Pagan Origins of Yahweh DEBUNKED!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Joel's Channel: www.youtube.com/@JoelKorytko

[@chimpanzee21]

Thank you for making this video.

[@Ajzgut]

Billy is making more video with some bald guy with glasses who claim to be christian deacon can you make shorts and debunk their claims thanks

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

Bro in Genesis Name Yahve apear to Jakob , point is that Abraham, Isac and Jakob didn't know meaning, Character behind Yahve Name.

[@paneraemployee12]

Have you seen the channel “Esoterica”? He’s got a video about how “Yahweh” goes from being a warrior storm God to being the God of the Israelites. That was the first place I saw this argument being made and I’m glad to see it being addressed.

[@ShinobiShaman]

I'm not inspired. THE ELEPHANTINE PAPYRI DOCUMENTS TRUMP ANYTHING YOU SAID. At a time when the Israelites were supposed to be monotheistic, they were polytheistic. End of discussion. If you want to continue to believe in fairytales, have at it. I'd rather live in the real world.

[@Stephans_History_of_the_World]

Heeey Michael! Thanks for the critical analysis of my video. Seen a few minutes and seems fair and knowledgeable so far. Hopefully I can find the time soon to watch the whole thing. Totally willing to amend any errors in my vid (as the corrections in my video description already show). Happy New Years!

[@preston7846]

@@Stephans_History_of_the_World you're a cool dude!! And we all love a fellow historian! Keep up the good work! History is a very important thing to learn. Every aspect of ethnic culture, religion, and geography is just wonderful. I don't think you're Christian but I want you to know that we love you and are praying for you!!!

[@Stephans_History_of_the_World]

@preston7846 Thanks for the kind words. I have a huge appreciation for Christianity though. Working now on a lecture about how early Christianity outcompeted Roman paganism through their charity and early hospitals for the poor.

[@munashemanamike4217]

​@@Stephans_History_of_the_World Thank you for that.

[@sigurdholbarki8268]

​@@Stephans_History_of_the_WorldI'm looking forward to that, you're a gentleman and scholar, sir

[@masonwoodward3676]

Happy New Years!! 👍

[@StileandRailWoodworking]

I'm so glad my cat stopped drinking months ago.

[@markmcflounder15]

Same! Which is really weird.......cuz I don't have a cat. I need to get out of the house more often

[@servantofaeie1569]

I just lost my cat a few months ago. Now you've reminded me :(

[@zaoific]

Been trying to get my cat to start drinking. So far, no such luck with whiskey.

[@tubaszuba]

Lol I saw your comment before I watched the video. Quite disconcerting! 😂

[@Jesusandmentalhealth]

@@StileandRailWoodworking 😂😂😂😂😂

[@justmorenoise]

Excited to see Wes Buff 💪 on Roe Rogan …

[@joab757]

Really? Is it new?

[@joab757]

Just saw he just did it. That’s awesome

[@justmorenoise]

@@joab757 I keep checking PowerfulJRE KZbin. Nothing yet but it’s been filmed and Rogan doesn’t usually sit on things. Should be one of his week day episodes for this week, maybe next but we will see. 💪🙂🙂🙂

[@justmorenoise]

@@joab757 he does about 3 episodes a week I think. Should be coming up soon

[@emilianohermosilla3996]

Dying to see it!!!

[@elweycristiano64]

It doesn't have much to do with what I will say first, but it is somewhat annoying about some channels that seek to speak in a general and academic way about a religion in its origins. The comments on the videos are the worst part, because I see people insinuating that with that information the Christianity and religions are destroyed or falsified, looking for fights and insults, I saw a comment say "people in the 21st century believe in a Jewish god" appealing to ad ridiculum and other fallacies without understanding the arguments against various secular hypotheses and within the academy, and they think that with this there is already an answer for their atheism when a basis is needed for naturalism and its materialism that they support in doctrines and dogmas. It's just my opinion, good live and pleasant chat there was IP!

[@steelfalconx2000]

It is interesting. Atheists will watch a video like that and then any evidence of Jesus, Christianity, miracles, the crucifixion, the messianic prophecies, the modern miracles, are completely gone. I do agree they are very obnoxious in their comments sections. But I think we also have to remember, as Christians we are supposed to bring forth the light of God into the world, and honestly we act very similar in comment sections. Not you or this comment or anything, just in general something to think of.

[@elweycristiano64]

@steelfalconx2000 fr my friend

[@CallmeTomorrow65]

Yea and Christians are well known for being civil in their discussions. According to Dante, the hypocrites are condemned to be eternally crushed under leaden cloaks.

[@JustCJson]

as an agnostic, i agree that the majority of atheist dont know how to debate with honesty, but in reality it too is valid for theist, ive seen many theists without understanding atheists arguments and just jumping to the conclusion that dont believing or doubting the existence of a supreme being is nonsense 🤷‍♂️ the basis for naturalism and materialism is that the world SEEMS to work only by natural phenomenon (after all you dont find something that breaks the laws of nature in your daily life), not an arbitrary dogma or doctrine, after all we can only perceive natural phenomenon, the majority of materialists and naturalists think that we can only know the things that we can perceive with our senses, they cant believe in something that they cant perceive by any mean, its just it

[@mysotiras21]

Agreed. A basis is needed for asserting naturalism and materialism, just as it is needed for any other assertion about how reality works.

[@fr.jeremiahcaughran6191]

Woo! John Currid name dropped. Against the Gods is a great book dealing with how much of the early OT is a polemic against other gods. He was one of my profs in seminary.

[@hweiktomeyto]

While I knew how to respond to this months ago, I still have to thank you for removing my biggest doubts about my faith. It was your shorts defending Christianity that directly obliterated my doubts

[@SeagullTheStealer]

I think all this "confusion" about Yahweh strengthens the plurality within the Godhead to the umpteenth degree. You have verses like Zechariah 2:10-11, where Yahweh of Hosts is sending Yahweh to dwell among us. Then you have verses like Numbers 23:8, where you have El in the first half, then Yahweh in the second half. The passage with El+Yahweh could very well refer to the same God (just like the verses about two Yawheh figures do, and have clearly been confirmed by Jesus, either through His referencing the Old Testament, or through fulfilling prophecies reserved for Yahweh), but two different persons of the Godhead. The people not versed in the Bible - or simply those who ignore Jesus's relevation of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit - then go on and misinterpret these passages as contradictions or evidence of polytheism. Merely being aware of the Trinitarian framework ceases to make these verses confusing, provided the person isn't deceived by the spirit of pride, or ignorance (or both). In short, Yahweh El solos. All glory to Him.

[@mysotiras21]

Thanks. I don't have enough free hours to watch this at present, but I am sure it is dynamite. "Yahweh was just a pagan Canaanite deity" has become a favorite argument of some Christophobes recently. Let's bury that assertion! BTW, you should consider putting time stamps or summaries on these excessively long videos. A help for working folk with limited free time

[@midimusicforever]

This is great and important, Michael!

[@anandrew6641]

Thanks for another awesome episode!

[@GodLRCN]

Finally someone who’s knowledgeable talking about this topic, everytime I see “scholars” try to talk about this topic it’s with a definite agenda of using it as a “aha” moment against the Bible and Christian’s, without ANY knowledge of our Biblical Texts and the reasons for it. Thank you IP God bless you and your work ❤️❤️❤️

[@MrKangueira]

