PALESTINIAN JEWS English Subtitles

A report by Nissim Mossek aired on Israeli Channel 1 on 2009
For more details see please: www.the-engagement.org

[@YehudaMizrahi]

Yes Palestinians are Ethnic Jews by blood but were converted to Islam and Arabized.

[@MA-qr6jj]

So if you actually think of it , it means real ethnic jews are being killed by ashkenazi mentality wannabe jewish

[@misinai]

Thank you for the appreciation. The reason for the suffering of humanity is that for many people they do not evolve if they do not suffer. Human intelligence evolution is the main puprpose of our being here, and since we did not evolved to the level where people will strive to evolve without suffering, we still all suffer. However, we, the Jews, had a bigger share of the suffering, since we were selected to evolve first and set up an example for others.

[@jaimy2690]

In the end we are all brothers and sisters from Africa. We are all human.

[@Theouterrim77]

From a Jew's point of view, it's a profoundly sad story. It's like the conversos of Spain who would go down to the river to pray like a Christian, make the cross over their chest, but then say a Jewish prayer.

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

There are hundreds of thousands of Spanish descendants living in the American southwest who are aware of their Jewish roots, I've watched many videos about them,

[@deborahbluhm8828]

Amazing video thank you! Did anything ever become of your quest?

[@misinai]

I am collecting more and mote evidence and supporters. In parallel the emerging situation here requires a paradime shift. So I belive that the mountain will come to.me quite soon.

[@misinai]

@@deborahbluhm8828 Can you give me details on to how to connect to Rudy?

[@deborahbluhm8828]

@@misinai I’ve passed your details on to him. Fingers crossed for you both.

[@deborahbluhm8828]

@@misinai Also let me know if nothing comes to anything with Rudy because there’s other people that I can pass your name on to as would love to see this project elevated in any way.

[@misinai]

@@deborahbluhm8828 thank yiou. I ALSO SENT HIM A MSG ON FACEBOOK

[@kareemsalessi]

8:00 "He looks Jewish; I mean, Really Jewish; He looks like my father"!!!

[@misinai]

We understand Torah better than any Christian. Our country was created as part of our star way before humans, let alone Chritians, existed here. We are here to renew and evolve the cosmos to new heights. So when we evolve we initially remember but later we innovate and only with this we contribute to the evolution of intelligence of the cosmos.

[@misinai]

This is clearer.

[@misinai]

The book is for both making a material and spiritual interpretations. There two go hand in hand for thsoe capable of undersatnding it. Several of the books, like genesys count the years in detail, but still leaves to interpretation when the period occur. In any case King David was not later than 1000 BC and the temple of Solomon few tens of years later. We do not learn the Book from christians but from rabbis that continue the teaching from more than 2000 years ago.These Rabbis hate Christians.

[@YehudaMizrahi]

Some "Palestinians" have some Saudi mix but it's relatively low.

[@misinai]

There is one case in Rammallah that there is a passport showing Jewish identity 2 generations ago. However, there is a fear to use it and we are trying to persuade them to use it to apply for citizenship

[@ZviJ1]

Which country issued the passport? Jordan? Or some other one (which?)

[@misinai]

I cannot remember after 11 years. However remembering who we sloke with there it may be USA.🎉🎉​@@ZviJ1

[@wassimdridi1026]

really we need science for peace like this ! not politicians who cares just their interests !!! damn i hate brothers fight

[@yoavpeled-h2c]

The Palestinian are mixed from jewish with Arabs from Saudi arabia. In same places they more jewish genetic and in same places they have more Arabs. In the area of South Hebron many of the Palestinian are actually jewish.

[@misinai]

This is a delicate matter. We know about several groups there which are Bai Isra`il, Including Arab el-Shibli, Tamimi, Kawasbah and the royal family. We know about others having hidden "peot" and knowing that they are of a Jewish origin.

[@EspritArkitekt]

which royal family?

[@kareemsalessi]

@@EspritArkitekt SaytanYahu-Crime-Family???

[@empanaditaenhebreo9002]

Msinai Tsvi do you know something abou the Najajhre tribe?

[@misinai]

