Paleontologist Rates 10 Dinosaur Scenes In Movies And TV | How Real Is It? | Insider

[@HannahMikayla430]

i love how he was like "this t-rex vs spinosaurus fight is completely ridiculous and stupid but i enjoyed it ill give it an 8"

[@lootjunior]

It's useless to put up T-rex vs spino, soo many more interesting things about dinosaurs... t-rex would win tho :D

[@cherrymoore5166]

🤣🤣 and then said I'm not gonna tell you who would win (t-rex) then laughs🤣 brilliant love his energy ☺️

[@luiscarlosqg]

Yeah, that was the most funny part of the interview. He really enjoyed this interview, I am happy I watched it 🙂

[@TheRealRiptide01]

@@lootjunior no it’s 50-50

[@shinybernard0455]

I guess every paleontologist has a love/hate relationship with jurassic park saga and other films because they’re so inaccurate but at the same time it’s the reason why they wanted to do that job as a kid

[@christ4032]

Passionate paleontologist who thinks children are annoying? 10/10 for accuracy on Dr Grant at least.

[@bomcabedal]

Specifically, children in monster movies. Although the dog that they have to return for is usually more annoying still.

[@geraldfrost4710]

@@bomcabedal Sometimes one must risk a few minutes of life and a few inches of limb. To rush into a burning building to rescue a cat is a damn fool thing to do, but to come out without the cat is even worse. "Damn! I've gone insane!" Moist Von Lipwig in Pratchett's Going Postal.

[@Lovemy1911a1]

Movie Dr. Grant yes, but not book Dr. Grant, who liked kids as they were into dinosaurs as well

[@GriffinWolf]

Except in the book, Grant absolutely loved kids. Movie Grant has so many issues that this one pales in comparison.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

THe book was diferent there it was hammond that hated chilren . andd Grant loved children for their interest in dinosaurs. I always recomend watch the movie first , then read the book as the movie is a disapointment, in comparison.

[@teddyf3960]

“We accidentally gave it cuttlefish camouflage and we don’t know how.” This guy is hilarious 😂

[@sorrenblitz805]

Except in the movie Henry Wu knew it likely could do that. He was only surprised when he learned it actually evaded thermal tracking.

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

but that guy is just condescending

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

@BurningSaints the problem come to the way he explain the thinbgs , until being severe to some notes.

[@Dead25m]

@@daegnaxqelil2733 Maybe don't make dumb decissions for your movie and one would not have to be condescending?

[@maxonite]

@@Dead25m Scientific inaccuracies in a literal science fiction action thriller are not dumb decisions. Filmmaking isn’t about replicating real life. Jurassic Park with scientifically accurate dinosaurs would be boring. The T rex would likely not even attack humans because we don’t look like their prey and carnivores spend most of their time resting rather than hunting.

[@jen-a-purr]

He’s got a point, “Lions don’t sneak up behind buffalo & roar & then chase them down…” he’s sure got a point there.

[@dodowhisperer2114]

well for Rexy you can use the excuse "T-Rex doesn’t wanna be fed, he wants to hunt" so she could be doing it for the thrill of the hunt since she's always had prey that hasn't been able to run. Plus when she ambushed and killed the Galimius she didn't roar and chase she just ran right out of cover and killed it before it had time to react so she does know how to properly ambush prey.

[@Dominik40301]

Its not that i brag, but i unloaded an huge dung this morning, and it needed 4 flushes to go down

[@Ryan-ob6gp]

A lion doesn't have to tell you its a lion

[@nine_tails137]

I can definitely agree to that. Predators wouldn't announce their presence to their prey, allowing them time to escape. There's a reason lions, Tigers and Cheetahs move slowly and quietly when hunting prey like antelope and zebras. Even Owls' wings are intentionally silent to help them hunt mice.

[@maxputhoff1436]

"I refuse on principle to answer 'who would win in a fight' questions about dinosaurs because it's trite and uninteresting. But it's T-Rex." Lmfao that was a good one.

[@ugurturk965]

dude you supose to be up on the top

[@Lovemy1911a1]

I had a good laugh at that part.

[@megoblks]

Cracked me up

[@kevingold1966]

Depends who strikes first. Thats mainly it.

[@rodrigopinto6676]

In real life rex win 90%

[@TheSamfrog]

I love how much fun this guy is having with his nitpicking. Bring him back

[@hansolowe19]

It's good! And they should feather the next jurassic park. ☝️

[@Andrew-Lee91]

This is literally a portrait of the modern Era and all its issues. Somebody judging made up things, while never ever having seen the things he judges in real life. For sure this lad has more clues about Dinos than 99% of all people on this lovely Planet. Still we all have no f*cking clue of dinosaurs and making up things all the time. AMAZING

[@hansolowe19]

@@Andrew-Lee91 🤷‍♂️

[@eloy89]

@@hansolowe19 Watch the trailer for Jurassic World: Dominion.

[@BonShula]

@@Andrew-Lee91 I have never seen USA with my own eyes but we know it exists.

[@kickballjedi]

I always thought "Don't move, their eyesight is based on movement" is something you tell somebody else as you run away.

[@Croftice1]

The eyesight thing is from the book, but unfortunately it's poorly translated into the movie. In the book, Alan Grant was shocked, terrified by his close encounter with a living T-rex, he couldn't move (also was all alone in the scene, I think, unlike in the movie, where he has Lex by his side), the Rex couldn't see him, but still could sniff him and roared at him from the close distance. He was puzzled at first, then made a connection to what Henry Wu told him earlier, how they combine the paleoDNA with modern lizard, frogs and stuff (it's still ridiculous, because even frogs and lizards can see unmoving things, they just happen to be able to spot moving things better), so he came to the conclusion, that the Rexy's brain somehow mutated from the frog DNA. It's weird, but it's somehow justified in the book. Perhaps another showcase, on how the JP scientists had absolutely no idea, what they were doing. Maybe they unintentionally messed something and it resulted in Rexy's bad eyesight. Well, it's not perfect, but it still has some reasoning in there. But in the movie? It sells it as a fact, that T-rex had a bad eyesight from get go. Grant even mentioned it during the kid scare scene, way before meeting any living T-rex. He said to the kid something like "but the raptor, unlike a T-rex, will see you", he still sells it as a fact, that Rexes had bad eyes. I love the JP/W movies, but yes, they are flawed.

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

@@Croftice1 yeah and what's even more weird is that it gets retconned in the second book where it's explained that T-rex definitelly didn't have poor eyesight

[@Thefufflylord]

@@Croftice1 The book actually makes a big point about whether or not the dinosaurs are actually dinosaurs. This always struck me as Michael Crichton protecting himself in case new information emerged. The idea of cross-contamination is something I think the books should have explored more. In the book, Wu actually talked with Hammond about altering the dinosaurs to make them easier to manage. It was a hugely important aspect of the story. The JP movies aren't very good, because they tend to lack giving proper context to things and scenes. Boiling down T-Rex to "HURRRRRRRRRR, ITS VISION IS BASED ON MOVEMENT!!!!!" (because Spielberg detests subtly and actually earning his scenes) is one of the movie's biggest sins.

[@Farzlepot]

"I only need to run faster than the other guy, so what if I convince the other guy not to run at all?!"

[@9ightdreamer]

The ultimate betrayal.

[@ClassifiedRanTom]

Grant: “Don’t move, she can’t see you if you don’t move.” Rexy: “Why are they just standing there not reacting… It’s intimidating…”

[@Echiewel]

She also just had a goat. This seems to be unintenional on the part of the film makers, but comparing to a human an about 50kg/110lbs goat would be a decent meal for a maybe 5 to 10 ton animal like that. There's some inedible parts to a goat, but that'd still be like one of us just having eaten about 300 grams / 0.7lbs of meat. If you've been getting regular meals in and you just ate that, it's just not really time to go hunting again. Then the humans start triggering her hunting instincts, and she ends up eating the lawyer. But that's not really like hunting to eat, that's more like having beer and snacks because you're having friends over and it feels like a good situation for beer and snacks. She's sort of provoked into hunting by people running and screaming and being prey-like. The scene to me feels like it is almost accidentally a really nice realistic depiction of predator behavior.

[@HiopX]

that's actually a thing. you can confuse an ambush predator that's trying to sneak up by walking towards it. It expects you to either run away or be defensive, not aggressive

[@HiopX]

@user-fc8xw4fi5v truly the scariest dinosaur alive. (Australians might disagree)

[@babalonkie]

The reality is... they could just play it off as Grant being wrong the Rexy just not being interested... She just ate and nothing is posing a threat. Like mentioned above, it would be clearly unintentional but a good franchise uses the unintentional to better the film later.

[@zombifiedpariah7392]

"Well damn. I can't eat these guys if they're just gonna stand there and let me do it. They might be suicidal. I would just feel bad now if I ate them."

[@evilmark443]

The thing in Jurassic Park about the T-Rex vision was poorly adapted from the original novel, in the novel there are other species that have the same issue which implies that it's a defect caused by the cloning procedure. Crichton made it clear in some of the dialog that the scientists really don't know how accurate their dinosaurs are, they are geneticists not paleontologists. The T-Rexs in the sequel novel also do not have the issue, probably due to them being from a newer batch.