It’s important to clarify a significant misunderstanding in this discussion: while Michael Jones (Inspiring Philosophy) presents himself as knowledgeable on topics like early Israelite religion, his qualifications and methods cannot compare to those of trained scholars in the field. Let’s explore why, by looking at the credentials and work of leading experts versus Michael Jones’s background and approach. The Scholars: Credentials, Fieldwork, and Language Expertise Francesca Stavrakopoulou (Ph.D., Theology, University of Oxford) Position: Professor of Hebrew Bible and Ancient Religion at the University of Exeter. Expertise: Early Israelite religion, polytheism, and the evolution of Yahweh worship. Fieldwork: Uses archaeological evidence and ancient Near Eastern texts to contextualize biblical traditions. Languages: Reads Hebrew, Ugaritic, and other ancient Semitic languages. Key Work: God: An Anatomy explores how Yahweh was conceived anthropomorphically and his early associations with other deities like Asherah. Mark S. Smith (Ph.D., Near Eastern Studies, Yale University) Position: Professor at Princeton Theological Seminary. Expertise: Transition from Israelite polytheism to monotheism; Ugaritic texts and their relationship to the Bible. Fieldwork: Analyzes ancient texts and inscriptions to reconstruct early Israelite religion. Languages: Fluent in Hebrew, Ugaritic, Akkadian, and other ancient languages. Key Work: The Early History of God and The Origins of Biblical Monotheism-landmark studies of Israelite religion and Yahweh's rise to prominence. Dan McClellan (Ph.D., Theology and Religion, University of Exeter) Expertise: Early Israelite religion, cognitive linguistics, and biblical textual studies. Languages: Skilled in biblical Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Fieldwork: Engages with ancient inscriptions and biblical manuscripts. Key Contribution: Actively debunks misinformation about the Bible through a scholarly and evidence-based approach, often correcting the kind of oversimplifications propagated in apologetics. Kipp Davis (Ph.D., Dead Sea Scrolls and Biblical Studies, University of Manchester) Expertise: Dead Sea Scrolls, textual criticism, and early Jewish sectarianism. Fieldwork: Hands-on examination of ancient manuscripts, including identifying forgeries. Languages: Proficient in Hebrew, Aramaic, and related ancient languages. Archaeologists and Field Evidence William G. Dever (Ph.D., Near Eastern Archaeology, Harvard University): Excavations have uncovered Asherah figurines and inscriptions like “Yahweh and his Asherah,” confirming early Israelite polytheism. Ze’ev Meshel: Discovered inscriptions at Kuntillet Ajrud, providing direct evidence of Yahweh’s worship alongside Asherah. Avraham Faust (Ph.D., Archaeology, Bar-Ilan University): Studies settlement patterns and artifacts that reflect early Yahweh worship and its development. Inspiring Philosophy (Michael Jones): A Lack of Expertise Credentials: Holds a master’s degree in philosophy, which is unrelated to the study of biblical texts, ancient religions, or archaeology. Languages: Does not read the original languages of the Bible (Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek) or the languages of related ancient texts like Ugaritic or Akkadian. Fieldwork: Has not conducted fieldwork or handled ancient texts, relying entirely on secondary sources. Approach: His arguments are based on translations, KZbin videos, and apologetic interpretations, which lack the rigor and depth of scholarly research. Evidence That Scholars Have Done the Work Polytheism in Early Israelite Religion: Inscriptions such as "Yahweh and his Asherah" from Kuntillet Ajrud and Khirbet el-Qom are direct archaeological evidence of polytheism, studied by archaeologists and linguists. Scholars like Mark S. Smith and Francesca Stavrakopoulou analyze this evidence alongside the biblical texts to reconstruct the historical context. Divine Council Theology: Passages like Deuteronomy 32:8-9 (in its original form) describe Yahweh as one of the "sons of El," reflecting the polytheistic roots of Israelite religion. Scholars like John J. Collins and Dan McClellan have traced this concept across ancient texts. Textual Studies: Experts like Kipp Davis analyze manuscripts and variants, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, to uncover how biblical monotheism emerged over time. Why Scholars Are More Credible Field Expertise: Scholars like Stavrakopoulou and Smith spend decades mastering ancient languages, studying artifacts, and contextualizing biblical texts in the cultures that produced them. Rigorous Methods: Their work is peer-reviewed and evidence-based, grounded in primary sources like inscriptions, ancient manuscripts, and archaeological discoveries. Comparative Analysis: They integrate insights from ancient Near Eastern religions, including Ugaritic and Canaanite traditions, to understand how Yahweh evolved from a regional deity to the sole God of Israel. While Michael Jones may have a large following and presents his arguments confidently, his work cannot substitute for the expertise of scholars who have dedicated their lives to studying these topics. The claim that "scholars have an agenda" dismisses the rigorous, evidence-based work of highly credentialed individuals who work with original sources and artifacts. Unlike Jones, these scholars do the fieldwork, read the original languages, and engage critically with the evidence, providing a far more reliable understanding of early Israelite religion. Respecting expertise is crucial, especially in discussions about complex historical and theological topics. Discrediting scholars in favor of unqualified individuals does a disservice to the truth.

[@MrSeedi76]

​@@MrKangueira😂 you already lost when you start out by calling Francesca a great scholar. We heart about the "Diablocritics" and they're a joke 😂.

[@MrKangueira]

@@MrSeedi76 "You 'lost' the moment you referenced actual scholars like Francesca?" Let me guess: dismissing years of academic research with emojis and buzzwords like "Diablocritics" makes you feel like you’ve scored a victory? It’s funny how people who lack even the basic qualifications to understand these topics somehow believe they’ve outsmarted scholars with Ph.D.s in biblical studies and decades of fieldwork. Here’s the reality: Francesca Stavrakopoulou has a Ph.D. from Oxford University, is a professor of Hebrew Bible and Ancient Religion, and reads the Bible in its original Hebrew and related Semitic languages like Ugaritic. She has published peer-reviewed work that reconstructs the historical context of Israelite religion. Mark S. Smith, another "diabolical scholar" you might laugh at, has a Ph.D. from Yale in Near Eastern Studies. He is fluent in Hebrew, Ugaritic, Akkadian, and other ancient languages-languages Michael Jones doesn’t even attempt to read. His books, like The Early History of God, are foundational texts in understanding how Yahweh emerged in a polytheistic context. Dan McClellan, whom you might dismiss with another laugh emoji, has a Ph.D. from the University of Exeter, specializing in early Israelite religion. He actively corrects misinformation from apologists like Michael Jones, using primary sources and linguistic analysis that apologists can't even begin to comprehend. Now, let’s compare this to Michael Jones (Inspiring Philosophy): He has a master’s degree in philosophy, which equips him to debate abstract concepts like metaphysics but gives him no authority over ancient texts or archaeology. He doesn’t read Hebrew, Ugaritic, or Akkadian, so he relies on English translations and secondary sources, cherry-picking whatever supports his apologetic agenda. He has never done fieldwork or worked with ancient texts, unlike the archaeologists and textual scholars whose research he dismisses with zero qualifications to do so. Let me simplify it for you: If your car breaks down, do you listen to the guy with a KZbin channel or a certified mechanic? If you’re sick, do you trust a doctor with years of medical training or someone who read WebMD? Yet when it comes to ancient history and religion, you somehow trust the philosophical KZbinr over actual experts because his conclusions align with your beliefs. That’s not intellectual engagement-it’s cognitive bias at its finest. As for your dismissive "Diablocritics" label, it’s just a lazy attempt to avoid engaging with facts. Scholars don’t aim to "destroy Christianity"; they aim to understand the origins of religious traditions through evidence and critical analysis. The only "joke" here is thinking you’ve won an argument by mocking their credentials rather than addressing their work. But hey, keep laughing and tossing out emojis. It doesn’t make your argument stronger-it just makes your inability to engage with real evidence even more obvious.

[@BrghtScorpio]

​@@MrKangueira watch as they miss the point🗿

[@chimpanzee21]

Thank you for this video

[@paradisecityX0]

That's how certain Israelites viewed Yahweh -- the great God of thunder and storm, depicted as the divine warrior. That's ontologically not the case but for more into Israelite Religions, Rick Hess' book of the same name is recommended. But even granting this pathetic attempt at a "gotcha" (because Anti-theists desperately try to justify their unbelief with anything), Yahweh is just the Hebrew version of the one God; El Shaddai, Brahman, Shangdi, Ahura Mazda, Illah, the Great Spirit, Rainbow Serpent, etc. are other cultures' versions of the one God -- the Prime Mover and uncreated Creator of all that is, the source of all life and eternal force behind the laws of physics and probability. What idolaters did in the past (and still do today on both sides of the political isle) doesn't change that fact

[@alanx4121]

He, Jehovah God, creates storms and has power over them which is another proof for the deity of Jesus Christ.

[@paradisecityX0]

More like set storms in motion

[@alanx4121]

@@paradisecityX0 Psa 107:25-29 KJV 25 For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof. 26 They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble. 27 They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wits' end. 28 Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses. 29 He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.

[@paradisecityX0]

Yeah, and?

[@NTPodcast7]

Thank you, Michael! Good answers, and I hope there will be enough donations to continue such quality work!

[@showmeanedge]

I see this coming up lately and all I can think is "Yeah, the book of Exodus (and the entire rest of the OT) lays all of this out. Why are you bringing it up like it's something novel?"

[@stevej71393]

Their ultimate objective is to destroy people's faith, so they'll say anything that they think suits this goal.

[@showmeanedge]

@stevej71393 it's so transparent that it's hard to believe it could fool anybody.

[@adoge1175]

This is a great video, happy new year IP!

[@1whitemoon]

hi, hebrew speaking jew here. we're very serious about not saying g-d's name out loud, or even writing it, expect on Torah scrolls/ praying books. so it's not surprising no city/person is named after yahwe. we don't even pronounce that name duting prayer, we say elokim instead. there's no problem saying "el" though, which is probably why it's common in hebrew names from the biblical time. anyway, yahwe is not pronounced this way in hebrew- it sound like the combination of the 3 words for was, is and will be. no mystery there. it's the source of the name. it also has deeper meanings/powers, and refers to how g-d reveals himsilf and how he leads the world, different names are associated with judment, mercy, etc.

[@silive4067]

Letsss gooo been waiting. For this

[@emilianohermosilla3996]

I saw this video a few days ago, what a treat to see you talk about it 😁

[@Jenb-pj9qc]

Thank you so much for bring up Mythvision. I'm on my journey to connect with Christ and KZbin keeps pushing them on me! I get a gross feeling from them and I've chalked my feelings to the Lord sharpening my discernment. But then I almost have a battle between who I was when I was falling for New Age witchcraft. Back then I would never call it witchcraft but that's how it operates.

[@johncarloflorentino]

Great stream mike! Happy new year to you and your family.

[@MossW268]

Something I want these scholars to attempt is to take the Diatessaron and try and pick apart the four Gospels.

[@stephengray1344]

Indeed. I think it's quite telling that advocates of the Documentary Hypothesis never point to any examples of attempting to use their methodology on any other text. If it actually worked, they should be able to pull apart the sources of the Diatessaron. And shouldn't be able to divide the text of other texts that aren't compiled from separate sources.

