Packed Snacks Update 2023 [Released!]

[@ashen0001]

The crashes is a feature to remind you to stay hydrated 😅

[@Luma_plays]

xD

[@rookiebeotch]

Drinking vodka rn. I feel alchy-shamed.

[@travisperkins9920]

Could be worse. I tried playing tiny Tina's new game and literally every time I died/fast travelled, my e tire console would crash. Not just the game, the while console

[@ShadowManceri]

Useful feature because humans are unable to feel thirst unlike many other animals.

[@renemulisak5401]

Isn't it a reference to the mighty game of Timberborn?

[@EATZYOWAFFLEZ]

Bio bot being recyclable is game changing... Or should i say crashing? Either way, I'm glad sporchids have an actual use, and I hope more germs get a use in the future.

[@jandelion404]

I find these update videos invaluable, thank you SO MUCH for making them!

[@Luma_plays]

Thank you for the feedback :)

[@rustit]

Thanks for your video! P.S. it looks to me (and other people on forum(s) too) that they too rushed on this update (bugs, crashes, bugs =( )

[@Luma_plays]

I agree. I like what they want to implement. Dried foods and the bots. But i never had this much crashes. 17 crashes just for the first video.

[@TheGh0stito]

my mouth was agape to see the storage tile,its ground breaking when you think about how much space one normally spends just to make storage...and now this godsend!

[@KireRex]

And there goes my pool filled with pacus...

[@BouncingTribbles]

I'm having a knee jerk dislike reaction to the dehydrator just dropping water on the floor. I get that being the default if you don't hook it up, but I'd like a water out pipe attachment. Especially because the gas range is a pretty late game station. These systems seem pretty complicated too, I'm worried about their tech debt. That could be why you're crashing so much. They keep adding systems, but I'm not seeing a huge amount of bug fixes to go with it. I also basically stopped modding the game because of the frequent updates

[@Luma_plays]

:D nice description of the reaction. I cut out a lot of bug fixes cause i can't really show what is fixed. If you are interested i do have a link to the update notes in the description.

[@nikolaysitnikov796]

The game has had many crashing bugs with normal Rovers because they tried to some things that required an animation only dupes had. Apparently those fixes did not transfer to the Biobot, or maybe the new buildings did not get the fixes.

[@TheKueiJin]

I actually expected the response from "Lets see how many biobots we can have at the sam-" *CRASH!!!* *Apparently none..."

[@Luma_plays]

Missed opportunity..

[@yjk92]

Can an auto sweeper operate on storage tiles? If yes, it could be a valid alternate to conveyor loader/rails to move debris across rooms.

[@Luma_plays]

I was able to. But only feom certain angles last time i checked. I did not check for this current update. only the testing branch

[@kutairaisu4603]

Your editing skills are better every time! Loved the crash puns XD Edit: I added some stuff about the bio bot, but I haven't tested enough yet.

[@Luma_plays]

Thanks alot Kutai! I try out something new everytime and see what sticks :D Good idea with the testing. I am not sure where the sweet point is. to little gas and the pump is not working good, as well as the sporechid not producing enough germs. too much gas and there can be loss or you hinder the sporechid from working cause of the airpressure.

[@dominic.h.3363]

I don't know about anyone else, but these feature updates just make me less and less inclined to play the game again. Yes, the additions sound good, but not added to a game that already has this much going on. They should be focusing on reducing the necessity of minmaxing mechanics, so there would be more than one viable way to reach the endgame. Water locks and Pacu reproduction cheesing to feed the tree are not considered exploits, they are basic game features, which is completely crazy. I'm currently playing Starfield with 157 mods, and it still feels like I'm playing tic-tac-toe compared to ONI.

[@kawapatch]

That's the tricky part with any sandbox game, people will always try and seek out the most efficient way to do something and label it as the best/definitive way of doing it. It's extremely hard to balance and ensure multiple solutions to something are relatively equal in power/efficiency in a game where literally everything interacts and works off each other. The only thing you can do is avoid minmaxing by looking at what other people are doing and figure out a solution yourself. For example, the only reason you know why pacu farming for the tree is the most efficient is because you looked it up. Stumbling onto or personally figuring out a solution like that instead is so much more fulfilling, and it wouldn't feel like a cop out because *you* discovered it for yourself! At the very least, that's how I see it! Every solution is viable in a sandbox game. Something is only not "viable" if you look at it through the lense of other people who have already minmaxed the hell out of it.

