Paint Stripping & Rust Repairs #3 How much rust do they find on Howards XC Panel Van?

[@leoncarlier]

Watching a Master build a car in real-time is a massive treat! Thank you Howard.

[@AstillDesign]

Very welcome

[@benjohnson7170]

Bloody hell mate. You answer every comment. Kudos mate Also, am a backyard hack. Been doing a Tonner for years. You're are way above my head..Lol. Most people here... Etc. Thanks

[@AstillDesign]

Cheers mate, try to answer them all

[@rhettcorbett3346]

The lack of rust under the plenum was a bonus.

[@AstillDesign]

Sure is

[@RodChown-th2vc]

I had an XC Panel Van 302 4 speed brand new when I was a younger person, I loved that car and still regret selling it. I like watching you reserect this one. Yes the flameless windows used to pop open at 140 and you could put a fist through the gap at 160.

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah I know right! I ended up putting an aluminium block at the top so I could wind the window up behind it when we traveled

[@geesmith6656]

Cannot wait to see this through the rebuild process.

[@AstillDesign]

Stay tuned, it will take a while

[@SullysRodskustoms.]

Its great how you show people when it's cost effective to do stuff yourself and when it's better to just send stuff to the media blasters.

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate, appreciate your support

[@mike-rp9cc]

awesome Howard love all the how too's but really appreciate you taking the time to show some pointers that really do actually help the average back yard project take a step up, onya mate

[@AstillDesign]

my pleasure, good to have you along

[@rossbritton4008]

This Guy knows really his craft..

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate

[@g6et_wrx177]

Thanks Howard. Have to say thanks again for helping me with getting my XA plenum repairs up to your standard.

[@AstillDesign]

Glad to help

[@blairread4414]

Wow that van is in great shape...love the episode

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah it sure is

[@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS]

Good to see you strip ya cars like I do, shes in the Nude, I'm watching as you may remember I had 1 of these in Orange, with muscle car running gear, paint stripping is fantastic when running the body file over it shows all the little dents, even more so finding hail damage, Sweet episode 😊🇦🇺🤝🇦🇺😎👍✌

[@AstillDesign]

Yes mate very true

[@tonymontana897]

Thank you Howard and Darren. Great work as always and looking forward to the progress. Also a big thank you to Louise for yet another quality production. My biggest bug bear with some content creators is that they have no idea how to manage the sound levels, especially the music sections. Always waaay too loud and you have to constantly adjust the volume down so it's not stupidly annoying. Your work is perfect Louise. Thank you again !!

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks for the feedback, Louise has certainly found her calling.

[@peterhess6039]

Love the channel - really admire the skills involved

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate

[@shaneconnors757]

GREAT SHOW!...Love ya Work

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks for following

[@Smurphenstein]

Beautiful work. Around twenty years ago I sold my XW Wagon. 61,000 miles on it and a one family car. Unfortunately I just couldn't find anyone I could trust in Auckland to not rip me off or cut corners on a restoration I was doing.

[@AstillDesign]

Sorry to hear that

[@danoutdooroz6580]

Love your work Astill, love the simplicity of your explanations and how easy you make it look. For anyone watching.. its hard hard work dont do it haha

[@AstillDesign]

I appreciate that! Persistence is the key

[@benjohnson7170]

Nice one. 3 years later... And I'm still going.

[@danoutdooroz6580]

@@benjohnson7170 mines going on 4 years, should be finished in a few month

[@Me-dt3ul]

Thanks mate for another informative video. The van looks in great shape.

[@AstillDesign]

Glad you enjoyed it, it sure is

[@LRogan520]

Looking fab the body on the van.

[@AstillDesign]

Yes mate it sure is.

[@lauriesmith9019]

Amazingly good shell!

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah got very lucky

[@chrisoo8998]

Oh yeh I'm pumped for this project looking forward to watching the build 👌

[@AstillDesign]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@robbricknell1789]

I've been waiting for this .... when it's all done and you decide to make it a giveaway treat, I'll quite happily be the recipient. A good start Howard

[@AstillDesign]

No this one!

[@JAStheACE]

Unreal H. Very pleased to see the van in progress.

[@AstillDesign]

Yes mate, me too

[@Techbitznpcs]

i can see this van being another Astill Design masterpiece is its own wright. always great attention to detail when pulling a car down to bring back to its former glory or better.

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate, looking forward to making my own decisions

[@darrenfrauenfelder6609]

Stripping paint is a coot of a job at best of times but is satisfying. This is a good instructional for doing it yourself, rolling out into a hot summer day help the stripper too I've found. Full acid dip is the easy expensive way.

