We're Doing The Clutch Adjustment On My Harley Davidson Panhead Again!

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Pacific Mike

Pacific Mike

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@leibstandartejager8582
@leibstandartejager8582 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you are ever boring. Teaching us all the true way of general maintenance. We ❤️ U. 🇨🇦
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. But I do bore myself sometimes.
@dannywright8021
@dannywright8021 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Mike very good one I ride a fatboy I need clutch work lol
@ericlitalien8360
@ericlitalien8360 Жыл бұрын
I admire people working and taking the time to explain these young super-bikes, how fantastic! Thanks for sharing Mike! Hope to see you on the road some day!!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
I hope so too!
@Emptybtlswhiskithrtls
@Emptybtlswhiskithrtls 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike. You are a bank of knowledge. I've been tinkering with shovels about thirty years, and still learning a lot , thanks to you. From your Georgia friend, " Dawg!!!"
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. The learning goes on forever. In that thirty years, you've learned a lot. I'm sure you could show me something.
@MikeRidesDaily
@MikeRidesDaily 4 жыл бұрын
Restoring my dad's old pan, you're always my go to Mike. Thanks a bunch for your videos.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. I hope your dad feels honored. If he is with us or not, do him proud.
@Road-Worthy
@Road-Worthy 4 жыл бұрын
Life gets in the way.. you're voice is so distinct. I walked by you a couple times in separate rooms at the gnrs every time I heard your voice I stopped and told the wife hey I watch that dude on KZbin.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Stop and say hello please. I truly appreciate you. And, the show was great!
@mranthonye
@mranthonye 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your video’s and love them. Your old school technology is what people learn from. Thank you for sharing
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Ftruckn
@Ftruckn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, delivery was perfect From the Southern Hemisphere- We salute you 🇦🇺
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@anthiber
@anthiber 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Got my 66 back on the road after watching this video. Keep em coming!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@devimead750
@devimead750 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, couldn't have come at a better time as I have just bought a new set of Barnett clutch plates and springs for my 64 Panhead.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Cool. Be sure you look at our other videos on four speed dry clutches. Just go to our KZbin channel and click on "videos." They'll be easy to find.
@ironearl69
@ironearl69 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I just had apart a '68 FLH as it had some starter issues. Had a mix match of parts; one being the wrong year clutch shell ('70 and +). I put in a '65 - '69 clutch shell and reused the clutch plates after inspecting them and cleaning them. I adjusted springs first to 1-1/32" as per manual without having the pushrod adjusting screw tight. Next I set the clutch arm to about 1/2" from the starter, then backed off the adjusting screw 1'8" and tightened the locknut. Then adjusted the clutch cable/hand lever to have approx. 1/4" play. I pulled the hand lever in several times and noted that the pressure plate was likely coming out 1/4" or maybe 5/16". I sat on the bike then and put it in gear and pushed it forward with the hand lever fully in (to disengage the clutch) and it was dragging considerably. The clutch shell looked in good shape and the studs on the clutch hub I sanded and were in good shape, so what could be wrong to not allow the clutch to fully disengage? Is it likely to be that I need to drill out the ten holes per plate on the friction discs ab extra 1/32"?? Any thoughts would be appreciated and I know you enjoy making clutches work well so thought I would ask. Thank you. Darren.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Please realize, although I try, can't see it from here. First, are the plates separating evenly all the way around. Sometimes the springs don't always have even tension and the three studs may need to be tightened unequal amounts in order to compensate. If the plates are not sliding well because the holes the studs (fingers) pass through are not smooth, drill oversize 1/64th, not 1/32nd. You don't need a full 1/4" in that lever. An eighth or less may be the answer. A lot of people used to figure a nickle"s thickness where the lever touches the perch. Do not get a non-mousetrap unit confused with a mousetrap. I'm assuming no mousetrap. Last mousetrap was 1967. But I have installed them on later models.
@ironearl69
@ironearl69 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you Mike for your thoughts; I know you are a busy guy. I guess I should secure the handlever in the fully closed position and then measure the distance between the release disc and clutch friction disc to see if it is opening equally and if not adjust? No mousetrap Mike and BTW I am using the correct springs for '68 and up and I am using a 5 stud hub. Thanks again.
@joesurfer9754
@joesurfer9754 4 жыл бұрын
​@@ironearl69 I could be wrong but I was always taught those 5 stud clutch hubs were more for drag racing and the three stud clutch hubs were better for normal use for disengagement purposes. I personally think you can't diagnose if it is disengaging right unless you start it and ride it.
@garylight4810
@garylight4810 7 ай бұрын
Aloha Mike... I have been building British bikes for a long time and just picked up a 49 Fl which is my first HD. Some things about the bike were not as designed so been putting it back to stock configuration. Of course I bought a manual but it almost isn't needed now that I found you. I really enjoy your videos!!! Keep on keeping on....
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 7 ай бұрын
Thank You. Have fun with it.
@warrenp2022
@warrenp2022 3 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for putting up these informative videos. Just watched this one tonight, re-did my Panhead clutch again after changing the transmission sprocket a couple of weeks ago. I also have the Barnett aluminum clutch friction discs in mine, very good product, I've been using them in my Pan since 1998. I noticed that the friction discs were not making full contact against the steel plates by the wear pattern on the friction material. So since I was not in a hurry I set up my 1/2 inch thick glass panel for flat sanding with 220 grit sandpaper and rubbed each friction disc on that until I had a perfectly flat contact surface. It made a real difference in the feel of the clutch even using my foot(suicide) clutch and jockey shift. Now it is in contact or not in contact, none of the grabbing or incomplete release I had before which makes shifting much nicer. I also use a Zodiac Tamer Kit that holds the clutch basket from moving out, I run a belt drive also.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. There are so many products out there and when you find a system that you like, you've won the battle. Got a few myself.
@glsandlin2222
@glsandlin2222 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy and appreciate all of your posts. I know its a lot work making quality videos. Thanks, very informative
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you and your opinion.
@jamesking9072
@jamesking9072 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I asked you about a clutch issue I was having and wanted to let you know that I purchased a new clutch and went back to the stock circulating system. I built this bike, a 1978 fxe 74 ci over the winter and your videos were there when I got in a bind and didn't quite understand something . Thank you for your response and your very well done videos!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
That's wonderful. Thank You. And may you and your Shovelhead enjoy many pleasureable years together.
