Quickly, easily setup your single, dual joysticks, throttle in Star Citizen 3.20+ Also REL vs ABS!

[@DazStain]

Thank you so much for the joystick swap info. you have no idead how annoying it is when they switch and dont know how to get them back to normal.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I do actually. Lol it's painful to rebuild 64 buttons, and 6 axis.... my friend Ron found that tidbit and it changed my update strategy. I've shared it frequently since learning it. So glad the video helped.

[@EastRS]

Almost threw in the towel. Thanks for the video can't believe I overlooked mapping in game.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@JacobRiis-d2z hate that you had trouble, but love that I could help. Look for an update after all the 3.24.2+ dust settles.

[@robertmorris412]

Awesome video, relevant even in 3.22. Thanks for posting!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks! I'll update it again after some more keybind changes hit.

[@nephroghost1912]

I just received my pair of VKB’s today and this guide was very helpful. Thank you!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Welcome to team HOSAS :-)

[@polla2256]

Have a try of subliminals button maps, I love them on my vkb's.

[@idexbonus8927]

Thanks for this tutorial. I'm ordering some VKBs so this will come in handy! Can't wait.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Love my VKBs!

[@1796Sanctuary]

Dude.. your a legend. I have an x56 that I don't use as I couldn't figure out how to set it up properly.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Awesome! Happy to help! Thanks for commenting

[@maxgradwohl5868]

Very much appreciate that in this video you dont ramble around and go straight to the point. 15 minute video to basically be up and flying. Thanks.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks for the kind feedback. I appreciate it. Glad I could be of help. I'm recording an updated version as 3.23.x has changed keybinds alot. Personal life needs have been delaying it.

[@Bruce_Warren]

👍🏽Excellent, saved me a lot of explaining😄 Thanks!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks for the superchat! Glad I could help!

[@Denisjaguar99]

I was looking for an easy and well done explanation and you hit it for me. Thank you for sharing.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@@Denisjaguar99 I'm glad that I could help you! Thanks for viewing and commenting. It really helps promote the video.

[@ron691969]

Everything you need to know, nothing you don't! Thanks

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks Ron o7

[@Aundreen]

Finally! A setup video that shows what’s actually going on. Thank you!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Watch for an updated version when 3.23 drops. There's significant keybind changes.

[@Ultimate677]

This guy is a genius. I’m going to set my thrustmaster up now thanks you so much.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

You're way too kind. Thanks

[@Ph4n_t0m]

Thank you so much Pagan! I received my NXT pair day-before-yesterday and I'm so friggin' lost... this is invaluable!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Sorry you had trouble, but glad I was able to help! You're very kind with the superchat, thank you!

[@Ph4n_t0m]

@@PaganLinuxGeek As with most games, SC has come a long way and with their new handling of weapon groups and so much more, might it be possible for an updated guide for 3.24.2 (ish) ?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@Ph4n_t0m I've already started production. Doing this next one a bit different and investing more time into it. The first ones were quickly produced as something I could send people. Taking some time to make something with higher production value that I can just update as changes come down the line.

[@lindskoghemma7449]

I am the worst combat pilot in SC. My only kill was to tackle my enemy to spin and crash. With this guide i be in better control of my ship. No more trade runs for a while. My second stick Thrustm 1600 arriving today and borrowing Thrustm 1600 w throttle and pedals will be my way of reducing keyboard keys and have fun. I am going to use your setup as base for my flying experience.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Dual sticks def makes it more immersive! Check the new video for some tips on the mastermode keybinds.

[@tadstertrolley7770]

Just received one vkb and this is a brilliant tutorial thanks.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad I was able to help :-)

[@RonnyTiller]

Most underrated SC video on youtube!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Wow, kind words! Thanks for watching, commenting.

