Pacifica debates how to combat rising seas

[@bfranco1519]

Rising seas!? LOL Humans building on the edge of a sand cliff is the problem… Nobody should build within a 100-200 yards of the ocean.

[@xwarrrmongerx22]

Japanese people would laugh at you

[@hppavilionf50]

And now those living on the shoreline want everyone else to pay to protect their home .

[@alexwyler4570]

TS 2:00 The government is not drowning the town. The ocean wants to drown the town. The rest of us, the people who fund the government, do not want to put bilions to protect the right of a few privileged individuals who get to live an idyllic life while we are inland putting up with uncaring bosses. Maybe the guy should tell us how many hours we should work to protect his interests instead of complaining about the government. my edit?: the guy should make the sales pitch directly to us the taxpayer. What do we gain by him having a house by the sea shore when most workers are renting? Usually places that floods regularly make great campgrounds. Then the government need to only manage public toilets ( hygiene need) . so everyone can enjoy the seashore for very little money.

[@notsocommonsense8063]

You better let San Francisco know about this sea level rise, they are devolping Treasue Island. Will it be underwater in 10-15 years.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

Sea Levels are not rising. That is unscientific nonsense. Erosion is most definitely happening and has been happening forever (just like the Climate is always changing). Erosion however has essentially nothing to do with so called Climate Change. The Earth is not "warming". We are talking about infinitesimal changes which have been happening ever since Earth has existed. We could enter a Global Cooling State tomorrow depending on the Sun/ always changing Solar Radiation. Pacifica so-called "Leaders" should be focusing solely on things they can control and attempt to remediate: Erosion control (as they have done in some places). Erosion control is the only thing that can be done. So-called Global Warming or so-called Sea Level rise (neither of which are happening and neither of which humans have any control over or impact upon), are non-issues and completely irrelevant to the problems Pacific and many communities are facing. Wealthy people/ Globalist Bankers have literally nothing to do with this, other than they are the ones who invented Communism/ Marxism, the fraudulent Environmental Movement, and the Global Warming Conspiracy to destroy the Middle Class, Working Class, Poor, and to prevent developing nations from Developing. It's all about Population Control and Reduction. "God's Chosen People" (Zionism) believe they are destined to rule the entire world and gentiles were meant by God to be the slaves of the Jews (chattle, cannonfodder, human animals, expendable). They also invented and conceived the Eugenics Movement. Why? Because a smaller human population is easier to control. They have successfully killed off approximately 2 Billion of the human race through their Wars, Depressions, Recessions, Plandemics, and Terror Attacks. These are the facts I can tell you unequivocally after 20 years of research.

[@alexwyler4570]

@@notsocommonsense8063 Greed... it can not be stopped either😉

[@liberty-matrix]

Stop calling soil erosion, sea level rise!

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

These people are brainwashed with proven unscientific nonsense and are delusional (or paid off to promote these false narratives). The media is so damn complicit in promoting false Globalist Banker invented/ conceived/ innovated/ funded false narratives, conspiracies, false revisionist history, fear mongering, as FACT (total and complete MISINFORMATION), and yet these psychopathic irrational nutcases are the so-called "Fact Checkers" misleading/ lying to the People of the world.

[@rupunzel6299]

Nature will never be denied. Sea walls are a doomed idea, these walls causes vortices at the ends of the seal wall which concentrates the wave energy to the ends of the sea wall. Add to this the constant pounding from waves slowly pulverizes the sea wall, or how huge boulders and rocks are tuned into fine grains of sand. For any that have made the choice and decision to build a house and live that close to the ocean must accept the way nature is and will be, no exceptions. Change is constant, change is a given. Add to this Climate Change has greatly accelerated this problem where the land meets ocean falling bak into the ocean. This is not even a "battle" this "battle" is over long before it begun. Another example of humanoid arrogance and ego projected on the way nature with no exceptions.

[@DonXisco]

1:48 if ''THEY'' have their way... um, no, it's not they, it's Mother Nature.

[@bernieman4]

if these home were built on top of bedrock, like Alcatze, than it'll take millions of years to erode away the bedrock; but these sand dunes are far from being like bedrock!!! as soon as a bigger wave hits, tons of sand will start crumbling back down to the beach!!! it's like a bad relationship, the longer you wait to get out, the more pain you will feel when you actually see your house crumble down into the beach!

[@bernieman4]

There is no debating at all!!! the Pacific will reclaim some coastal land...just take a look at the soil conditions under these homes! These homes are basically built on top of un-consolidated / un-compacted sand!!! These sand have not even turn into sand stone yet! Just cut bait and move to higher grounds !

[@davidcarmack5074]

Maybe if Gruesome Newsom would stop dumping all of the water in the Ocean.

[@yournamehere6719]

Public money should not be spent to prop-up private profit, ie property values. There's a sweet old property on the north end of town, Dollar Radio. When it was built in the 1920's, it was over a hundred yards from the edge of the bluff. Slowly, but inevitably, the bluff has eroded to the face of the building, despite some heroic efforts to stabilize the bluff.. It's the same all along here: the soils are too soft to hold against the wave action. 3 feet per year average, the math is not hard.

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

This erosion has been ongoing for EONS (since millions or billions of years before humans existed), and has nothing whatsoever to do with Humans or a so-called always changing Climate.

[@crowpvpgod4537]

You could help yourselves by making an effort to remove ice plant and restore native Dudleya and other California deep rooted native plants. Ice plant has super shallow roots and holds down no soil.