[@jarlathquinn2628]

Other then the last part about a new is correct the T. rex is the same as the the first movie

[@chrisshook8471]

T-Rex are not blind they have the best vision in the animal kingdom.

[@evilmark443]

@@chrisshook8471 did you actually read anything I wrote? I know T-Rex wasn't blind, but the fact is the dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park franchise are not REAL dinosaurs even within their own continuity, they are ALL hybrid animals due to the cloning process used by Ingen. As I said the Jurassic Park novel presents the movement based vision as something affecting several different species (and book-Grant was surprised both times he witnessed it), not just Rexy (the full grown T-Rex in Jurassic Park), and unlike Rexy the two T-Rexs in the Lost World novel can see just fine. Taking these things into account it is likely that in the novels the vision issue was a defect caused by the fictional cloning procedure, and this plot point was poorly adapted for the movie as movie-Grant incorrectly states that it is an expected limitation.

[@Thurgosh_OG]

@@evilmark443 Whilst you make a good argument, it is the palaeontologist, Alan Grant, that tells everyone about the T-Rex's eyesight, so it is his 'expert' opinion that they can't see movement, even though a real expert (on this video) tells us this is wrong. Dr Grant wasn't told of eye defects in the book or film, so it's just an error by the author that sounded good at the time.

[@d2factotum]

@@Thurgosh_OG But he doesn't do that in the novel, as far as I know, and evilmark443 was pointing out that the issue is better presented in the novel as being a flaw in the cloning process rather than something that would be true of a real T-Rex.

[@Jennyfisch]

My biggest pet peeve about dinosaur films is them roaring at their prey before attacking, giving it time to run away. I feel very validated now that an actual expert feels the same way.

[@AHungryAllosaurus]

Tigers can stun their prey with a roar before attacking. If the T-Rex could roar, it would likely have the same effect on its prey.

[@Jennyfisch]

@@AHungryAllosaurus Yes, because the tiger is, of course, directly descended from the T-Rex... Come on, you just heard the actual expert in the video saying it's silly that they roar.

[@iamleoooo]

@@AHungryAllosaurus Tiger roars and stunts their prey? What kind of bullshit is this?

[@AHungryAllosaurus]

@@iamleoooo Infrasound, do you understand that?

[@eolsunder]

@@iamleoooo exactly what a silly comment. Anyone who has watched any sort of history channel videos or such, no where does a Tiger "roar" when attacking to "stun" their prey. lol what an idiot. They attack quietly and fast so the prey doesn't get away.

[@CartoonHero1986]

I LOVE that he pointed out that herbivores can be extremely dangerous and aggressive. I literally lived in the Rockies, we had brown and black bears, lynx and other small wild cats, wolves, and bunch of other top predator animals right there all over the forest outside our doors, and the two animals we had to watch out for most where Elk, and Bighorn Sheep since they were the most aggressive in terms unexpected encounters with them. Elks reer up and beat you with their front hooves it's enough to pummel you to death, and Bighorns charge and ram but they live in large herds and they team up if threatened by you getting too close to the heard. Most predators flee long before a human even sees them unless they have a reason to protect the territory you're both in, they are desperate for food and are now willing to stalk other animals they usually see as competing predators, or you're being dumb and blocking their escape route/trying to approach them which they see as you stalking and hunting them.

[@firegator6853]

that is so true because predators rely on their health to actually eat so one injury and they might not be able to hunt ever again or at least not hunt for long time so they HAVE to be more cautius, not saying injuries dont affect herbivores but at least carnivores are rare in comparison to herbivores, there is probably enough time for a herbivore to heal before a carnivore aims on eating it again but for carnivores its bad because they are already hungry when they do this so something stopping them to hunt for long time is really bad for their health

[@sorrenblitz805]

Living in south Carolina I had a deer try to gore my car while I was driving. Barely missed me.

[@princessjesstarca]

I’ve lived in CO, CA, and SC. Deer have always been the issue for me and my circles, but absolutely correct. Herbivores are much more likely to be dangerous as a built in self-preservation mechanism. Predatory animals that I’ve encountered are easily scared off as long as they aren’t starving or rabid.

[@CartoonHero1986]

@@princessjesstarca A line I will always remember in Jurassic Park (the book I don't think it's the movie) is when Ian Malcolm points out to everyone that preditories don't eat other or attack other animals it views as a predator, that predator has to learn at some point that humans are food before they will confidently attack it in nature. He's talking about the Raptors and their aggression towards people being a telling indication that those Raptors already knew humans where food through attacks or something else Ingen and Hammond were trying to keep quiet to get the green light on the park. Since herbivores instinctively don't view any animal as food ever and view all other unfamiliar animals as a possible threat they are hardwired to defend themselves much more violently than a predator would since it's required for their survival against predators they let get too close.

[@Chuck_EL]

@@firegator6853 i lived in the woods near a farm and i was able to sit and listen to music while black bears walked by about 50 feet away and if i got up the sow would stare to see if i was gonna approach which i never did and then she'd just walk away if a loud helicopter came by she and her cubs would run away,...racoons are the same i saw one on my trash once it just started at me and i walked towards it and it ran away...ive seen deers they usually stare for a long time and unless i got nuts or fruit they just run off

[@bubblezxallxaroundx]

i just know this man has been waiting his whole life for the platform to set things straight on dinosaurs lmao love his energy

[@kyachdistent1301]

Then he needs to do more. Ankylosaurus that can't crush a plexi-glass hamster ball with 2 brats in cos dumb script says "don't kill the kids, we don't do that." Excuse me, that dinosaur's a kid too! And he trumps you, brats!

[@rhys-hales]

@@kyachdistent1301Partially unrelated, but he does do more! If you're interested, he has a podcast called Terrible Lizards and its pretty interesting

[@alexmcguire-barnes3765]

He has a podcast with a comedian called Terrible Lizards. It's really good.

[@boss_sing_say]

@@alexmcguire-barnes3765 Seconded! one of my favorite podcasts

[@Oakshield2]

This is the most thorough expert you guys have had on the series yet. Every scene, he catches almost every single thing you can think of. Invite him on for a round two!

[@faceman9507]

He taught Evolution and Animal Plant Diversity lectures when I was at QMUL, he's a really cool guy and absolutely knows his stuff!

[@thedapperdibble3622]

Most of what he said was pretty damn good, but there was some weird/wrong information he stated :/

[@Oakshield2]

@@thedapperdibble3622 Such as? Also remember that this is on the fly. Depending on what, you could cut him some slack. And this seems like the kind of guy that if you proved something he said wrong, he'd issue a retraction.

[@thedapperdibble3622]

@@Oakshield2 ye ik lol, I'm not trying to hold anything against him, it's ridiculous to expect anyone to remember and know everything in their field of study.

[@MylotheZooLovingScientist]

@Oakshield - A user in this comment section put me on to this podcast he does with a comedian/historian called Terrible Lizards. Dave is most certainly one to correct himself and make retractions; he does several in their first few episodes. Seems like a good guy and great science communicator, if this video wasn’t enough evidence.

[@pixelapocrypha]

"I'm not going to answer who would win because that's about the most boring question you could ask about dinosaurs. Also, the T-rex would win." This was absolutely wonderful.

[@Julia-lk8jn]

I don't know, I read spoilers like that and I think "recompensating like whoa". Please, at least delete the last line. Or hide it under the "read more" bit.

[@loneponderer495]

Julia You shouldn't be looking at the comments of videos if you're worrying about spoilers. Comments are best used and added after you watch the video not only to avoid spoilers, but to keep from making a point they eventually make in the video. Also it's not much of a spoiler. The T-Rex is a pure land animal the Spinosarus was thought to spend most of it's time in the water (like a crocodile). So on land where the fight happens in the movie the T-Rex would be much more in it's element.

[@kirara2516]

@@Julia-lk8jn you're criticizing someone's comment? Really? About a video talking about a movie that 21 years old? That's your fault for looking at the comment section instead of focusing on the video.

[@lostnumbr]

but he still gave it an 8/10 because he likes the scene.

[@kirara2516]

@BELIEVE in JESUS In what way does this belong here? It doesn't. Telling others what to believe in is selfish and narrow-sighted. I'm not Christian, you don't need to know my religion, if I even have one. You don't have the right to know anyone's religion, nor push it onto others. kindly enjoy your religion with others who share your beliefs. Don't try to force it onto people. Thank you, and Blessed be.

[@MsMonas1]

This Paleontologist mentioned the very thing that annoys me most about dino films, even documentaries. Predators would not ROAR and then attack. I picture them quietly sneaking up like a heron fishing , and then wham, the fast kill. It would be terrifying to see this in a film, where the meat eater silently, quickly, comes out of nowhere without warning or time to escape.

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

They fairly recently recreated the vocalizations t-rex is thought to made. Due to the shape of their skull/ears, it's thought they didn't do open-mouth vocalizations at all, but rather very deep, bass growls and rumbles. If you haven't heard it I'd recommend checking it out. /watch?v=cpipaUfcnmM

[@MsMonas1]

@@BigMikeMcBastard I have heard it and believe it's true. It's similar to what elephants do for distance communication. Elephants far away can feel this sound resonating in the ground through their feet. This is realistic. Wish the movies, documentaries would catch up.