[@mikes.9091]

Thank yo so much for doing this...I started on your original video and when I went back to the game recently none of my joystick setup work and it really fraked me out. So glad I saved the original video which the lead me here!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Yeah they made some keybind changes that made the old break. I'm glad I could help you, twice even! Thanks for the comment it really helps the video get shown to more people.

[@Abe-Shahid]

this is by far the best and simplest way to set up for duel thank you helped me a lot as im new to joysticks

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Tried to keep it simple, quick. Glad to hear it helped you get setup!

[@kevinm3751]

Great video, I hate setting this up with a passion! My biggest issue is finding the best key to use for something and worse is remembering what I set to do what.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

There's a utility called Joystick Diagrams that I used to create images showing button mappings. It supports VKB Space Combat Edition after you rename the related files to match. Finding the right button... oof, I've gone back and forth for awhile. Combat related seems to work better on the right stick hats for me being right handed. Request landing, map toggle, etc I bind to the bases. Download the linked keybind files and review the diagrams for inspiration.

[@NathanWind99]

Timely video. I'm back in for 3.20 after being away for a few months and need to re-bind some things. Always interesting to see how other people do it. I can never get used to roll on the right twist, I always use that for yaw. Thank you for explaining the difference between abs and rel, I had no idea what they meant.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad I could help. There's a starter set of keybinds linked in description if you want to review

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Yeah set it up the way that works for you. I've heard flight Sim geeks prefer left and right for roll as it's how aircraft behave in atmosphere. Perhaps try that?

[@NathanWind99]

@@PaganLinuxGeek Yep, that's how I prefer and I've been playing flight sims for a long time. Will check out your keybinds and the Joystick Diagrams app to help me remember where everything is mapped

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@retrotubedotnet excellent if memory serves; I had to rename the left and right image template names to match my sticks name as shown in the keybinds file.

[@Cvdmee]

This is awsome! im looking into getting a dual stick set up but was a bit afraid of the key bindings. this helped me a lot!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Keep a lookout for an updated video for 3.23 as there's significant changes. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Jaleney]

Thank you so much for the video, I've been dreading redoing my VirPil HOSAS + Pedals because I couldn't figure out what was what with all the changes and this helped a ton! Appreciate you and subscribed!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I appreciate the sub, and the kind comments! Glad I could help. o7

[@broccolibasket]

Excellent thankyou. I added salvage (L A4 hat), cycle target locking (R a4 hat), mouse mode (mouse mode on a hat in vkb settings), sw1's for cruise control and speed limiter, missile/bombs (R c1 hat), master mode (L D1)l, weapon modes R D3 and flight modes L D3

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@broccolibasket I love it! Next level enabling mouse mode on the mini stick. Thank you for commenting it really helps yt promote the video.

[@Kion.Akarda]

Thanks my dude, just got myself a dual setup, this has been very helpful.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad I was able to help. You'll love dual setups!

[@Zsolaith]

Outstanding! This helped me setup my VKB's! Thank you! :)

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Purrfect! Glad I could help.

[@momallanimal2449]

You're vid was a great help for me... and for 3..22. Thx a lot!!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Perfect! It served my goals then. Glad it helped you.

[@davidlewis7154]

absolute legend so straight forward covered possible issues too ty!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Dude I just got home from the ER with a ruptured disk. Reading that comment was just the positivity boost I needed! Thank you for commenting!

[@davidlewis7154]

@@PaganLinuxGeek get well soon 🙏

[@SollomonTheWise]

Thank you for showing me how to bind my keys.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@@SollomonTheWise you're welcome

[@deepdiver71cando52]

The video is helpful for beginners...good job!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thank you for the kind words! Any suggestions for the next?

[@grave2039]

just got my dual vkb gladiators and working on setting this up. This has helped tremendously!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Excellent! I'm glad it helped you and thanks for commenting on the video. It really helps get it seen more.