[@Joshua-C-T]

We had Melchizedek who was King of Salem and Priest of El Elyon, before Abram becomes Abraham. In fact Abram gives Melchizedek a tenth of his spoils and it is Melchizedek who blesses Abram not the other way around. The author of Hebrews goes into detail about this, revealing that Jesus Christ re-established the Priesthood in the Order of Melchizedek and is the Eternal High Priest of the Priesthood in the Order of Melchizedek. This is a Priesthood who pre-dates Abraham and God's covenant with him. Melchizedek also brings out Bread and Wine with him to bless Abram. Christianity is the Priesthood in the Order of Melchizedek, we are thinking too temporally minded when dealing with a God who defined time and is outside of it's constraints. The work on the Cross was an event that effected all time, from eternity past to eternity future. Christ teaches that no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those whom the Son chooses to reveal him to. Jesus also teaches that it is the Father who draws us to the Son. As such Melchizedek as Priest of El Elyon (God most high) who is the Father, must have known the Son because it is impossible to know the Father without the Son revealing him to you, and he must have been drawn to the Son by the Father. The author Hebrews goes on to say that Melchizedek is greater than Abraham for Abraham was blessed by him, and without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater and has the Levitical Priesthood paying tithes to Melchizedek through Abraham's tithes to Melchizedek. YHWH had other Priests who would be outside the line of Abraham and as such mostly outside of our Bible under different titles, but same Creator of All. Same as Jethro the priest of Midian who comes to the realization that the God he worshipped is the same God as Yahweh. Though Melchizedek is someone I would argue is an actual Christian as defined as a Priest in the Priesthood in the Order of Melchizedek who holds Christ as High Priest.

[@kakarotwolf]

Imagine sitting with your pastor and asking him: "can i download this game? Or is this a sin?" 😂

[@blessup4796]

58:14 Genesis 29:35 kills this whole argument when read in Hebrew. Leah named her son Yehudah based on the proper name of the LORD.

[@JosiahTheSiah]

1:23:27 Also, consider: When "the most high divided the nations," there was no Israel in the story. Genesis 11 happens before Abraham is ever on the scene. So if you take Deut 32:8 and understand it within that primeval context, then Deut 32:9's context is the making of Abraham into Yahweh's own nation. Israel is not one of the nations that were divided up, but rather a nation made wholly by & for Yaweh.

[@MossW268]

It's a little more complicated because of the numerical value. El is said to have 70 sons, Genesis 11 has 70 nations, and 70 descendants of Jacob went into Egypt

[@xAvagantamos]

@MossW278 Interesting point, but it doesn’t have to be complicated. Israel is the newest nation created specifically by covenant with Abraham, and thus would be the 70th nation chronologically. 70 is 7x10 (7 being a traditional number of perfection). Further, both Jacob and El having 70 sons or descendants reveals that El-Yahweh is the father of all human nations on the planet and their gods (represented by the 70 nations in Genesis 11), just as Jacob is the father of the Israelite nation (represented as his 70 descendants going into Egypt).

[@JosiahTheSiah]

@MossW268 What do you think is the most compelling numerological take regarding the reoccurring number 70?

[@MossW268]

@@JosiahTheSiah 7 is the number of divine perfection and rest, multiplied by 10 to make it greater.

[@JosiahTheSiah]

@MossW268 sure, that's pretty clear. But you said "it's a little more complicated." What did you mean?

[@TerrySampson-j6n]

Thank you for making this really interesting video.

[@joab757]

Too many people with no expertise like Billy Carson spout off nonsense as if it’s fact. Or even if they say, some people believe, when they know it’s already been debunked.

[@senorbb2150]

You can remove the name "Billy Carson" and insert "Inspiring Philosophy" and your sentence will be equally true.

[@herbofly6475]

@ ip actually uses academic sources

[@TallSkinnyGod]

@@senorbb2150 Billy uses less sources than someone like IP and especially by excellent scholars.

[@borneandayak6725]

@@TallSkinnyGod Billy use bad sources. Instead using primary sources like Codex Sinaiticus, he using fake gospel like Gospel of Barnabas.

[@roboticbuthole5384]

Bro I've been searching your channel waiting for you to drop a reply to this. So sick bro thank you!

[@ChatswithSyd]

I’m too focused on the statue having a goatee

[@rysw19]

1:19:24 I mean I’m trying to approach this with an open mind, but it really seems like a contortion to look at these passages and say “oh yeah, they’re definitely only talking about one God”. The obvious reading is that they are talking about more than one deity, with Yahweh being only one of them. You’d have to have some pretty specific evidence to accept something otherwise. “Oh… they were only TALKING like there was more than one god. They really were speaking only conventionally” without any justification doesn’t do it

[@EmilyTodicescu]

An early example of a theophoric name that references Yahweh: Elihu from The Book of Job. Though some have suggested that Elihu means "God is He", Alfred Jones (Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names) thinks the ending is a remnant of יהוה and proposes "God The Lord" ("My God is Yahweh").

[@MACHO_CHICO]

If you have the time it would be helpful to address Esoterica’s videos on Yahweh, considering they have many more views.

[@CommonSense_Skeptic]

@@MACHO_CHICO he's not gonna try to touch that, Justin Sledge (of esoterica) is spot on.. you can also go watch videos by Dr. Bob Cargill " Bible and archaeology" and he'll also point out how Yahweh was adopted into the Canaanite pantheon Deuteronomy chapter 32 verses 8- 12 prove this, especially if you go look at the dead sea scrolls version

[@TallSkinnyGod]

It's not really worth the time, these things have been addressed in academia and there is a deadlock on what is considered what. Scholars have differing opinions and even though it may seem like a problem that there is a deadlock I personally see it as a time to studied other parts of Bible or the ANE. Having studied the development of Yahwism and Ancient Israelite religion, I don't see how some of the points made by some scholars follow and much of it is assumptions made before even looking at the text.

[@RamadaDiver]

​@CommonSense_Skeptic Mant Christians would agree with you that the cannanites planted yhwh into the cannaninte pantheon But this is after yhwh was orginally the God of israelites .

[@ryankelly9032]

@@CommonSense_SkepticI really don’t understand how this addresses or supposedly debunks anything about Christianity. The potential inclusion of Yahweh into a pantheon doesn’t mean He isn’t the one true God. It seems to me like this is the implied in even Genesis. The whole point of Yahweh singling out Abraham was to establish that He isn’t simply one of many, but He is the only true God, and all the other beings they worship are not legitimate and not worthy of worship and have tried to usurp His authority and rightful place as the sole being worthy of worship. He chooses this moment to correct the record, show that the ANE peoples are in error and begin the process of restoring the proper order. This is in no way contradictory to how ANE peoples may have worshipped.

[@JustCJson]

​@@TallSkinnyGod well if you just choose to ignore the scholar consensus to preserve your beliefs, in the end of the day you arent different from them, youre just making an deadlock just like them

[@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x]

They say that YHWH was worshipped along side other gods, so does the Bible. Doesn’t mean the ones who did that idol worship were right. Throughout scripture those idol worshipers and worshippers of false gods and demons were rebuked by the prophets of the one true God, Yaweh and his Son, The Lord Jesus Christ.

[@js1423]

Anne Elise Zernecke recently published a monograph on Elyon, called “Eljon - Höchster Eine Gottesbezeichnung im Pentateuch”

[@RamadaDiver]

I think the biblical authors refer to yhwh as El or elyon generally but if the context involves the israelites they use his name yhwh to show a special / unique relationship

[@CoachBriceWilliams]

Mike! Please post on your SM a slow pan through your library so I can browse the titles. We have a similar library for sure but I see several I might be interested in if I could read the full title. Thanks!

[@anzawilldie4379]

hey Sr. Mr. michael jones, will i be safe in saying that you are working in making a video reaction to dinesh d'souza vs alex o'connor??... the word bloodbath has been said about the event.

[@RamadaDiver]

Deutoronamy 10. 17 also clearly says yhwh is the god of all gods

[@JosiahTheSiah]

1:01:11 early names containing Yahweh? How about Yehoshua. Doesn't get much earlier in Israel's history.

[@EmilyTodicescu]

True! Another possible early example is Elihu from Job. Though some have suggested that Elihu means "God is He", Alfred Jones (Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names) thinks the ending is a remnant of יהוה and proposes "God The Lord" ("My God is Yahweh").

[@adedaporh]

1:23:13 No no no. The text says "his alloted inheritance." Which strongly imply an inheritance from a "father" abd that ties in nicely with the _bene elohim_ .

[@WilliamMoses355]

5:15 Something that always confused me about video game copyright, is that most non-indie games are created by huge teams. Who counts as an "author/creator?" For Civilization, Sid Meier obviously counts, but what about Voice Actor #5? Anyway, I recommend Great Old Games, as a site that has paid for the rights to sell cheap or give away a large number of games that no one else cares about anymore.

[@unisophia]

also, the Hebrew name Eliyahu (Elijah) literally means “My G-d Yah[we]”. which shows that these aren’t two names, but a title and a name. like when you Christians say “My Lord Jesus”. “Lord” isn’t another name of Jesus, it’s his title.

[@Joshua-C-T]

Another interesting occurrence of Baal is in Judges 9. Baal-berith and El-berith. Baal is a title meaning Lord, Berith is translated as covenant. So Baal-berith would be Lord of the Covenant and El-berith would be God of the Covenant. These were being worshipped in Shechem, a place that had a Standing Stone, likely the same one that was set up by Joshua in Joshua 24:27. Through the passing of time the Standing Stone itself becomes an Object of Worship, the Covenant and the Stone that is supposed to be a memorial of that covenant becomes that Object of Worship as opposed to the worship of the Living God, in the same way the Hebrews began to Worship the bronze serpent. Baal-berith and El-berith were the Covenant Standing Stone set up by Joshua in Shechem, and a Tower/Temple arose around it for it's worship. Then God uses Abimelech to burn down the tower of Shechem which is the temple of El-berith which is the Standing Stone memorial of the Covenant between God and Israel for it became an Idol in the land.