[@MsMonas1]

@@BigMikeMcBastard I saw this and believe it to be true

[@kyleellis1825]

Surprised predators do it. You sneak up on a bear in the woods, it will roar, kill you, and then eat you. The dinos are transitioning from humans as the masters, to being prey. The Trex knows humans can make it sleep with tranq darts (and probably hurt it), so it's confused and not sure if the people are prey/threats/or ignores.

[@Ledragonboi27]

Much Like the Indoraptor Did when Taking Out A Few Mercenaries

[@NeroCM]

I love how easy it is to debunk any animal only seeing movement: "It can only see movement" "Uh-uh... then how did it avoid slamming into every tree and every rock it met?"

[@wilverbal]

Dude, that's precisely why they're extinct! They all cracked their heads open! Kidding. Yeah, the he-can't-see-you-if-you-don't-move thing was just so transparently stupid, I never understood why they'd use it.

[@NeroCM]

@@wilverbalPersonally, I always remembered the book having Grant believing that they saw based on movement, only the be proven wrong when the T-rex hits him and throws him away, making him realise that it saw perfectly even though he was still and it was really dark. Every youtube video however keeps saying the book was the other way around: that Grant didn't know that and realised it because the T-rex didn't notice him when he was paralysed with fear. I guess if most booktubers say that, it must be what's written, but I could swear the book I read had it the other way around.

[@iamaidansmith7542]

I belive its more if its not moving it wouldnt be recognized as prey in the book it makes more sense than the movie the movie is still better tho

[@biancaalves2787]

in my mind I always thought that that meant that the t-rex could technically see you, but wouldn't attack you or consider you a prey.

[@michaelmendoza6557]

Well it did smash into a tree in the movie

[@mikegould6590]

His knowledge of exactly how a T-Rex's leg motion, toe flex, tail swing, bite strength...this is the kind of expert you need.

[@ledernierutopiste]

We know so much about the T-rex at this point.. So much focus is put on that single species it's crazy !

[@RoninXDarknight]

@@ledernierutopiste It's one of the most popular dinosaurs out there so it's no surprise that it's the one most researched.

[@iamagi]

He’s been studying this since he was 5

[@alienlife7754]

But how can he possibly know any of this for a fact? He can’t. He is guessing.

[@alienlife7754]

@@ledernierutopiste O. We THINK we know. But there is no way to ever know if we are right. I could guess that a T-Rex could speak english and there’s no way anyone could deny it factually because none of us have ever seen a real T-Rex. Just like this guy is guessing. He has no rock solid evidence to back anything up. Paleontology is like predicting weather. A bunch of guessing.

[@jasonvoorhees5180]

Didn’t expect to see Dave Hone, he’s a spectacular paleontologist in the field. I think I have 1-2 of his books on my shelf.

[@Robert53area]

I didnt either, but I also didn't have much to add to this because he did alot for us, i have three of his books. 2 of them are on the stego and kenta, very descriptive writing.

[@Vanastar]

So he's spectacular in the field, but how is he in the office or lecture hall?

[@Mimi-mq2wj]

@@Vanastar lol are you a student of his ?

[@Vanastar]

@@Mimi-mq2wj No, I was making a pun joke.

[@Vanastar]

@@Mimi-mq2wj No, I was making a pun joke.

[@isleofdead1337]

This dude was just so entertaining to watch, clearly cares about his job

[@RichardTaylor1800]

Oh man, being a paleontologist has to be one of the only jobs in existence where you get to say you're doing exactly what you wanted to as a kid, right up there with astronaut. Just get to study things that make you giddy, probably spend a good amount of time outdoors, and probably great for party conversation--I mean c'mon, who doesn't like to talk about dinosaurs?!

[@caswal]

This episode is based off his podcast episode about dinosaurs in films.

[@davidherbaugh3626]

His lectures are fascinating as well.

[@mclovin4974]

Ross Geller would've been better

[@nyalan8385]

I really wanted to be a paleontologist growing up but it never financially worked out, it's a very long and nowadays very expensive academic career with not much pay. Any paleontologist is extremely passionate about their job because you have to be in order to become one in the first place. I myself have just settled for being an amateur one

[@devongenereux1656]

how he brings existing animals in to explain possible behaviour is great because I've never ever considered that before

[@CHRB-nn6qp]

That's just how nature works. Sensationalised dinosaurs in media often forget to remind us that these were in fact animals and they only would've done what was necessary for their survival. The worst example, in my opinion, is dinosaurs having long-drawn out battles for no reason other than spectacle. The entire point of a hunt is to end it quickly so that the energy gained from the prey outweighs the energy spent to catch it. Like I mentioned, dinosaurs were once living creatures, and as a result they were constrained by the exact same limitations as modern animals. Therefore there are many similarities you can draw from 😊

[@grantm6933]

Definitely need more people with his energy; he was really entertaining and very informative.

[@tomvandongen8075]

You should also check out his podcast; terrible lizards

[@EricHamm]

A good positive energy while also ripping on movies. Probably fun at parties.

[@iszitube]

check out his Terrible Lizards podcast

[@hibernopithecus7500]

Go watch his talk on Tyrannosaurs at the Royal Institute. More of the same; entertaining and very informative.

[@iszitube]

@@hibernopithecus7500 he's got another RI lecture coming out in a few weeks about Spinosaurus too

[@RichO1701e]

This guy was absolutely hilarious in his criticisms, and 100% correct about JP3 at the end of the video. Very entertaining

[@iszitube]

you should check out his podcast Terrible Lizards

[@geraldfrost4710]

Damn straight! "Lots of dinosaurs, few annoying children." Gotta love scientific analysis!

[@fhlostonparaphrase]

@@iszitube Thanks for the tip!

[@Skycube100]

Yeah idk why but this isnt just in JP, Spielberg for some reasons likes/liked to add annoying children in some of his movies 😅

[@TalanWH]

Yeah we traded the kids in for Amanda Kirby In that movie. The kid in that movie was competent enough to live amongst dinosaurs. His mom was an idiot.

[@pastorgainz7230]

Love having a paleontologist on the Insider since dinosaurs are probably the most visually misrepresented animal in movies

[@Thesunscreen]

Pretty much every animal is highly misrepresented in movies, sorry to say - but hey reality

[@pastorgainz7230]

@@Thesunscreen or technically not reality lol

[@skycat04]

Our knowledge of them really changes by the day these last several years... you couldn't really expect someone from 20-30 years ago to know all the things we just recently discovered. Also, there are some liberties that filmmakers have to take, and when they do at least the finished product should be entertaining, and the first 3 JP movies are definitely entertaining.

[@pastorgainz7230]

@@skycat04 i am definitely willing to excuse the film makers i just think it would be so entertaining/interesting to see dinosaurs illustrated correctly or at the very least hilarious

[@Robert53area]

Don't watch Hollywood wood for anything accurate, because they can't even do guns properly.

[@Bobby_sprinkles]

Absolutely adore watching people so passionately talk about these things

[@Aussieshar]

This guys loves his job. I'm actually learning. I wanna see more of him. Bring him back.

[@cirujatucuman3363]

The has 2 books about dinosaurs and here in KZbin you can serch his name (David Hone) and the has videos about tyrannosaurus, about Spinosaurus and Baryonyx and dinosaur behavior. I really recommend you all those videos

[@borisahsmann7190]

He has a great podcast called Terrible Lizards where they talk about the physiology of a specific dinosaur every episode

[@cirujatucuman3363]

@@borisahsmann7190 where I can find that podcast?

[@aw04tn58]

Not only a true expert in the field, but also an exceptional science communicator; a rare combination. I hope we can have more videos featuring Dave Hone and others like him!

[@samphillips8188]

@@flynnlivescmd Wow, this is like you went down the rage bait troll checklist.

[@iszitube]

check out his Terrible Lizards podcast

[@hibernopithecus7500]

@@iszitube Ooo! Ooo! Their backlog is all over on iszitube 😜

[@royjacksonjr.4447]

I love his dinosaur comparisons. Being a lifelong dino-nerd, his "corrections" to the JP critters is fascinating to me, but one of his nit-,picks REALLY annoyed me. The guitar-string trick with the water glass was not only top-notch Speilbergian movie magic, but a FANTASTIC bit of suspense leading up to the reveal of the T-Rex!

[@MylotheZooLovingScientist]

@@iszitube Thanks so much for mentioning this! I've been thinking I needed more paleontology, zoology, biology podcasts in my life. Will check it out tomorrow for sure!

[@danielmalinen6337]

The funny thing about Jurassic Park is that the book already says that because they couldn't isolate intact dinosaur DNA from fossils and ambers, the park's geneticists used replacement DNA from frogs, birds and crocodiles to recreate genetically engineered dinosaurs. But the difference between the movie and the book is that in the book, the frog DNA is used as the marjor explanation for why the park’s dinosaurs can change their sex and why Rex can't see any motionless and static objects, but these explanations have been left out from the film. The book also tells that because park's dinosaurs are actually genetically engineered DNA chimeras, they also suffer from many genetic disorders as its result. I guess that the purpose of the author was to get the reader to think about the ethics of such genetic manipulation and its commercialization.

[@peytoncharles3946]

In the first film they do acknowledge the sex change is because of the frog dna but they never say anything about the movement part.

[@BeeBee-tj4lt]

Always loved Jurassic Park and have never actually read the book but I will now.