@leibstandartejager8582
@leibstandartejager8582 5 жыл бұрын
Another informative video. Brothers forever.🇨🇦
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@frnktdmn1937
@frnktdmn1937 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your expertise Mike. I was going to post about my grabbing clutch problem but did not want to duplicate a previous poster so I srcoled thru the clutch posts and discovered the post from Dan McCarthy _ same issues. My 2" open primary conversion to my '73 shovel would not disengage the mainshaft. It drove me nuts because I had already done two 1.5" belt conversions successfully. Your advice for drilling out the clutch plates with 25/64 bit did the TRICK! I am so freakin happy with my recent bobber build.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. That makes me feel really good.
@Hoyt1911A1
@Hoyt1911A1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Mike. As far as plate brands go a little over twenty years ago I put a set of Barnett plates into the clutch of my Shovelhead. I think once in that time I cleaned them like you are doing here after a carb tweak added a few HP and it started slipping. Haven't had to monkey with them since. I don't know if Barnett is still around but this video made me think of them. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. I live in a rural area in Southern Virginia and the last old timer around these parts that really knew these old bikes passed away a few years ago. Your videos are very helpful to those of us all alone in the wilds trying to keep our old iron healthy.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. We used to have to figure it out every time we added more horsepower. Tighten those springs some more. Now, if you didn't have one before, you'd be thankful for a foot clutch now. However, Barnett is very much still in business and still family owned. Their factory is in Ventura California. Still making great stuff.
@richardziegler213
@richardziegler213 7 ай бұрын
Had a 65 panhead back in the 70s that had a problem with the clutch plates becoming soaked with oil . Apparently the chain oil wasn't getting suckrd back into the engine . 🤔 Love your videos thankyou 👍
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 7 ай бұрын
You're probably right. I've done so many of those, I had to learn them. Just another day at the office.
@electricstartclint
@electricstartclint 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new video! Keep up the good work!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@chemdawg9893
@chemdawg9893 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge mike.....happy New year
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and Happy New Year.
@cebuwho9564
@cebuwho9564 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike for another great workshop night love watching your videos if I have a problem I can always go to your videos to teach me how to god bless you
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@cebuwho9564
@cebuwho9564 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I hope someday I can meet you in person I have a great deal of respect for you
@joebehanna5894
@joebehanna5894 4 жыл бұрын
Mike , thanks so much for your expert instructions they have helped me to become a much better wrench and my old shovelhead thanks you too. Your awesome bruh ! I have an aunt who lives in Riverside cali
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. Is she single and attractive? I mean that most respectfully.
@joebehanna5894
@joebehanna5894 4 жыл бұрын
No man she isn't
@tomconners8497
@tomconners8497 4 жыл бұрын
I ran the Barnett clutch Assy. and Phase 3 open primary combo on my stock 80” shovel. Your triggering a little trip down memory lane with your vids Pacific Mike :).
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Yah, it was and is fun stuff.
@tomconners8497
@tomconners8497 4 жыл бұрын
Pacific Mike I mean to say that, the engine was the stock 80” first one, I bought it from the factory 1980. I had already gotten a 57 pan head frame, and a couple of damaged wide glides that fixed up into a good one. I like the new efi harleys , they are Bullit proof. Maybe to good, could be part of California Harley economic woes. Got the new Aircraft spec brakes that were coming out. Yeah nostalgia is a big part of my everyday world these days😂
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU...for sharing. Watched and very much enjoyed. Always a thumb up.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@timothyputzke1250
@timothyputzke1250 5 жыл бұрын
Wishing you and your family a Healthy Happy New Year. Thank you for the Great Videos.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and, wishing you and yours the same.
@craiganderson3170
@craiganderson3170 5 жыл бұрын
putting the extra steel in by the hub basket is the best idea. I ruined a brand new hub basket recently. but it was repairable by putting in the steel.
@Shovel1978
@Shovel1978 5 жыл бұрын
Did putting the extra steel up against the basket change the way it grabbed? I've never heard of this before, and am getting ready to install new BDL drive
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Easy fix. Thank you.
@716Harleyjoe
@716Harleyjoe 5 жыл бұрын
great lessons Mike, I own shovelheads, a 72 fx, a 78 flh and a 82 flh. My question is keep the chain primary or go belt drive. I like to keep stuff stock for higher values, thanks
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I like belt drives on kick start bikes and I like chain drives on electric start bikes. Just my preference.
@caspar0777
@caspar0777 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike! A little bit long, but what a pleasure to watch and listen 😎 A little thing I do is I drill the clutch plate holes just a bit bigger, so they slide easier to come free. It make more noise, but what a fun to hear. Cheers from France
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I do the same thing, depending on the size of the holes. Most clutch plates are stamped out and the tooling gets old. The holes aren't round as they should be. When I get that, I drill them out 1/64th over the intended 3/8". Don't go to big, and, no noise.
@caspar0777
@caspar0777 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Hi Mike, on my shovelhead I've fit a "York" clutch, that works realy marvelous, have ou heart about them?
@keepitreal1394
@keepitreal1394 5 ай бұрын
Wow Mike look at all your views man. Been watching for years love you man. Ride free, Panheads heck yeah
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 ай бұрын
Thank You.
@bartsimpson4122
@bartsimpson4122 3 жыл бұрын
It's so good knowing there's still old school bike mechanics, koodos!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@johneckstrom6253
@johneckstrom6253 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Doll is absolutely beautiful thank you I was wondering what was in the bottle and couple minutes you answered what I had just thought I had to laugh...Thank You Pacific Mike M love & Respect to you....John E.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@lawrest9561
@lawrest9561 4 жыл бұрын
I learn volumes from you. Thank you.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@jobuck893
@jobuck893 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man hope to see more and more of them Thank You
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@scrumthebum2451
@scrumthebum2451 4 жыл бұрын
Best move I ever made on my 81 fxs was get rid of stock clutch & compensator. Replaced with BDL pro clutch kit wit sold sprocket & chain. It uses the solid Evo style sealed bearings. Much less vibration & clutch never slips
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Very Cool.
@dahun78
@dahun78 8 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, this was absolutely awesome. Watching from Western Australia 🍻
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jons7250
@jons7250 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Encouraged to pull mine apart as the bike does not want to down shit from third. The plates are a bit grooved and one plate has some rust as though it was stuck to the fiber disk. So I guess the whole system should be replaced?? Even the basket has some grooving and a bit of oil. I wish pictures could be posted!! Maybe I'll clean it up and see how it performs, but the grooving is not going away without a lathe.............