[@joshbeaulieu7408]

To be, or not to be; that is the question

[@michaelroots6931]

Look like Wes huff could be on Rogan soon.

[@carissstewart3211]

"Should i break the law?" No. We are commanded to be subject to our rulers. The exception is wherever the oversteps his God-given authority: Do you have the God-given right to that game? Do you have a moral obligation to download and play that game? The same applies to traffic laws.

[@mysotiras21]

Subject to WHICH rulers? The Bible indicates that we are subject to SECULAR authorities, meaning governments (Romans 13:1-7). A pastor is not a government official. Hebrews 13:17 indicates that we should obey our spiritual leaders, like pastors, but the implication is that we obey them on SPIRITUAL matters. Is that game a spiritual matter? A pastor who tries to dictate every facet of the lives of the laity becomes a cult leader, not a servant of Christ.

[@carissstewart3211]

@mysotiras21 my comment was in reference to 4:32. What about my comment suggests I was talking about pastors as opposed to secular rulers? Does your pastor set the traffic laws? Your response reads like a person looking for a fight. On the note of games, though, the media one consumes *is* a spiritual matter. One's intellect and will are spiritual powers of the soul. Thus, every choice you make necessarily involves your soul. If one chooses to steal a game (which is what illegal downloading essentially is), that is a spiritual matter that negatively impacts the soul. If the game contains gross immorality, such as pornography, or even subtle attacks on faith, that also will affect the soul. I don't suppose you remember, but for decades before Obergefell, the Media subtly changed American's attitudes toward LGBT issues, culminating in shows such as Dharma & Greg. American attitudes on abortion shifted after the titular character in Maude (played by Bea Arthur) chose to get an abortion. American attitudes concerning single motherhood shifted following Rachel's lead in Friends. Americans passively consume propaganda which is far more effective at shaping public policy than rational argumentation. I'm not saying you should allow your pastor to micromanage every aspect of your life any more than we should allow the secular government to micromanage every aspect of our lives. But if your pastor says don't play a game, you should at least consider his reasons and not attempt to create a false dichotomy btw "spiritual matters" and regular life.

[@siruristtheturtle1289]

@@carissstewart3211 The principle behind piracy's condemnation is that it takes away from the rightful owner's potential income, something that isn't the case nor makes sense if someone isn't already part of the potential buying base. There's no "stealing" involved in making a virtual copy of a game, that's frankly absurd, and the argument becomes even more absurd once one remembers that much of the income for virtual game purchases doesn't even go to the creators in some cases.

[@carissstewart3211]

@siruristtheturtle1289 the principle behind stealing is unlawfully taking another person's property. Who created that property or its availability for purchase is irrelevant. The owner of any piece of property- whether physical or intellectual- has the right to paid for it or even to refuse sale. Illegal downloading is both theft and disobedience to lawful rulers. As tempting as it may be to try to rules lawyer on this issue, one must remember: the devil is a logician.

[@siruristtheturtle1289]

​@@carissstewart3211 I deny that from the get go it's stealing and you seem to be using a reasoning alien to the actual origin of intellectual property and the justification behind piracy laws: That it deprives a creator from rightful compensation. A copy isn't an original, which is what piracy makes. Unless you want to argue that someone owns the very idea of a product/game, which is a whole can of worms I am not sure you want to go down into.

[@IcyNinjaJ]

I know how to speak and read Hebrew, and watching this video and seeing this guy 'trying' to understand the Hebrew is painful. He is so ignorant. And good job, IP and Joel, on your debunking. Joel understanding of the Hebrew is pretty good.

[@goodquestion7915]

3:08 IP doesn't see evidence of that. Just look at his body language when he says that. There are other sources older than the Biblical corpus. And asking a Jewish scholar would be even better, they invented Yahweh.

[@DLAbaoaqu]

Why do they do this? What do they get out of it?

[@MossW268]

The numbers from Adam to Moses adding up to 12,600 only exists in the Masoretic Text and Vulgate, it isn't in the Septuagint or the Samaritan Pentateuch, meaning it's probably a later Rabbinic redaction

[@xplicitgoofy1015]

Samaritan Pentateuch shouldn’t be a basis they 100% change that thing from the original It’s odd how the Samaritan Pentateuch heavily prioritizes Mount Gerizim as God’s chosen place of worship and the Masoretic text is open ended about it and later throughout the books it was chosen to be Mount Moriah. Even if I recall correctly they removed 1 commandment from the 10 commandments and replaced it with a command that is along the lines up “keep the holiness of Mount Gerizim” Anyways the ages aren’t to be literal anyways and IP made a fantastic video on this

[@azrael516]

The recent comments are sad, full of ad hominem childish accusations. sadness

[@herbofly6475]

The usual

[@meglukes]

Anyone else think the statue in the thumbnail looks like the tiny shriveled Voldemort from the end of the Harry Potter series?

[@adedaporh]

1:23:19 Now Joel is getting on my nerves lol. This is *NOT* a poetic parallelism. The only parallel is in vers e 9.

[@JoelKorytko]

Verses 8 and 9 place the divine names in the same syntactic position, both with two parallel lines about inheritance. The stiches run parallel to each other. That is still parallelism

[@goodquestion7915]

IP says that "other gods were added". Remember who you are getting that little gem from.

[@Omegatonyisgod]

Finish your thought for people who don't know for phks sake

[@goodquestion7915]

@Omegatonyisgod IP is a white-washer for Jesus.

[@Omegatonyisgod]

@@goodquestion7915 Is there another KZbinr that debunks his claims pretty well? On this subject it's kind of easy to point to random stuff and make loose anthropological claims. But have you seen IP yet rekkt on other subjects that are more solidly backed by facts and such ?

[@goodquestion7915]

@Omegatonyisgod Random? IP was reaching, that's why it was difficult for him to avoid f.....g up. I know many youtubers with the same f.....g up superpowers. Typically zeists.

[@goodquestion7915]

@Omegatonyisgod Random? IP was reaching, that's why it was difficult for him to avoid f.....g up. I know many youtubers with the same f factor superpowers. Typically zeists.

[@PanAugusto83]

Genesis 17:1

[@SamGarcia]

I think this is misunderstanding the position of pagan origins, those who believe in pagan origins believe the monotheistic prophets hijacked the whole thing, not that they didn't exist.

[@SamGarcia]

Also, how is this not Oneness Pentecostalism to claim that the name refers to all the three? The Angel of the LORD also possessed the name.

[@TerrySampson-j6n]

52:47 _"Even when Mark Smith talks about Yahweh being a storm deity he says I'm guessing."_ *"Yhwh was originally a stormy divine warrior like Baal.* The evident storm language in the earliest available biblical witnesses as well as the representation of Yhwh's march in these sources corresponds to Baal's character as a divine warrior manifest in the rainstorm that marches against terrestrial enemies. Yhwh's march is from the south, while Baal's is manifest from Mount Sapan in the Ugaritic texts. Given that Edom is given as one of the names of the region from which Yhwh comes in the old poetic sources, it may be worth noting that the name of Baal is thought to be attested as Edomite. Moreover, the name of Yhwh has been derived from *hwh, to blow (Syriac haww, wind). ... Generally, the evidence for Yhwh as a storm god is quite strong in biblical sources. Moreover, it is sometimes thought that Yhwh and Baal are regarded as incompatible later in the biblical tradition precisely because they had similar profiles. Yet, at this point it is important to note the vast majority of biblical witnesses date to the monarchic period or later, when features associated with El, Baal and other deities were manifest in representations of Yhwh (in what I have called the convergence of divinity in this divine figure). Indeed, some texts such as Psalm 29 show particular influence of t of Baal manifest in manifeststorm that moves eastward across the Mediterranean and strikes the coast of Lebanon. Accordingly, much of the imagery for Yhwh also associated with Baal may have been appropriated secondarily. Yet early in the tradition (in the texts noted in the preceding section), Yhwh does appear to be a stormy warrior god. Despite the issues noted here, the threads of evidence presently available to scholars arguably offer the greatest support for this sort of profile for Yhwh." - Mark S. Smith, YHWH's Original Character: Questions about an Unknown God, The Origins of Yahwism, pp. 37-38. No, he seems quite confident.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Yeah, I probably misremembered the quote. I’ll look to where I think I read that.

[@CJFCarlsson]

Nice hat though!

[@ricardopenamcknight6407]

Thom Holland? Spiderman is a historian?

[@SOX-9]

😂😂 Google it

[@daniallemmon5453]

Mormons: 😡

[@TheProphetofLogic]

From the great book called The Revelation of Common Sense chapter 1 verse 1: "The creator of the universe is universal and because no religion is universal the creator of the universe is not religious." Chapter 2 verse 1 through 3 says: "Flies are attracted to feces and bees are attracted to honey if you have an attraction to the god of Abraham your brain is working funny. Be wise and seek the nectar of the flowers my friend and stay away from something that came out of somebody's rear end. Do unto to others as you like done unto to you, Abraham was a slave owner and that makes him poo."

[@connerdozier6689]

So ad hominem attacks is all you got. Yeah great loving example of your worldview.

[@bobSeigar]

El = Child Elohim = Children YHWH[Y] = A Man on a Mountain Ba'al = Lord/Owner Be'el = Lady/Owner -_______- Imagine, if in ten thousand years, someone finds a Psychology Textbook based on Puberty, and starts a whole cult around it.