[@AstillDesign]

Yes I think I have tried most types of strip over the years

[@craigplunkett5426]

Always love watching the master at work its cleaning up slowly but shes still got a lot of good metal after all these years 👌 Mr Astill

[@AstillDesign]

You got that right!

[@GMandHoldens]

I enjoy watching your vids Howard, you provide alot of info on how to do things. Big thumbs up 👍...

[@AstillDesign]

Glad to hear it

[@jcr6548]

Patience and perseverance for a job done right 👍

[@AstillDesign]

Yes, you need some good music and company

[@simondent2196]

Howard you are a master craftsman. I have been waiting for you guys to start this project.

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate, just trying to get it done before I turn 70 😂😂

[@brunohoutwipper4225]

Really enjoyed watching the show

[@AstillDesign]

Glad to hear it!

[@russelblackwell6041]

Just have to say one of my favourite Fords with the twin headlight grille the way you explain everything you cant buy knowledge experience doing things yourself thanks for the continued quality videos Howard another passionate Ford man

[@AstillDesign]

My pleasure, it’s good to be back into my own job.

[@bigdavedownunder]

I swear if it wasn't for the video quality i would say this video was 40 years ago that body is so nice

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah right on.

[@stevegus2845]

Well he does exercise! 😂😂😂

[@bigdavedownunder]

@@stevegus2845 lol cheeky

[@davidvincent2838]

Love your work Howard. Such perfection! When its painted, you'd never know what the original colour was. I love the attention to future longevity to make these classics live on!

[@AstillDesign]

Thank you very much!

[@leonardgilbreath9004]

I live in the high desert and rust on prep panels isn't a problem even in the winter put but prepping them the right way is critical and your videos are very informative thumbs up 👍👍👍

[@AstillDesign]

thanks for your feedback, much appreciated!

[@barrymorphett8610]

Can't wait to see the rest of the resto of the Panel Van. Great show, keep up the great work. Well done.

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate, will do

[@100thhog2]

Love your work and whats even better is its all blue oval 👌👍

[@AstillDesign]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@ACTConcreteCutting]

Great to see the level of attention that goes into exacting bodywork 👍

[@AstillDesign]

Absolutely

[@kanenaysmith9287]

Thanks for sharing mate. great content

[@AstillDesign]

Glad you enjoyed it, Need more hours in the day

[@jraposo911]

Nice work 👍😊JR in Canada 🇨🇦

[@AstillDesign]

Welcome to you from Canada.

[@walter9724]

Doing a...Rock Solid job howard 👍👍

[@AstillDesign]

Cheers Mate

[@honestpat7789]

Love these videos, Howard. This level and attention to detail is missing in a lot of KZbin videos 👌

[@AstillDesign]

Glad you like them!

[@robhughes1776]

Been hanging out to see the progress

[@AstillDesign]

Trying to get a bit done

[@dtengineering1]

Great work. Cheers

[@AstillDesign]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@stevemcintyre4398]

Look like you've got a relatively rust free gem there Howard. Looking forward to watching the rest of the resto/build.

[@AstillDesign]

So far so good

[@adammclean7918]

Another bloody amazing episode as always!!

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks mate

[@davidbell4410]

Really looking forward to this build, I have watched all of the build series and enjoyed every episode, great to see all your achievements within the street machine industry, and using your craft to build a tribute to the car that started it all, top stuff

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks David, it certainly has been a ride and a half

[@stuartruss7536]

I have always put cling wrap over the paint stripper and let it work. Then go with steel wool and low grade thinners to clean

[@AstillDesign]

I do use the cling wrap, I use the large packing plastic or the masking plastic on big areas, I will try the steel wool and thinners

[@StevenRutherford-e7u]

Always look forward for the next episode, have learnt heaps of skill from your videos that i use on my own car builds.

[@AstillDesign]

That’s good to know

[@stevefinch8519]

Another great video , like the fact you are doing it all by hand most people blast them nowadays , i yhink doung by yuu catch all the little bits , looks a really cool van look foward to more videos . Cheers . Steve .

[@AstillDesign]

thanks Steve, comercially you need to blast. For owner build I like to do by hand.

[@GODEES77]

Remarkable how clean the van is under the paint ect for its age

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah, good dry country car

[@jeffbowman7017]

Great work and explanations as always Howard. Much appreciated.

