Packers/Jaguars Postgame Show - It's Victory Monday!!!

[@bubbaone1575]

I loved Wyatt's roller derby hip check of the O lineman allowing him to recover the fumble.

[@laiika511]

Malik has fundamentally shifted the trajectory of this season

[@robotnielsen5434]

Malik is awesome, i was so happy when they put him in! He can throw and run!

[@tadsomato1940]

I was fundamentally wrong about Willis when they traded for him, and I am very glad that I was.

[@fitz27486]

And for his career.

[@benswanson5394]

The thing I just don't understand is it felt like the second half of the game was a Barry defense and not a Haf defense.

[@voldemort008]

Evan Williams got hurt and we had to move Bullard back to safety and bring in Stokes, and both suck in that role.

[@benswanson5394]

@@voldemort008 Bullard was solid at safety first few games. But I think recently he's been focusing on slot?

[@davecleavenger8699]

Thats why Copper isn't player of the game

[@davecleavenger8699]

Bullard is fine play him in 1 position and he will own it

[@gbgary]

it's not like the Packers have the home field advantage they used to have. I wouldn't risk him. take the L if they have to and get everyone as healthy as possible for the game after the break.

[@lloydchristmas2542]

Not when they give the Milwaukee package ALL 3 home division games. Those "fans" sell over half their tickets to opposing fans every game. The real fans show up for the other home games.

[@kreed4480]

He’s going to be fine it’s just a groin injury And playing in Lambeau is always home field advantage

[@kylekinnear8878]

With a chance to be in first with a win before the buy? No way they do that if he can go.

[@gbgary]

didn't say it wasn't, and I know what the injury is. they've put themselves in good position to absorb a loss to get people healthy. they're a pretty deep team and with some luck could possibly get lucky versus Det.

[@rogergreiling4249]

​@@lloydchristmas2542The "Milwaukee people" weren't "given" those games. They get the second, fifth, and this year, ninth home games. It's just the way the schedule, made by the league, not the Packers, fell this season.

[@christianmunkelwitz1103]

It Malik plays next week and beats the lions, retire his number and put him in the Packers hall of fame 😂

[@Matteuslee]

We have to be honest and saying that Malik hasn’t earned the chance to start next week is insane. He has the tools and has controlled the game in this offense. Love is the better qb but are we short changing Willis? We essentially need 4 more wins, I’d rather have love healthy for the bears and niners this month.

[@tjmbandits8512]

Andy tell your team to shape up. Lookin like the just rolled out of bed crew.

[@petervaichus6978]

Malik probably gives the Packers the best chance to hang with the Lions because of his running ability that Love does not presently have. Malik is able to compliment the running game with long drives with a game plan to keep the Detroit offense on the bench more. Also, Marshawn Lloyd needs to get back on the field and start breaking off runs like Gibbs is doing for the Lions.

[@MikeDV34]

We have a nice problem at running back. :)

[@petervaichus6978]

@@MikeDV34 - yes indeed. Time to turn these Packers O-Line players into run blocking maulers for all these running backs.

[@dwill0408]

Green Bay needs to go out and get a Defensive End that can get home consistently with speed…that is the missing piece.

[@kreed4480]

The thing about football is it matters zero what the Packers and Lions have done up to this point. We will see who the better team is next Sunday.

[@tylerstreber8218]

WiscoGrant’s voice sounds a lot like JD Vance and now I can’t unhear it 😂

[@williamgould2470]

Jacksonville must have watched how Houston covered our receivers because they had them covered for most of the game

[@robertbortz5844]

Are you kidding me?? Sit him. There are two more chances to beat Detroit and neither team is winning three games. This is the chance to demoralize them by beating them with a backup quarterback. His health at the end of the year is exponentially more important.

[@NittyGritty18]

week 8 and yet again the pass rush was nowhere to be found.

[@samskott2344]

Im willing to give the Packers defense a little grace for allowing the Jags to come back after falling behind by 10. Jaxonville was 2-5 coming into this game and they all know the season is probably over if they lose here today. This seemed more like Trevor Lawrence pulling out all the stops, refusing to lay down and give up. He made some great throws to keep the Jags afloat in this game. So sure, Green Bay's defense probably should have come up with a stop there, but I do think this is one of those times where you can tip your cap to the opposing team.