[@Coltsfan421]

The answer to the image is that yhwh the answer is no first off the image marker would not have made one or seen him as the bible makes clear nor would have required or requested an image be made since he already made one in us and fully in Christ. So clearly the answer is no it's not..

[@daduzadude1547]

Just had a thought: It’s been pretty well proven that allah worship stems from Baal worship. So I’m wondering if their idea that Isa didn’t die but only appeared to die might have come from the Baal cycle? 🤔

[@Toronado2]

Dude, Isa/Jesus didn't die is from your New Testament. LOL...

[@connerdozier6689]

@@Toronado2 that is not true. In the New Testament he DIED. It’s your Quran that makes this blatant historical error. lol

[@Toronado2]

@@connerdozier6689 The Quran actually confirms the Bible, when it says that "It was Made to appear that He died". Jesus says TWO things that His Death will resemble. 1) He will be Like Jonah. And we know that Jonah didn't Actually die. 2) He said that He will be like a seed that was buried and and was regenerated to give much fruiot. And we know that seeds actually don't die.

[@connerdozier6689]

@ kzbin.infoOPY7i0tdRDQ?si=ovNMrmQz_hpNSYJv Wrong. Jonah actually told us he died. And the Roman guards literally speard his side to confirm he, wait for it DIED. So your Quran is still in error by saying it appeared he died when the Bible says he in fact literally DIED.

[@connerdozier6689]

@ and literally a simple google search debunks your claims that seeds don’t die. Spoiler alert they do.

[@caseyg1516]

Why would exodus claiming God did not share his name YHWH with the patriarchs be a contradiction? He never did use that name in Genesis.

[@EmilyTodicescu]

Every time you see LORD in small caps, it's translating the Hebrew YHVH. The first mention is in Genesis 2:4 as "Yahweh Elohim".

[@caseyg1516]

@ yes, but the Christian position is that Genesis was written post exodus from Egypt. The YHWH name could easily have been retroactively included. God never introduced himself by that name to the patriarchs.

[@EmilyTodicescu]

@@caseyg1516 Genesis 15:7, Genesis 28:13 .. It's not a problem though, as there are ways of resolving this supposed contradiction. I recommend the following article (free to read online): Berry, Daniel M., and Sandra Van Eden. "Did the Patriarchs Know God's Name?" _The Jewish Bible Quarterly_ 47, no. 1 (2019): 45-49.

[@caseyg1516]

@ that’s a good point. Yea, I did not see it right away because of that translation change. Thanks for the article

[@EmilyTodicescu]

@ No problemo 😊

[@NaturalStateWingChun]

12,600 is very close to the younger dryas impact dating talked about by people like Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock.

[@JordanReynolds-x2d]

You quote mined Otto Eissfeldt and Mark Smith in regards to Deuteronomy 32:8-9. Eissfeldt believed Elyon and Yahweh were two separate deities in the passage and Smith believes the background of the text is clearly polytheistic even if the author didn't. Smith also argues in the book The Origins of Yahwism that Yahweh was a storm deity. You said he's just "guessing" but he seems quote confident in the chapter that he authored.

[@varunsharma3532]

Brother amen!!!!! Yahveh🤫 rules

[@unisophia]

El Elyon = G-d Supreme, or Supreme G-d. it’s not a name, it’s a title. like “King of Kings”.

[@JordanReynolds-x2d]

Why do you always pick the low hanging fruit? How about you refute the Esoterica video on this? Oh that's right. You can't.

[@herbofly6475]

What do you mean by low hanging fruit? And ip already said he was busy with other videos when asked about esoterica

[@henryschmit3340]

It's just a tired old idol. It's not Yahweh/Jesus.

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

As usual, you are not familiar with the scholarship and how Yahweh evolved over time. But you never do learn, do you Henry? --------------------------------------------------------- Nevertheless, the historical reconstruction that El was the chief god of the Israelites is not indebted only to the testimony of the (rather late) biblical witness of P. *Numerous biblical texts attest to the fact that the titles, functions, and the imagery associated with the Canaanite god El, as revealed by the Ugaritic texts and the Canaanite myth of Elkunirša, were assimilated into the profile of the deity YHWH.* According to the Ugaritic texts, El was known for his *wisdom* (e.g., KTU2 1.4.V.65[6]) and *great age* (’ab šnm, *“Father of Years,”* and drd, *“Ageless One,”* in KTU2 1.4.IV.24 and 1.10.III.6, respectively),[7] his *compassionate nature* (lţpn il dp’id, *“Kind El, the Compassionate One,”* e.g., KTU2 1.16.IV.9), his role as *father of the gods and humanity* (’ab ’adm, *“father of humanity,”* KTU2 1.14..III.47, and bny bnwt, *“creator of creatures,”* KTU2 1.17.I.24) and *creator of the cosmos.* [8] El was the *divine King* (e.g., KTU2 1.2.III.5-6) and the *head of the pantheon or divine council* (referred to variously as the dr ’il, *“circle of El/Family of El,”* KTU2 1.15.III.19; mpħrt bn ’il, *“the assembly of the sons of El,”* KTU2 1.65.3; bn ’il, *“the sons of El,”* KTU2 1.40.33, 41; pħr kbbm, *“assembly of the stars,”* KTU2 1.10.I.3-4; ‘dt ’ilm, *“assembly of the gods,”* KTU2 1.15.II.7; cf. KTU2 1.2.I; 1.3V; 1.4 IV-V) which met at the sacred mountain. *His consort was the goddess Athirat who bore him seventy sons* (šb‘m bn ’atrt, *“the seventy sons of Athirat,”* KTU2 1.4.VI.46). El was also known for his *divine patronage and blessing of progeny to humans* (as in the Epic of Kirta; see, for example, KTU2 1.14.III.46-51), for his *appearances to humans in dreams* (e.g., KTU2 1.14.I.35-37), as *being a healer* (KTU2 1.16.V-VI), and for his *dwelling at the sacred mountain* (e.g., KTU2 1.2.III.5-6) at the *sources of the mythical rivers* (KTU2 1.2.III.4; 1.3.V.6; 1.4.IV.20-22; 1.17.V.47-48) in a *tent* (KTU2 1.2.III.5; 1.3.V.8; 1.4.IV.24; 1.17.V.49; c.f. the Canaanite myth Elkunirša which *describes El’s abode as a tent[9]).[10]* *To underscore the fact that terminology and imagery originally used for the god El was adopted by the Israelites in their descriptions of YHWH,* the following brief summary might be placed in comparison to the discussion of El above: YHWH is an *aged, patriarchal deity* (Ps. 102:28; Job 36:26; Is. 40:28; Dan. 7.9-14, 22), *a father* (Deut. 32:6; Is. 63:16; 64:7; Jer. 3:4, 19; 31:9, etc.), *merciful and gracious* (Ex. 34:6; Jon. 4:2; Joel 2:13; Ps. 8615; 103:8; 145:8, etc.), *a divine patron who bestows the blessing of progeny upon Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,* often manifesting himself in *dreams or visions, a healer* (Gen. 20:17; Num. 12:13; 2 Kgs. 20:5, 8; Ps. 107:20, etc.), who *dwells in a tent* (Ps. 15:1; 27:6; 91:10; 132:3) *amidst the heavenly waters* (Ps. 47:5; 87; Is. 33: 20-22; Ez. 47:1-12, etc.), the *creator of the cosmos,* who is enthroned as *heavenly King* in the *divine council* (1 Kgs. 22:19; Is. 6:1-8; cf. Ps. 29:1-2; 82; 89: 5-8, etc.) on the *sacred mount of assembly* (e.g., Is. 14:13). Additionally, in much Israelite religious practice throughout the monarchic period, *YHWH had a divine consort, the goddess Asherah, the Hebrew equivalent of Ugaritic Athirat.[11]* (Originally the wife of El) *"When Jehovah Was Not the God of the Old Testament. Part II - theyellowdart"* Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 34:30 minutes onwards. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40. Watch *"Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica (Dr Justin Sledge is Jewish) Watch *"How did Yahweh Become God? The Origins of Monotheism"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Jews and Arabs Descended from Canaanites - Biblical Archaeology Society."* ("The study in Cell not only establishes that the ancient Israelites were ***descended from the Canaanites,*** but also establishes that the Canaanite people across the separate city-states of the southern Levant, and over a period of 1,500 years, were a genetically cohesive people.") *"The Canaanites weren't annihilated, they just 'moved' to Lebanon - The Times of Israel."* *"Ancient Canaanite religion explained* - everything.explained.today" *"Archeology of the Hebrew Bible - NOVA - PBS"* ("Many scholars now think that *most of the early Israelites were originally Canaanites, displaced Canaanites,* displaced from the lowlands, from the river valleys, displaced geographically and then displaced ideologically.") *"Origins of Judaism explained* - everything.explained.today" ("According to the current academic historical view, the origins of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, ***specifically evolving out of Ancient Canaanite polytheism,*** then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of the Hebrew Bible. (The Torah)". *Refer to the bibliography at the bottom of the page)* *"Canaanite languages - Britannica"* ("Group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including ***Hebrew,*** Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic.") *"El - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "El Outside the Bible" and the fact that *most of the early Israelites were originally indigenous or displaced Canaanites)* *"El (deity) explained* - everything.explained.today" (Refer to section "Ugarit and the Levant" and the fact that *most of the ancient Israelites were originally indigenous or displaced Canaanites* and see how Yahweh, later conflated with El (Yahweh-El(ohim)) is fictional) *"The Gods and Goddesses of Canaan - Essay - The Metropolitan Museum of Art - Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History"* *"Canaanite Phoenician Origin of the God of the Israelites."* *"The Phoenician (Canaanite) God Resheph in the Bible - Is That in the Bible?"* *"How the Jews Invented God and Made Him Great- Archaeology - Haaretz."* *"When the Jews believed in other gods - Archaeology - Haaretz"* *"The Invention of God - Maclean's"* *"How Did the Bible’s Editors Conceal Evidence of Israelite Polytheism - Evolution of God by Robert Wright."* *"A Theologically Revised Text: Deuteronomy 32:8-9 - Ancient Hebrew Poetry."* *"Biblical Contradiction #3: Which God is the Creator of the Heavens and Earth: Yahweh or El?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Biblical Contradiction #27. Are Yahweh and El the Same God or Not?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Biblical Contradiction **#294**, **#295**, **#296**. Which god liberated Israel from Egypt: Yahweh or El?"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Quartz Hill School of Theology - B425 Ugarit and the Bible."* *"The Origins of Yahweh and the Revived Kenite Hypothesis - Is That in the Bible?"* *"Yahweh, god of metallurgy - Fewer Lacunae."* *"Polytheistic Roots of Israelite Religion - Fewer Lacunae."* *"Yahweh was just an ancient Canaanite god. We have been deceived! - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* *"Religious Studies: El, Yahweh and the Development of Monotheism in Ancient Israel."* *"Yhwh, God of Edom - Daniel O. McClellan."*