[@grave2039]

no problem!@@PaganLinuxGeek

[@Psychobunie]

Used your old video very new to sticks with the wipe had to reset my sticks was just watching the old one when this popped up thank you

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Happy to help, and thanks for both watching and commenting. It really helps my tiny channel. o7

[@Xaero40]

Fantastic guide!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thank you!.

[@Xaero40]

@PaganLinuxGeek This was a life savor. I just got a set of Gladiator NXT for Star Citizen. Getting stuff set up while watching was a breeze.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Very kind!

[@robertgifford6205]

Excelent explaination and demonstration! Thanks

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Happy to help!

[@PavilonGaming]

amazing tutorial. lifesaver in setting up my new sticks!!!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Excellent! Check the newest one for some tips on button mapping!

[@floe7102]

good stuff, answered questions about the game ive had for a while : )

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thank you! Already getting ready for an updated version.

[@shootloadrepeat]

Thank you for this. I stopped playing SC 2 years ago because of my X56 giving ghost inputs and I threw it against a wall. I'm ordering VKB sticks and this guide really helps.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

You're going to love the VKBs! Glad I could help!

[@shootloadrepeat]

I did end up getting the VKB NXT combo with Omni throttle. I also got the STECS and add-on panel (MAX I think) and couldn't be happier. I'm getting used to the HOSAS but still use the throttle for acceleration and cruise control. The resolution and feel of these things is amazing. I have the clutches set just to the point where they almost don't center and feel amazing. Weakest springs in right stick, stock springs in the OT. I did similar mappings to yours, except I want roll on my X axis and yaw on my Z twist. (right hand) Left hand is translate with twist being up/down. Really wonderful entry into high-end sticks. Just having an issue with the Quantum drive engagement, where I can activate the drive but not engage because of the mandatory (hold) function that can't be changed. None of the buttons on the STECS will hold long enough to engage. I'm sure I need to play around with the software but otherwise super happy with it.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I haven't dug deep onbth3 stecs button setup yet but it might be set as a momentary (fast signal then none) which would make engaging quantum a bit tricky as you press and hold. I use one of the buttons on the base of Mt left stick now and it works OK. That profile attached to the video (linked in description) has it bound to left stick hat left.

[@nathanloner2081]

Awesome video, very helpful. Thank you sir.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad it helped, and thanks for commenting!

[@chadley792]

The amount of people that use yaw on the X axis rather than on the twist on right stick or rudder pedals is mind blowing to me. I would suggest getting the omni throttle adapter for left stick if you are using VKB gladiators. Makes the twist for up and down more intuitive at least in my mind.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Well I like it that way. :-) The good thing about options, is that they're options. Do you need some assistance setting yaw they way you want? Have a vkb throttle on left side of my left stick so got that covered.

[@chadley792]

@@PaganLinuxGeek That is the beauty of it, there are crazy amount of options to fill everyones needs. Just didnt know I was in the minority lol. I was seeing what other people are doing. I have VKB sticks, with the left being an omni, virpil pedals and throttle. I was debating about how to incorporate my throttle but not sure what to use it for.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@chadley792 I've bound speed limiter to the major axis. Mining power to the smaller throw. I'm deciding how to map the various modes to the turn knobs. Most are easy enough (mining/salvage/towing, quantum, scanning). Might have to bind a quick.doubke tap of B to the last position for "normal".mode. The remaining buttons are.awesome for doors, ports, landing gear, configuration toggle. I'm using the WWII throttle. Which are you using?

[@chadley792]

@@PaganLinuxGeek MongoosT-50CM3 I was thinking about using it for a speed limiter but I also want to try to fly decoupled most of the time so that would be null and void. Not sure how the upcoming master modes are going to change everything though. I haven't tried it out yet

[@EliasWindrider]

Today is my first day playing star citizen (well arena commander racing) and I used this video to set up my gladiator evo next premium stick (right hand) and omni throttle (left hand), I initially set up my right hand stick to roll on x and yaw on twist. I quickly changed it back to the default, yaw on x and roll on twist (but i inverted the twist direction) because Rolling and pitching did not fly like I was expecting (at least not near the ground), it did set the pinky button to swap roll and yaw (as that might work better in space). Maybe if I could decrease the sensitivity of the x axis for roll it might fly more like I was thinking. Btw I swap out the #20 springs in the right stick for #10 springs.... I think #15 springs might be about right for me, may have to order those.