[@voldemort008]

It looks a lot worse when you remember their top 2 receivers were both out at that point of the game. We almost got beat by 3rd and 4th string receivers.

[@samskott2344]

@@voldemort008 Trevor Lawrence was the first overall pick a few years ago for a reason. There is still a great QB in there somewhere even if he doesn't show up all the time. We had a 10 point lead, we got a little too comfortable and the Jags saw their whole season flash before their eyes and did everything they could to save it. The other guys get paid too. Also the touchdown pass was so weird. Nixon is outmatched and JA clearly got hurt while trying to contest the ball. McKinney was kind of in the area but wasn't in position to make a play on the ball. Imo, it looked worse than it was, and we still had almost 2 minutes to go down and win the game. In the Barry era, they would have scored the TD and left us with maybe 20 seconds to make something happen.

[@davecleavenger8699]

Thx Andy you have the best breakdown never been so informed

[@davecleavenger8699]

Give Luv 2 weeks we have the season left 1 game will not matter 1 way or the other

[@benstockings7973]

Why was Perri pulling faces during the Luige’s pizza promo? Seems like a great sponsor!

[@chrislamb1299]

Because she forgets she’s on camera

[@rebd113]

She’s annoying I try to avoid when she’s on. Can’t stand the valley girl upward inflection at the end of almost every sentence.

[@YourUserNameSucksx10]

Vegetarian lol

[@christianmallien3123]

She just makes funny faces sometimes 😊

[@kaylporter276]

Victory Monday baby!

[@dougpearson9602]

Love from the waist down is a mess. They have to sit him for these 3 weeks and get him ready for the bears.

[@jeremyshepherd8142]

I could be wrong but in the time lefleur has been our head coach we seem to struggle again teams were meant to beat almost like we under scheme because we don't want to show to much, & when we are forced to face teams short handed or that are ment to be alot better than us lefleur is forced to get in his bag ! Which I feel is when he's at his best

[@adamkoepke1366]

One thing I’d really like to see from Love and this offense is to stop making the easy stuff look so difficult. Love and this offense always have the ability to make the big play, but I would love to see them develop a rhythm by taking some check downs and marching down the field. We can’t keep relying on chunk plays all the time

[@jonnewbury3482]

Lions are playing next level football. They are about as complete of a team there is. The Packers will have to play near perfect football for a win. Or hope for an ugly grind out win.

[@JimeLello]

Chill bro it was the Titans

[@OverpoweredByMonk]

@@JimeLellonot sure about NOW but going into that game Goff had more TDs than incomplete passes over the last four games. That’s incredible shit lol.

[@YourUserNameSucksx10]

​@@JimeLellolions are smashing teams they are supposed to embarrassed. Lions are the real deal complete team.

[@shanepeterson3085]

Lions are playing well, however they also were playing great last year going into the Thanksgiving’s game so….. if the Packers can dictate terms this game will be there for them to win

[@adamdavis5312]

Just wondering where all the cooper Dejean guys are .. soo glad we avoided that disaster.

[@mgtowlegion652]

KEEP COOPER ON THE DAM FIELD!

[@leatherface0777]

Jag's defense didn't prepare for Willis. This may have played a big difference.

[@RaymondBrean]

Winning on the road is never easy, no matter who the opponent is, and the difficulty of the task only multiples when a team’s starting quarterback goes down to injury. The Green Bay Packers lost Jordan Love early in the 2nd half, but Matt Lafluer’s team made enough plays, even after blowing 2 leads to escape the Jacksonville Jaguars with a hard-fought 30-27 win at Jacksonville. After Jordan Love went out, Josh Jacobs scored a 38-yard touchdown, the Green Bay Packers defense set up another touchdown and Malik Willis and Jayden Reed set up the game-winning field goal with a 51-yard connection late. Where would the Green Bay Packers be without Malik Willis? Probably not 6-2. After losing in Brazil to open the season, the Green Bay Packers have won 6 out of the last 7 games, including 3 wins featuring big contributions from Malik Willis. Go Pack Go 💚💚💛💛

[@fractalofgod6324]

I hope I'm wrong but i think you guys are underestimating jloves injury.... The fact is he's not been 100% since the injury occurred and he's now re aggrevated that injury.