[@travisgray8376]

Lots of people just wanna prove god doesn't exist so there somehow more intelligent they are there own god. Some people just don't want or care for salvation. I guess some think having no god as if that makes Life better but it only make their lives pointless no consequences to there actions.

[@FIRE0KING]

Hmmmm, i would disagree about the golden bull that aaron made. I think the view that the bull was supposed to be an image of Yahweh is more likely. (Still wrong Obviously) Since Yahweh was described as powerful, like a bull somewhere in scripture. Obviously, im not a scholar, so definitely look into this more yourself.

[@goodquestion7915]

"No we don't" confidently says the biased apologist when REAL HISTORY is paraded in front of his eyes.

[@GetsugaTensho-p2c]

*SPECULATIVE HISTORY

[@goodquestion7915]

@GetsugaTensho-p2c Bible, right?

[@GetsugaTensho-p2c]

@@goodquestion7915 YOU ARE PARADING SPECULATIVE HISTORY AS REAL HISTORY. IP is anything but biased because at least he values evidence, and doesn't go wild with scholarly assumptions.

[@goodquestion7915]

@GetsugaTensho-p2c Thete are real experts in history, antropology, and religions (plural), so they are VERY FAR FROM SPECULATIVE. The Bible is completely biased, and IP defends it against all facts, so he is ABSOLUTELY biased. IP values evidence that supports his bias and DISPARAGES real evidence against his bias, so he values biased evidence. You are right that IP doesn't go wild with assumptions, but he doesn't point them out when they favor his narrative.

[@goodquestion7915]

@GetsugaTensho-p2c Thete are real experts in history, antropology, and religions (plural), so they are VERY FAR FROM SPECULATIVE.

[@goodquestion7915]

Bal was Yahweh's brother.

[@GetsugaTensho-p2c]

Direct evidence without speculation

[@goodquestion7915]

@GetsugaTensho-p2c History of Religions.

[@GetsugaTensho-p2c]

@@goodquestion7915 that's not evidence, give me a source

[@goodquestion7915]

@GetsugaTensho-p2c I'm betting you are smart and have faith in you.

[@GetsugaTensho-p2c]

@goodquestion7915 i don't have any for you

[@joepemberton9031]

1:37:08 The PROOF that Mata Nui is El

[@JordanReynolds-x2d]

It's not only the word inherticance in Deut. 32:8-9 that shows Yahweh inherited Israel from his father but the fact that the boundaries of the peoples are set "according to the number of the sons of El." Therefore, the reason Yahweh received a portion is because he's included in the previous group "sons of El." Moreover, the passage was edited in the Septuagint and Masoretic text to remove the polytheism.

[@mickeylax9975]

Give us evidence of that editing.

[@JordanReynolds-x2d]

@mickeylax9975 Here is a direct example of the edited polytheism embedded in the text along with scholarly commentary. Deuteronomy 32:8-9 Dead Sea Scrolls 4QDeut j: "When Elyon gave the nations as an inheritance (b e hanchel goyim), when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the *sons of God* (b e nê 'elo[hîm]). For Yahweh's portion (cheleq Yhwh) was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance (chebel nach a lathô)". LXX (Greek translation): "When the Most High divided the nations (diemerizen ethnè), when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the boundaries of the nations according to the number of the *angels of God* (aggelòn theou). And his people Jacob became the portion of the Lord (meris kuriou), Israel was the line of his inheritance (skhoinisma klèronomias autou)". Masoretic Text: "When Elyon gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the *sons of Israel* (b e nê Yisra'el). For Yahweh's portion was his people, Jacob was the lot of his inheritance". "Psalm 82, like Deuteronomy 32:8-9, preserves the outlines of the older theology it is rejecting. From the perspective of this older theology, Yahweh did not belong to the top tier of the pantheon. Instead, in early Israel the god of Israel apparently belonged to the second tier of the pantheon; he was not the presider god, but one of his sons." - Mark S. Smith, The Origins of Biblical Monotheism pg. 49 "It is in connection with the Canaanite god El and his pantheon of gods, known as the ‘sons of El’, that a direct relationship with the Old Testament is to be found. That this is certain can be established from the fact that both were seventy in number. At Ugarit we read in the Baal myth of ‘the seventy sons of Asherah (Athirat)’ (sb’m. bn. ‘atrt, KTU 1.4. VI.46). Since Asherah was El’s consort, this therefore implies that El’s sons were seventy in number. Now Deut. 32.8, which is clearly dependent on this concept, declares, ‘When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God’. The reading ‘sons of God’ (bene ‘elohim) has the support of the Qumran fragment, 4QDeut, the LXX, Symmachus, Old Latin and the Syro-Hexaplaric manuscript, Camb. Or. 929. This is clearly the original reading, to be preferred to the MT’s ‘sons of Israel’ (bene yisra’el), which must have arisen as a deliberate alteration on the part of a scribe who did not approve of the polytheistic overtones of the phrase ‘sons of God’. Interestingly, it is known that the Jews believed there to be seventy nations on earth, so that the sons of God were accordingly also seventy in number. This emerges from the table of the nations in Genesis 10, where there are seventy nations, and from the later Jewish apocalyptic concept according to which there were seventy guardian angels of the nations (Targum Pseudo-Jonathon on Deut 32.8; 1 En. 89.59-77, 90.22-27). … Finally, it is interesting to note that the Old Testament never refers to the heavenly court as ‘the sons of Yahweh’. As we have seen above, apart from one instance of bene ‘elyon, we always find the ‘sons of God’, with words for God containing the letter s ‘l (bene ha ‘elohim, bene ‘elohim, bene ‘elim). This finds a ready explanation in their origin in the sons of the Canaanite god El. Eventually, of course, the name El simply became a general word for ‘God’ in the Old Testament, and so it is found many times." - John Day, Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan, pg. 23-25 "It is now universally accepted that the MT reflects an attempt to avoid the polytheistic overtones of the original." - John Day, From Creation to Babel pg. 79 There you have it. Yahweh was originally subordinate to and the son of another god, indistinguishable from any other polytheistic god in history.

[@ArieSchwartz]

Where is the version of this passage that mentions the name El?

[@JordanReynolds-x2d]

@@ArieSchwartz Elyon is most likely an epithet for Canaanite El and sons of God is "bene elohim" which finds a ready explanation in the Canaanite sons of El and Athirat tradition. We never see a reference to "sons of Yahweh" and it does not make sense to use two different names for God if the passage was referring to the same deity. Thus, Elyon and Yahweh are to be distinguished in the passage, the latter being one of Elyon's sons.

[@ArieSchwartz]

@JordanReynolds-x2d Elyon is a title (Most High) used for El as well as other Middle Eastern deities outside the Bible and for Yahweh in the Bible. It's certainly possible that Elyon in this context is a reference to another deity who goes unmentioned in the rest of the passage, but it seems simpler to assume it's a reference to Yahweh, who is named in the very next verse.

[@adedaporh]

1:23:29 I'm sorry but this interpretation is ridiculous. So suppose we wanted to state how Chemosh is the god of Moab, a statement like _But Chemosh's portion is his people, Moab his allotted heritage_ Should Chemosh now be equated with Elyon?? How do the other _bene elohim_ get their inheritance?

[@fernandoperez8587]

El Elyon here could be refering to the Father and Him giving Israel to Yahweh the Son. The Son does after all inherit the nations from the Father later (Psalm 2, 45). There are some that believe Elohim, El or here El Elyon is the Father and Yahweh is the Son throughout the Old Testament and that's not what I believe or am saying here. Only that God or Yahweh in part is the Father and the in other the Son.

[@BrghtScorpio]

I like Joel, he's a good scholar. But please invite someone relevant to the discussion.

[@DipokKoiri-jh1ic]

Lord Kabir is supreme god and creator of all all the scriptures glorifies Him only the speaker of holy scriptures glorifies Him in some places in all holy scriptures but we can find His complete information in kabir sagar and Amar Granth which are supreme god given spiritual knowledge

[@thejourney4999]

1:14:24

[@ShieldMarion3]

Wow! It’s a prøphėsy about shopping! The smaller “god” 👉🏻17:10 is riding a shopping cart! 🛒 Wait, I know: The two bigger “gods” just bought the third one at the mall!

