]

Exit fees were 25M per. The Pac offered to kick in 2.5M, which meant the AAC teams would have to pay too much compared to the projected TV deal bump from joining a stronger conference. But the AAC teams still should have done it, for better competition and visibility.

[@serrincroft7771]

Utah State was option two and it was going to be extended along, but they needed to take care of Memphis and Tulane first. The offer was extended at the same time The extended it to UNLV so you can’t say one was a priority over the other. Look at the numbers, Utah State has a higher attendance rate and more tv viewers for the games.

[@merlabel1253]

I think this will be a fun football conference to watch.

[@FelixChavez-xx9bg]

Next up to PAC12 will be: UNLV, Air Force, and New Mexico State

[@smileyr]

Idk why this guy thinks the pac 12 failed because to me, I never really considered Memphis or even Tulane as a possibility to begin with. For both those schools geography makes no sense. Very hypocritical to talk about geography in 2024 but if you take away any west coast conference, Washington Oregon and to some extent USC and UCLA still makes sense geographically in the Big ten; Washington and Oregon is still up north. The strangest one is Stanford and Cal going to the ACC but outside of that geographically all the conferences still lined up. I have never considered Memphis or Tulane as a possibility for the Pac 12 anyways. UTSA maybe but thats it. UNLV, Utah State and the like of San Jose state would have been my first options not Memphis or Tulane.

[@liljoe31]

why is the pac12 just ruining the mountain west? why dont they ruin all the g5 conferences equally? it is 2024 all about equity. as a UNLV alum i sincerely hope we never join the pac12. the two remaining members were too good for mountain west, but apparently not too good to poach half the league. what a mess. the only one that hurts for me as a fan was fresno st leaving, considering the history between unlv and the bulldogs

[@vegasmarc7252]

UNLV has no choice but to join the Pac 12. You can thank Utah Stae for that one.

[@smileyr]

@@vegasmarc7252 Joining the pac 12 give you an opportunity to become a power 5 school very hard to turn down that opportunity if you are a school.

[@atgdcommish608]

The MWC is the closest geographically. And they did try to decapitate the AAC, but those teams were too chicken to make the leap.

[@pnwadventurer802]

Two leftover Power5 teams trying to stay relevant by joining with a bunch of un-relevant G5 teams. It's not going them status. OSU and WSU are over evaluating thier worth

[@atgdcommish608]

Boise State has been the top G5 brand for a long time. And Fresno State was always competitive with P5 teams too. And San Diego State is in a key TV market with a new stadium and is a good school.

[@BBallRambling]

I wouldn’t call it flopping. They are doing the best they can to get the best teams/school who are willing/able to move. And so far, this is it. But things will change. More teams will move. You may be eating your words soon if you aren’t careful.

[@STC987]

Yeah, if it was financially viable, I bet all the AAC schools would leave. They don’t want to pay 27 million dollars.

[@noelramirez1551]

They're f*cking stupid the teams that left the mountain west and think they're getting 10+ million

[@liljoe31]

obviously desperate and making a bad situation worse

[@BBallRambling]

@@liljoe31 Utah State makes the growth of the PAC 12 worse? Because their football team isn’t elite? The Utah media market is very valuable. Keeping continuity with familiar teams and rivalries is good. This PAC 12 is just as good as the ACC right now. This is not a bad thing in any way.

[@DavidM442]

“Flopping” because it is in public. Wise conference leaders arrange memberships in private snd announce at same time. This is such a mess!

[@stephenbarcus]

They just need to accept they aren't going to get the kind of money they want and just add some FCS schools

[@atgdcommish608]

Well, UNLV seems a little less shiny today... Too bad Memphis and Tulane didn't join the party, the Pac would have been the clear No. 5 FBS conference then. Seems like a missed opportunity by UTSA though. The Pac should add Texas State to get to the conference minimum of 8 teams, and then get really picky for the next 2 (or 4) additions,

[@STC987]

It’s not as big a deal as it’s made out to be. In the long run, it’s probably better. Memphis would be nice, but the others don’t add much. Tulane has been good for a few years, and before that were not very good. USF is too far to travel for all sports, and UTSA is new and doesn’t draw very well.