[@Valzod47]

It's not his knee.

[@shanepeterson3085]

I agree that if Love can’t run the offense effectively you have to start Willis… but if Love is even 70-75 percent it’s probably the better choice but it’s a toss up

[@johnshay9527]

I get love don't have the wheels Malik does but matt has to start running the offense for love that he does when Malik is in. It's almost night and day how much the offense changes when we run the offense like we do when Malik is in. Run the ball and set up the play action and take what is there and the shots down the field will come. Gotta quit trying to force it down the field so often and the cute end arounds that rarely ever work. That and give jacobs the ball as much as you can every game!

[@kaylporter276]

Lambeau has not really been much of a playoff advantage in recent years. Make the right moves, don’t rush Love back, you have the bye, plus lots of season left.

[@davecleavenger8699]

Not sure it's the stop it is at the 7 miunute mark when Dobbs drops the 1st down pass

[@davecleavenger8699]

Still ahead by 10 and at least another2 minutes off the clock and maybe a SCORE😊

[@barrye5376]

Too Early still to Crown the Lions , winning a blowout in one game does not guarantee anything in the Next Game. Going in Fearful is not the way to approach any game

[@leehemmersbach8018]

They also are playing the best ball in Sept and Oct, that's only half the season. Let's see if they peak in Dec/Jan

[@karlmeyle]

Gutekunst has done a phenomenal job. However do you think the Packers wished they had not traded Rasul Douglas. We are thin in corner room. Why did they trade him? Attitude?

[@Will-q7c]

Passing on Cooper Dejean will haunt them this year. He is balling out for the Eagles this year

[@fitz27486]

My concern is that we've heard the "this team isn't playing well but they're winning" line all year now. Malik's fabulous contributions aside, when exactly are we going to see this team play "well"? We're 8 games into the season and Detroit is next week. My buddy in Detroit is putting his money on the table and smiling. Someone talk me off the ledge.

[@laiika511]

@@fitz27486 week 6. The cardinals game was where every phase was pulling its weight and we had a convincing win. Every part has shown individually that they can carry this team. We’ve seen them play complimentarily and we will again. Hold you your head up.

[@voldemort008]

We need to go ahead and take the L against the Lions and let Love have that and the Bye week to recoup.

[@structuredcmlandclearingex3843]

I don’t think GB wins against Detroit even if Love is healthy, they just don’t match up well with the Lions, so get him healthy, that’s more important long term. If they keep playing Love and his groin is a nagging issue all season, that’s far worse than having to go to Ford field in a must win situation later in the season. Playoffs is must win so having Love healthy for the stretch run is key.

[@DontFollowZim]

What is up with the lighting behind Perri?

[@Will-q7c]

Packers really need to make a trade for a competent cornerback opposite of Jaire because what they have now will not cut it vs the Lions. Cooper Dejean should have been drafted he is balling out for the Eagles

[@fractalofgod6324]

Malik is prepared to play in every game, he even said so with his own mouth at interview. Come on guys.

[@patrickchristopherson2191]

Okay honestly at this point I feel like after this season we could trade Malik Willis back to the Titans for a high draft pick😂

[@aarmstrong92]

If Jordan love is good enough to play a bit why not keep Detroit on their toes and plan to play with two QBs. Allow love to ball out a bit, but limit his snaps. Malik in their throws a wrinkle in the lions gameplan.

[@joselopez-arenivar8153]

Rashan Gary acting like he's dribbling just to get stuffed was ridiculous. He has been awful all year and even last year. For a guy making $100mil, he sure isn't producing. The back ups are playing better and making more impact than him and Preston have.