[@technick007ify]

Thanks, dual sticks ordered, will use this to set them up!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Keep a watch out for an updated video for 3.23 as there's significant keybind changes.

[@Stuffdexdoes]

Big Thank you and a thumbs up.. i couldne t get the forward /backarad rhing missed the cliccky over to hotas from mouse.. ty ty!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Yeah that's a frequent issue for peeps. Drove me nuts til finding the toggle. Glad I could help!

[@tzetodizark4101]

Thanks for your contribution, I have the same controls , very usefull !!!!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

They're great sticks, glad I could help!

[@hankleberry]

Really love that you took the time to do this. Been playing sims (and star citizen) for years, with quite a few diffrent setups but mainly used Thrustjunker T16000M HOTAS for years now. ABout 4 sets of them in 10 eyars because they're such garbage. When the inevitable potentiometer went bad the most recent time I manually upgraded it to a hall sensor. But it also needs redone every couple months so long story short I just ordered VKB's and was dreading having to go through the word soup that is Star Citizen's keybinds. Your bit on absolute and stuff extremely helped. SO thanks. Also, what kind of freak yaws with left to right XD. I'm kidding, I know some people do that. I can't. It doesn't make sense in my brain. Z-roation is like a steering wheel which turns left and right. IDK. lol.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Very high praise that is very much appreciated! I started with the tm16k as well. You'll love the vkbs!

[@regezas]

Very good video. I touched saturation options while trying to adjust sensitivity, and now it's always strafing left and aiming left only even if I aim or strafe right. Edit: I deleted the user folder and rebinded keys. Everything perfect.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I've not dabbled much in the adjustments as the defaults seem to work really well for my setup. Fortunate there!

[@ronanh13]

very good video and clear instructions, thank you

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks for the comment! Glad I could help. :-)

[@sandsquid]

Saved this tutorial. Thank you!!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks for watching and commenting

[@shadowlordalpha]

I like to have roll and yaw swapped from what you have just because its physically more similar but other that that really good tutorial!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks! I appreciate the comments!

[@Gundamdad]

So helpful!!! Thank you!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Happy to help!

[@WarroirArcAngel]

Yessir thank you great vid!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Happy to help!

[@RyanForT3hWin]

Thanks for the help setting this up!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

You're welcome! Thanks for commenting on the video.

[@adiedri38]

Most excellent video

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad I could help!

[@dimitripinto4747]

Just a suggestion for triggers: I bind one trigger per group too, but in order to avoid having to change default groups, I remove group 1 and bind group 2 and 3 to my triggers. This way the default SC bindings (energy on G2 and ballistics on G3) are already correct.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I've been playing around with fire groups to dual stage trigger binds in the PTU. The new video (still being produced) will have a section about this. Currently I have stage 1 right stick trigger to fire group 1, stage 1 left stick trigger set to fire group 2, 2nd stand right stick trigger to fire group 3, and left stick 2nd stage trigger to fire group 4. I've found this useful for the Hornet and F8C with the variety of guns. I can fire some of them on stage 1, and the others on stage 2. Lets me keep fire on tougher targets while the caps recharge. I appreciate you confirming that I'm not alone!

[@tj_chaos609]

Thanks Pagan nice no nonsense just the facts wham bam thank you sir :)

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks buddy I appreciate it!

[@javadan]

The only thing I may add is to speak about Joystick Gremlin which can turn a number of controls (e.g. joystick, throttle, pedals, gamepad) into a single, virtual joystick so that SC only sees one device. That eliminates a lot of the confusion about control numbers. It is a godsend for me.