[@Stockton-24ms]

Dude did Utah state dirty by referring to them as a last resort option. Go Aggies!

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

That's how the Pac-12 treated them.

[@atgdcommish608]

They weren't the last resort, they were the backup plan. San Jose State is the last resort.

[@canelake34]

Great Show

[@RockSmithStudio]

I actually think it’s nice that we might see a regional conference in the Western US

[@miamea2]

To me i feel that the reason the AAC schools stayed is because of stability. They have a contract locked down till 2032. Foe them it makes more sense to stand pat, wait for the blood bath when the SEC and B10 go out to bid for media rights again. However, the Mountain West expires in 2 years. So if you're a Mountain West school what have you got to lose? You could get more money and play with bigger brands like OSU and WSU, or what play with a diminished MW? Sacramento State could be a good add to either conference due to media market. I think the PAC12 should add whom ever wants to join, or revisit a merger/disillusionment by adding more members.

[@paulmezzetta6905]

THE PAC-12 is Back!! Not So Fast.

[@KaelanF]

Tulane and Memphis made a mistake, they aren't as competitive or attractive as the pac12

[@Steveb57267]

I disagree, guess will let the CFP decide In a couple years. I guess my thinking is yes this is a slightly better football league than the AAC. But I predict the new pac is going to beat each other up and will have a 2 lost season consistently. This is why the old PAC wasn’t in the CFB until Washington pulled a great year.

[@SavedAndConfused]

I think the reason is it costs 25 mill for them to leave. So it's a hypothetical plan that costs a ton for them

[@MelvinHymas]

Let's call this what it is? This is a girl fight! And dudes love girl fights!

[@umbluegray1]

Wouldn't be surprised to see the American basketball tourney show up in Memphis at FedExForum in a couple of years. 😉

[@bsmithinthesip]

Boston college is better than Clemson it's going to be Miami and Boston college in acc championship

[@okolo22000]

Gloria Nevarez is clearly doing the job that George Kliavkoff should’ve done; be pro-active to changes going on with other conferences. That Big 10-Newscorp TV deal should’ve made the schools realize that the inevitable was coming sooner rather than later. Either one of the following must be the reason why all these schools rejected the Pac-State 7: 😂 1. Too much travel for the Central & Florida schools to go west so many times. Which makes me won why California & Stanford should be bound to that god-awful Grant of Rights deal especially since they don’t get their full share until 2027. 2. The AAC conference teams are waiting the ACC to be gutted so that some of these schools might get picked up there instead of going all the way out west. 3. They all simply don’t trust the leadership of the PAC so why take that risk for what might be a promise to obtain some limited relevancy. 4. Who knows if the AAC might believe that they’ll be a conference that’ll make more money in a new $10-15 million dollar TV deal if all the teams stay together. P.S.: Sacramento State & Texas State; just what the Pac needs: yet another State school to fully convey the PAC-State conference. Utah State… really? I feel like Hawaii isn’t even a bad idea there. I’m certain that the PAC conferences would love to go to Hawaii even though the travel expenses are quite brutal for any sport other than football.

[@shoichi8474]

This pac12 lawsuit against the mw is comical. What is the pac12 smells of panic right now.

[@delanesimmons5933]

That 730 Pacific kickoff time is 1030 for Miami. That may be what gets to the canes on this game. Especially considering they'll be playing to 130-2 in the morning on their time

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

I am curious to see what that betting line will be

[@cityhawk]

I think if the PAC 12 gets shafted by UNLV, Rice would be an underrated addition. Yes, it’s clear that they're not a football and basketball juggernaut, but they have a lot to add. Like what Vanderbilt is to the SEC, Rice could be to the PAC 12. An academically prestigious university in a huge media market (hell even bigger than Nashville) is a valuable get. Plus, the PAC 12 gets its footprints into Texas. Can't discount that. I'd be on the phone with Rice and see what they have to say. I wouldn't be waiting by the phone wondering what UNLV is going to say. Pick a lane and stay there.