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@kawapatch The only reason I know why pacu farming for the tree is the most efficient, because nobody bothers to make anything else, so it's not even worth watching gameplay from several people because they will do the same things the same way, the only variety will come from a different base layout... if even that. Even if there is someone new to ONI uploading gameplay, backseat gamers will hoard in the comments to force cookie-cutter minmax solutions on them, and the series becomes another repeat of what we've already seen a million times before. This herd mentality is what's ruining all games of management/strategy for everyone who tries to do something that isn't the best way to do things according to the internet. Last but not least, we're talking about youtube here, not about what I'm doing when I'm not watching youtube. I watch gameplay on youtube to gather a variety of insights. And there is no variety with ONI, because the game is not set up for a variety of things to be equally viable. Yes, viable, I will keep using the word because that's the right word here. Viability is the quality of being reasonably capable of success, of maintaining longevity, of being sustainable.

[@kawapatch]

​@@dominic.h.3363 I really just had an issue with your "reducing the necessity of minmaxing mechanics" line, because I don't believe something like that can possibly be an necessity in a sandbox game. That's because, well, it's a *sandbox* game. You don't have to follow the most efficient solution to everything, you can play around with it as much as you want! More options and variety is always fantastic and welcome, but as soon as you start looking at things through the lense of the "absolute best efficiency", you will always run into that roadblock of "only X solution is the best". You end up optimising the fun out of it! No one can truely force you to use the most viable solution to everything, only yourself. Having a fun game sesh isn't always about making everything absolutely perfect. Mess around with other solutions! Impose challenges on yourself and spice things up, etc! That's what a sandbox game is all about!

[@mr.q8240]

@@dominic.h.3363 first of not true i have seen other ways to do it.. second pau framing wasn't viable and not the most efficient because it was an exploit like infinite liquide storage ( long live the buffer tank), which they fixed now... if you cant play without exploits or recognize that all survial games are about minmaxing maybe this is not your gerne ( nothing wrong with that diffrent people diffrent taste)and in ONI are a lot of viable ways to play but the non exploits and not minmaxing ones just needs more time and thinking.... Last thing nobody forces you play like the internet wants figure it out yourself if you dont like it...

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@kawapatch You don't get it do you? THERE ARE NO OTHER SOLUTIONS! EVERYONE I WATCH IS USING THE SAME ONES. Watching gameplay videos is about gaining new insights, expanding one's frame of reference, and this is what is not happening! Try to understand what I'm saying instead of coming to the game's defense from a perspective that is entirely irrelevant to youtube as a viewing experience!

[@hiromasaki9436]

This video should be Luma and his crashes 😂😂😂

[@yakisober2915]

RIP Pacu farm , im glad that I stockpiled around 15 million cal of pacu fillet before the update xD

[@CosminIvan]

Do materials give off gases from within the storage tiles, like they do from normal storage bins?

[@stephenj2014]

All this and yet they STILL wont add an airlock building... I'm sick of liquid locks like c'mon Klei ffs just do it already

[@MrRafagigapr]

to be honest we allready have airlocks , its called using transit tubes , and they can even be made of plastium to not melt at high temps , what i really want is insulated doors lol

[@stephenj2014]

@@MrRafagigapr Yeah the transit tube thing is fine I'd just love a 4x3 building or whatever that they just pass through and each time it takes some electricity and needs a gas vent.... hell maybe even a late game integrated Airlock + Atmosuit gateway. Yep Insulated doors and Insulated Heavy wire joints would be nice as well

[@pauljohnson3132]

I use a mod that is a 100% air tight and does not conduct heat. Could not play without it.

[@flowergurl1009]

I'm glad I have to wait for the bio bots so I won't have to worry about the crashes lmao

[@trunghieunguyen547]

Hopefully they will add in flying critter condo since we already have the ground and aquatic one. Would be cool to see gasmoo or puft interact with them.

[@Luma_plays]

Yes something like a giant bird house with a smaller bird house on it. Big one for moos and small one for pufts and shinebugs

[@mooshstudiosofficial]

The Parts Where The Game Crashes Is Extremely Hilarious That It Gave Us A Good Laugh 😂😂😂

[@bpindel]

So basically, they nerfed the hell out of starvation chambers...

[@boiiiiiii5741]

I better get job as a physicist after i get to late game.

[@greggorytame6672]

2:15 uhhh. i don't think the water was disconnected. you can even see a split frame water going into it

[@Luma_plays]

I know; and you are correct. I had 6 minutes of that recorded. The building was not working AT ALL without the pipe connected. when i added a pipe it was still not working. it had to be a pipe with liquid in it. I guess 1 rehydration process takes over 20kg of water? otherwise i can't explain why it behaved like that

[@greggorytame6672]

@@Luma_plays what if you connected it to a single piece of pipe full of water?

[@Theyflower]

What new happiness level is equivalent to the old max happiness?