[@TheElementalEnclave]

now that we have master modes, I like to see an updated version of this.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

It's coming soom (tm). JK I'm dealing with some tummy bug but will resume production.

[@MavicAir1]

Thanx. I have a x52 pro which I use on older pc but on my new rig I have warthog set up with ch pedals, cougar mfd's, 2 game glass tablets, tobi eye. Even with all those input options it's still difficult to make sure I have the most important functions selected. One thing that makes it easier is to find out which one is which and write it down. pedals=(input 3), throttle =(input 1) for example.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I try to keep the controls I use frequently,.or used in the midst of combat on the hats to minimize.hand travel. Infrequent binds, I typically place on the joystick bases, or on the button box portion of the throttle. Landing gear, VTOL, wing configuration, atc,.door and ports are prime candidates. That's my way, but each has to map according to what works best for them.

[@BudsRoses777]

Excellent guide earned my sub 👏

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks! Happy to help, and I appreciate the sub for sure!

[@new5057]

Thanks for that - very helpful

[@greatdanexlks]

Thanks for this vid. Been fighting sticks being switched forever! Can you explain the new Adjust Trim Settings and their usefulness?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Let me play around with them more and I'll get something out. Thanks for the suggestion, and commenting on the video!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH26k4Bvacqjfsk Here ya go @greatdanexlks

[@axellim3307]

Thank you for the video! I'd like to see how the rest of the button is set up.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

In the linked zip file are my keybinds, and 2 vector images (open with edge if you don't have a preferred vector raster) with the keybinds shown. They were created with joystick-diagrams program. Basically the right stick is nose control (pitch, roll, yaw), targeting, countermeasures, etc. The left stick is navigation, doors, landing gear, vtol, lights, freelook, etc.

[@RickFarris]

You asked for suggestions: I know you are a Virpil guy, but a tutorial on how to add a popular throttle to a two-stick space-sim VKB setup would be well received in the Star Citizen population.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I'm def a VKB fanboy. I have a STECS throttle I could make a quick follow up on how to set it up. Thanks for viewing, and commenting the suggestion! There's an updated guide for 3.23 linked in the description BTW.

[@Reymastereo]

Great Video!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks for watching, and commenting!

[@AWDKONG]

thanksd for the vid easy and simple

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

You're welcome, and thanks for commenting!

[@AlexPebodyGM]

So logic, cool. Thx.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Happy to be of help!

[@jacobtorres9574]

Great work thank you

[@machoalright]

I would recommend making one for 3.21, the 3.20 binds might f the 3.21 up with you keep using the 3.20 ones.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Agreed. Yogi's replies in Spectrum make me think we will see a series of changes for awhile.

[@msbolan]

@10:26 when you saved your keybindings, you forgot to change from 'keyboard/mouse' to 'joystick/hotas'. Will that cause an issue?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Not at all. Kbm, gamepad, joysticks all save to the file

[@maddogtungate6740]

Awesome. Thanks for the video.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad I could help!

[@trevorbrock1105]

Thanks - Short n Sweet

[@jowlazra7472]

Your a joy sir.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Very kind of you sir. Thank-you

[@xDangerDoomx]

Thanks again!!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

You're welcome!

[@JtheMitch]

Absolute life saver. thanks

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I'm glad it helped :-)

[@JtheMitch]

@@PaganLinuxGeek what button do you have your quantum start mapped to? Mine doesn't seem to be turning on, even tho I mapped it to quantum start. Appreciate all the help :) without it I'd still be stranded in space trying to figure my settings lol

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

The same button (left stick, middle hat, left < ) is used for both. Short press to enter qt mode, and a long press (3+ seconds) to engage qt. Th3 default keyboard map is short press B to engage qt mode, and long press to actually jump.