[@mousepariah3884]

@@peytoncharles3946 They did at least come back in World and freely admit NONE of the dinos are really accurate. It's my favorite bit of dialogue just because it covers so many inaccuracies AND condems the money makers for demanding things without thinking about the actual results. "Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth." - Dr. Wu

[@damnft8218]

First movie states that dinos are able to change sex because of frog genes…

[@xxelisexx3491]

Honestly did the author absolutely zero justice LMFAO

[@csbanki]

I'm surprised he didn't mention the fact that Iguanodons are actually larger than Carnotauruses.

[@geovonnie69]

Yeah but not by a whole lot. They also lived millions of years apart and on completely different sides of the world. And many hadrosaurs and iguanadontids were quite a big larger than the theropods that hunted them. The biggest hadrosaur was Shantungosaurus at nearly 60ft long and 16 metric tons, much bigger than the Tarbosaurus that lived alongside it.

[@csbanki]

@@geovonnie69 Yes, the fact that they lived in different location is also a good point.

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

Yeah that Carnotaurus in the movie seems to be t rex sized or even bigger, nothing like the slender cheetah-esk animal we know it was. Also the arms! Movies allways gets the Carnos arms wrong!

[@abigailblackstock4928]

Yeah, people like making prehistoric predators big, but seem to forget that most predators are actually smaller than their prey, otherwise it'd be hard to maintain the body size based on the food available. Especially when predators usually fail more often than succeed when hunting. Except for the dragonfly, but that's a different discussion.

[@LewisRJHope]

@@EmilForsberg_GRYBO The movie was originally going to use T.rex actually, but they decided that it was overused so switched to Carnotaurus~

[@MrGhostTheBigRoast]

Yoo he's right about elephants moving quietly. My grandfather worked in a tea farm in Assam, India and had first hand experience of elephants sneaking up on people. Apparently they have feet that double as shock absorbers or something. Terrifying to think about.

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

Spot on mr ghost, my dad used to work in edinburgh zoo when he was young and worked closely with an elephant, she used to creep on him all the time, luckily she knew him and was pretty playful, used to give her polos 🤣 Wild elephant are pretty terrifying if provoked though

[@arthurlofrano7021]

@@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 yeah, tried to poke an elephant before and i got smashed in the head and died. Not going to try this again

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

@@arthurlofrano7021 pmsfl jesus christ 😂😂 that was quite funny mate nice one 🙂

[@PhailRaptor]

I'd say their ability to hear low frequency sounds so much better than us contributes to this. Footsteps create sounds in the lower range, so if they are trying to be quiet, they can hear it much softer than we can.

[@ColoringKaria]

David Attenborough said that during the pandemic a lot of areas built fast growing decoy plants to keep the elephants out of the human crop I hope that helps with the sneaky elephants.

[@DanePavitt]

Fantastic stuff! I love how much he goes into the behaviour as well as physiology. So glad he brought up the 'gentle giants' trope as well. So many dinosaur movies & TV shows miss a trick by having the antagonist always be a big carnivore. Sure T rex is scary, but an angry Titanosaur would be a living natural disaster!

[@_Remorium]

It is why one of the episodes of Primal is so effective. The antagonist is a sauropod and both protagonists are pretty much completely helpless... Granted it is a horribly macabre episode in general, but it is still something to note.

[@xplicitmike]

An angry Titanosaur would be the scariest thing imaginable.

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

too bad he does't have a good character

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

@@daegnaxqelil2733 doesn't have a good character? Now what do you mean by that?

[@rixyz7013]

Imagine ark giga and ark titanosaur in real life

[@coogan5729]

Dave Hone is killing it. He's genuinely happy about the fact these animals are being portrayed and isn't critiquing the fun, obviously hollywood story. Even experts are only guessing about things like behavior. He is keeping us informed and giving us awesome creature analysis.

[@anthonythanghe4755]

I want to attend a lecture he is giving.

[@sethnicolette8874]

I’m on the fourth season of his podcast, “Terrible Lizards,” and was so excited to coma across this video. For anyone who wants to learn about dinosaurs his podcast is amazing.

[@katelynolszewski7891]

I love that he touched on the scene from King Kong where the dino already had a meal, and chased her anyways. They wouldn't do that. Protect their meal maybe, but not run after a small snack like that. Kind of like in Jurassic World where the IndoRex kills everything it comes across. It doesn't matter that it "wasn't socialized", I think that would make it even more reclusive to things it doesn't know. And attacking those full grown dinos would have been EXHAUSTING, and could be very dangerous each time. Unless it was desperate for food, a predator isn't going to continue to attack things its own size or larger just because.

[@mikoto7693]

That bothered me when I saw it too. It just wouldn’t bother hunting or chasing when not hungry. The other stupid part is the whole idiocy of the Indoraptor is that it couldn’t orchestrate that escape. How would it know about the infrared cameras and how to fool them? I also don’t think it could use its camouflage and infrared abilities all at once. It’s an animal, I don’t think it would be smart enough to trick the humans given it can’t understand what the camera is as a concept or what the tracker is for. On top of that it should have been drugged unconscious when implanted. All that aside even if they couldn’t detect it anyone with sense would just wait the few extra minutes to get the location tracker results. Also, why go in to investigate the enclosure anyway? You think it’s climbed out but the fact is you don’t know for sure. Entertaining the enclosure is trying to determine it’s still there or not. That’s a helluva gamble there. Finally why send humans in to investigate? Send a robot or drone instead. Finally only having the only way to get in through the door designed for the animal is stupid. It makes far more sense to build in a tiny doorway only for humans, complete with secure “airlock style” safety doors. Sooner or later humans will need to go inside for maintenance or to vet check the animal. It would have to be totally sedated before anyone would be let in. I could go on but I’ve made my point. Also the raptor trainer… yeah if you can’t reliably order the raptors to stand and wait upon command then they really aren’t responding well to training at all. But I’m not going to be too harsh on the first Jurassic Park movie because I enjoy the vast majority of it. The whole water ripples really helped set up the tension for the T-Rex arrival. Oh and a bonus round, there’s no way the Indoraptor would have random bits of the things like cuttlefish genes in it. Genetic engineering is no joke either and it’s very precise.and the scientist would pick the specific sequences for the purpose they need. There’s almost no way they could even add the infrared changing genes by accident

[@DinosaurNick]

Indo was a mess. There are even rumors it had human DNA mixed in. Also, she apparently killed her sibling. The movie stated she was way too intelligent and she hunted for sport/fun rather than food and left a trail of bodies in her wake. she was mentally unstable.

[@gharqad]

but the 'snack' is Naomi Watts. I would chase Naomi Watts no matter how big a dinner I'd just had.

[@beatricedorian9908]

In defense of the Indo, they heavily implied in the movie that the geneticists added human DNA to it and also literally said, "It's hunting for sport". I agree that a real animal wouldn't do that, but the Indo isn't a real animal to begin with. They were implying that the real monsters in all of the movies were the people who played God, not the animals. In terms of the Kong movie, I tend to agree with you. The only thing that could explain this behaviour (emphasized *could*) is if it has a high prey drive- or if its chase instincts kick in when something runs away from it. Kind of like how some dogs act when a squirrel runs away.

[@Bigboyfinn]

Yeah that just pushed the idea that dinosaurs were monster and killers but in reality these are just animals not monsters

[@LordBloodraven]

When two carnivores have overlapping territories, threat displays are more common than fights to the death. Both animals want to survive and there's no guarantee either would survive. Even if one animal won the fight, killing the other, the victor could still die from its wounds and subsequent infections.

[@kamion53]

I think you are correct when two carnivors are evenly matched in size and strenght. but many carnivors kill off the competition when they are bigger and stronger then the competition. Lions are notorious for killing the cubs of panthers, cheetah's, wild dogs and hyena's given the change.

[@firegator6853]

and here its even more useless because you have spinosaurus...spinosaurus evolved to eat fish exactly for the reason of competition it lives in and near water eating fish and the other out in the main land hunting herbivore dinosaurs any kind of interaction between them is useless unless one of the two finds the chance to snatch on the young of the other or something

[@sorrenblitz805]

@@kamion53 that is not for destroying competition, it's so the lion can absorb their power and become the ultimate predator.

[@ziskador]

@@kamion53 most carnivors kills cubs even their own specie if they're not their children, or at least not from the same pack

[@raptorguy6]

True

[@tomtripp5417]

I love the fact the land before time is more scientifically accurate than a large budget movie made 25 years later. That with the Dimetridons wings kind of shocked me and now I won’t be able to not notice

[@darkshat3077]

You mean Jurassic World?

[@tomtripp5417]

@@darkshat3077 yeah bro, the actual aerodynamics escaped me until this guy points out they actually make no sense 🤣

[@darkshat3077]

@@tomtripp5417 having a larger budget doesn’t matter. Jurassic world and land before time aim for different things.

[@GrandInfernoElite]

Liitle foot being more scientifically accurate was probably by accident. The animators probably just wanted to make him cuter looking since he was a newborn.

[@wolf310ii]

@@GrandInfernoElite Well, thats whats nature trying too, so that the newborn doesnt get eaten by its parents

[@lukewhatidid1735]

My thing with people dissecting Jurassic Dinosaurs is that they specifically explain in the films that the dinosaurs are designed with genomes borrowed from modern day reptiles, and even the scientist in the films gets into arguments about how the Dinosaurs would look very different back then, but that each park curator pushes them to make BIGGER, SCARIER, COOLER forms.