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes they clean up and work fine. Somes times they don't. New stuff is always cool, but not always necessary or economically feasible. Look it over. Get a feel for how it works. This is the learning proccess.
@jons7250
@jons7250 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I’ll clean it up and give it a shot. One conundrum I have is that my case is stamped as a 1940 WLA. That’s a very unusual and unlikely model. I’m thinking it’s actually a 1941 up clutch but don’t really know how to confirm that without buying parts….. I see a lot of parts listed for 1941 and up, but not for 1940.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 ай бұрын
You'll need parts for a WLA. Don't buy parts for a Big Twin.
@burner234
@burner234 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Somehow I missed the part showing all the lesser informed how to load the springs on the pressure plate with the adjusting screw and washer. Some people think their springs are going flying on removal. Maybe it was in a previous video. Cheers
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 8 ай бұрын
I have shown it, but, lay the releasing disc smooth side down and put the springs in place, all ten in a circle with their respective holes in alignment with each spring. Now, lay the pressure plate on top of the springs. Depending on the clutch hub you're using, there will be either three or five of those holes shaped for adjusting nuts. Don't worry about them, they will register when installing the releasing disc onto the hub, later. Now lay a large flat washer or a Shovelhead valve spring retainer over the large center hole in the pressure plate. The washer should have a 3/8 hole in the center or size it down with a small washer over the big one. Now, install the center adjusting screw and put the locknut on it. Tighten the lock nut some and the whole thing is in one piece. After you install it with all of the three or five stud adjusting nuts, you can remove the center locknut and take out the large flatwasher.
@jonhaddican268
@jonhaddican268 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together. I have a 49 I'm going to have questions about. PEACE
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Hope I can help.
@Jim_Berry
@Jim_Berry 5 жыл бұрын
Good video! Enjoyed it! I would love to see a twin cam video.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think I have to seal up a twin cam inner primary this week end. Hope I have a camera guy.
@warrenp2022
@warrenp2022 3 жыл бұрын
Part 2: Since I use the Zodiac Tamer Kit in my Pan 4 speed clutch the clutch basket cannot be removed without first removing the clutch hub nut. Makes it difficult to remove without using an air impact tool and almost impossible to use the correct torque when installing the hub nut. So I made up this tool from an old clutch friction disc and clutch steel using three 1/4 inch bolts to hold them together, make sure you center them. I drilled the holes in the steel and inserted them together into the clutch, centered them and started drilling the holes in the friction disc, finish drilling the holes on the bench. To use it just remove all clutch plates, insert tool into clutch all the way in to the base of the fingers, now the hub and basket are locked together. I run a belt so I made a steel bar to lock the pulleys and once that is in place everything is locked. I was going to attach pictures but can't figure out how, sorry.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thank You.
@Shovel1978
@Shovel1978 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, so are you adding a extra steel plate to the stack? Does the metal on metal still engage/grab the same? Just received a new BDL system and don't want to hurt anything. I've never seen this done before
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
The bottom fiber either engages on the inner surface of the basket itself, or it engages against a steel plate that is protecting the basket. It's a very common old way of doing it. If you let the fiber plate engage with the basket, it tends to wear and gall in there. Next time you take it apart, you might say, "I don't like that," and add a steel plate, or not. No harm, no foul. Just remember, if you add a steel plate, you may have to grind the edges and remove the buffers so it can bottom completely flat in the basket.
@wyattgomes6972
@wyattgomes6972 4 жыл бұрын
great video, very informative. Thanks so much for doing this and taking the time to teach everyone. cant wait to watch more videos of yours
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. We do have a bunch of videos, already available to you. Just ggo to KZbin, then pacific mike. Then click on "videos."
@rp75heavy
@rp75heavy 5 жыл бұрын
U can also use a top shock washer, to retain those spring s
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Or a large flatwasher stacked with a small flatwasher, or something from the hardware store. It's fun to be creative. That old valve spring retainer has been used on old cluches for over forty years. Don't tell her there's a cheap replacement for her.
@thatsmrharley2u2
@thatsmrharley2u2 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I've always used an old Chevy fender shim. Works perfectly.
@mihaibalais8864
@mihaibalais8864 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, good sir! Your guidance was invaluable.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. That's great to hear.
@CapnDrift
@CapnDrift 4 жыл бұрын
I've been riding and wrenching on my (chopped) '62FL for forty years and learned something when you started with the steel. Further more, I just replaced a BDL basket because of the friction disc gouging you mention. Question for you, Mike: instead of replacing the basket could I have just dropped a (corner shaved) steel in? Also, would you do me a favor and if you haven't put the outer on yet, or have an old Pan basket lying around measure the depth? Shovels are deeper?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could have put a plate i there. But, as you ask, the difference in depth can be from Manufacturer to manufacturer. There are also bunches of manufacturers of clutch plates. The stacks vary in height. I've gone through piles of used stuff to come up with different combinations to suit the applications. I don't know what BDL"s depth is.
@CapnDrift
@CapnDrift 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I wasn't asking the BDL depth. I've the old one laying on the back porch. I was asking what stock (Pan) is. That I don't have any longer (it's lost or buried). The thing is, my basket doesn't have room for an extra steel. I suppose I could run a 1/2 disc at the release plate. Or maybe I'm just over thinking it (shrug). And an after note: It just dawned on me you aren't running a stock primary either. Still, if you've a stock one lying around or have the opportunity to measure a customer's I'd be interested in knowing how deep it is. Just because, I guess. Thanks. Yes, they call me "Drift." ☺
@BudzzableRides
@BudzzableRides 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I just stumbled across your ch. today. Sure glad I did, I have an 86 evo with a 4 speed.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Hopefully, I can be of service.
@julianbrook-owen9107
@julianbrook-owen9107 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Mike. By watching your vids I managed to build my 74 fxe from boxes... She's a real eye catcher now. Thanks. If you have a email I can send you pics. Currently I have a strange whinning noise in third... So I'm on the lookout for related vids. Cheers again. J
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. Sorry, I need to figure out the picture thing on the Channel. That "whinining" noise in third gear is probably the "third gear" bushing. It comes from riding around in third gear all the time. Probably spent it's life riding around town. Look it up in your service manual. I said "probably" and a "long distance" diagnosis may not be correct. It's a big job, of course, to pull the trans and rebuild it, but not a lot of money in parts if the gears are all good.