[@johnkoziel789]

It’s an erosional feature. It will continue to erode, until there is nothing left to erode. If you choose to live in a dynamic area, then prepare yourself for the drama that may just appear in your lifetime. Otherwise, sell and move before it is plainly obvious.

[@alexwyler4570]

The homeowners enjoyed their time by the beach . be grateful you had that time. a house by the beach is not an investment, it is an experience😉 any future manmade defense will damage people who were not affected by this issue initially. So take it like a man, rent the house out to try to get as much as cash as you can then it is over. Not all houses can be investments.

[@omarks]

Erosion is not 'rising seas'

[@nati7728]

What causes the erosion genius?

[@omarks]

@@nati7728 Tides

[@joevarga5982]

@@nati7728 Tides, and CRASHING WAVES, Einstein. The ocean level goes up and down about TWELVE feet daily.

[@notsocommonsense8063]

These fools don't understand what you are saying. Do they think the city of SF would issue permits to develop Treasue Island if it was going to be under water in 10 to 15 years. Do the fools think developers would be spending millions/billions of dollars if the island will be under water in 10 to 15 years. The insurance companies would never insure the buildings if they were going to be under water.

[@copyprint-fz2hb]

@@nati7728 let me guess you voted for Kamala

[@PDog170inDaytona]

California has had water problems for years. I don’t understand why they are not multiple desalinization plants running off of solar power at this point. But that’s the way it is some people don’t do anything until it’s a tragedy. And then they scream what happened?

[@jsEMCsquared]

I built the home at 45 clarendon and beach. I put 44 piers under that house with 3foot by 8 inches grade beams all with 5/8 schedule 60 rebar and a 7 sack cement mix. It will be the last house standing! Maybe an island someday.

[@lukeisagiantsfan]

"Managed retreat" cannot be a taboo term in Pacifica. Boles is a pragmatist amidst a population of stubborn curmudgeons.

[@notsocommonsense8063]

You need to let the city of San Francisco know about this sea level rising problem emeidietly, they are issuing permits to develop Treasurer Island. This is outrageous!!!!!

[@MrGaryGG48]

@@notsocommonsense8063 It must have been a problem back in 1939 when the Golden Gate International Exposition was held in San Fransisco. They built Treasure Island for that Exposition and had a "lip" around the island to keep it from flooding but I'm not certain what year that feature was created. There used to be a small airstrip across the island. I believe it ran east/west at the time. I was stationed on T.I. for two years in the late '60s while attending the Navy Electronics School. There was a pool about 30' across that was a tiled display of the Exposition. I don't know if it's still there. The Palace of Fine Arts, over near the Golden Gate Bridge, was also built for that Expo.

[@rocketmanpm]

This article is based on a false premise: "sea level rise". I'm a geologist. My view of the earth's natural processes is gauged in millennia, not in Taylor Swift tour intervals. Head-ward erosion is a natural occurence once one builds on escarpments exposed to weather. Additionally, the West Coast is one massive subduction zone with tectonic activity both raising and lowering exposed terraine. Rather than buying into the latest climate change industry porn, one needs to examine what happens to land masses (and yes, climate) over geologic time. That's the real scare - just in case you plan to live several thousand years. This article was written by 12-year olds....

[@notsocommonsense8063]

Thank you for bringing some not so common sense to this conversation.

[@copyprint-fz2hb]

@@notsocommonsense8063 he's spot on

[@MrGaryGG48]

The common sense expressed by "Rocketman" is only "uncommon" to the portion of the world's population that is absorbed in this whacked out "religion" of CLIMATE CHANGE IS COMING!! The climate is changing. It has always been changing and I would assume, it will keep changing long after we're all gone. The waves will keep breaking on the shoreline and Phoenix will continue to be hotter than the main street through Hell in the summer time. The hands on the "Geological Time Piece" move very slowly but they're always moving and the climate is always changing...

[@Terrakinetic]

He lost me when he said, "it will last forever." 2:08 What he really means is that it will last until he passes away.

[@SandDabs]

Do you mean to tell us that sea cliffs erode? 😱

[@skyisfalling8173]

WTF? Does that guy think we CAN stop the ocean rising? LOL but not funny

[@sambone1762]

Instead of doing articles about “sea level rise”, maybe the Chronicle can look into the death of Suchir Balaji?

[@michaelmacpherson-wm6mh]

they should have put the buildings on train tracks, then as the yard disappears you just push it away from the cliff

[@tinadiesman5442]

How about stop building so close to the beach.

[@swamirivers980]

Stop whining - greedy developers built houses on sand - take the consequences like Canute.

[@shawneddy3740]

You can't hold back the sea with a broom.

[@rprw1041]

SFC you are a joke How about spending your resources on the LA 🔥 And giving this BS a break

[@franklinj1038]

I'm Sure Newsom will Save you ✔️ SoCal

[@AAA-o4g]

Where else in the world the seas are "rising "?

[@philiphorner31]

Plymouth Rock is underwater!!!! O M G YOU'RE RIGHT IM WRONG. .... Uhm pssst ...yes okay... Belay my last. The rock is still out of the water. This post is a pant load.

[@trinity4286]

How about fill beaches with sand?

[@lukeisagiantsfan]

That's called "beach nourishment," and it's less effective than you'd think. Over time, adding more sand to beaches causes the land to sink at a faster rate and it has negative impacts on sea life in the zone closest to the shoreline.

[@smsfelipe]

Artificial reefs

[@user-bc9tp6tu4b]

California 😂

[@robertmanella528]

There is no answer! They built in to close to the ocean!