[@ShieldMarion3]

The comment (above) was censored when I posted it from my main channel. Go figure! 🤨😼

[@Outlaw-of2lt]

Gods name is not yaweh via name is I am who I am and my name will never change ex 3 14 ehyeh Asher ehyeh in Hebrew

[@goodquestion7915]

8:33-8:56 IP debunks himself

[@azrael516]

He doesn't unmask himself, he's distorting things, right?

[@goodquestion7915]

@azrael516 Initially, he confidently affirmed that Yahweh was the only god, and later other gods were added, and then he trips on his half brain and says what he said at 8:33

[@goodquestion7915]

@azrael516 isn't anyone else available to give you "likes" that you have to like your own comments? Look I have a "like" milliseconds after posting my comment.

[@azrael516]

@@goodquestion7915 Mockery and sarcasm are not welcome. No matter how many likes you have, you look like a child wanting attention.

[@azrael516]

@goodquestion7915 You like to distort things, don't you? He said that there were other gods because the fathers of Israel worshiped other gods wrongly. He is not unmasking himself. He is saying something obvious that is in the Bible.

[@senorbb2150]

It is amusing how much of the OT you take literally with no outside evidence. It reminds me of Paulogia playing the tune of "Because the Bible tells me so"

[@mysotiras21]

There is plenty of outside evidence. Experts from dozens of disciplines have picked the Bible to pieces, comparing it to what we know of the history, archeology, and cultures of the ancient Middle East.

[@irritated888]

If you are going to argue what the ancient israelites believed, don't you think looking at the written documents of what they believed is a good place to start? Scholars don't just take them at face value, they are look at older hebrew words, palce names, etc and try and parse what's older and what newer. What you are asking is like trying to understand Tolkiens view of industrialization is, without being able to look at anything he wrote, and only taking quotes from other people.

[@senorbb2150]

@@irritated888 I don't disagree with what you are saying. But when were those earliest Hebrew documents written? They reflect the Jewish belief at the time they were written, but their beliefs had evolved prior to that. He made statements about how people like Abraham and Jacob actually existed when the only evidence of that is "Because the Bible tells me so."

[@kerwinbrown4180]

I am not even sure the pagans are pagans when they have one Creator or a bunch of created gods. The Egyptian idea God created himself is aa bit far fetched. Remember Adam and Eve worshipped God and that religion changed as a giant game of telephone was enacted throughout the generations. God has sent prophets and his Son to return his people to the truth multiple times.

[@sigurdholbarki8268]

I have to say I tend to agree. Before I reverted to Christianity from Atheism I'd come to the conclusion that pantheism amongst the Greeks and Romans was the result of city states forming into "kingdoms" with the hierarchy of the various gods matching the temporal hierarchy of the people who worshipped them. The later pantheonisation of Norse gods being the result of either contemporary power dynamics as Kingdoms developed during the Viking Age, or as a later gloss by Snorri Sturluson to bring them into line with the classical literature he was no doubt very familiar with.

[@kennethharryson1592]

Yahweh and Ishtar were worship togheter in the early past I had saw it some were on the internet but later king hesikaya stop it is it true and are Yahweh and jehova the same

[@sigurdholbarki8268]

Yeah, it's not contested that Israel falsely worshipped other created gods - it's a running struggle and theme throughout the old testament. Even in the first century AD some Jews were making sacrifices to the Imperial cult of Rome, and you could argue that some liberal Christians are doing the same today. It's nothing new and it should be unsurprisingly to Christians and Jews alike. Jehova comes from an English transliteration of the Greek/Latin form of Yahweh from the Septuagint/Vulgate. However until the late medieval period J was pronounced as I, and V often as U or W (Iulius Kaeser said weni, wini, wiki). So before c. 1500 Joshua would be pronounced roughly as Ioshua/Yoshua, Jesus as Iesus/Yesus, Jehovah as Yehowah. But even then this is around the time of the great vowel shift so the vowels would sound different. Similarly, Jacob would be pronounced Yacob and John as Yohn or Yohan as they still are in other Germanic languages. Hope that helps

[@preston7846]

Yahwism was an ancient religion in the old testament times. So the Jewish god of Israel was a part of a pantheon at one point. But Yahwism is a different religion That came after ancient Israelite religion (old testament Judaism). So the monotheistic view was first.

[@ALEX-KYLE-g9]

Source, please.

[@preston7846]

@ALEX-KYLE-g9 archaeology books and religious studies. This isn't an absurd claim. There was a religion in ancient times that was a polytheistic version of ancient Israelite religion. It mixed paganism with Judaism. This is just a common fact for nerds of ancient history and religious studies.

[@ALEX-KYLE-g9]

@@preston7846 Your answer is ridiculous. It's akin to replying "some source of information" to my question. Get real or get lost.

[@preston7846]

@ALEX-KYLE-g9 why are you so hostile? Yahwism is a polytheistic version of ancient Israelite religion. That's all I said!

[@PanAugusto83]

@@ALEX-KYLE-g9 I think he means that this form of religion existed, which is true, but that's not the religion we see in the Bible. Well we see it but described as a heresy.

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

According to the general consensus of scholarship *(even critical Christian scholars),* YHWH was originally incorporated into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of the Canaanite high god El before inheriting the top spot in the pantheon and El's wife Athirat (Asherah) before religious reforms "divorced" them. El's pantheon in Ugarit (modern day Ras Shamra in Syria) is called the *Elohim,* literally the plural of El. Interestingly, the Biblical god is also referred to numerous times as Elohim. If you want to see if El is fictional, just read his mythology in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts. "The mysterious Ugaritic text Shachar and Shalim tells how (perhaps near the beginning of all things) *El* came to shores of the sea and saw two women who bobbed up and down. *El* was sexually aroused and took the two with him, killed a bird by throwing a staff at it, and roasted it over a fire. He asked the women to tell him when the bird was fully cooked, and to then address him either as husband or as father, for he would thenceforward behave to them as they called him. They saluted him as husband. He then lay with them, and they gave birth to Shachar ("Dawn") and Shalim ("Dusk"). Again *El* lay with his wives and the wives gave birth to "the gracious gods", "cleavers of the sea", "children of the sea". The names of these wives are not explicitly provided, but some confusing rubrics at the beginning of the account mention the goddess *Athirat (Asherah),* who is otherwise *El's* chief wife, and the goddess Raḥmayyu ("the one of the womb"), otherwise unknown." *"First, a god named El predates the arrival of the Israelites into Syria-Palestine.* Biblical usage shows El was not just a generic noun, but often a proper name for Israel’s God (e.g., Gen 33:20: “El, the God of Israel”)." "I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the *sons of El.* It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the *sons of El,* plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, *solely* according to the number of the *sons of El.* *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting.* A Sumerian hymn speaks to the goddess: “Nanshe, your divine powers are not matched by any other divine powers.” *Does this mean that Nanshe was the high goddess, that there were no gods above her? No, it does not.* Nanshe was the daughter of Enki, the high god. *In Sumerian mythology, as with Ugaritic, Israelite, Babylonian, and others, in the ancient past, the high god (Enki, in this case) divided up the world and assigned his children certain domains.* Nanshe was given a limited domain (the modern Persian Gulf) and was tasked with maintaining social justice there. *This is exactly what we see in Deuteronomy 32 with Yahweh. Yahweh is given a limited domain (Israel) and is given authority over his people, to punish them, as well as to protect and defend them against foreign enemies.* That Yahweh, like Nanshe, is said to have incomparable divine power *does not* mean that he is not subordinate to the high god who gave him his domain. *It is also of note that Nanshe, like Baal, Yahweh, and so many other deities, evolved over time. Her domain increased, and she was promoted in the pantheon (although she never became the high goddess)."* *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* (Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian) *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"* (A second response to Michael Heiser) *"Excerpt from “Yahweh and the Gods and Goddesses of Canaan” by John Day - Lehi's Library."* *"The Table of Nations: The Geography of the World in Genesis 10"* - TheTorah.com (Excluding the short narrative on Nimrod (vv. 8-12), *which appears to be a later addition,* Genesis 10 contains *70* names of nations or cities, a number that was symbolic of totality. Similarly, the descendants of Jacob were *70* in number (Gen 46:37; Exod 1:5), *as were the sons of the supreme Canaanite god El, with whom YHWH became equated.)* *"Polytheism and Ancient Israel’s Canaanite Heritage. Part V | theyellowdart"* (Of course, much of this [i.e., that Israel worshiped El and Asherah alongside YHWH] is really to be expected given that recent syntheses of the *archaeological, cultural, and literary data* pertaining to the emergence of the nation of Israel in the Levant *show that most of the people who would eventually compose this group were originally Canaanite. As the Hebrew Bible notes, the Hebrew language itself is a Canaanite language, literally the “lip of Canaan” (שְׂפַת כְּנַעַן; Is. **19:18**), and so it cannot often be distinguished by modern scholars from other Canaanite inscriptions on purely linguistic grounds.)* *"Ugarit - New World Encyclopedia"* (Ugaritic religion centered on the chief god, Ilu or El, whose titles included "Father of mankind" and "Creator of the creation." The Court of El was referred to as the (plural) 'lhm or ***Elohim,*** a word ***later used by the biblical writers to describe the Hebrew deity*** and translated into English as "God," in the singular. El, which was ***also the name of the God of Abraham,*** was described as an aged deity with white hair, seated on a throne.) *"Mark Smith: Yahweh as El’s Son & Yahweh’s Ascendency - Lehi's Library"* (Mark Smith is a Catholic) *"God, Gods, and Sons (and Daughters) of God in the Hebrew Bible. Part III | theyellowdart"* *"02 | December | 2009 | Daniel O. McClellan - Psalm 82"* (Daniel McClellan is a Mormon) *"Elohim | Daniel O. McClellan"* (Refer to the article "Angels and Demons (and Michael Heiser)") *"God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible - Almost."* (Pay attention to whose wife Asherah (Athirat) is in the Ugaritic/Canaanite texts and how she became the wife of YHWH/Yahweh) *"Yahweh's Divorce from the Goddess Asherah in the Garden of Eden - Mythology Matters."* *"Asherah, God's Wife in Ancient Israel. Part IV - theyellowdart"* *"The Gates of Ishtar - El, was the original god of the bible."* *"The Gates of Ishtar - Anath in the Elephantine Papyri"* (In addition to Asherah (Athirat) being the consort of Yahweh, it appears some Israelites also viewed the Canaanite goddess Anat(h) as Yahweh's consort) *"Canaanite Religion - New World Encyclopedia"* (Refer to the section "Relationship to Biblical Religion") *"The Syncretization of Yahweh and El : reddit/AcademicBiblical"* (For a good summary of all of the above articles) Watch Professor Christine Hayes who lectures on the Hebrew Bible at Yale University. Watch lecture 2 from 40:40 to 41:50 minutes, lecture 7 from 30:00 minutes onwards, lecture 8 from 12:00 to 17:30 minutes and lecture 12 from 34:30 minutes onwards. Watch *"Pagan Origins of Judaism"* by Sigalius Myricantur and read the description in the video to see the scholarship the video is based on. Watch *"How Monotheism Evolved"* by Sigalius Myricantur and watch up to at least 21:40. Watch *"Atheism - A History of God (The Polytheistic Origins of Christianity and Judaism)"* (By a former theist) Watch *"Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica (Dr Justin Sledge is Jewish) Watch *"How did Yahweh Become God? The Origins of Monotheism"* by Dr Justin Sledge at Esoterica