@1381greg
@1381greg 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid....very similar to my 99 with a BDL open set up.....Thanks.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@stevemoniz8690
@stevemoniz8690 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, great videos! When adjusting my shovelhead clutch it seems that the freeplay in the clutch arm after adjusting the screw gets taken away when cable adjustment is made. Should I be holding the arm back so the cable doesn't pull it into engagement with the throwout bearing?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
I think you have no freeplay up at the hand lever, or you need to lube that clutch cable. Take it loose from the hand lever and run something down inside, then wait and do it again several times. A good cable lube product or even "Break Free."
@stevemoniz8690
@stevemoniz8690 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 new clutch cable fully lubed. Should the clutch arm have a spring attached to pull it away from the throwout bearing like cars do?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
No. There should be clearance between the adjusting screw and the clutch pushrod. It's asking you for a thorough inspection to see what's hanging it up. It could be the pushrod or the throwout bearing .Time to get in there.
@stevemoniz8690
@stevemoniz8690 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike for taking time to answer me. All the parts were trashed, bearing, pushrod end & adjusting screw tip too. I ordered all new heavy duty stuff. Thanks again.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
I had a feelin'. Been there. Be sure to allow a little gap between the adjusting screw and the pushrod, just a little, and grease all the ends.
@deadheadlights
@deadheadlights 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Happy 2020!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Happy 2020! Thank you and, Is this the start of the "Roaring Twenties?"
@deadheadlights
@deadheadlights 5 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 haha it is im afraid. Lots of Roaring and tyre smoke!
@chadstitz5687
@chadstitz5687 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, I absolutely love the videos. Keep them coming. My 58 Panhead hemorrhages oil. They all do, but yours does not! Please enlighten me. PS the chain Oiler has been capped off
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the breather tube coming out of the crankcase into the primary? If os, there's your problem. Look at the service manual and find the screw on the oil pump that controls the amount of oil that comes out of that breather tube. Now, close down that screw (just tighten it until it bottoms). Now, open that beather tube. If it's noot breathing, your engine is building up all kinds of destructive pressure.
@chadstitz5687
@chadstitz5687 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I will give that a go and get back to you. Thank you!
@bobpeters6532
@bobpeters6532 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! Great videos on clutch disassembly and cleaning! The clutch on my '77 Shovelhead wasn't engaging properly, so I removed the primary cover to have a look. Turns out when I work the clutch lever, the left side of the clutch basket moves out, but the right side hardly moves at all. The clutch springs seem to be relatively even, but I'll take measurements and adjust them evening just to be sure. Can you tell me what's causing the uneven movement of the clutch basket? Thanks!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
If everything is cleaned and lubed properly, the basket should stay still. Look at all of our stuff on clutches. Just hit the "videos" button. There are several videos on the old dry clutches.
@chadhamann8315
@chadhamann8315 Жыл бұрын
Was wondering if you could please do a video on how to setup the rocker pedal assembly and linkage adjustments so that everything works as designed.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
There's stuff in there on that. Go to KZbin. Type in Pacific Mike. When the Homepage comes up, click on the word "videos." There's about 275 videos. Plenty of stuff you're looking for. Look at the videos on my red Panhead (Baby Doll).
@kennyadamson5969
@kennyadamson5969 4 жыл бұрын
If Bob Ross was introduced to motorcycles instead of paint as a kid! I could watch these videos all day!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
He really was special.
@bobhartman2571
@bobhartman2571 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice Mike. Thanks.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@1955porsche
@1955porsche Жыл бұрын
very thorough ,,i need this ,,cant get my 1936el adjusted right,,always engaged wont disengage.. very impressed.. i will start w a steel disc like u did see if that solves my no disengaging issue
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
"Clean" works on most of it.
@jons7250
@jons7250 Ай бұрын
How do you get the oil out of a 1940s three bolt WL transmission? I did not see a drain plug. I’m hoping one doesn’t have to bring it back out of the fill hole.
@balmori.hangarage
@balmori.hangarage 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Micke!!! I guess you like to service your clutch because the look like the 45 rpm acetate disk with all the good music of the good days!!! best regards as always!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do!
@brianwatson5435
@brianwatson5435 4 жыл бұрын
I just put in new clutch hub, friction discs, aluminum releasing disc and springs. The Barnett springs are 50 lbs @ 1-1/8”, and appear to be somewhere around a 1/4” shorter than stock. Does that affect the measurement I would set between my pressure plate and my releasing disc versus what the manual would state for stock springs?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
You say, "Shorter than stock." By whose calculations? What years are the new springs intended for? You mentioned "an aluminum releasing disc." Are you measuring the spring length from the disc surface? I believe the springs are seated in the "counterbores" of that disc. Be sure you're counting that counterbore in the length of the spring.
@brianwatson5435
@brianwatson5435 4 жыл бұрын
The springs are Barnett (part #501-66-10041) which the site says will fit my 71 flh. The springs that were in my clutch, which I can only assume are stock length, though I have only owned the bike for 6 years, are longer than the new ones. The Barnett’s are a hair under 1.5” and the ones I pulled out are 1.72” with my fancy digital caliber. As for measurement location, I prefer to measure from the plate, versus the counterbores for convenience reasons. The depth of the counterbores look to be about 0.340” (11/32”?) deep.
@brianwatson5435
@brianwatson5435 4 жыл бұрын
So I found my answer and thought I would share. The springs are actually for 67 or earlier clutch assemblies, whereas I have a 71. Apparently the earlier assemblies used 3 1/2 friction plates with stiffer springs and had the mousetrap to assist. After 68 we have 5 plates and they ditched the mousetrap. I’m sure you know all this but I dint want you to chase an answer unnecessarily. All the sites I visited state they are compatible. I set it up with the spacing set in the manual as the Barnett rep told me to. The clutch hub nuts are not on a lot, as they are flush with the studs. But they are not loose and I hit them with a dab of blue locktite. Works really well, and I don’t really notice the increased tension as I run a foot clutch. Thanks.
@patrickmalloy7881
@patrickmalloy7881 4 жыл бұрын
Mike great videos!!!! I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place but could you make a video on assembly and then adjusting the friction discs in a rocker clutch? Kind of like how you did the mouse trap video only this time with the rocker clutch?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I do show adjusting the shifter on my Panhead. I think it's there. I know I already showed it. Maybe it's on a clutch video.
@wcjones1010
@wcjones1010 4 жыл бұрын
Mike I've watched all of your clutch videos, I haven't seen anything on how to adjust the rocker clutch setup, especially as detailed as the mouse trap video is. Rocker clutch transmission adjustment video would be great.