I know their Jewish origin from yemen and some details. Following is my section on them from my book in Henbrew (translate it please to your prefered language: בנַחָלִין שמדרום מערב לירושלים, מתגוררת חמולת נַגַ'גְ'רָה, המונה 2,000 נפש, ויודעת על מקורה היהודי. לפי פרסום פלשתינאי, חמולת נג'ג'רה הגיעה מהעיר נג'רן שבתימן ויחד ענף גהתארבה שלה, היא מכילה משפחות רבות שרובן נוצריות. חלקן מתגוררות בבית ג'אלה ובבית לחם, ששוכנות די קרוב לנחלין. על פי הפרסום האמור החמולה כוללת את המשפחות הבאות: אבו עארב, אבו בתיה, אבו דוח, אבו רזל, אבו ג'בל, אבו רדינה, אבו זערור, אבו זֵייד (מרפיח), אל-חימה, אל-עלי, אל-קרוש, אישקר, חאטס, ג'קמאן (נוצרים מבית לחם שאחד מבניהם היה ראש העיר - סלח ג'ריס ג'קמן), חבש, חכים, חמשארי, אל-קובה אל-עול, אנוסטס, אסמר, בעביש, בחיה, ברבור, ביס, בחית, דביב, חנדל, חסן, חסונה, חאטי, חסבון (מוסלמים ממזרעה ונוצרים ממספר מקומות הנקראים חזבון), חוש, קראזה, כרכור, קאטה, חורשיד, מחיוב, מנסור, מסריה (מצריה), מאסו, מורקוס, נאסר (מדורה), נינו, קוואטימי, קוואטוש, קיירי, רחבני, סחורי, סלאם, סלטי, סמור, סנסור, סקווה,סבאי, שריים, תאצא, וואקא, זברון, זהרה, זנון, זרבול, זארי, וזרוק. (ראה: palestine-family.net/names-of-the-families-of-bethlehem/ )

[@empanaditaenhebreo9002]

@@misinai Thank you so much Msinai Tsvi , im a member of the Najajreh tribe , could you tell me more about the Jewish origin of that tribe please how do you know they are of Jewish origin and what happened to them to become "arabs" muslim and christians?

[@misinai]

@@empanaditaenhebreo9002 It did not happen only to them. Most oo the Jews here converted, and mainly they became Muslim, while most of the Muslims here are of a Jewsih origin. If you give me your emial address I shalll sne to you my book in Arabic on th Subject. The Christian story started earlier, not for the Najarah but the Najajrah Chritians prefered not to be Jewish and propbably werer ecouraged by Christians in their vicinity to convert to Christianity. The Muslim rulers were bothered by Jews that shall claim the\h country. Not by Christians. I met with very few peopole of the family and of Kanafish, both from from Nakhalin andn they told me about their Jwewish origin.

[@empanaditaenhebreo9002]

@@misinai Are the Najajrah tribe and the Najajreh the same tribe? + they were always Jewish but didnt want to follow judaism so they converted to christianity or they were already christian jews? Im from the Najajreh tribe and i always heard we were only arabs but i dont believe it because i found out we come from Najran Yemen

[@empanaditaenhebreo9002]

@@misinai sorry to ask this again but youtube keeps deleting my comments and i dont know how to contact you Tsvi Msinai

[@misinai]

I cannot comprehend.

[@misinai]

זה נמצא בשלוש השפות - עברית, אנגלית וערבית. ראה באתר ההתחברות המופנה מההסבר לוידאו זה

[@hannabard5455]

@Misinai: I think the way to battle extremism is to counter fanaticism, not to make a whole group of people change its' nationality and culture.

[@misinai]

+Hanna Bard Countering fanaticism is definitely right. But the question is how. I already described to you why the Arab culture has elements that lead in the 21 century to self destruction. I described to morality problem. The second problematic element is the language. I shall not detail here how, but the Arabic language is responsible for the ignorance, illiteracy and misery.; Hence the culture must be changed. To our Palestinian blood brothers we offer to join our culture and become culture brothers as well.It is not us that changed their nationality. it is the Arab imperialism. We were initially separated from them by European Imperialism. Now we offer them the best way to end the misery, by ending the results of all imperialism. What is fair for them is for them to decide. Not for you. The head of the united Arab party in Israel, Iman Udah, when he heard about our solution he reacted - it is a dream.

[@hannabard5455]

This is interesting, but I don't see how it matters. If Palestinians want to return to their Jewish roots, why not? I disagree with Misinai about the only solution would be that the Palestinians are reunited with the Jewish people. It wouldn't matter to me if they were, it should be every individual's choice. But the conflict isn't between Arabs and Jews, it's also between Israelis and Palestinians. There is a strong sense of Palestinian nationalism among most Palestinians, regardless of their heritage. I don't think it's fair to deny them the right to a Palestinian state. And I support the two-state solution. I probably always will.

[@misinai]

***** 1.. According to a poll 80% of Palestinians want to be part of Israel. A Palestinian state is the last thing they want. 2. A 2 states situation cannot happen, due to a Muslim demand not to agree to a non-Muslim control in an area that was controlled by Muslims in the past. Definitely nobody should be forced to return to his real identity.

[@hannabard5455]

Misinai Tsvi I respect your opinion, but I disagree. There are two nationalistic demands for independence in one area (Isrel and the West Bank and Gaza) and I think it's notvfaircyo demand thatveither Israelis or Palestinians give up their nationality. 80% of Israeli Palestinian or Arabs, you mean. They are already Israeli regardless of genetic roots. Most Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza want an independent state. Regarding the two-state solution there is an Islamic principle called maslaha which means thar Islamic laws can be lifted for "common good". According to extremist Israeli settlers, the whole land is Jewish. But there is the principle of Pikuach Nefesh that can be used in order to legitilimize a two-state solution. Religions can be interpreted in many ways.

[@user-un2sq7ee9b]

+Misinai Tsvi there is no poll showing 80% of Palestinians in the West Bank want to be part of Israel.

