BATTLE OF THE DRAFT CLASSES: 2019-20 VS. 2020-21 OPTIC HOBBY BOXES

[@PackmanCards]

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[@brendanhedger7193]

idea for a battle which would be cool, and cool to be part of, Packman v packfam. You take names of packfam (KZbin channel members) that would buy the box and randomly pick a member. (Give them 12 hours to get in contact and send you funds to buy the box.) You buy your self a box. Bust both boxs. Compare boxs. Like normal, send out the box the packfam member brought. You keep yours.

[@swaggyn2187]

You should do 2010 blaster box and all the rest every year till now!! That would be a fire vid just like all your other vids🔥🔥

[@PackmanCards]

@@brendanhedger7193 that sounds like a lot of fun!

[@Mongkey007]

Prizm vs optic vs select

[@cheesecurdcards457]

Eminence vs. 2017 Poop donruss

[@Knicks176]

Breaking: Despite Ms. Packman not being in the battle, she has still once again beaten Packman

[@freshsfinds508]

Both of those were tough! I guess the luck from last night’s breaks didn’t carry over. Nice video though! The real winner was Panini! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks! We were all out of luck for this one!

[@kingdomrips]

No doubt panini won on this one .

[@ryanj7956]

2019 wins but these were pretty rough for the price. This is why people are willing to pay 3x for retail. Less upside but you aren't going to be out $1k with nothing to show for it.

[@robertcopeland2946]

That first box was bad. But this one time I walked in on my grandmother having a shower, so no it is not the worst box I have ever seen - but close!

[@michaelc1154]

I’m pretty convinced that all rookies cards now are purposely off centered and baldy misprinted to lower the chances of pulling a gem

[@Clintscollectiblez]

Ya they can control the machines that cut cards and dial it in but they produce so much it just happens that's why they do those premium fotl boxes and put the nicely cut ones in it

[@RD-dd9ol]

I like this box battle idea, but maybe you should do 19-20 vs. 20-21 blasters or mega boxes. That way you’re not risking $1800 on a bunch of junk lol

[@scoa]

Wow. That first box was rough. Reminds me of the kind of box that made me loose interest in the hobby for quite a number of years back when I was in high school. My box of Fleer at that time though only cost me like $50 (but $50 for me at that time was tons). Best card was valued at $0.75 in Beckett Magazine.

[@Josh_17]

The quality control on that 20/21 box was nothing short of impeccable. 10’s everywhere.

[@nicholasmacdonald4510]

18:50 I remember when golden state drafted Poole I was absolutely raging about not picking keldon johnson

[@mattheww2480]

I mean Keldon has been really good as well.

[@TooMighty]

Both Poole and Keldon are very good and promising young players

[@northernlight777]

OMG that first box was absolutely atrocious!! I wasn't impressed with the 19 - 20 box either. Thanks for the entertainment... On your dime.

[@jaymahnC5]

I like the pack battles. Uninspiring boxes but number 2 a little better

[@thatpersonincornerdrawinga5496]

That first one is every hobby box I’ve ever opened ever. Lol

[@beelor5777]

Yeah it does seem like there are a lot more products this year compared to last year and the year before. Its almost as if panini is cashing in on the hype.

[@robertmiles6805]

Love it. Coolass vid PackMan! Really enjoy the VS. series! 🤑 Retail VS. would be awesome too. All the off stamped rookies though! 😡 Come on Panini!! Worst box of Optic I've ever seen opened in my life!! Yup!! I bet.

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks! The 20-21 box was all time bad!

[@JChamberlin]

2020-21... seriously what's up with all of the rated rookie cards being mis-stamped or whatever it's called? I can't imagine paying that kind of money for this quality of a product.

[@rynemoots6212]

should definitely do football vs basketball like this. what's more worth the money. or do boombox vs between the sports

[@kingdomrips]

Tough breaks , the 19-20 box is definitely better but the bar is so low for both of those boxes . Great video though.

[@bluejayfan5584]

Remember the good old days? 2 autos and a mem for under $200. But I like base I like whole sets.

[@Yessumm]

This would’ve been good video at start of 2020 but feel like a box/pack from each year for past 10 years or something would be cool. But also expensive.

[@packnation6769]

Who ever you think wins should go against Lukas class if you’re able to do that, I think it would be a good video

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

Luka is his own class, I love Ja and Lamelo but Luka is too clutch for them

[@garyvanzante9144]

Gotta go with 2019-20 for sure thanks for sharing! 🏀🏀🏀

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks for watching!

[@OnCourseChronicles]

Just finished the Donruss Choice video, now I get to watch an Optic video! Great video!

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks!!

[@twisterduck1944]

This year’s basketball has been hard for me also. My only saving grace this year has been baseball for me which is ironic since baseball’s rookie class wasn’t great. Funny how that works lol

[@trevorwright7576]

2020 optic box was an absolute disgrace. Panini should be ashamed

[@emirkulovic713]

I like your idea 💡 draft class battles 👌 2019-2020 wins but not by much I'd say.