@jamesf.mcdonoughjr.9721
@jamesf.mcdonoughjr.9721 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Thank you for all the videos and experience, as you teach from your home garage! also just love it when something doesn't go perfect for you, it makes you more real. OK enough brown nosing! I restored a 1981 Sturgis about 10 yrs ago, and it only has about (11,000 Mi.) clutch and transmission shifted like butter but had a little clutch chatter till warm. Thinking a warped plate I put in a new clutch plates and steel plates this time with anti rattle balls; chatter gone but cant find neutral when running now?? cant seem to dial in the adjustment, followed service manual but without success!!! Haven't had this happen on any other shovels I own; could you do a video on how to adjust properly, my best Jim
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have one of those transmissions with the "Astrodome lid." But, if you look in the service manual for the clutch adjustment, you'll see a 13/16" measurement off of the top of the lid, to the clutch release lever. Quite possibly, your issue. Another possible issue would be the fiber plates not sliding easily on the clutch hub "fingers." This happens with a lot of aftermarket plates after their dies have been used a few million times. If such is the case, I drill out the holes in the plates 1/64th of an inch over the original 3/8ths. Then they slide easily.
@jamesf.mcdonoughjr.9721
@jamesf.mcdonoughjr.9721 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you Mike, I didn't check for a reply until just now 9:35 am East coast ( Rhode Island smallest state in the union ) I thought If i received an answer; mite be weeks. I use a small block of wood with Formica on one side 13/16" in between arm and tranny while I start my adjustment on it. I think your advice to drill my be my answer and will try that. I'm a 1951 model (be 71) in a couple of weeks; so probably not a whole lot of tread left on my tires LOL. I truly appreciate what you are doing Mike, Keep it shinny side up!! Jim
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You, you got plenty tread left. We both do.
@danmccarthy3342
@danmccarthy3342 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Mike... I have a 1980 Shovelhead FLT (mostly stock)... primary converted to dry belt drive, and my clutch has been 'grabby'... where is catches unexpectedly while slowly release the handle. I completed a full service (using your video)... QUESTION: Do you ever 'lightly grease' the fingers of the clutch basket so the plates 'slide easier'? Thanks.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
NO. But I've used a lot of different brands of clutch plates. Usually, they are stamped out. That's fine, after years of using the same tooling, the 3/8" holes for the "fingers" aren't quite nice any more. I go 1/64th" over on all of those ten holes in each plate. I use a drill press. Go slow and don't hurt yourself. The other thing is to make sure those fingers are smooth.
@Nickolas64
@Nickolas64 4 жыл бұрын
Got a clutch question if you don't mind since I seen this video. The 73 FLH I just got I noticed after taking the primary off has a sifton diaphragm clutch in it. Are you familiar with these? What I'm wondering now is the proper way to adjust it .
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't done one of those. But, I can tell you where it comes from and you can probably get instructions from the supplier. Tedd Cycle, better known as V-Twin in New York, owns the name "Sifton" after the Late Great, Mr. Tom Sifton. They manufacture and sell parts using that name. They're also some pretty nice folks. I would either contact them direct or go through your local shop to them.
@Nickolas64
@Nickolas64 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 OK thanks. I actually read somewhere to adjust it for a 85-90 FX/Softail. I screwed the cable all the way in until full slack then adjusted the distance from ratchet to starter at 1/2", turned the screw in on clutch rod adjustment till touches then out 1/8", locked it down and then adjusted the slack out of the cable to 1/16" free play on clutch lever for the hand. Seems to work OK and goes into neutral easily. No creep in first gear sitting so maybe it's good. I need to get out on the road to see how it operates. This Trans shifts easy into first and fourth but second and third is a full throw and firm. Maybe it's set up to shift that way ? These trans with straight cut gears reminds me of the Muncie rock crusher m22 four speeds in the old gm muscle cars I used to drive long ago. I'm not that familiar with these and how they shift . When fresh rebuilt are they easy to shift or just naturally clunky? The later 5 speed in the 01 FLH I had was easy to shift but this four speed you have to give it a firm shift to get it in gear...
@Nickolas64
@Nickolas64 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Tell you one thing the pull on this clutch is very strong on this Sifton. Id like to put a mousetrap setup on it to ease the pull. Love the look of those contraptions and it would give it a little more style for me. That's what I need as I get trigger finger at times and from a condition I have my hands get numb and or lock up on me. I need a much lighter clutch pull. I need to find a complete setup to put on my ride. You don't have an extra one lying around to get rid of do ya or know where I can get one do ya?
@bobpeters6532
@bobpeters6532 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! As you recommended, I removed the cam cover on my '77 Shovelhead in hopes of draining the oil and gas from the crankcase. Thanks to one of your videos, I made my own cover puller based on your design. Since there's at least four quarts of oil, plus an unknown quantity of fuel in the crankcase, I was expecting a lot of fluid to flow out. That didn't happen. I only got about half a quart of fluid out. Other than tilting the bike, is there something else I need to do to get the fluids out?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Cranking it over will pump it out through the breather hose. If the topend is off, get a hand pump for pumping lubricant into an automotive differential and pump the oil out by hand.
@TeapotLive
@TeapotLive 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, I have the same releasing disk and wondering if you could give me your starting sprint tension measurements? Thanks!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
It's really pretty simple. Take your measurement the same as you would for a thin steel disc. Just allow more in the amount of the depth of the "spring pocked." Use a narrow ruler or caliper and measure the depth of that hole. subtract it from the measurement you would usually use. Then you have it. If the hole is 1/4 " deep and your measurement is supposed to be 1", from the surface of the releasing disc to the pressure plate it should measure 3/4".
@TeapotLive
@TeapotLive 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 fair enough, I'll stick a caliper in there. I was just feeling lazy. I appreciate the reply! Thanks Mike. I bought this disc a few months ago and never ran it because it felt loose on the fingers and I was concerned about faster wear of the fingers. I ended up buying a second disc, the stock style thin steel crap and ended up warping that thing first time 'racing around' so now back to a sticky clutch at the moment. I'm going to make a switch to the thick aluminum one and hope for some better life!
@MrForming
@MrForming 6 ай бұрын
Hi from Russia Mike! Have 1977 shovel. What distance to plate in spring place you gauge? my cluch works good, but have “n” time to time..
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 6 ай бұрын
1 1/32. But, what works best is what works best. Make sure it breaks even all the way around.