[@thesoldier8477]

Have you ever used the left VKB throttle style stick. I got a good deal on some barely used ones but they’re coming with the left stick being the throttle style. I wonder about buying the attachment from VKB to convert it from HOTAS style to HOSAS style

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I've not personally but have heard great things. @scarredcitizen uses one if I recall correctly as well as severally others I see from.time to time. Most love that it makes the vertical strafe more natural. I'd suggest trying it a bit before making changes. Might be good fit. :-) Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@cedrick7679]

I noticed something about the Cruise Control : before you could enable/disable it anytime, but now your left joystick (the one that controls the forward/backward strafing etc) has to be centered if you want the button to be clickable. If you're strafing forward the button won't work. It's not a big deal, but it's not very practical to have to stop to change modes (I do it very often 😅).

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I was able to engage while moving. Left stick bound to throttle forward/back abs. Were you coupled?

[@cedrick7679]

@@PaganLinuxGeek Yes, I always fly coupled. I'll do some more tests tonight.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Please do and share your binds for movement. I'd like to replicate

[@cedrick7679]

@@PaganLinuxGeek ok 👍

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I played around with this more. If I leave the left stick (throttle forward/backward) untouched and at Centerpoint, I can enable cruise control and it locks to the speed limiter. I control speed limiter on throttle box. Moving the left stick disengaes cruise control. I thought it a bug until reading the post in spectrum I linked in a text post here. Seems the cruise control is going away at some point. They intend to utilize trim instead. I posted a video about setting and using it today. I apologize for the delay in response. I prefer to have a good understanding before commenting or informing, and some family medical issues as of late took my attentions. After using the throttle trim a bit I'm digging it. Will take some repeated use before it becomes.habit.

[@TheRealNimble]

Sub earned great vid. I am trying to figure out how to setup my throttle so it is either is reverse mode or drive like a gear in a car so i can have more length of travel for more precision

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

There is a throttle forward axis binding option. If you do that then I'd urge you to bind a key for toggling forward reverse a couple lines underneath it if memory serves. Doing this means throttle all the way back is 0, and full forward is 100%. Pressing button means ship moves backwards.

[@MrBucky769]

Great video thanks for this it will help me sort things out

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks for watching, and commenting! Reach out if you need help or have suggestions

[@sway1870]

Thank you👌🏿 always my go to

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Happy to help

[@alexpetrov8871]

1:41 what if there is no "input 1 or 2" mentioned at all while joystick "Y-axis" binds perfectly? It doesn't work after that in the game.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

It's been my experience that the first joystick found by SC doesn't get a number designated. It's just joystick X-axis. The 2nd and 3rd joysticks would get a number designated like joystick (2) or joystick (3). If you load into offline free flight mode of arena commander, setup, and test what happens? If bound it will show the button or axis for each in the option list. For example the pitch binding would reflect the axis. If it's not showing the axis then it's not set. There is a short timeout when setting. So if joystick movement isn't being detected that line will remain blank.

[@alexpetrov8871]

@@PaganLinuxGeek Thanks. I figured it out. Single Joystik doesn't have number. Movement didn't work because there are three different bindings for one movement, like "strafe up", "strafe down", "strafe up/down". As soon as I bound joystick to "strafe up/down" it works.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Excellent!

[@robertkercher1980]

if you have the extension that gets added to the VKB joystick, you know that adds dials and switches, does that become part of the stick it is attached to?

[@Chase_The_Calm_Gaming]

HOSAM for me. Love having a left stick with angle attachment. Excellent console tip. Is there a reference to those commands? Floppy disk lol. I remember those days

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Hey Chase! Good to see ya! I'm not aware of a comprehensive console command reference. Some are well known. We're also seen some new ones with the gen12 renderer implementation. Pp_swapdevices joystick # # is a simple flipper to exchange the bindings. You can do the same using a text editor on the xml file if you enjoy that sort of thing. I'm also aware of r_displayinfo [0-3] to show more information about the display such as framerate, memory usage, etc. Also there is r_displaysessioninfo [0-1] to show the session qr code. Handy for bug reports!