[@mathewblood5113]

I do disagree with your assessment. I think they knew it was a long shot but they wanted to make a play anyway and see if they could work it out. It didn’t work out, so now it’s plan B: stay primarily out west. I’ve also read rumors that they might offer UCONN for football only if they agree to regular home and home games with the pac in basketball. Don’t know how true that is but would be interesting. I think they get UNLV for sure. I also think Gonzaga will be added ultimately.

[@emoney3912]

UConn is in talks with the Pac-12 as a football only member.

[@user-od3hf1rm9h]

I think what we are seeing are the four new schools voting rights. The four new schools now out vote WSU/OSU. The new schools may not have the patience that WSU/OSU have displayed and could be exhibiting their influence.

[@kellydixon6722]

Fsu has been very vical against stanford and cal joining ACC. Could mediation include ACC releasing Calford to appease FSU, allowing them back to the pac 12?

[@tiptoe38]

ACC is staying together,just offer the big schools more money.

[@baseballdude8491]

You flopped on your take The PAC will be the best group of 5 by end of thus season AAC has been gutted already Only 3 or 4 schools whi matter All the best group if 5 schools should go together and forma.suoer league with 2 or 4 divisions(20teams) They could get a good TV deal

[@MrMuppetLover]

Big deal, if MWC loses UNLV, that school plus the ones that left can easily be replaced by FCS schools.

[@atgdcommish608]

Good luck on that new TV deal for the bottom half of the MWC and a few FCS additions.

[@Tee-duck]

Ducks/ UW killed OSU/ WSU

[@atgdcommish608]

ESPN killed OSU/WSU, bribing the Big12 to the tune of 30M for each Pac team they poached, not to include OSU or WSU or Stanford or Cal.

[@vladdkristmanov3057]

Memphis and Tulane missed the train. Think small - be small. One has to think big to be big.

[@davidjones7493]

What is Tulane thinking?

[@FresnoState101]

I heard UCONN is in talks with the PAC! With that, they should go after JMU & APP ST.

[@seanbarron1759]

Let’s get back to football 😭 Pac-12 is a downer man lol why can’t my beavers do anything to give me confidence lol

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

They won 38-21!!

[@ramspencer5492]

Bummer

[@gop1386]

You lost me at the Mountain Weat going after the montana school. Sorry. No market. They would never compete.

[@MattBuild4]

Im pretty sure they literally beat a MWC team this year.

[@paulmezzetta6905]

USA Today, Dan Wolken, September 13, 2024, PAC-12 moving to add schools pointless

[@sdonnan09]

Memphis and tulane just waiting to see what extra money the aac is gonna bring. They still gonna end up leaving for the pac...

[@PhenomenalHebrew]

I don't think so, Tulane and Memphis ain't paying those exit fees.

[@derekwarr8567]

@@PhenomenalHebrew right, that was the deal breaker, 27 Million dollar exit fee

[@PCSPounder]

@@derekwarr8567 What if the exit fee pays for itself in 6 years? Not that we know.

[@liljoe31]

pac12 thinks they can make p4 revenue. in other words, smoking crack

[@scottyking7161]

How bout the MW dissolve by UNLV and UTAH ST join and that way no MW schools pay any exit fees and you give Memphis and tulane 10 mill each and they pay 17 million. FedEx will chip in 5 for Memphis. That would work. It will boost the TV revenue regardless of who says what because it's in the central time zone.

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

What Southern Utah didn’t get a call to be #7? What an opportunity the PAC-12 blew? At this point the PAC-12/MWC should just do a reverse merger.

[@Habitual_mufn]

1. Oregon State 2. Washington State 3. Boise State 4. Fresno State 5. San Diego State 6. Colorado State 7. Utah State 8. UNLV 9. Hawaii (FB) 10. Gonzaga (BB) PAC-10 Baby

[@Steveb57267]

I agree Hawaii would make sense for them. But it all hinges on UNLV

[@seanhyland4228]

Why would Gonzaga agree to be a part of that conference? That's not an upgrade from the WCC in terms of basketball

[@STC987]

Hawaii plays at a practice field. I would pass.