@MrForming
@MrForming 6 ай бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thank you! and another question :my bike have lots of pressure when cold, but warm there's like zero in traffic. s&s oil pump on it, mineral oil 20/50. if run - is 20 and oll great, whan stay in traffic pressure go to 0. Do you have any solutions? Or is normal
@pastorbobncc365
@pastorbobncc365 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike, have a blessed week
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
And, I wish you one.
@johngordon8376
@johngordon8376 2 жыл бұрын
Mike my name is John gordon I live in rock falls ill. I own a 1962 flh harley panhead. I have replaced over approximately 2500 dollars in parts and performed extensive amount of work on her. I had to replace the pivot plate on the mousetrap.also replaced the dry clutch package with new parts. I have the clutch lever at one eighth play. I watched your video about the clutch adj. My question is with the mousetrap system is the pressure on the clutch pushrod to the throw out bearing the same as shown on your video
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
There is no pressure until the arm is moved. The idea is to adjust to the point of pressure, then back off so there is none.
@timmix331
@timmix331 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you have a great 2020👍🖖
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and wishing you the same.
@alanstebbins3384
@alanstebbins3384 4 жыл бұрын
Like your video, what do you think is better the 3 or the 5 finger clutch hub
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Matter of personal preference. I prefer the three.
@robertmayer2071
@robertmayer2071 2 жыл бұрын
just serviced my 76 flh clutch yesterday installed new friction discs but did not drill plates still draggs so im going to pull clutch again try drilling the plates to 25/64 hope it cures the drag problem
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, it will. Also, watch the clutch as you pull it in to see if it is breaking straight. You may have to "uneven" the springs a little to make the plates separate evenly. Also, notice the "Ram Jett Retainer" I use that stabilizes the basket.
@robertmayer2071
@robertmayer2071 2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 a-ha yes ive noticed that it is not breaking straight and ive always wondered why and what is the cure when i get the time maybe tomorrow i will dissasemble and replace frictions with drilled ones and reasemble and uneven the spring pressure looking for a clean break i think your info just might solve this dragging clutch that ive been suffering with for far too long thank you for sharing your thoughts on this problem thanks again !!!!
@Rhysmoreton
@Rhysmoreton 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, sorry to comment on an old video! I've been having a few issues with my clutch and I noticed you have steel/fibre/steel/fibre/steel/fibre. I have an extra fibre at the back. I never really thought much of it until now! may be why my clutch has been acting wild!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
The best combination is the one that works for you.
@Rhysmoreton
@Rhysmoreton 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 The combo I had in there isn't smooth and quite grabby! I'm going to try yours out and see where we land!
@2000tc88
@2000tc88 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, that is a really nice Pan you have there, I'd love to see your mates 48. I hope I can find a nice one soon myself. Great vid. 👍
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. They really are fun.
@scottlofton2607
@scottlofton2607 Жыл бұрын
Specking of clutches what's your thoughts on the ram jet retainer? The old lowrider has a 5 bolt studs with the tin retainer and springs, hard to shift into first gear and drages at stops.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
I first met Roger (Ramjett of Ramjett Products) when he demonstrated that retainer at a shop I was working in back in the early eighties. We became good friends after that. I've used those retainers ever since. If never change to the five stud hub. But, there's nothing wrong with them. I just don't see the advantage.
@josephlewis7166
@josephlewis7166 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guy happy happy holidays , i was just wondering can a mouse trap be installed to a 1994 heritege softail evo?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Anything can be done. It would be very complicated and there are a couple of different approaches that come to mind. A cable would have to be fabricated. The best way ( in my mind) to do the rod would be to use an early 5 speed trap door on your transmission and fabricate the clutch arm for a proper location. That's a pretty intense, but possible, feat. But, Happy Holidays!
@josephlewis7166
@josephlewis7166 5 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thnx appreciate it
@PANHEADDAN
@PANHEADDAN 2 жыл бұрын
By running a belt primary what do you do with the blow by tube that oils the chain on an original setup?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
I shorten it and put a rubber hose on it to vent to the rear of the bike, behind the inner primary tin. Be sure and turn off the primary chain oiler at the pump.
@PANHEADDAN
@PANHEADDAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thank you for the valuable information!
@joesurfer9754
@joesurfer9754 4 жыл бұрын
I am getting ready to put my clutch in 1979 shovelhead with all new plate's. I ordered barnett steel plates without the anti rattle balls. Do you think that is a mistake? The number one thing I am looking for is they work good and have long life. I am replacing the original steel factory plates.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
It will be great. It may make a sound you do or don't like. Not a mistake. If you're running an open primary, you'll make a sound that makes your friends know it's you. Hey, I hear Joe Surfer goin' through the gears.
@stevemoore8742
@stevemoore8742 2 жыл бұрын
I was baffled as how you were able to have the release plate assembled with the springs already under pressure, until you finally mentioned the shovel head valve retainer . Genius! Thanks for mentioning. I have no idea how that can be reassembled without that? How did Harley suggest this? Thanks for that video. My56PAN
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
It's the way I was taught in the seventies. It's not hard to assemble off the bike and then put it on. The guys I knew back then were not trained by the factory.
@Dwp911
@Dwp911 Жыл бұрын
Wondering when you said stagger while installing the plates do you just go back and forth or keep Skippy forward with the steel plates?? Thank you invance
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
You "stagger" the position of the steel plates that have "buffers" on them (Those little "anti-rattle devices riveted to the plates) so that they don't stack in the same positions and interfere with each other, not allowing the clutch plates to completely compact.
@Dwp911
@Dwp911 Жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thank you Mike ...i appreciate you getting back to me.this is my first time doing this and your videos help me out BIG TIME ... keep up the awesome vids supper helpful best on U Tube if you ask me and my buddy's
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@michaelnellis3324
@michaelnellis3324 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info on the older Harley's. Really helps and your content is great. My friend asked me to help on a 1948 flat head. We got the motor running nice now using you carb videos. My issue now is I can't get it into gear once it's running. The gears just grind. Seems to shift ok when it's off. Is there an adjustment I am missing for the clutch?
@michaelnellis3324
@michaelnellis3324 3 жыл бұрын
When I do get it into gear the clutch seems to work ok to get moving.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Okay. You said "Flathead." Is this a Big Twin, or a 45? Either way, it sounds like your clutch isn't releasing. Yes, the clutch must be adjusted. Do you have a service manual? Again, what is the bike? The clutch plates could be stuck together if the bike has been just sitting around. Better address this before putting it in gear again. Transmission parts are expensive
@michaelnellis3324
@michaelnellis3324 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the reply. All I was told is 48 flat head. S/n on the motor says 42u4272. It's been in his family since new. 12v conversion, belt drive. I think it has been restored sometime in its life. It's been sitting since 1992. Motor run great thanks to you videos. Thanks for all the content. I dont have a manual but it think your clutch video will get me where I need. Mike
@discogodfather22
@discogodfather22 5 жыл бұрын
Any advantage to using some kind of lock washers on that hardware Mike? I see a few with safety wire sometimes.