[@AstillDesign]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@peterrobins3708]

Brilliant video, that's the way to get young or new-to-cars people hooked on building & rebuilding old cars. Utterly brilliant videos. Although I never thought I'd get to an age when I'd call an XC an old car hahaha Preserving history & teaching other to do the same properly. You all need your own statue ;-)

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks Peter. Not much I can add to that

[@schrammrobert699]

Wow Howard. I learnt so much from this one video. I'm doing exactly this process (on almost the same vehicle - XB not XC though) next and I was a bit nervous about the next step. I've now got a full step by step guide and that gives me a huge amount of confidence as I progress and you've know idea how much that helps guys like us! I learnt three or four new things about the plenum removal that is going to be so valuable to me in the coming weeks, like the best way to get out the welds as well as little techniques Darren does along the way. Also saw one or two welds that I didn't know were there but because you break it down so well, that's saved me a lot of time and some swearing as well :) I wish mine only had as much rust as this. This is a really clean shell! - I'll be coming to Astill for my rust panels as well :) Keep up the good work Howard and thanks again!!

[@AstillDesign]

Good to have you along

[@tamaraburke5681]

Good video Howard the van is fairly good for rust

[@AstillDesign]

Yes mate, just the gutters

[@ivancurmi3980]

Great informative video Howard love your work.

[@AstillDesign]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bronbroo]

Looks the goods keep up the excellent work Panel vans are rare. I always wanted a Xd van

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah they are the rage at the moment

[@gman7949]

First time seeing this channel. great content.

[@AstillDesign]

Welcome, you have lots of catching up to do😀

[@jasonanderson9294]

Hi Howard, always enjoy your channel and you make it enjoyable keep up the amazing content!

[@AstillDesign]

I appreciate that!

[@terryirvine7090]

Great work Howard as usual! Unreal how the black didn't have any undercoat! (No surprises)Must have been late Friday arvo, and the painter was in a hurry! Looking forward on your progress!

[@AstillDesign]

😂😂

[@davidbarnsley8486]

Howard you have chisels for wood work and choppers for steel work Well I do and I use my choppers quite a lot when I’m doing my gutter work 👍👍

[@AstillDesign]

Love butchering a wood chisel😂😂

[@theghost6412]

I have seen some cars that when they started removing paint they discovered the panels resembled chicken wire or flyscreen mesh. Some found actual open cracks all the way around and that the paint was the only thing holding the structural panels together. Whole sides of coupes just fall off

[@AstillDesign]

yeah got lucky with this one

[@mickwhitehouse7537]

Awesome stuff mate keep it up

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks, will do!

[@militaryvehiclemarkings4696]

Hi Howard excellent episode.Try using Butyl Rubber gloves as the paint stripper doesn’t go through them. I used to paint aircraft for Defence and we used them when we had to paint strip.

[@AstillDesign]

thanks for the tip

[@saltydog888]

When I see classic cars from the 70’s (which are my favourite) loaded up with thick paint I always think of the hidden rust in those hidden places. Every unrestored car from around that era must be suspect in the cancer stakes.

[@AstillDesign]

Yeah got lucky with this one, they are a mystery when you buy something 50 years old

[@danphillips2461]

Nice work Howard, gotta love paint stripper on ya bare skin.....nuclear burn!!! I see your down on ya knees doing that lower panel stuff. I sussed out a nice way to save bruised knees when doing stuff down low on the car, a simple cheap foam yoga mat from Kmart. $7 and u can cut it up to smaller bits. Makes the job heaps eaiser!

[@AstillDesign]

Cheers mate, I have a knee pad just rushing for the filming.

[@stevenkirk2563]

Howard that van is mint. Brush the steel panels like they do stainless and clear coat. The body is too nice to cover up with paint.

[@AstillDesign]

That’s an interesting thought

[@samperras]

Good simple content

[@AstillDesign]

Glad you think so!

[@angelonikitaras2977]

great episode ..man that shell is in amazing condition weather your a Ford Mopar or Holden lover its amazing to see a car that age in that condition especially if your in the paint & body game... im not sure if its anything to look into but i had a old time coach builder /fabricator tell me to use warm water when washing off the deoxidene, im not to sure i remember why or even if its a actual thing being an apprentice some 30 years ago ive asked reps & technical demonstrators etc yet no one could answer it i guess as long as it works it dosent matter but i was always curious... once again very informative & well explained episode

[@AstillDesign]

The heat would help it flash off quicker

[@angelonikitaras2977]

@@AstillDesign cheers great work again

[@chrisbenn8691]

At 29.40 I've found that wiping off with acetone works better. I prefer not to wipe down with water.