[@DayOneRob]

No way UNLV stays in the MW.

[@bradymoon1889]

Pac10 instead of 12 1. Oregon St 2. Washington St 3. Boise St 4. Fresno St 5. Colorado St 6. Utah St 7. San Diego St Add UNLV, Air Force and ND State (FCS) Mountain West 1. San Jose State 2. Nevada 3. Hawaii 4. New Mexico 5. Wyoming ADD UTEP, NM State, Sac St (FCS),

[@atkkeqnfr]

More click bait garbage from Locked On.

[@frictionhitch]

The PAC12 just won. You pay your exit fees cuz we can find roughly equal valued teams who will. I suspect the PAC pays for Memphis this week and says no one else gets exit fee help. Why buy 4 when you can buy just 1? No one outside of Memphis is worth it. Once Memphis joins everyone else that they want will pay their own way ala Utah State.

[@frictionhitch]

UNLV and UNM will pay their own way soon after the PAC buys Memphis.

[@frictionhitch]

The PAC will get to 12 and be the last to chew on the ACC. After the B1G, SEC, and BIG12 had had their share of the ACC what business man wants to touch that league? Who is going to give an unstable conference a good media deal? Are you all going to stick around on a prayer or bolt for a sure thing. The PAC learned this lesson the hard way. Did Oregon and Washington? Dominoes. 4 corners. Calford. Even OSU and Wazzu tried to get out. The ACC will not be in a position to invite anyone until after everyone else has eaten and they have those exit fees in hand. Meanwhile the PAC will have a media deal that I am certain will include clauses to increase revenue if they add ACC schools. There are 5 spots left and 1 belongs to Memphis. If you are a G5 school you better buy one while you still can.

[@liljoe31]

they won? replacing cal and stanford with boise st and san diego st? oook

[@frictionhitch]

@@liljoe31 They won by having Utah State pay its own way in. The PAC12 clearly already has, with or without Memphis, the best G5/6 league. You can join but they aren't paying your exit fees because they don't have to. Utah State just passed you up. You better get on the phone to your donors cuz the last of the PAC spots are filling up fast. If you don't wat to pay your exit fee there is an equal level G5 school available that will.

[@connorphillips4380]

This show is so tired

[@bullyear1973]

Have you tried 5 hours energy drink? It gives you enough energy to help you throughout your day. 5 hours energy drink is the drink I go to when I'm feeling tired and down

[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

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[@LockedOnCollegeFootball]

I got 8 hours of sleep last night I'm good

[@frictionhitch]

New Mexico has a larger population than Idaho and no one to root for. No NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS. The PAC has to be considering grabbing that market. It isn't fantastic but it is the largest market that you could hope to "own" and it pushes you toward Texas.

[@ReisterJP]

Yeah and most of the population in NM is closer to El Paso than Albuquerque. And Trans Pecos (west Texas) has a larger population than all of new mexico

[@frictionhitch]

@@ReisterJP The PAC isn't getting Texas Tech but UNM works fantastic to bridge the gap between the PAC and UTSA. I think UNLV, UNM, UTSA, and Memphis are in by November.

[@ReisterJP]

@frictionhitch tex tech what are you smoking? TECH IS NOT IN WEST TEXAS!!! Only Texas tech medical school in in el paso. You are thinking of Lubbock not El Paso. I was talking about UTEP a superior college to both UNM and NMSU

[@frictionhitch]

@@ReisterJP Quick google search reveals that the El-Paso MSA is just under 900k while the ABQ MSA is just over 1.1M. SO...k?

[@frictionhitch]

@@ReisterJP Seriouslt what are you smoking. Less people and competition from many other Texas sports teams for eyeballs. ABQ has more people than El-Paso and NO COMPETITION!

[@dr.edwardwilliam4689]

Add Gonzaga AF, Navy, Army and Uconn to Pac

[@romanmoronie]

Yeah, Im staying up till the wee hours of the mornin to watch Utah State and....uh....whoever.