[@Klaus119]

I love this idea. But I’m split 50/50 on how the rookie rated look.

[@joesmith2234]

2019 was cheaper when it came out too I think I only spent $450 on a hobby box last year compared to the 1,000 2021 was

[@zoosportscards7968]

Sheesh!😡The good thing is there’s only up after those boxes!! Keep up the great content & GL on the next rip!!

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks! Hoping for much better luck next time!

[@IsaacArgentina1]

This is why I dont get the hate for NBA Premium Stock, every "premium" I've encountered has been terrible with inserts and parallel rates (Topps Chrome, Prizm, Optic, Bowman Chrome) Premium Stock actually at least was very minimal with inserts.

[@Snickerszn]

Prizm and optic are very hard very big set!

[@CardCity]

I like the 19-20 optic hobby more IMO

[@brianordille13]

idk how to prove it but i like that idea that product this year has definitely felt “watered down”

[@teamsycon]

2019-20 was a little less meh than the 2020-21. Still loved the battle.

[@yongwilson7859]

PacMan it’s been awhile for me, but still support by watching and hitting that like button. Second box was better than first but it’s not saying too much on both! Good luck next time! Aloha n mahalo, YWilson

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks a lot! Hoping for much better luck next time!

[@thaddeusodonnell3986]

I guess I'll say the 19 20 ..pretty discouraging to see when you've be saving up for one of the recent optics..if I got n o numbered off a hobby box I'd be pretty ticked.

[@thaddeusodonnell3986]

Also ordered one of the megas and then looked at your recap and saw they didn't even have numbered..that was a serious face palm. Gotta do more research before ordering.

[@zachpinz5038]

Do More battles

[@DNorbs7]

Panini should have to make public apologies every time a box with about a $500 SRP breaks like that 2020-21 box did. Yeesh. Optic is so tough; I've seen so many godawful boxes which makes me really appreciate the great Optic singles when I see them.

[@northernlight777]

I'd like to see a National Treasures versus!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@scottst1112]

I've opened flea market $.25 grab bags better than that 20-21 optic hobby box... I'd send this in to Panini, after filing a damaged cards claim, because I set them on fire to end the video.

[@PackmanCards]

😂

[@paullmight42]

i like 2021 Silvers better, i really dig the whole card holos...but i like last years design better...a whole hobby of mis-stamped rooks tho, damn

[@PattersonPacks]

Loving the vs. series man! I think I like the 2020-21 Optic better.

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks!

[@grahamhang178]

20-21 was the worst hobby pull of all time. It didn’t take much for 2019-2020 to beat it.

[@Shmelly98]

Video concept 10/10 really like the year to year comparison, that 20-21 box hurt my soul wish you could have got something better my guy!

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks! Hoping for better luck next time!

[@mco3834]

Love these videos I really want to see more breaks vs hobby

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks! We’ll definitely have more in the future!

[@Boise_Nation]

Cool idea... maybe open both boxes and do pack v pack battle? 2020 then 2021 back to 2020... etc

[@zkjman]

Wow... I would be so incredibly mad if I bought a 800 dollar box and every single rookie was off stamped. Absolutely pathetic by Panini

[@hudsonsheat9573]

PACKMAN I LOVE YOU

[@PackmanCards]

❤️

[@slackattack3460]

Hey packman, I was wondering if you could give a setup tour? And if you could also show us what phone holder you use and what microphone you use. If you use any lighting tricks as well you could put that in there. Just a little video suggestion 😅 would really appreciate it, thanks man!!

[@rhysthomas3358]

I was in a 2x 20-21 Optic fast break box break on the weekend and the only fast break card in the first box was the auto. Breaker felt so bad he opened a third box and only the Auto and the inserts were fast break. Optic been really disappointing this year.

[@robertcolgan6390]

You should do the same thing with any brand. But go pack to pack and keep score by pack.

[@DLUXTHACHAMP]

19-20 had more value than 20-21. Sucks you didn't get Ja, Zion or Lamelo, Ant-Man. I still think 20-21 has better inserts.

[@robglobal1]

2019-20 draft class will end up being the better class and are so much cheaper at the moment. Outside Bane Vassel and Bay prices are too high on this class

[@shredfn9988]

2019-20 doesn’t just win over 2020-21, but over every draft class ever!

[@zacharyeisig5826]

Packman, you should do a new video series where you highlight your top 10ish cards of each NBA team. Like one video per team so we could see some of the cool stuff in your PC. Just an idea. Love the videos man

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks! That’d be a lot of fun!

[@JoeDirt880]

I think you need to send an email telling them you got 2 defective boxes and have them send you 2 replacements 😅 that was roughhh.

[@PackmanCards]

For real lol. The 20-21 was all time bad

[@judebach4096]

Can you explain the Team selecting and random selection at the beginning of the videos? Does that like signify what people get what players you pull from certain teams?

