Painting Poorly: HOW TO PAINT - A Song of Ice and Fire - Lannister Guardsmen and Halberdiers

[@MikeMeeple]

Do you think these original infantry units still hold a place of value in your lists?

[@ramza813]

Absolutely!! Best objective campers with Guard Captain and Lannister Supremacy!!

[@Jewus19]

I must say they are a bit behind due to the slight powercreep but I personally still value halberdiers but I know that they are not one of the stronger units in game sadly. Also, everything started well, the red, the silver metal...just after I painted the gold trims on the first halberdier I started to question my life choices.. :D

[@MikeMeeple]

Oh, yeah. Painting the gold trim is not only tricky, but it’s GRUELING. It is physically exhausting for me to paint all that detail, but keep it up, it’s worth it in the end!

[@OntheTableGaming]

Even in the 2021 update, the Guardsmen are still tanks!

[@Guru_Swami]

Okay, now I’m just hooked and binge watching the painting videos. 😜 These are absolutely gorgeous! Totally subbed and saving these for reference as I work through the Stark vs Lannister starter box.

[@MikeMeeple]

I’m glad you’re liking them! Are you running Stark or Lannister?

[@Guru_Swami]

@@MikeMeeple neither yet. LOL just got the starter but leaning towards Stark.

[@ragnarokivae6136]

So exited when you paint the new greyjoys 😁

[@jeffreylee5529]

You spoil us Master Meeple!

[@cronkitepercussion]

So that's a good Vallejo red triad. I wish Vallejo published triad charts

[@MikeMeeple]

It’s a little frustrating that they don’t, but I’ve enjoyed trying to find out which ones work.

[@saltelkdruid]

Any thoughts on doing a quick guide on Starks? Thanks for this guide, this is going to be my first game where i will paint models.

[@MikeMeeple]

100% they are in the queue. I have some older written ones that you can access on my blog at mikemeeple.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_16.html, but I need to update my Sworn Swords and Sworn Shields as most of those pictures got devoured by an old server, but the instructions are still there.

[@MikeMeeple]

@SaltElk Druid, my new Stark Sworn Swords video tutorial is live if you want to check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4S6c4SbjNmca5o

[@Michaelkayslay]

DO you think a red ink wash over the red would be better than nuln oil? I must admit, I've never seen anyone use red wash, but nuln oil does make it look amazing

[@MikeMeeple]

You could definitely do that for a deeper red color, but I specifically chose not to, because you wouldn’t want the red wash to get on the gold trim or insignia, as it would change it from gold to red. If you want to use red wash, make sure you don’t get any on the gold.

[@Michaelkayslay]

Awesome video . Could you use sand as a basing material then dry brushed ?

[@MikeMeeple]

You could, but depending on the grain size of the sand, you may want to mix it in with glue and paint at the same time, or even apply it with super glue before you prime the figure. All these techniques can have varying results, but they all look pretty good, it just depends on the look you’re going for.

[@Michaelkayslay]

@@MikeMeeple I'm just poor and I usually eat sand for dinner but thought I could use sand maybe dry brushed green. Or I could get some flock I guess

[@MikeMeeple]

Here’s an example of some basing that I did with some rough sand, glue, and drybrushing on the right: facebook.com/MikeMeeple/photos/a.153889968554150/237308310212315/?type=3

[@vermaledijd592]

Would priming in black and painting on the red with a brush have the same effect? I'm trying to save some money, but how much extra time would it cost me this way?

[@MikeMeeple]

It wouldn’t have the same affect per se, but you could definitely do it. You’ll just miss out on the rudimentary shading they red spray over black would provide, but you can achieve the same thing by taking a little more time with your shades and highlights.

[@thecalvatron1955]

Looks great. Did you use multiple coats of nuln oil? The shadows are really dark, darker than I can normally get with a single coat of nuln oil. Looks great though as it adds some really nice contrast

[@MikeMeeple]

I only used a single coat of nuln oil. What you’re seeing are the effects of the zenithal priming. Giving the black basecoat, then spraying with Mephiston Red from above helps darken those shadows, and then you highlight up to give it as much contrast as you like!

[@thecalvatron1955]

@@MikeMeeple thanks so much for the info and swift reply. I'm going to buy the Stark vs Lannister set soon. How long did you find it took to paint each of the Lannister infantry models? I'm going to do the math and see what I'm letting myself in for 🤦‍♂️

[@MikeMeeple]

Lannister is tricky because of the gold trim. If you batch paint them (do multiple of the same model at once) you could probably get through about 5-6 in 2 hours or so, drying time included.

[@thecalvatron1955]

@@MikeMeeple okay thanks and thanks for the great tutorial! 👍

[@Michaelkayslay]

I’m using scarlet and gore red. But they seem very dull . Are the reds you use a lot brighter ?

[@MikeMeeple]

Red Gore is a decent Mephiston Red substitute, and Scarlet would work for Dark Vermillion, but you’re missing something to sub in for the Amatanth Red, which is an orangey red. That provides that final highlight and really makes the highlights pop.

[@gabrielnguyen5580]

awesome

[@MikeMeeple]

Thanks! I’m glad you like it!

[@thehonestaspy102]

Would spraying it just red work as well?

[@MikeMeeple]

You could, but you’d lose some of the depth and rudimentary shading that happens from the zenithal process.

[@thehonestaspy102]

@@MikeMeeple would two spray coats not cover the detail?

[@MikeMeeple]

That’s one of the reasons I use Stynylrez primer. It goes on very thin, so the details still stand out. The Citadel Color Spray is also quite good in that regard. Army Painter color primers are a little thicker, so I wouldn’t recommend using that for the whole model, though for how I apply it here, it’s probably okay. In fact, I actually use this same technique with Army Painter’s Plate Mail Metal primer for my Rose Knights.

[@thehonestaspy102]

@@MikeMeeple so if I used Mephiston red over chaos black would that be ok? I've never heard of Stynylrez is all, not sure if its a thing in the UK

[@MikeMeeple]

Oh yeah, I’m sure that’ll be just fine. Stynylrez is an airbrush primer. I probably should have mentioned that lol

[@michaeltei4173]

Look, I like your content, but we gonna need some more videos! Maybe Lannister Knights?:D or would you just use the same technique?

[@MikeMeeple]

Hi, Michael! I’m glad you like the videos! More are coming! As for the Knights of Casterly Rock, you can check out my written tutorial at: mikemeeple.blogspot.com/2019/01/painting-poorly-song-of-ice-and-fire_25.html And I’d use the Gemstone Red for the armor found in the Army Painter Colour Metallic Set: amzn.to/3DJRxrY

[@ramza813]

good to see you using real stuff not the $0.49 Target craft paints lol

[@MikeMeeple]

You know, I don’t want to discourage anyone from jumping into this hobby, if those are their resources. And I’ve shown in previous tutorials that you can absolutely go that route. However, it’s been abundantly clear from my supporters that they’d like me to use and reference the major brands ie. Citadel, Army Painter, and Vallejo. So, I have to listen to the people...

[@ramza813]

@@MikeMeeple "Paintint Not So Poorly" series now!

[@ramza813]

they wear skirts? D'oh!

[@MikeMeeple]

I mean... I’m just calling it how I see it on that one...

[@ramza813]

@@MikeMeeple lol the new sculpts look awesome. they have actual armor on now like in the show. hopefully in another year or 2 we will be able to get them!