[@mnxs]

True, but then again that could be seen as a plot excuse for doing the exact same thing they are portraying in their characters. And the truth is that, even if the franchise half-heartedly explains that the dinos don't necessarily look realistic, their representation still serves as what most people think these animals were like (and I doubt most people even remembers or fully appreciates the in-lore explanations of unrealism). As such, it makes sense to point out the unrealism whenever we're treating the subject more seriously.

[@hubertdenise3100]

Tbf we see a lot of different versions of the same dinosaur species throughout the series, and in the books we know all the dinos of Nublar were versions up to 4.1.What this probably means is the dinosaurs were modified to look more like they wanted to, after the original few versions probably looked a lot more accurate.It’s also hinted with how the older models(versions) are described much more like their real versions like the dilophasaur.And, in the films, we see different versions of Tyrannosaurs, raptors, brachiosaurs, apatosaurs, ankylosaurs and stegosaurs, like how in Sorna there are the very colourful tiger striped velociraptors of the grass who are a lot less social and more like the first films raptors but more agressive and less intelligent, but in the 3rd film we see the quill feather raptors who are a lot more realistic and act much more like real animals complete with bird like calls and pack behaviour.They probably went through a lot of versions, changing them to look better or more pure depending on preference, so since T rexes all looked cool they didn’t modify them but did only choose the brown tyrannosaur to star since the brown one was easier to see then camouflage green colour of Sorna rexes.Meanwhile they modified the brachiosaurs from the first films greyish brown to the thirds more colourful and spiked back ones which were probably done by Wu to make more realistic dinosaurs.And of course ones like the Spinosaur were not designed to ever be shown or even properly made but instead as amalgam testing so they didn’t really care. Cause that’s probably why the older ones look more real generally while Jurassic parks are more fake, because Hammond was more about what was real(in films mainly) so would have wanted dinosaurs to be as real as possible looking, and Sorna was full of much more realistic dinosaurs because he wasn’t gonna add the colourful and more camouflaged ones yet, so his guests could see the first dinos easier.Jurassic world under Clair was only about profit, so accuracy mattered little to them, hence Wu’s rant to Simon Masrani because he could easily have made real dinosaurs but Masrani and everyone on the board didn’t want real, they wanted cooler dream like ones.

[@Croftice1]

@@hubertdenise3100 In the books, no dino is made on Isla Nublar, all park's dinos were made on Isla Sorna and shipped to Nublar. Sorna acted as a dinosaur creating factory, "Site-B", InGen's little secret. Nublar was just a exposition, a butique window. Not sure how it was in the movies, Spielberg had a tendency to sometimes change stuff here and there. In the first movie, we see a little raptor baby being born, so probably they were created on Nublar as well. But then what's the reason for Sorna's existence? Why's there a second island with dinosaurs and "long ago abandoned" buildings? As John Hammond said himself in the begining of The Lost World JP movie, when Malcolm visits him, "thank god for the second island". But what's the purpose of your second island, John? The way the first novel Jurassic Park ends, with dinos terminated and the whole Isla Nublar being nuked (quite different from the movie's end), Crichton was forced to come up with a sequel and it couldn't take place on the same island, so he made Isla Sorna, Site-B, the real dino factory and the plot of the book was about uncovering InGen's dirty secret. The movie ends differently. The park is closed, but dinos still live and the island is left intact. But since in the second book it all happens on another island and the second movie was again adaptation of the second book, they couldn't jsut so return to Isla Nublar and had to go with Isla Sorna. That's why you shouldn't change the ending of a movie based on a book. XD

[@edwardhuggins84]

@Alexandra Hefnerová incorrect they where dinosaurs made on isla nublar the embryos that Dennis stole and the lab would not be there if the was not made on isla nublar. Plus Michael Crichton never planned for a second book so site B did not exist intill he wrote the lost world and infact it's his only sequel he has done

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

See the problem with that is, they used the dna of frogs... which makes absolutley no sense, and if they definitelly wouldn't look like they do in the film if you'd have a dinosaur frog hybrid

[@tonyarichards5430]

He absolutely enjoyed doing this more than all of us put together. Love it.

[@movado0379]

We all enjoyed listening to him! He needs to do another one of these!

[@amandagfuller]

At the beginning he was excitedly informative, but by the end he was full blown geeking out. He is so much fun to watch!

[@cleverusername9369]

It never ceases to amaze me how really good archeologists, paleontologists, etc can glean so much information about long extinct creatures and their lives and behaviors from the smallest things. Just awesome.

[@partsparis]

Our film industry should reflect his wisdom

[@morongene]

It's all theory. No one has seen a living dinosaur.

[@dietotaku]

@@morongene it's data extrapolation. we observe animals that have xyz characteristics, we find fossil records displaying xy characteristics and we assume z about them.

[@morongene]

@@dietotaku ASSUME, aka a theory.

[@SpeedDaemon3]

@@morongene there is a really big difference between a guess and a educated guess. Like asking a child and a automotive designer to draw a car. :P

[@juhovuolinko6446]

16:10 "That's probably fatal" sums up how I saw the situation as a kid, and still to this day. Another paleontologist, Bob Bakker, famously said that one bite from a T-Rex, if positioned well, can kill any other dinosaur. I mean, this thing was hunting stuyff like Triceratops and Ankylosaurus, it couldn't afford to make a non-lethal bite and so its bite force was ona point where no matter where it bit down the receiving party is just done. And the "But it's T-Rex" is a perfect punch-line ending for that bit too XD

[@beatricedorian9908]

If you actually watch the scene, the t-rex didn't have a good grip on the spino's neck at all. The spino just shakes a bit and the rex loses its grip. It was also the juvenile rex from the second movie- big enough to stand a chance, but didn't pull through. They also covered up a lot of inaccuracies in the spino by implying that the geneticists in the movies were creating "monsters", not real dinosaurs. This is now a central theme in the new movies. The Mosasaurus is too big for a reason, the Dilophasaurus has a frill and poison for a reason, and the velociraptors on Isla Sorna varied in colours and shapes for a reason. The geneticists are creating "theme park monsters. Nothing more and nothing less". You can also argue that they do this for the sake of more shock value in movies, but it has been confirmed in the canon of JP and JW that the geneticists have mixed animal DNA from the very start. In a real fight with anatomically correct dinosaurs, an adult rex would destroy an adult spino (unless near deep water). But the fact that the geneticists in the movies literally mix and match and make creatures however they want debunks any accurate science people splurge. For all we know, the geneticists decided to make the spino in this movie into a war machine with extremely tough skin and bones 🤷‍♀️ There is literally no way of saying who would 100% win in this match up every time because of missing variables.

[@JohnyG29]

@@beatricedorian9908 It had its teeth in as far as they could go, so it had a good grip!

[@eldemente87]

@@beatricedorian9908 it would at least rip it off, like crocodiles do. Once they bite they won’t let go. I don’t think you could get off from a T-Rex once it bited you.

[@juhovuolinko6446]

@@beatricedorian9908 Yeah, I can sort of see that. The front teeth aren't fully dug in and this is a juvie rex. However, the rear teeth more than likely are fully dug in. And those are some really nasty teeth - they're essentially railroad spikes with serrated kitchen knife edges on either side cutting flesh. So not only is this bite going to probably compromise the spine by fracturing vertebrae and causing damage to the spinal cord leading to anything between numb extremities to cessation of all functions beneath the bite (as in, lungs stop, heart stops, limbs won't move...) but assuming you could get yourself free from a T-Rex's jaws clamping down on you that means those teeth are yanked out, and it's going to cause a catastrophic bleeding. The Spino would have lasted about as long as to that victorious roar, and then died to blood loss - even if it somehow managed to kill the Rex. Genetics, well yeah maybe so, this is the thing which JP series has used both before and after JP3. But it shouldn't be a "get out of jail free card" so to say. T-Rex could bite through the sides and even the back of an Ankylosaur if it had to, and go look the bone armour they had. An extra thick loose skin might delay the bite for a few seconds at most and maybe give the spino a chance to retalaite with those arms on the Rex's face, but that bite as was portrayed is still absolutely a GG.

[@Biscuits..]

The best part of the Jurassic Park books is when, in the sequel, a character dies because he believes the “T-Rex can’t see movement” theory. When Malcom is questioned about it, he responds that the T-rex has terrific eyesight, but they have no reason to kill unless they are threatened or hungry. Basically, the lawyer being eaten on the toilet saved Allan and the kids, not them standing still, because the T-rex no longer had the need to eat. It’s just pretty cool to see Crichton addressing this flaw, and the “he’s misinformed” line will always be of my favorites.

[@manapoints9329]

I love how he rates Dinosaur (2000). It's so cool to see someone appreciate that movie

[@MisterX867]

Yeah that's definitely in Disney's top 5 most underrated movies.

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

I'm glad they included "Land Before Time." I was worried that would get left out. Next I'd like to see an expert of some kind do "The Brave Little Toaster."

[@kenjutsukata1o1]

"Yeah, appliances are not sentient, let alone sapient. But fun movie, 8/10." I summed up the hypothetical video for you.