[@EmilyAlton-q8m]

While I do believe you've done excellent research, you're also appealing to ad populum; basically arguing that if a lot of scholars say something, then it's true. That's a logical fallacy. I also wouldn't trust Dan McCellan as one of your sources, who is a Mormon (not a Christian, argue with the wall) and is young in his research.

[@azrael516]

This is not a consensus among historians, it is a plausible academic theory, but it lacks direct evidence as to whether Yahweh was part of the Canaanite pantheon.

[@Toronado2]

As a Muslim, I find that Christians look at Scripture in an Non Semitic way. More like the Romans/Greeks or Egyptians. That eschews their Theology and Knowledge. In other words they become of those ; Mat 13:15 For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.

[@azrael516]

@epicofgilgamesh9964 There is no academic consensus that Yahweh was the "son of El." Scholars like Mark S. Smith (The Early History of God) and Michael Heiser (The Unseen Realm) argue that Yahweh and El were merged in Israelite theology, making Yahweh the unique and supreme God. Texts like Deuteronomy 32:8-9 have variations but do not prove Yahweh was subordinate to El; they simply reflect an older religious context. The Bible consistently portrays Yahweh as unique and supreme (Deut. 6:4; Isa. 45:5).

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

​@azrael516 As explained to you already, Thom Stark explains the general consensus of scholarship in opposition to Michael Heiser that Heiser admitted as explained in the articles. I suggest you take the time to read them as it appears you haven't. *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* (Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian) *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"* (A second response to Michael Heiser)

[@CJFCarlsson]

The idea of the ONE god is everywhere, even with people, like roman writers, who believed or did not believe in their funny pantheon.

[@mysotiras21]

Not really. There was usually an idea of one SUPREME god, ruling over lesser gods. This is not the same thing at all. Yes, by the later Classical period, educated Greeks and Romans had rejected their traditional pantheons in favor of one deity, but that was the product of Classical Greek philosophy. Not a widespread phenomenon.

[@CJFCarlsson]

@@mysotiras21 The real Creator and the clay gods. Pharao Akhenaten comes to mind as a person who was not later classical.

[@mysotiras21]

@@CJFCarlsson , Akhenaten was a fluke, and received enormous pushback from other Egyptians. Moreover, the records are somewhat sparse, so Egyptologists are not sure if this pharaoh was truly monotheistic, or monolatristic, or henotheistic. He might have been just a syncretist, blending all of the gods of Egypt into a sort of super-god.

[@CJFCarlsson]

@@mysotiras21 I do not say that all who are aware of the one God worship Him and even if they did it is not a voting matter Whatever your objections against Akhenaten more like him can be found. You just have to read with an open mind. Anyone who reads ancient myth can come up with the idea, "this was funny, but this god is too small and mean to be behind creation, there must be someone larger, more generous and brilliant behind it". That would go for ancient egyptians and greek as well as the romans who had a lot of help from christians. This line of reasoning would work for mayans and atheists as well.

[@CJFCarlsson]

@@mysotiras21 I learned a trick from a middle wise person: He replies "oh yes? Give me five examples". I admit that my conclusion comes from random readings and I would not be able to come up with more than the one sample off-hand, because I mostly listen to ancient writings as entertainment, not as a study and not taking notes, and conclusions come to me when they want, uninvited and when they like.

[@steelfalconx2000]

Wow there are a lot of completely unqualified, very untrained biblical scholars in the comments section today using their favorite tactic, the "scholar quote mining" 😅

[@Bluebaggins]

Tetergrammaton, greek word, introduced by Melqart via Tyre. The usage of its construct spread within the phoenician trade routes. via the Pontic greeks of the Black sea, Varna being its birth place. This construct fused with the religion of the Levant introducing a polity of twelve which the new egyptian empire used to govern Meggido. The religious turned this into Israel. Later this deity was introduced to Judea through Ahab.

[@Bluebaggins]

@@mysotiras21 Meggido battle 1500BC Thutmose lll is your Moses with the new kingdom of Egyot. Refer to scriptures, Moses leading his people from egyptian captivity. This was a time of the hyskos expuLsion from egypt. Ahab Jezebel, Melkart Baal, this links the phoenician traders, via Tyre. Pheonician traders used the star charts to navigate and devised a parallel of mapping out how to set up a trading post with settlement and colonization. This star chart is shown in the book of Job with reference, Job 38:31 The polity of twelve is a greek invention of how to create governance within their land before the advent of democrasy. Now to put a spanner into your mind, the creation of eve from the flesh of Adam is echoed from greek myth of Athena born from zeus's mind, and the binding of Isaac is again a reflection of Andromeda being chained. Both are to ensure that order comes from chaos, both fighting the same deity, Posieden (Neptune), Rahab used in the Hebrew Bible to indicate pride or arrogance, a mystical sea monster, as an emblematic or poetic name for Egypt and for the sea. Today this can be seen upon the celestial sphere and in the greek myths of Argo navis and the search for the golden fleece. Cephas in the NT is Cepheus upon the sphere itself. Now even with this information, you will find the dragon, which is also known as El Shaddai, or even Hathor in egyptian cosmology, and upon the dendera zodiac you will find a symbol shaped as a leg, which is personified as Jacobs struggle with god. I could explain the whole shhebang, but to somebody that thinks unicorns dont exist, Monocerus, then i would be wasting my time while those that have no ears to understand sing their own narcissistic tales that spring from Mt Helicon itself. Refer to Mt Zion, and what ever other mountain of nonsense that creates a narrative for people to place their beliefs upon. Good luck. I dont really care, in all honesty, as the story written in scriptures will play out to its finally, whether people understand or not.

[@Bluebaggins]

@@mysotiras21 PS the Menorah, which is connected to the creation of a sovereign nation, can be found in the egyptian myth of Nun,. Scripture reference Joshua son of Nun. Egyptian Book of the Heavenly Cow is judaic prophesy of the Red Heifer. Its a cult practise created by hijacking cosmology via understanding the human psyche linked by four canopic Jars and how this division creates a cross, Reference Tav or christ, your choice. YHWH

[@ColorsFlight]

They came from Abraham that moved into Cannan from UR.

[@SuperpowersUniversity]

YAHWEH = i am a consuming fire Y = i A = a H = H W = Shin to eat or consume eh = did you understand what i said (i repeat) iah = Moon God Moses said who should i say gave me this. ehyah asher ehyah he went down broke the tablets and came back. ehyah asher ehyah = eh = did you understand what i said (i repeat) yah = i am ash = something consumed by FiRE. er reversed = re ( to do again ) eh = did you understand what i said (i repeat) yah = i am i am that i am EH Ahayah Knowledge is a Super Power

[@ALEX-KYLE-g9]

Comment below if you've read the religious stories from Ugarit or Canaan. 👇🏼

[@ALEX-KYLE-g9]

☝🏼

[@curwinjulius137]

Not debunked

[@mysotiras21]

Debunked. Assertions are NOT valid arguments, peanut, unless you substantiate them with EVIDENCE.

[@Xottic-ll1yf]

Lmao cope

[@curwinjulius137]

@@mysotiras21 Have you actually read any of the literature of this subject. buttercup? Please check out any books from a reputable author as joel and michael suggests. I didnt just take their word for it, the books and texts they talk about in this video are misrepresented and misinterpreted or they are ust mistaken. Go Read.