[@Pnw208]

Brock Purdue has an all star cast on offense so it makes it easier and a great defense. But he did great by following the system and the reads in order and taking the first guy that’s open. Love finally started playing lights out last year when he figured that out and the receivers got their timing down. This year Love is still playing in the system but he has more freedom to make plays. But he should learn to go back to the system. Same with Rodgers and Malik. When Rodgers actually stuck to the system he came back to glory after 2 down years. As soon as he started changing plays and doing what he wanted the offense fell apart. Malik is an average QB who plays the system and he’s more efficient than love per play or per game. When you have real talent and they stick to the system it’s so much better. But if you let your guy take control it can fall apart real quick. Love isn’t experience enough to take over. At least Rodgers understood the defenses and had more football IQ.

[@gbgary]

it all worked out but I haven't seen/heard anything about 30 going down instead of scoring a TD at the end.

[@Matt-yq3gq]

That’s what you’re supposed to do in that situation. Lafleur mentioned the selflessness of it in the postgame.

[@gbgary]

@@Matt-yq3gq it worked out like I said, but the FG might have been missed. could have lost in OT with so many injured,exhausted players. a TD would have been preferable in my mind.

[@Will-q7c]

That’s what you call a team player he could’ve easily went and scored his first NFL td

[@laiika511]

@@gbgary Tom Grossi could have kicked that game winning FG. I want a Chris Brooks TD probably way more than the next guy, I get it, but this was 100% the smart play

[@Matt-yq3gq]

@@gbgary except it’s not preferable with any analytics or thinking that teams would follow. What if they missed the extra point on the TD? What if the jags went down and scored or a TD to win or a TD than a two for the win? Brooks decision basically gave the packers a 99.9% winning percentage. Scoring a TD with time left brings that percent down

[@tonymontana1799]

I respectfully disagree. Love was on pace to throw for 400 yards.

[@petervaichus6978]

It’s simple. Love played sub par QB against the really weak secondary of the Jaguars. He should have been able to get two TD passes in the first half at least but Love not being able to run as needed caused this GB offense to sputter in scoring TD passes. When the opponent knows that Love will probably not run in the red zone then they have more players to cover the receivers.

[@kreed4480]

He tweaked his groin the first drive lol that can derail anyone’s day

[@petervaichus6978]

@@kreed4480 - understand, however whatever the reason Love played poorly. If he gets hurt, take yourself out of the game and let a healthy running Malik come in at QB and guide the offense. Rest up and get better to play optimally later in the season. Not hobbling around out there at QB being ineffective.

[@kreed4480]

@@petervaichus6978 couldn’t disagree more but that’s life. I say if he’s able to play, play. Which he was doing. Then yeah, to your point take yourself out of the game once you can’t play, which he did. Idk if you ever watched Favre or any old school QBs play, but just because your hurt doesn’t mean take yourself out of the game. Imo Leflure again was the reason we were in even a tight game. Similar to last week, he refuses to stick to the run when 10 is in the game. JAX had zero answers for our inside run, Jacobs was eating all day. But Leflure would simply not commit to running, even when we all seen 10 struggling to put weight on the left leg. But to no surprise , when Malik went in, oh well now let’s run the ball and guess what? We dominated. Had the defense not fallen apart at the seems the second half this game wouldn’t have even been close

[@petervaichus6978]

@@kreed4480 - I think the defense was out there too much and Bullard was getting burned on that last TD drive by Lawrence to tie the game. I actually fault LaFleur, after the Jags drove and got a FG to pull within 27-20, for being too conservative with Malik and playing not to loose late in the game by just running Jacobs into the line for minimal yardage and then punting away to the Jags right away. He did not let Malik throw enough to keep the offense moving the chains there when the Jags stacked the box to stop Jacobs when they had to. Check out that second to the last Packer drive up 7. LaFluer played it too conservative with just running and put his defense right back out there with little rest. They could have been more aggressive with Malik throwing on that drive and let the offense seal the 7 point lead and game rather than going three and out and punting there. The run did not work there at all.

[@adamkoepke1366]

This defense is good for one game a year making a not so great QB have a decent game

[@fractalofgod6324]

Sorry but i disagree with grant on Malik Willis. He's probably one of the best QB back ups in the nfl.

[@davecleavenger8699]

Josh for sure

[@davecleavenger8699]

Without Josh in the 2nd half we do not win that game

[@johnshay9527]

Gary, Clark, Smith, Lvn have been the most disappointing part of the season. Especially after two of them were recently paid and ones a high first round pick who doesn't look like he's gotten any better in his 2nd year.