[@Jim-kf9ld]

You should battle with revolutions. That would be sick.

[@PackmanCards]

I’d love to do one with revolution!

[@danielvargas3561]

Man if I paid $500-$600 for that hobby box and pulled absolutely nothing, I'd be so mad. I feel they're overprinting everything now.

[@timmetzler9443]

2019-20, hands down

[@RockyBoBo8611]

2011 vs 2013 nfl prism would be awesome

[@oliverwyman9911]

Great series!

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks!

[@lxalmightyxl]

Send the first box back to Panini....WOW

[@nlee8368]

The 2020-21 was BRUTAL.....

[@nlee8368]

Hobby always has a higher ceiling and a lower bottom in my opinion.

[@bradmccubbin1569]

19-20 wins and I would buy the inserts for 10

[@gamebroskii438]

ive missed big in every optic break. select was amazing. Optic is a yikes for me.

[@actionjackson9546]

Cole Anthony so far this year: 19.5 ppg 6.9 rebounds 5.4 assists At least some respect for the dude

[@legndzzz-editz603]

I love the vs series definitely one of the best keep it up

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks a lot!

[@masonwooliver9005]

Football vs Basketball would be fun

[@MattyCorcoran]

Ill pay you 10 dollars for that stack for sure. Make it 20 with that saben lee

[@puremaniac3171]

Don’t sleep on saben lee bro. Dude dropped 42 in the g league and he’s only there cuz detroits stupid. Once they get rid of Cory Joseph and frank jackson it’s saben lee szn

[@cheesecurdcards457]

19-20, nickeil man he has been destroying on fantasy for me so definitely 19-20

[@bigballer2683]

Epic

[@noahfisherthegamingkid6552]

Do you get these packs in a store or online

[@Jmt_rips]

19-20 with the win

[@crazycardcollectibles9678]

It seems like the mega boxes are better

[@michaelzornes4179]

Just opening the 19-20 box is win over that horrible box

[@mattbaldridge8524]

Great content once again thank you for making such cool and expensive videos

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks for watching!

[@boxscorehub]

How can the US currency be cut efficiently but these companies can’t cut for shhhhhhhh-

[@saulgeng9881]

Honestly, the only winner is Panini

[@carlbancoro3042]

Packman coming in with the heat 🔥🔥🔥

[@danieldoherty1490]

Do this same thing but optic football?

[@Dblezip96]

I can’t wait for this years draft class to come out I want a Scottie Barnes card sooo bad lol

[@shawns.2830]

Dear Fanatics, invest in quality control when you take over.

[@brooksbeaz3027]

That Ja you got is sick!

[@thehut5373]

Congrats on getting some “Ghost” Rated Rookies lol QC seems to not be on the minds of Panini

[@damienbailey5547]

Would love to see football vs basketball!

[@andrewjones9245]

Keep the videos coming man! Love them.

[@PackmanCards]

Thanks!!

[@Drewmisley]

I cant call it bro. I think they were both bad. Maybe 19-20 was a hair better. I like the auto in 19-20. I like those retro series autos. Of good players obviously but still like the design.

[@johnwing5055]

Love the battle 19-20 won

[@mdisbro]

The prices are so stupid man & to compound the thievery the product is watered down 3-4x if I’m being super conservative! 700$ for 70$ worth of cards if you find a sucker or two 😂😂

[@SilentStrike889]

Panini "Demand is going through the roof. Let's print as much as we can but the only people we can get to cut the cards is some blind guys. Oh almost forgot we need a bounus this year raise prices 30%

[@SuperBrewdog]

dude I'm sorry... what a rip-off optic has been in 20-21... $750???? how? this is so not worth it to me personally. But hey man appreciate as always you taking the hit for our entertainment, lol. Thanks Packman, and sorry for Panini's greed on this. Also it would be cool to hear both the cost point and how much you currently value the cards from each box, I don't really know enough to judge but I feel like it's not much from either box.

[@PackmanCards]

The value was pretty low. The Nickeil is definitely a good card but everything else was very bad lol

[@austinfinke7006]

you should do this with football too!

[@cmac9141]

I ripped 3 optic fat packs and pulled a lamelo and an antman.

[@PackmanCards]

Congrats!

[@GummieRipz]

Probably could have had better luck with a mega or a cello pack honestly

[@Justin21886]

Id play $10 for the 2021 “hit” stack for that desmond bane! Go Grizzlies!

[@Clintscollectiblez]

Proof you better off just buying that one card you want instead of trying to pull one buying $1000+ hobby boxes

[@blakenp1401]

Ripped two Absolute megas and got Josh Palmer’d twice and nobody’s for my autos 😂

[@PackmanCards]

😭

[@courtside_cardz5790]

u should do a challenge with ms packman where u have to open a box and have the choice to stop at any point when u have a good card or keep going and then u reveal the cards to each other and whoever has the better card wins