[@HDSuperFly.live.247]

Where can I get these? I have the warthog and I'm looking to get dual and these look very affordable so could you please send me the link where I can get the dual the left and the right because Amazon only seems to have the right one. And thanks awesome video

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

www.vkbcontrollers.com assuming your in North America. The models featured in video are the Space Combat Edition EVO Premium left and right. The premium adds an analog mini-stick on the upper section and 5 way hat on the handle in place of a simple button..IMHO worth the extra 20-30..

[@ApexRace]

SC is not recognizing anymore my second Virpils Axis any Idea what I need to fix?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Does it show movement in windows joystick configuration applet?

[@ApexRace]

Yes in Windows and IN the Game it was workiing but not in the Keyword biddings - I had to hard reset all the Biddings now its working again :) Great Video!@@PaganLinuxGeek

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thanks. Glad it's working now.

[@cedrick7679]

Thank you !

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Most welcome!

[@ScarredCitizen]

Well done.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Thank you sir!

[@roiderbeast7527]

yea they changed the inversion for thrust not sure what it is now (no longer throttle forward/backward(abs.)).

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

And a few other keybind breaking changes too. Sometimes I feel like Yogi does it on purpose. :-/ I'm planning to record an updated video this weekend. I want to spend a moment explaining some tips for the master mode toggle and Q jump as you cam bind.both to the same button with varying press durations. Short press to toggle mode, and long press to engage jump. The inversion name escapes me at the moment but I recall it was I'm controls - flight movement - forward /backward

[@nino_brawl2782]

great video. is there any way to set it so when you make a new binding, it deletes the old one? i copied your missile operator mode to the hat on my right joystick, which was by default set to strafe. but now it just has both, so when i activate, add or remove missile, or change missile type i also strafe in each direction. dont think its a big deal its only a quick press

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Sadly no, it warns you that it's also used for ____ but doesn't offer option to remove previous mapped binding. If you have trouble locating the other bindings and dont mind starting over, you can reset to defaults. I show this in the start of video. Also If you are running VKB Space Combat Edition premiums you can toggle between ministick and hat mode by pressing IN on the hat/ministick. The LED will show RED in alt mode. That allows you to map analogue strafing to the ministick and other actions to the hat mode. :-)

[@kevenwang7842]

Hey Ive noticed that the current PU LIVE patch 3.22.1 detects my L-stick as it’s first joystick and any keybind from that stick can be bound as a double tap by pressing ‘Y’. However every other controller like the R-stick or other button panels wont allow for double tap and when their keys are bound. Those include all key binds labeled as “button ‘#’ (input #)”. Please share if you have a solution to this. I Have a full VKB setup with dual Gladiator NXT EVO’s and T-rudder Mk. V with SEM THQ and FSM modules. Great video as well! The control swap console command helped so much 👍

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Do you have joystick gremlin or other joystick control software running?

[@kevenwang7842]

Nope, I just calibrated all of the sticks and modules and close the vkb software. I have been thinking about using joystick gremlin though

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I would only use it if absolutely needed. Less stuff running on the system, and managing joysticks is better IMHO. Have a friend that has to use it for pedals as SC doesn't allow mapping them as needed. Trust me he'd love the option of dumping it. I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: the PTU is allowing ONLY your left stick to have 2 functions for every button if you hold the Y key down?

[@robertkercher1980]

If you have the extension that gets added to the joy stick, you know that adds dials and switches does that become part of the stick it is attached to?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Yes. It changes the "name" it reports in the device configuration utility too. A friend of mine @moonraker113 has the sem installed and reports that it appears are 1 device when using the link cable plugged into each device JST connector. If you connect with a usb cable it's a separate device.

[@foddermike]

your settings worked great for 3.22, can you do an update for 3.23 ??