[@AstillDesign]

Henkel data sheet says water, so that’s what I use.

[@stephenmathews7020]

Love the channel! What is your favourite boss xc episode - mine was when it went to paint! You with your new child.😂

[@AstillDesign]

Mine too!

[@tinnedanger]

If you've got a few layers of paint . Scuff it first . Put the stripper on and cover it with glad wrap. It keeps the chemicals in without drying out and works through the layers. Spartan Derin A was the best ever metal prep phosphoric acid treatment. It would be a hazardous chemical nowadays. It would take those deep rust deposits out real fast. It left a surface so clean, you could paint on it. 😉

[@AstillDesign]

correct, that's what I did with the roof, The gel i use does pretty much the same thing. it will be in the next episode

[@jesus_built_my_hotrod]

scored well with that body

[@AstillDesign]

sure did

[@craighogg3746]

Love the videos Howard, have learnt a lot of tricks lately. quick question. Best way to neutralise the stripper before continuing with primers. always seem to miss a bit and it bites me later. cheers on the channel.

[@AstillDesign]

Clean clean clean, metho water, then dioxidine, lots of blowing with compressed air. Epoxy then seam seal everything. Wipe off excess seam seal so it’s not seen.

[@shoominati23]

I wish they made the area behind the door where it goes to meet the rest of the body as pleasant on the final XH / XG wagons. It looks like some ambulance conversion company did it in a hurry not worrying how it looked, because the sides are slightly wider on the late wagons so they had to bring it out somehow. I am recommissioning one for a daily driver to do my detailing trade, nothing special just like having the amount of space to carry stuff when you find the need with the plus of being able to kip in the thing. Maybe later I might throw a barra in or something, a first for a lifetime GM guy 😛

[@AstillDesign]

welcome to the Blue bloods

[@poydapoyderson646]

Thanks Howard. I have a hq Holden Van with the same roof heavy surface rust and pitting where a duck tail spoiler was. Can you show the last metal pic before you coat please. I have bought the same gel as you and I want to see is the rust totally 100% removed before epoxy or just mostly gone and the remainder converted? Thanks Pete

[@AstillDesign]

It will be in the next episode. It will remove the lot

[@dalesutton7413]

Hi Howard great video thanks. Love the way you paint strip, what is the product you use to protect against surface rust? I see theres a few phos based products on the market? Working my way through the build series an following the panel van thanks for putting it on video Cheers Dale

[@AstillDesign]

Hi, I use the one recommended and distributed by PPG. Has a few names, bondrite by Henkel Deoxidine Part no 978-10007

[@dalesutton7413]

@@AstillDesign thanks much appreciated rebuilding a little 1970 Cortina it's gutted ready for stripping paint appreciate the chanel an advice

[@adelaideinvigilation5230]

So was it luck that the door sills didnt rust out or did Ford know they wouldnt rust out/

[@AstillDesign]

Most of them now have rust especially coastal cars

[@sandorgyurka9087]

Any show on the cleaning on the inside panels and protection?

[@AstillDesign]

This is a work in progress, there is another episode this Thursday.

[@LordandGodofYouTube]

Hi Howard, did you consider dipping the body, and if so why did you go the manual labour way? There's nobody down here in Tasmania that dips car bodies and I was thinking about starting up a business doing it, but it's hard to gauge how much demand there would be.

[@AstillDesign]

I’ve dipped a few of my cars, my concern is getting back into the double panel and frame areas to seal it back up. Being my own car labour is free and less evasive as all the stripping types. You never seem to get rid of the medium from blasting

[@geoffreilly5352]

Hi Howard are you going to go with the walnut glow brown a great ford colour - love what you are doing cheers

[@AstillDesign]

It’s not walnut, it’s the other brown. But no it will be a new version of Sherwood green

[@brianbowditch1740]

Any ideas on a theme for the back, or will it be a camper?

[@AstillDesign]

Nothing fixed as yet

[@anthonyberry6572]

Hey Howard! im using the same poly stripper on my XC, and im finding the little bits of paint left behind are coming off easily with thinners on a rag. Is there any reason you think i shouldnt do that? will the thinners affect the bare metal in any way do you think? cant wait to see more on the van 👍👍

[@AstillDesign]

Hey mate, thinners will be fine for clean up. Hoping to find some time in the new year

[@RobNunn-fq7bx]

Is there a neutralisation process after stripping before any primer / sealer procedures are carried out ?