[@pauloandre8078]

amazing video Luma, as always

[@mastervule1844]

Does that critter mood update means the end of shinebug reactor? Tbh I like when they tweak some stuff like this, some of the more exploit-ish stuff in the game cane be so easy at times

[@Luma_plays]

I linked the Video you want to see at the end ;) it is called "does this still work" it includes shinebug reactors and so on

[@mastervule1844]

@@Luma_plays haha responded my question before I made it :P

[@Rak0705]

so are we need a new save for the new biobot in the world?

[@Lorens4444]

Currently, the only way to stop dupes from rehydrating the food is to disable rehydrator. Otherwise you'd simply waste plastic and natural gas.

[@Luma_plays]

You probably mean the dehydrator? The rehydrator uses Water and power.

[@Lorens4444]

@Luma_plays No, dehydrating the food is fine. However, if you are going to rehydrate the food shortly after that, then the natural gas and plastic were wasted for no reason, not to mention that food quality went down. All I'm saying is that it's impossible to disable dupes from consuming rehydrated food while allowing to eat the one that wasn't dehydrated of the same type without disabling Rehydrator.

[@Luma_plays]

@@Lorens4444 Oh yeah right. Where is the plastic going?!

[@Luma_plays]

@@Lorens4444 Yes i was wondering how to deactivate that as well. The Food Vitals Screen dis not give an option for that. Klei Probably just needs to add a button "eat fresh food first"

[@MelfiortheOne]

Imagine to use 12 kilograms of plastic to wrap your food 😏

[@MrRafagigapr]

its ok , there are no turtles in oni , and it makes food have infinite shelf life so it must be thick AF

[@mclimmclim7496]

always thanks for great video :D

[@Luma_plays]

Hey mclim! Thank you alot for still being there for me :)

[@danya.3xl]

Где найти клетку склад?

[@Luma_plays]

I am not sure what "warehouse' is. Maybe google translated that wrong into english.

[@danya.3xl]

what you need to study to open "Storage Tile", started a new game but didn’t find this particular cell. Although this may be because I started the Vanilla version, I also have the expansion. @@Luma_plays

[@gabrielmarkin5791]

black hole ate klei :)

[@lonelyPorterCH]

Seems quite unstable^^

[@roeland8632]

Can you make a new pacu farm.

[@Luma_plays]

I will try to

[@SaturnusDK]

You can check out my new pacu farm on the forum. The thread is called: "The pacu box is dead. Long live the pacu box" Most important thing to realize is that a liquid tile means any amount of liquid, so grams of liquid is enough for the pacu to consider it a liquid tile.

[@soukuw9146]

deja vu...hmmm

[@Luma_plays]

Understandable. I went in to the official release and tried catching all the differences. But it is very close to the testing branch. At that time I already had alot of recordings so i went ahead and made the video anyways.

[@mario6826]

thx!

[@robinfox4440]

Am I the only one who thinks the dehydrator should use power??

[@Luma_plays]

I get where you are coming from,. When i first checked it i thought the same then i saw that it uses natural gas and it probably implies that it uses a natural gas burner. I thought it would be either power to electrically heat up the thing or with the gas burner.

[@realmadu]

Luma do more let's play pleasee

[@callummcneill6266]

The biobot seems very unethical lol

[@M4niacks2]

Is it meddling with an deadlyvirus in a way that could go bad at any moment dangerous? sure. But so is half the shit going on in this asteroid cluster. Ethically we print duplicants out of thin air just to do our bidding, we are already questionably using our ability to create life.

[@Youmu_Konpaku_]

Infinite pacu farm ;-;

[@nintenzo203]

Gutes Englisch mein Breh :D

[@Luma_plays]

Ich bemüh mich 😅

[@dr.chimpanz.1324]

It giving water could be powerful. Infinite food and plastic is not difficult.

[@turboimport95]

I actually thought of this when i heard it gives water, but it needs water to dethaw the food etc. Need to do some testing to see if it produces more then it uses.

[@M4niacks2]

The amount of water it gives is so small, 1kg per Kcal. Any food with water in it's production would be net negative, and even if you managed to get the equivalent of 100 dupes of constant food supply with otherwise free food, and completely free plastic you would only increase your colony water output by about 0.16kg/sec. But if you needed petroleum to make that plastic, simply running that petroleum in a generator instead would make more water. So unless you got some infinite free Glossy drecko shenanigans on top of free food, you won't get more water that way.

[@dr.chimpanz.1324]

@@M4niacks2 i have 500 tons of plastic burning a whole in my eyes from glossy dreckos so plastic isn't a concern. It probably still not worth tho.

[@hiromasaki9436]

This video should be Luma and his crashes 😂😂😂

[@Luma_plays]

xD i only included a few. It has been over 17