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Already wrote the script.:-) had been planning to record the video over last weekend but had to do something around the house. I'm reviewing the PTU as there's more keybind changes there as well. Im glad I could help with 3.22!

[@algaefour2327]

Will you be updating this for 3.23? I’m trying to find some binding suggestions for 3.23.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Yes. I'm in process now, actually. :-)

[@cjwramsay]

When using thrust my heads moving around now and looking in direction of push?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Sounds like your freelook might be bound to the same control as forward/backward movement. Reset controls to defaults as shown in the beginning of the video.

[@OldManGamer65]

What about set up for throttle 3.23.1. There is not a throttle forward in controls. Thanks

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@OldManGamer65 yeah they renamed it, again.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

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[@IrieginalDubPlate]

Thank you sir!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

@@IrieginalDubPlate glad I could help!

[@fearstare]

awesome man, great for noobs on hosas like me :)

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Just glad I can help!

[@NIkIdiot-p7s]

can you do like for one jostick and keybord

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Absolutely! Some player prefer HOSAM. Hands On Stick And Mouse. If you want to use the stick for movement and mouse for pitch/yaw then skip the pith yaw section and move joystick for the strafe section. Reverse that if you want the stick to control pitch/roll/yaw.

[@Terran0va_Plays]

the z axis on my left stick doesnt work. i have vkb gladiator nxt premiums. the left stick works for all other controlls but it will not let me bind Z for strafe up and down

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Does it work when using vkb configuration? If not then hit the vkb discord. They are awesome in there. If configuration utilities show movement then it's not bound in SC. Follow the video again from the start. Use (abs) binds when opted.

[@slowrider8680]

Hey just a question but I am using a hotas setup with the gladiator nxt evo and a thrustmaster twcs throttle, how do I configure the throttle so that its only responsible for forward movement by moving back and forth but to reverse I have to press a separate button entirely, right now to go backward I have to move the throttle to 0 and to got forward move to 100 and to stay still I have to have it in an impossible middle position? is there any way I can fix this, thank you!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Yes actually! In the flight movement section bind the throttle to forward (abs). And a button the reverse. Then you press that button to allow reverse.

[@alekstraktorist]

Thanks!

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

You're welcome

[@DouglasMarcaida]

I just received my dual VKBs but as I was setting them up while following the video, the game doesn't recognize certain buttons on just my right joystick. On the left one everything registers, but for example Pitch and Yaw work but when I rotate the stick for Roll the timer just runs out. Same thing for Weapons group one when I pull the trigger.

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Run through the reset and configuration utility as per VKB video. I'll bet that fixes it ;-)

[@DouglasMarcaida]

Thanks that did the trick!@@PaganLinuxGeek

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Glad I could help!.

[@TheValkian]

Do you have more binding available?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I have my own personal files. 1 is dual sticks, other has a throttle mixed in. Is there something particular, that youre looking for?

[@TheValkian]

@@PaganLinuxGeek I have a Omni Left Prem and right prem. Mostly for Dual Sticks. I've actually joined your discord :)

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

I'm running standard SCE premiums on left and right. My bindings are for non Evo editions. I think moonraker has evos. I'd ask him in discord.

[@NovaRexus64]

Tha ks for the video, ive been running into a strange issue with my velocity one flight stick, when i go to load my my saved keybind control profile the Joystick device doesnt show up and wont let me select it, so i have to manually eedo my keybinds everytime they are defaulted. Its been happening since 3.20 released amd still happens in the PTU too, have you run into anything like this?

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Is the keybind file located in user/0/controls/mapping folder and named something_keybinds.xml ??

[@NovaRexus64]

@@PaganLinuxGeek yes

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

Sounds like it's not recognizing the file format. Can you send me the file so I can look at it?

[@NovaRexus64]

@PaganLinuxGeek sure how would you like me to send it to you, I can once I'm off work, it's a HOMAS setup btw

[@PaganLinuxGeek]

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