[@sullyg3841]

@@kenjutsukata1o1 “based on all my years of experience and exposure to such appliances, I can safely say they do not express emotions the way the film is depicting. I’ll give it a 7/10 for the similarity in steel” 🤣

[@polnochkoshmary]

I suggest the expert being a child psychologist and make them watch Worthless the whole way through...

[@Slopmaster]

@@polnochkoshmary or the blender scene

[@bearok89]

@@kenjutsukata1o1 "Cars dont sing before they are crushed but now im crying" 9/10

[@MadMusic26]

I always wondered about the whole “ah yes, let me abandon my large delicious meal for this tiny human.” I guess they were making them out to be blood thirsty monsters, but I always thought it was kind of silly behavior.

[@8bitbee148]

bothered the heck out of me how they’re treated like mindless killing monsters rather than just animals!

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

On the other hand, they did have large brains, that could compensate for it not being complicated. And, it is a safe assumption they had emotions complicated enough to motivate them, at least sometimes. It is possible that it might have been motivated by vindictiveness toward humans to go after them.

[@firegator6853]

@@TheNoiseySpectator i dont think size of the brain matters at all if it did stegosaurus would be dumb to the point where it would not function and its really too negative thing to push something that big and complex to evolve

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

@@firegator6853 Are you sure you are not changing the subject? We were talking about Tyrannodons and their family. Do stegosauri fit in with them, on this case?

[@firegator6853]

@@TheNoiseySpectator im not changing it because im explaining about brain size...so what if troodon brain is bigger? doesnt make it clever, and i said with the same logic of size = intellect an example about stegosaurus

[@luisozuna6456]

I’m glad he mentioned the stereotypical dinosaur roar. I never understood why dinos in every movie have to roar other than it looks cool. Predators don’t roar before catching their prey. There’s another video that created what the Trex probably sounded like, which is more like an alligator growl/bellowing. I personally would be more terrified if I heard that instead of a roar.

[@mowabb]

Jurassic park does this the least the T-Rex doesn’t make a sound when he attacks the gallinimus and at the end when he sneaks up on the raptor. The raptor also doesn’t make a sound when it sneaks up on Muldoon in the clever girl scene. Raptors are also quiet when they attack the ingen guys in the long grass scene in the lost world.

[@vladskiobi]

Yeah, they always roar like mammals, like a tiger or a bear or something.

[@ROYBGP]

They do it because it's cool.

[@bennettfender9927]

@@mowabbThe first 2 Jurassic Park films actually had their dinosaurs behave like animals.

[@BrookD.Artist]

To be fair thats actually not true. When wolves hunt bison for example, they arent the type of animal that is going to sneak up and ambush it like a lion. They run it to exhaustion with their incredible stamina, and they usually begin to pick out a target by spooking the herd. Wolves cant roar but if they could I don't see why they wouldn't for intimidation. So its a thing that they could do, and even write well into a movie. But it would just have to be situational and used with the right animals or dinosaurs.

[@AdalizMColon]

This man is the meme "I amuse myself" made manifest and I freaking love it. He is having so much fun. I love it when experts have fun and enjoy the breakdowns, makes the content that much enjoyable.

[@tornoutlaw]

"The land before time" has to be one of my earliest theater visits and probably what made me want to become a paleontologist (I didn't) when I was 4-5 years old.

[@vaporean_boylove.0w083]

I might of not have been born when the movie came out, but It did become a childhood film due to my mom having the VHS. Love Land Before Time so much.

[@vpoetic]

Land Before Time is one of my all time favorites.

[@brigidtheirish]

Yeah. I was annoyed at the story and the narrator, but I liked the dinosaurs and the animation.

[@Ahonya666]

My favourite movie when I was little

[@himynameis3664]

Is The land before time the one with "Little foot"?? If so I used to own a few on VHS when I was veeeryy young and used to watch nearly every weekend

[@floridasoldat]

It makes me happy people stay this passionate about prehistoric creatures all the way through adulthood. I love hearing from experts like this

[@augie1272]

The Dilophosaurus was a beast in the book and it was actually fully grown and didn’t have frills, it’s just that they wanted people to not get mixed up with the Dilophosaurus and Raptors

[@wilverbal]

They must've thought they had the dumbest audience ever. I guess that explains why they felt comfortable giving us this nonsense that T. rex can't see you if you hold still.

[@SparkleLuna77]

I love the ‘I refuse to say who would win in a fight …… but it’s T-Rex’ 🦖🤣. I know it’s probably boring but T-Rex will always be my favourite!🥰

[@luisozuna6456]

17:23 my favorite part. I just love hearing this guys admiration for Trex and knowing that the experts also hold Trex up very high as much as I do

[@LuckyBones77]

I do love that he’s like ‘it’s the least interesting thing to theorize about dinosaurs’ but still obviously thought about it enough to have an opinion lol

[@Jedtumble]

T. rex

[@indoraptor12345]

11 year old me was waiting to hear this confirmation.

[@tamonettX500]

I laughed out loud, I wasn't expecting an answer LOL

[@polarisnorth]

This guy is living my dream. I wanted to be a paleontologist so badly when I was a kid. Even before I saw Jurassic Park, I was already that kid who knew Everything About Dinosaurs. It didn't end up happening, but I still love a good dinosaur movie.

[@legitbeans9078]

Yeah me too. Though it's a shame there hasn't been a good Dino movie since JP and TLW

[@stijn4771]

You may like BBC'S Prehistoric Planet!

[@wheels3285]

This is absolutely one of the best rating videos you've produced. I learned a lot, it wasn't "dumbed down", and he's incredibly funny and engaging. Please do more really smart content like this. And bring him back.

[@ceral1079]

I like how he can suspend disbelief for the parts that are more movie nature than actual dinosaur physiology/behaviour. Like in the Land Before Our Time scene where Littlefoot tolls around or gets put on the back of the mother - it's not meant to be accurate in that moment, and instead he focuses on the parts that actually bear relevance. Great stuff.

[@Original_Syn]

The proportions of the T-Rex being not exactly correct actually has a pretty interesting reason. It’s because the foam used to make it’s skin even though it was originally made to the correct proportions wasn’t water proof and ended up absorbing a ton of rain water which caused the animatronic to swell so much that they actually had to add more heft to the digital model for the CG sequences so that the T-Rex wouldn’t be randomly gaining/losing massive amounts weight between scenes.

[@BluePsych89]

This was a delight to watch - hope to see more stuff from him. The expertise and just how much fun he's having makes it a 10/10 for me

[@IceSpoon]

He's very popular (for palaeontology standards lol) on Twitter and he has a few talkings and presentations here on KZbin as well. Dr. David Hone is quite a funny guy :)

[@stinkycat3137]

@@IceSpoon Howdy to a fellow David Hone enjoyer :)

[@toobasaurus23]

I was massively into dinosaurs as a kid. I was reading academic palaeontology books when I was 11. Full dino fanboy! When Jurassic Park came out in 1993 I had already read Michael Crichton's book, and the film was visually and cinematically brilliant. But so many factual flaws... so much so that my father (I was 13) told me to shut up and enjoy the film.

[@alethiamillner5603]

Novel was genuis

[@ziskador]

yea, I was one of those dinosaur nerds when I was a kid, watched every dinosaur documentary and every dinosaur book and my mother used to tell me they never existed just to make me nerd rage 😂

[@curious1053]

Your father was right.

[@dravenamor6052]

LOL 🤣 I feel ya. I was that guy too....still am really.

[@harlanlewis1999]

god that's so relatable.

[@smoopsiepoo166]

I want more biology experts on here. Such good stuff this guy was really interesting and fun to watch! I bet he had so much more to say that didn’t make the final cut and I would have loved to hear it.

[@maxleroux]

I like this guy. He makes mocking the many inaccuracies of the Jurassic Park movies fun. 🐱‍🐉

[@maxleroux]

@kshamwhizzle Well, I'm not because those horror movies were made by people just trying to make money. Dinosaurs are animals, not monsters. 🦖

[@ohsheee6600]

@@maxleroux the books and movies do depict them as animals many times. Like the parental instincts of the two rexes to look out for their child, or in the books it is explicitly stated that the raptors behave erratically because they grew up without adults showing them how to behave in a social environment. The books go into lots of detail with the animals, because what the dinosaurs in jurassic park really are, is genetically enginneres theme-park monsters that have little in common with the actual animals. That is why they are inaccurate.

[@x25violator]

@@ohsheee6600 well said! Dinosaurs had their chance. John Hammond patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a lunchbox.

[@DireNemesis]

@@maxleroux it is literally a fictional book series about the disasters man kind makes in the name of science

[@TyrannoKoenigsegg]

@@maxleroux literally what the entire point of the first movie was

[@Crazael]

8:00 To be fair, that goop isn't meant to kill, but to blind and disable, which it quite effectively does.

[@Zachj787]

Also spitting cobras inject venom with out puncturing with fangs specifically through eyes sockets, just like the jp dilo.

[@chazzabazzagazza4928]

Fun Fact, Steven Spielberg knew what velociraptors actually looked like, but preferred the look of deinonychus, which is what the velociraptors in the movie are based off of.

[@HerrFlachpfeife]

Also, in the first movie Grant digs up Velociraptors in Montana. There are no Velociraptor skeletons in North America, they only lived in Asia.

[@vando6679]

We all know it was supposed to be the Utah raptor guys. But they thought velociraptor sound scarier....which it does.