[@AstillDesign]

The dioxidine process will sort it

[@texanranger7212]

I am learning heaps! Never had much success with paint stripper before but am not keen to have another go. Any clues as to colour?

[@AstillDesign]

Yes will be a version of my original Sherwood green van

[@texanranger7212]

@@AstillDesign I love the original green you had for the van. Perhaps a bit more metallic/pearl?

[@texanranger7212]

@@AstillDesign Cool! I r5eally like that colour.

[@PhilKnowles-u7z]

Hi Howard, I'm finding this very useful & informative for a Bronco project I currently have on the go (rust issues ....). You mentioned you will use a gel on the roof to eat the remaining rust; any brand you recommend? Many thanks in advance

[@AstillDesign]

Hi, I’m using “rusted solutions” gel

[@mikecoventon8217]

Great update Howard, are you keeping the windows in the rebuild?

[@AstillDesign]

No mate always wanted windowless

[@SuperBossman9]

Do you use deoxidine on parts that have been blasted? Or so long as you get them in primer straight away it’s ok?

[@AstillDesign]

straight into epoxy

[@kaslkaos8447]

have just come across your channel, and being a big fan of the Sundowner I've already subscribed. But I have a technical question. If you chose to convert it to windowless, what would be the best way to go about this (to prevent any warping) ?

[@AstillDesign]

I will be converting this one as well and covering it in the episodes

[@adriankite8849]

Love your work Howard, do you ever put clear plastic sheet over your paint stripper? cause it stops the paint stripper from drying out and works faster!!

[@AstillDesign]

Yes mate sure do, especially in the summer

[@rajrford2246]

What size mig wire do you use? I have learnt so much from watching all your vids Thank You. I am doing my 4 door XB GS currently doing the very rusted area under the plenum with your help.

[@AstillDesign]

thanks for you input

[@narena80]

Hey mate Just wondering where you source the Bonderite from? I cant seem to find anyone around that sells it?

[@AstillDesign]

Hi, I just did some research, it has been repackaged by PPG under their "Onechoice" brand SX520 - Metal Conditioner www.ppgrefinish.com.au/Distributors.aspx Cheers H

[@TheMichaelStephens]

Being your own car, how much $$$ do you think you'll save? Is there a dollar value goal to get the build under?

[@AstillDesign]

You would like to think you have a budget, realistically you just save wherever you can.

[@johnslender5408]

Hi Howard, when you get towards the tailgate area is there any chance you could show how that sub frame and hinges work on the lift back please?. From what I can tell the lift back frame is slightly lower compared to the barn door recess. I'm pretty handy in fabricating and would like to convert my barn doors to lift back/tailgate. This will mean fabricating the lift back from scratch. They are rare as hens teeth to find for a conversion.

[@AstillDesign]

Hey mate, send me a message on Facebook “ASTILL design” and I send you a video off my phone.

[@thaireetired75]

What grit you use to prep metal before epoxy?

[@AstillDesign]

Hi, on bare metal180-240 then Dioxidine before epoxy. see this episode. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGnPc6OZoLZ-Z5o 1:07minutes

[@mattmerc4785]

Is that drivers tower punched up Howard?

[@AstillDesign]

No mate looks all straight

[@militaryvehiclemarkings4696]

Hi again Howard Are you stripping the paint from the interior and how will you do that?

[@AstillDesign]

I will make it up as I go, the inside is very clean and dry.

[@gregsmith3366]

Great info👌do you need to neutralise the paint stripper after wire brush and can you use the anti rust straight after or need to wait🍻

[@AstillDesign]

Wash off with water, then deoxidise with scotch brite. I will probably pressure clean the lot.

[@Pvosinc]

sepitone auto stripper and pressure washer - shit is hot AF so suit up - lave it on cover with glad wrap for a hour and gurney off 👌

[@AstillDesign]

Thanks for the heads up

[@justonemorepan1082]

Have you ever tried lanolin ( sheep wool oil ) products to hold of the oxidation before you paint?.

[@AstillDesign]

I would prefer not to be using an oil on the surface. We do use a CRC product on our bare metal repair sections

[@RichardJones-sm1io]

Hi Howard, I wonder if there a balance here between blasting or acid dipping or manual stripping. Seems small DIY vs body workshops is the passion for automotive restoration. A bit like a project with the old man and son you agree?

[@AstillDesign]

on our commercial jobs we strip the outer panels and blast the underside, interior and engine bay. I tring to do this more how you would do it from home.

[@lancecooper4646]

I'm shocked you haven't got more subs, but it'll happen 👍

[@AstillDesign]

Working on it!