@716Harleyjoe
@716Harleyjoe 5 жыл бұрын
with safety wires YOU KNOW they wont come loose, they are easy to do. they are DEEP inside so u cant check them daily to know
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Not on the clutch studs. I don't know where you're referring to. But in in some places, safety wire is great.
@joesurfer9754
@joesurfer9754 4 жыл бұрын
Is the steel plate you put in up against the clutch basket an "extra" plate? I have been running my shovel the same way sinse the 1980's. It kept the clutch basket looking new but I have also had a aftermarket Tamer in there sinse the 1980's and I recently look at the tamer factory directions first time sinse I put Tamer in, in the 1980's and it said NOT to run a steel plate in there up against the basket but I have alway's been doing it and can't remember why I would have done that if "Tamer" directions say not too.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
You know, when we start mixing and matching products, nothing succeeds like success. I use a steel plate in there so the clutch fiber plate doesn't eat the inside of an aluminum basket. I round the edges and make it sit flat. Is it correct? According to whom? It sure works well. Sounds like yours has for almost 40 years.
@BuzzJones
@BuzzJones 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, also I hv an aftermarket wet/dry clutch on my 59’, 4 Clutch pads & 4 steel plates, and the distance from the outer Pressure Plate to Spring Collar is not 31/32 it’s very hard to pull the clutch lever but it was 1-1/8 before disassembly but I got it to 1-1/16. Would this be ok for the setup I got, it’s been years and a cpl head injuries since I put it in new in the 90’s ? Thanks
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Be sure the angle on the clutch arm is correct. Be sure the throwout bearing is operating correctly. Remember, a dry clutch runs dry and a wet clutch is really wet. Apparently, your clutch can be used either way, but not both. Your system is for a dry clutch, so you have a dry clutch. The measurements are merely a starting place. The springs have to compress to release pressure on the discs. You didn't mention if you have a mousetrap. If so, please refer to our video on setting up a mousetrap. Go to our KZbin Homepage and click on videos, There's a bunch of them, but find the one on mousetraps. If you still are having issues, write back with more details.
@richardsutherland2570
@richardsutherland2570 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike thanks for the video I’m having trouble adjusting my clutch adjusting screw I can turn it in to tighten the clutch but I still can’t get my clutch to function correctly it will not disengage the gears so it always seems like it’s in gear for example if it was started and I open the clutch to release it to bike with jump in stall Any ideas on how I can fix this 1955 Panhead
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to say. You may have your plates sticking together. Have you disassembled and cleaned it all?
@nicholascuccia4294
@nicholascuccia4294 4 жыл бұрын
What measurement are Are you looking to achieve total on the spring adjustment I can never get what the manufacturer says as far as measurements go which is an inch 1 1/32. Great videos
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
It is from the inside edge of the pressure plate (the outer collar) to the releasing disc.
@12stringmotorhead
@12stringmotorhead 4 жыл бұрын
Good video....what was you final measurment?...thanks
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. I forgot. You tighten it (evenly) until it holds well. The recommended measurement should do it.
@mirozuti5120
@mirozuti5120 5 жыл бұрын
Mike, I've heard I should change my lifters on my 110ci twin cam CVO motor? Is there any truth to that
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Lifters wear out. Never a question of "if," just "when." When replacing cams and doing the usual "upgrades," the lifters are usually replaced with "aftermarket high performance" units. You didn't mention how many miles are on the original lifters. They are a "wear item" and shouldn't be forgotten.
@frankmccracken743
@frankmccracken743 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, new subscriber here. Love your videos. Can't stop binge watching them! An old shovel owner and rebuilder here, years ago. Twin cam owner now. Learnin' stuff here like the extra steel disc hint. Question: I noticed in this video that you installed the clutch steels still shiny but scuffed the discs. What about scuffing the steels? All the old stories in the old days of guys slightly roughing up clutch steel discs on the side of the road on the concrete when the clutch started to slip...? Thanks again man. Ride safe, Frank
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Not all materials are the same. Do what works for you. They will get "polished" in there anyway. Clean is what you need. Clean and dry. Again, what works for you is what you need. Take care.
@looloo6322
@looloo6322 4 жыл бұрын
"That was working not well"- A classic line.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
The point I was trying to make is: These things are subject to many issues. A lot of the parts we're working with are quite old. So, the goal is to make all of these parts function well together. If at first you don't succeed (whatever level of perfection you're going for), go back in and have a little talk with her. Glad you like it. Thank You.
@looloo6322
@looloo6322 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 You're glad I like it, actually I love it and I am going to steal it, if you don't mind.
@georgejanz1313
@georgejanz1313 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, '75 FXE Super Glide here. currently in the bike is a 3-stud clutch hub. Unevenness felt on the studs indicating wear. I see Drag Specialties 5-stud hubs after market. would you point me in the direction of a quality replacement hub and clutch? Also interested in tracking down the auto-chain tensioner you show in one vid. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I don't advertise for any of these people. But first, I never could find the an advantage to the five stud hub. You clean everything and make it break even. Done. If you want a better than stock clutch all of the suppliers carry better plates and springs. If you're looking for a better designed clutch, they get more expensive. I like diaphragm clutch springs. Rivera Primo and Baker Drivetrain come to mind. The automatic chain tensioner you probably saw is an M-6, carried by most suppliers.
@donsmith5534
@donsmith5534 4 жыл бұрын
Mike, love your videos, I have this old 58 FL with a shovel upper end (chopper) that has been sitting in storage forever, now my son wants to put it together and your videos are helping, anyway we just installed the hand clutch cable and it's super hard to pull, I guess some cable lube and go through the clutch, also it has a old phase 3 primary belt, could the pressure plate springs possibly stiffened up over the years, I don't remember ever being that hard, any thoughts?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Take it all apart. Clean the clutch plates, both steels and fibers. Clean and lube the lever. Hang up the cable and run Break Free in it 'til it runs out the bottom. The clutch springs are probably good. We have videos up for all of these procedures. You'll find them under "Playlists" on our KZbin Channel Home Page.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Thank You.