[@Echobase71]

I remember Utah raptor had just been discovered so they modified it. Utah raptor is even significantly bigger than these raptors.

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

@@Echobase71 yea i was wondering why there wasnt mention of it. Because utah is as big as these raptors

[@WhitePointerGaming]

It was the same story in Crichton's original novel. He did a lot of research and his raptors were also based off deinonychus in pretty much every way, but he chose to use the name velociraptor instead because it "sounded cooler". Same story with the film. Utahraptor was officially named during the filming of the first JP but the animals in the movie were not based on it at all, in fact they tried to swing it the other way around to say "we invented it, then they discovered it".

[@KaptenN]

A common theory is that the T-Rex, having recently eaten a goat and a lawyer, was simply more curious than hungry at the moment.

[@koriko88]

I think it seems pretty odd that these animals would automatically just be incredibly aggressive and violent all the time, particularly in areas they're unfamiliar with and don't consider to be their territory.

[@auditoryproductions1831]

Eh they may have been pretty aggressive. Look how aggressive geese are. Imagine being around a large, meat eating Goose, Rooster or Cassowary.

[@FoxtrotMouse]

@@auditoryproductions1831 If Cassowaries ever develop a taste for meat, send me to Mars.

[@Star-pl1xs]

@@FoxtrotMouse i have terrible news

[@FoxtrotMouse]

@@Star-pl1xs Fire up the Rocket, boys!

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

Probably because they are in unfamiliar territory that they're scared and thus aggressive. Ik that they put the raptors in a forest enclosure when they should be in the desert, perhaps that's causing some stress too. Or the scientists fucked em up.

[@captainteeko4579]

Yay I’m glad he looked at Dinosaur! I know ppl forget that film existed but it’s honestly one of my favorites for nostalgic reasons. I’m glad it got a 9/10 🤣

[@Morganhain]

yes same!! it was one of my favs when I was a kid!

[@smackingjack425awesome3]

Same here. I love that movie as a kid and I still do.

[@devmalani9168]

Same here as well. I remember I used to watch it every single day after I got back from school, and never got tired of it. It was just sad that Disney did not make a sequel to this masterpiece.

[@97dusk]

Honestly, that movie's pretty underrated imho. The plot may not be all that great, but the visuals were incredible. I absolutely adored it as a kid!

[@seanwhitehall4652]

It's underrated, and the scene in question is epic.

[@Phlegm_Thrower]

Bring him back!! He's one of the most entertaining experts while also being informative I've watched.

[@chani3644]

Dr. Dave Hone! My favorite paleontologist and pterosaur guy! He has a podcast called Terrible Lizards that I listen to all the time, love seeing him here.

[@marrier9999]

It was established as early as the writing of the original novel that the "velociraptors" were actually utahraptors. When Crichton figured out velociraptors were tiny he asked a Paleontologist acquaintance for advice. The answer was the much bigger utahraptor which was quite obscure at the time. Thus Crichton has been using utahraptor while continuing to call them velociraptor probably because he thought the name sounded cooler. And that's how one species has been misrepresented as another for over 30 years.

[@sorrenblitz805]

Deinonychus actually but yes. Utahraptor wasn't found until the movie was basically about to hit theaters. Michael Crichton had heard about Deinonychus though which was recent when he wrote the book. Thought Velociraptor sounded scarier.

[@adamnesico]

Seen a moern raptors list, the ones who ssem t fit the size of the raptors movies is dakotaraptor.

[@supermansdaddy7019]

Wasn't it Achillobator?

[@fabiank4378]

I believe at the time the book was written, Deinonychus was actually considired a velociraptor subspecies (Velociraptor Antihorrpus i believe). So technically calling a Deinonychus a velociraptor would be accurate at the time. and of course once implemented into the novel/movie world it can/should be related to that at least within the franchise

[@dirtyharry1881]

it is deinonychus.

[@grevoron]

"Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth." - Dr. Wu

[@dirtyharry1881]

That was a pretty big retcon, but also a wink-wink to the advances of science. It was also the only interesting thing in the abomination called "Jurassic World"

[@JeffMangumMagnum]

​@@dirtyharry1881 Retcon? Hardly. It might as well be a direct quote from the first book. Hammond had them modifying species from the start, including making them faster IRC, to match audience expectations. They're already Franken-dinosaurs from all the controls they've engineered into their biology. There never were any "dinosaurs" in Jurassic Park really... just another flea-circus selling imagination.

[@Native_Creation]

Probably what VFX artists said to their directors

[@citrusreality64]

@@dirtyharry1881 what do you mean big retcon? that exact scene from Jurassic World was adapted from the first novel of Jurassic Park. in the book wu says the exact thing only to Hammond instead of Simon masroni. also Jurassic World is good and so are the other 2 movies

[@godzillakingofthemonsters5812]

@@citrusreality64 No, he says that's what they wanted to make to appeal to the public, but Wu INSISTS that the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are as real as possible.

[@GAdmThrawn]

7:55 If I recall from the book, the Dilophosaurous was described as having a acid/toxic based venom that it spat out to its target's eyes to blind them before attacking. This technique was based off of the spitting cobra. In the book, Ned's final moments was through a slowly blurring and darkening vision as the toxic venom was searing his eyes. 12:48 I'm glad to see that someone else mentioned this as it has been something that I'm recently learning.

[@kylelyons1939]

I love the JP and JW movies but I really wish they used Utah Raptor instead of Velociraptor. I understand Velociraptor is the "cooler" name. But had they used Utah Raptor as the name for the Raptors they would be 100% correct (outside of any visual differences we may not know about)

[@GrandInfernoElite]

@@kylelyons1939 the utahraptor was discovered after the first movie came out. The velociraptor was probably just used for the name and was scaled up for the danger. Now it's just too iconic to switch out.

[@kylelyons1939]

@@GrandInfernoElite absolutely too iconic now. But hmm I didn't know Utah Raptor wasn't discovered yet at that point. I wasnt born till 1997 when the lost world released anyways.

[@TheDelta016]

Oh absolutely, Nedry's death was so much more graphic in the book to the point you felt a little bit sorry for him especially when they find his corpse later on

[@TheGreatWolfYT]

@@kylelyons1939 most people get it wrong. It's not Velociraptor mongoliensis they're showing in the movie, the small one with a long snout. It makes no sense that they would dig up a Mongolian dinosaur in Montana. It's Velociraptor antirrhopus they based them on, which was later reassigned Deinonychus antirrhopus. Indeed the ones in the movie are bigger than the real thing, but the blockynes and shape are about right for the time and the size much closer to the actual creature than to V. mongoliensis. They didn't change the name in the movies for continuity most likely.

[@drskellybones8049]

i’m so glad we have evidence that some dinosaurs were caring parents, they would’ve also been curious creatures and while we would never have been able to evolve like we did if they still existed it’s still sweet to think about. even millions of years ago they still had love

[@nighthunter54]

This man talks so passionate about the dinosaurs that you can see clearly he is doing his childhood dream job.

[@ΓρηγόρηςΠανούσης]

"today we are gonna look into some dinosaur AND pterosaur scenes" INSTANT RESPECT

[@Tronmalik]

The idea that predators stop mid-attack to roar and shake their heads clumsily around had always grinded my gears. Predators are quiet and methodical during the hunt. To me, a silent 10 ton killer stalking around is more terrifying.

[@kyleellis1825]

HAve you ever suprised a bear in the woods? Because at least 4 times me and my dog shocked a bear and got roared at, before I had to let my dog tree the bear and we could leave. They don't really roar at prey, you are right. They roar at things they aren't sure about/territory disputes.

[@thedarkapex5327]

As fictional as Godzilla is It's explained that Godzilla roars when hunting to display dominance

[@EspeonMistress00]

@@thedarkapex5327 Godzilla isn't even supposed to be a dinosaur right? Just a massive supernatural reptile

[@thedarkapex5327]

@@EspeonMistress00 He is a dinosaur He was only supernatural in one film in all the others he is an undiscovered species of dinosaurs that was mutated by radiation from the Hiroshima bomb or one of the atomic bomb tests in the pacific in the new movies he is a dinosaur that was mutated by the earth's natural radiation.

[@Chaotic42Kami]

As far as the Dilophosaurus scene goes, it's pretty different in the book. In the novel it is described as being around 10 feet tall, which does round up about 3 meters and change, and the poison spit is described as a foamy substance and, I believe it was by Moldoon, as a complex mixture of hemotoxic and abrasive compounds. And they just say it has a crest, no fan-like structure. Now, for the Raptors, I think they do mention that they are not the feathered type, more likely a Deinonychus or another subspecies of Velocirraptor, but it does get addressed by Dr. Grant. And, finally, for the T-Rex...in the novels they also address that, specifically. The adult T-Rex in the park did have poor eyesight, but it was because of the amphibian DNA that was used to fill in the gaps and it was a flaw in the specific animal, not in every member of the species. This is revealed in the sequel book, where a biologist gets his arm ripped off trying to pull this same stunt after getting that same quote about the brain being similar to a frog's. But Dr. Grant, the main-man himself, thought he was going to get eaten by Rexy after she caught him outside and without cover and was surprised that it couldn't see him if he stayed still.

[@D71219ONE]

I know it’s not super accurate, but man, the first Jurassic Park is such a good film.