[@davecleavenger8699]

Love Reed but we use end a

[@toddvandersys4116]

Just win baby😂😂😂

[@williamgould2470]

I'm happy with the development of Willis But he is not an a point in his career where we can beat Detroit with him. Hope I'm wrong because the injury 2 love Is one that can linger

[@fractalofgod6324]

I don't think we can beat them with love tbh.

[@rebd113]

@@fractalofgod6324agree. Detroit is on a tear. Just let Love rest and recover for 2 weeks

[@davecleavenger8699]

Defense wasn't there most of the game

[@mickgringo1997]

Kitan Oladapo is the answer

[@Valzod47]

Lol he hasn't played a snap and he's more of a box safety hybrid LB.

[@rogergreiling4249]

What is the question?

[@TyreeTravels]

Carlson perfect including a 50 yarder and two other field goals and three extra points. I still say we gave up too early on him

[@Matt-yq3gq]

He also missed an extra point the other week though

[@laiika511]

@@TyreeTravels I think we might have, but at the same time McManus seems really solid. What’s done is done, I guess

[@TyreeTravels]

​@@laiika511 yes I feel the same

[@TyreeTravels]

​@@Matt-yq3gqprobably true. I still stand by my statement. On

[@Matt-yq3gq]

@@TyreeTravels if he’s a quality kicker who doesn’t cost the niners games over a large body of work and kicks like an average or better than average nfl kicker, then it’s possible the packers did that, but we are nowhere near that point. He had one game where he made all his kicks this year, and only one of them was 50 yards, so he basically made one kick where the odds get a little dicey an average kicker makes it. We would need to see that happen several more times for us to probably make a proclamation he was given up on too early and probably need to see it in at least 2 seasons. He wasn’t even a good college kicker and was the worst in the nfl last year. Long way to go. Plus McManus is lights out under 50 in his career. He’s the better alternative either way.

[@chrislamb1299]

Peri, if you are going to regurgitate other people’s thoughts and buzzwords, can you keep it more concise so we can get interesting insights from the other participants?

[@MikeDV34]

Dude, your Perri hatred is really gross. Get a life.

[@Pnw208]

Josh Jacob’s wasn’t that impressive because he had decent total numbers but his YPC wasn’t great. Jones was better in the passing game and could get rushing and passing TDs consistently and over 100 yards just rushing on like 16 carries and a few catches he would total 200 yards on much fewer attempts. He had the best YPC in packers history which is impressive to me. If you average over 5 that’s impressive. Jacob’s finally broke 5 and it was on 25 carries. Usually he will average 3.5-4 on 25 carries or more

[@rebd113]

Aaron Jones was more injury prone tho and older. Jacobs is younger with similar yards. That’s how it goes with RBs. Hasnt Jones missed a couple games this season already? That’s why we parted ways

[@leatherface0777]

First year judgements are almost always too critical

[@dadof3239]

Em i the only one who is sick of Luigi's pizza and i aint even ever had one yet at 1st i thought i wanted 1 i was like i got to try that pizza then i have to hear it ever video im like really Luigi's pizza should be the name of podcast cause i feel like my memory of this man well be Luigi's pizza not packers 😂

[@louisejones6760]

Stop with the "trap game" BS... Football Outsiders did a statistical analysis of 25 years worth of games and showed it to be a myth.

[@JefferyT1991]

Packs what she said is the worst Packer channel of all time

[@dougpearson9602]

Gary is just a huge disappointment

[@midnightwarrioryang9563]

It’s almost a guarantee that Detroit is going to blow them out. Not a very good defense and offensive plays

[@Janeo7404]

Hey we beat Detroit last year. Better coordinators. Gonna do it again

[@jamesjeske7420]

Fickle. Last week everyone said defense great. Make up minds people!!!

[@petervaichus6978]

@@Janeo7404- multiple turnovers by Goff were the only reason GB beat Detroit last year. He’s not doing that this season due to their running game being so explosive and Goff being so accurate with his passes.