@closertothetruth9209
@closertothetruth9209 4 жыл бұрын
nice to know bikes have dry clutches, i thought only wet existed but i work on cars etc not bikes, i like your channel a lot
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! The later model stuff has wet clutches.
@bluebeard6189
@bluebeard6189 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I'm not sure if something I just find one of your videos.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, Thank You.
@robertjeffery6100
@robertjeffery6100 3 жыл бұрын
Always picking up your tips and tricks
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@djmajor1597
@djmajor1597 7 ай бұрын
Mike, what do you think about the crowd who says to soak the frictions in oil?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 7 ай бұрын
Works fine on a bike with a wet clutch. You'll find it in your service manual. Don't know what your bike is. Harleys had dry clutches up into the early eighties. What do you have?
@djmajor1597
@djmajor1597 7 ай бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 51 Pan with a belt drive (dry) but enclosed
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 7 ай бұрын
I run my belt drives enclosed. Belt drives and their clutches are all run dry.
@Hbhdvhgbhy
@Hbhdvhgbhy 5 ай бұрын
Love the videos mike. I'm having an issue with my 77 shovelhead clutch. After adjusting the clutch to the proper settings and putting it all back together thinking it's good to go, I then start it it up and engage 1st and my clutch hub nut some how becomes lose and I end up with nothing with in a few seconds. Any thoughts to what's going on? Thanks in advance!!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 ай бұрын
I could be wrong (not being there), but it sounds like the clutch hub is not fitting on to the shaft properly. Maybe the key is not seating in there, or the taper of the shaft and the taper in the hub don't fit each other. Either one of those could be damaged. I suspect the clutch hub is cracked in one of the corners of the keyway. Remove the hub and inspect it very carefully, especially inside the corners of the keyway.
@billynolan3393
@billynolan3393 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Many Thanks for sharing all your knowledge. You have been a valuable resource to me over and over again. I have a slight issue with my clutch on my 1981 FXWG Shovelhead. Everything is stock but it has a very agressive crash style gear change as I change gear it sounds pretty clunky. I've had advice and people say "Buddy, that's just how they are" but I have a second symptom with is I cannot find neutral while the bike is running. She just jumps from 1st to 2nd and back to first until I turn the bike off. At which point neutral is easy to find. I've used up all the adjustment on the cable and am left with no more play. My question is, should I be compressing the springs on the pressure plate or decompressing the springs to get a bit more clutch action. Hope your day is awesome. Bill from Ireland 😁
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
The bike jumping back and forth between gears sounds like a transmission problem. That 81 4 speed has what's referred to as a "rotary top." Inside that lid is a shifter plate. I suspect something wrong in there. That plate registers the position for each gear. I'd have to look inside. I hope that doesn't ruin your day. You wished me an awesome day and I don't want to be the bearer of bad tidings. But, I don't think I could tolerate a gear change that I didn't call for. Take care.
@billynolan3393
@billynolan3393 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Hi Mike, Thank you for your advice and for taking the time to respond. It's really special that you always make time to. I appreciate it a lot.
@michaelhazen8658
@michaelhazen8658 3 жыл бұрын
@@billynolan3393 Hey billy when you say "jumps from first to second" are you referring to trying to find neutral? Or do you mean its shifting gears without any input from you on the gear lever? Ive noticed with my twin cam that it can occasionally be finicky about finding neutral. Its was really bad when I first got the bike. Ive since changed the oil and meticulously adjusted the clutch pushrod and the cable to spec. That makes a huge difference. But that isnt all. Ive noticed that the gearbox has another habit I am familiar with on other machines - getting to neutral is a whole lot easier if the bike is just barely rolling or if I just give the bike a little nudge from the clutch as I go for neutral. It has to do with how the gearbox meshes and a little input will let things click. BTW = I dont know if this is the case with the gearbox in your bike, but Im told that in mine, they are designed to not go into neutral from second. I could be wrong about that though. So if it is a "find neutral" issue - double check all the adjustments - pushrod and cable. and try hitting neutral just as you roll to a stop. that will probably give you a better idea where things need to be looked at to make things even better.
@billynolan3393
@billynolan3393 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhazen8658 Hi Mike, yes that's exactly it. She won't find neutral when running. I have naturally found that if I grab neutral just as I'm coming to a stop. It's much easier. The bike had been sitting for a long time before this year and I freshened up most everything apart from the clutch. I'll take it out and give it a clean and then adjust the push rod and cable. Many Thanks!!!!! 😁
@michaelhazen8658
@michaelhazen8658 3 жыл бұрын
@@billynolan3393 Excellent! Im also using specific gearbox and primary oils - not "one oil for all" or ATF in the primary as some like to do. I think type and age of the oils makes a difference.
@donsmith5534
@donsmith5534 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, 58 pan / shovel chopper, do know of any clutch handle that will make pulling in clutch easier, clutch cable is greased, cleaned clutch plates , 4 speed transmission, any thoughts?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
The best ever, as far as I'm concerned, is a properly adjusted "mousetrap." In your service manual, it is referred to as a "clutch booster assembly." We really addressed this in a previous video. Go to our KZbin Channel Home page and look under "Videos." There's a bunch. Look for the one with the word "mousetrap" in it.
@tagelavechristensen7485
@tagelavechristensen7485 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. On my knucklehead i ran the old pressure plate and some old (maybee original) springs, and that ment that there was'nt the same tension in each spring, so when ever i serviced it, instead of messureing the distance, I had to tightening the spring different each time. I did it aprox and then made sure the ajusting plate went straight out when activated. Pull the clutch severeal times, while slowy rotating the clutchhead (using kickpedal or backwheel). I know i could have bought new springs, but they lasted the 26 year i rode the bike. Greeting from Denmark
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. And, your explanation is great. I tried to show getting the releasing disc to move straight and even in one of our previous videos. This was a "go back and make it quit slipping" video. And I appreciate the fact that parts that are "half worn are still half good."
@carlecolapietro3498
@carlecolapietro3498 3 жыл бұрын
I am working on restoring a 1961 Servi-Car .... it has a flathead motor.....What i the little measuring tool you used in the video?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the 6" ruler? Any tool supply has them.
@carlecolapietro3498
@carlecolapietro3498 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 it looked more precise than a ruler but if that is all it is then you answered my question… thank you!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of people carry one in their shirt pocket, just like a pen. Very useful at swap meets to measure things. They come graduated in all kinds of measurements.
@equinociodeverao8155
@equinociodeverao8155 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlecolapietro3498 po
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