[@thundercricket4634]

Fantastic movie, but don't go into it expecting to learn much of anything about dinosaurs.

[@maxonite]

It is not supposed to be accurate.

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

@@maxonite just because something isn't supposed to be accurate doesn't make it less inaccurate

[@yuyaricachimuel555]

@@thundercricket4634 unfortunately it seems a lot of people do this…

[@machexx1494]

@@thundercricket4634 That's just plain wrong. First of all, it was because of JP that dinosaurs became popular. Secondly, saying that all JP dinosaurs are innacurate is an exaggeration. Outside of the Dilo not having a frill and venom and the raptors being smaller and feathered, most designs are just fine. Also, the movie has a lot of accurate dinosaur behaviours outside of the Rex vision stuff

[@Gizur01]

Really Enjoyed Dave Hone, an expert who clearly was havign a great amount of fun whilst being highly entertaining. He needs more videos!

[@tomvandongen8075]

You should check out his podcast; terrible lizards

[@Gizur01]

@@tomvandongen8075 Thanks! I'll have a listen.

[@littlemaridee]

I love him. He's just a big dino geek and I could listen to him all day.

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

7:01 If I recall correctly, at the time that the Jurassic Park book was written it was believed that THAT dinosaur had a weak bite force. The author decided to let it have the poison spit to blind their targets because of this. I'm not sure why they made it smaller because in the book the dinosaur was actually really big, probably the size he's describing here.

[@lillemore_9721]

About the earth shaking: I live on peat soil. You can feel the vibration of a dog running next to you. With horses the vibration travels really far, especially when they go fast. In the JP movie the ground is jungle soil, which is also not very dry or solid. Even with the road and the fence in the ground I think you'd still feel a T-rex walking nearby.

[@natn41r]

You can feel the vibrations but you would not see water in a cup ripple.

[@sorrenblitz805]

@@natn41r it may shake a little but that's about it.

[@joshuarosen6242]

I also live in an area with peaty soil but vibrations don't travel far. Yes, you can feel a dog running past you but not when it's even a couple of metres away. It also depends on how lightly T Rex treaded. If you've ever been next to a walking elephant, it is very delicate in the way it walks - it doesn't stamp around. Perhaps T Rex was a stamper but if it was anything like an elephant, you'd only be able to feel it when it was very close indeed.

[@usayedd4409]

He said it would shake if it was running but not if it was walking. Its very hard to make earth shake regardless of soil by walking. especially if you are as slow and massive as a t rex

[@cathipalmer8217]

I taught at a school about a quarter of a mile from a freeway. We had a fence made of metal pales around our playground. I used to take the kids out there when we were learning about sound waves to feel the fence vibrate from the traffic.

[@Lord_Baphomet_]

I have watched EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE expert reviews… and I can’t say it loud enough, we need more. I have learned sooo much

[@ArlanKels]

It always amazes me how a lot of fiction utilizes "They can only see ", when no creature could function like that. Like the After Earth movie where the animals could only see pheromones yet somehow managed to navigate through vast environments.

[@StingBear]

I don't think stuff like that is meant as they literally can't see anything unless it's X, but more like they can't recognize you as prey..

[@AxelShurikin]

'Herbivores are not just peaceful gentle giants" FACTS!

[@garrettiverson6762]

I love how obviously enthusiastic and excited he is about his job and the opportunity to do a video like this!

[@James-zg2nl]

I really like that you repeatedly refer to them as animals, not just ‘dinosaurs’. I’ll do my best to make that distinction in my own mind.

[@KrivitskyM]

Not having "Walking with Dinosaurs" (a BBC TV series) in this video is a crime.

[@apeshitclothing]

That was/is a dope series

[@CaptainUncle1836]

Full of propaganda that was

[@olivera6743]

@@CaptainUncle1836 please elaborate? :)

[@drunkenrobot3976]

@@olivera6743 I too request some elaboration.

[@theepicjs5541]

Ayooooo BBC?

[@mikecobalt7005]

Always good to hear the real scientist's input. I still luv the franchise (most of the movies anyway) but knowing the facts is good too:). Good video.

[@kt-ty7gb]

Love his subtle hysterics. Such a good lecturer I hear. He could bring a bag of bones back to life. Bet much better than the snoraborasaureses I had back in my day.

[@xplicitmike]

Are you a paleontologist?

[@cleverusername9369]

He has some lectures about T-Rex here on KZbin, highly recommend, he's an excellent communicator and even in a lecture has the same air of barely contained enthusiasm

[@moaningpheromones]

snobalargearse . . . any kartrashian

[@Robert53area]

Trex also had one of the largest olfactory of any predator, the only thing that comes to close comparison is the California condor. So even if the seeing part wasn't true, he absolutely could have smelt them and knew exactly where they were at.

[@disturbedjp]

turkey vulture?

[@DarkheartedMKGames]

There's one paleontologist I heard saying it's kinda like Roland said rex ain't gonna hunt if it's not hungry so it could be as it's curious about this smell in front of it it "can't" see so is it probably like a curious dog just sniffing at something

[@vando6679]

Ya but the movie needed them to survive so. It wouldve been too short if the main characters got eaten right away.

[@GeoffCostanza]

Smelt? So the tyrannosaurus would've melted the humans and extracted precious metals from them? On the other hand, she probably would've smelled them.

[@justusb.plorer8773]

@@GeoffCostanza Haven't you heard? Tyrannosaurs extracted the iron from the blood of their prey to reinforce their teeth 🤣

[@mikoto7693]

Actually with the whole “don’t move, it can’t see us if we don’t move” thing that bothers me the most is the scent. Even if the T-Rex can’t see them it should have smelt them and to a lesser degree hear then.

[@xplicitmike]

T-Rex had at least twice the smelling power of a dog and could smell prey and even water from miles away!

[@Katepuzzilein]

It would have been better if they changed it to something like "Her attention is based on movement" or something like that. Like how in modern animals running away triggers prey drive and sudden movement could be seen as a threat

[@TheMerryWolf]

I tend to mentally "wave away" that scene--while tense--as "the rex just ate the lawyer, now she seems to be curious" and a later comment saying if they'd run it would have triggered her prey drive again.

[@dravenamor6052]

@@Katepuzzilein good way to look at it. I agree with you. Much better logic than what was depicted in the film.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

@@TheMerryWolf that’s actually how it was explained in the book.

[@Chillbro740]

9:16 in the novels they say it’s due to an error with the t rexes dna having segments of it being replaced with frog dna

[@gojiraapexpredator536]

It’s funny how sometimes he also judges it not just for its paleontological accuracy but also the scene it’s self in some occasions. He doesn’t take it in his head that it’s all about realism. It’s also based on entertainment and how it’s written.

[@yuyaricachimuel555]

Guess some of the scenes are just not realistic as we believe

[@fairguinevere666]

I love this video so much. He's passionate, goes into detail, and I learned a bit more about dinosaurs! I'd love to see more.

[@8-bitvibing814]

17:23 Best Part. Shows that even science is Team Rex.

[@KittyCat-ev3cj]

The raptor in Jurassic Park was based on a deinonychus but it was called velociraptor because it sounded cooler and more scary. Though, now it is just funny to me.

[@rahulbunkar7264]

Its so enchanting to see passionate experts talk/dissect things from a technical POV and give insights on things they spent years studying and mastering. Sort of like a quick Masterclass and a real entertaining one at that.

[@CrippledMerc]

From like 5 years old I wanted to be a paleontologist. Eventually my interest shifted to other things, but I still love dinosaurs. Great video, and I’m happy Land Before Time did so well! I did not expect that one to pop up. I loved those movies as a kid! RIP Ducky!

[@valerashan6050]

This was very interesting and insightful. Hope you have Dave back again for more ratings.

[@lovedandbeloved19]

Here's one thing I wanna point out about the dinosaurs from the Jurassic Park series (the original 3 I mean), the reason they can't see very well was from lysine deficiency. They purposefully made they unable to produce it in the books, and for some reason, failed to show that in the movie even though it's WHY they can only see movement.

[@kwido1225]

"Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth." -Dr.Henry Wu

[@RandomStuff-he7lu]

It was a nice touch.

[@kaitlynwatts3223]

"Dinosaurs lived 65 million years ago. What is left of them is fossilized in the rocks and it is in the rock that real scientists make real discoveries. Now what John Hammond and InGen did in Jurassic Park is create genetically engineered theme park monsters. Nothing more and nothing less" - Dr Alan Grant.

[@muic4880]

That's why it is senseless to call Jurassic Park dinosaurs unrealistic. Because it was never realistic in the first place and not intended to in the later installment due to entertainment and monetary reasons, both in the novel and in the movie plot.

[@RandomStuff-he7lu]

@@muic4880 It's unrealistic to call it Jurassic Park when most of the dinosaurs were from the Cretaceous.

[@lewd2851]

@@RandomStuff-he7lu It's stupid to call it unrealistic when it's just a name. Jurrasic World is a park too, not a 'world'.

[@damonthomas2975]

Awesome, informing, hilarious. This channel should always use this man for dinosaur subjects. No need for any other paleontologists.

[@firegator6853]

im glad this channel is famous and this video specifically since many people are seeing this as a result

[@emfournet]

This guy was tremendous! His information per second was phenomenal, I loved it! Bring him back.

[@ekuche8335]

Man this was good… crazy how smart people really are in their fields.