[@hannabard5455]

Exactly.

[@misinai]

+D Mayer There was such a poll taken among 4000 Palestinians in Judea & Samaria few years ago with that result/ The may hate everybody, but their politicians they hate the most. These crooks steal about 50% of all donations given to the PA (about 4 Billion Euros)

[@TRYCLOPS1]

Has it occurred to them that we're all brothers? Not because we're just descendants of the same tribe but because we're all descendants of the same group called humanity? Differences in religious beliefs, traditions, genetics are just superficial. We're all humans. I see good intentions here but good intentions in the wrong way. We shouldn't just respect the palestinians because they're descendants of jews but because they're fellow human beings just as Israelis... I wish I could help...

[@misinai]

That is right, but this did not prevent many many wars. Humanity is like a tree. In order to bring world peace we must get the small braches adjacent to each other live in peace. When this happens there will be peace in the entire tree. This is why we need the peace in our country where the two branches are fighting on the same land only becasue they do not know that they are both the sons of Jacob-Israel. This is why it is essential to deal with some trees before we can see the entire forest.

[@GoldmundoJohan]

FREEPAleSTINE!

[@misinai]

Free from the Mafia called Sulta

[@GoldmundoJohan]

@@misinai kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZrYlp-DrMyYkKc&ab_channel=Exosapiens

[@GoldmundoJohan]

@@misinai R u,Tsvi? Free the real cananeans . stop the supremacist jews!!Stop The HEROIN CIA mafia ! and the pirata british mafia and french yihadism mafia in sahel and siria....Please... Return to the real Moses judaism... Not this apartheid

[@c0smicbyte]

I believe that Palestinians will in time reunite with the rest of the House of Jacob. When the L-RD speaks to their heart there is nothing in the world that would hold them back from doing so. The same phenomenon is happening right now to Jews from all around the world doing aliyah. Things that men can not do is possible with G-d. The L-RD heals and brings shalom.

[@empanaditaenhebreo9002]

10 years later , you have me Pablo De Ceulaerde Giacoman a Palestinian Jew

[@Noblebird02]

What were their surnames

[@misinai]

Of whom?

[@Noblebird02]

@@misinai these characters. Writing a novel. Sympathetic Palestinian characters get arabised Hebrew surnames. The bad ones get Saudi and Yemeni tribal names

[@misinai]

very intereasting. I must@@Noblebird02check it through my knowldge.

[@Noblebird02]

@@misinai thankyou Mr Misinai. Please stay safe

[@ok1634]

The Bedouin Jew looks like Bob Dylan

[@misinai]

A Palestinian from Beit Fajar (near Gush Etsion) has Y DNA like Albert Einstein, may be interesting as well.

[@misinai]

We learnt a lot from the Genrmans and from many others where we stayed as refugees fro close to 2000 years. This plus surviving the suffring make those of us left as Jews, more talented and capable in average than any othre nation. However, our problem currently is tht politics as that currupt and stupid atht only the most stupid amiong us and dealing with it. Us being "special" is from the days taht the european did not know to read and write.

[@hannabard5455]

One doesn't have to be Arab in order to identify as Palestinian and want a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

[@misinai]

+Hanna Bard The issue is that most of them do not want such a state.

[@hannabard5455]

+Misinai Tsvi According to what poll? Is it fair to deny the majority of the Palestinians their Religion and nationality? How would you feel if someone told you to convert to Islam because "Islam is the first Religion" and "we are all brothers in Islam" and said that you shoukd move to Palestine? The genetics are not important. It's how people identify themselves that matters. It seems to me as you base your opinion on the same facts as Shlomo Sand.

[@misinai]

+Hanna I already answered about the poll, one made about 4 years ago by a Palestinian university over 4000 residents of Judea & Samaria. The result was that 80% preferred to be part of Israel. There was never a Palestinian nationality. We do not suggest any religious conversion.You are right about what matters, but the options should be on the table. Shlomo Zand did not find any fact. He has no experty in this matter. He is an expert in French cinema.

[@hannabard5455]

I respect your views and I think I understand your view perfectly well. You support the Israeli one-state solution but with this requirement: that the Muslim Palestinians reject their nationality as Palestinians and instead become Israeli citizens based on the fact that many of the Palestinians are of Jewish descent. I don't agree with you because I don't think it's fair to expect a whole group of people to change its' nationality (regardless of Religious beliefs). This recent poll shows that around half of Palestinians support the two-state solution, that means that the other half don't. So it's around fifty-fiffty support on both the Israeli and Palestinian side. Personally I support the two-state solution and there can be Arab Israelis and Jewish Palestinians on both sides; everyone just have to accept the borders. I don't believe that a two-state solution will be reality anytime soon, but neither do I think that an Israeli or a Palestinian one-state solution is fair.

[@hannabard5455]

The poll: www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Poll-finds-fading-support-for-two-state-solution-between-Israelis-Palestinians-407222

[@thegreatman8258]

I'm a Jew and I find it so sad to see 2 ethnic groups that are so close to each other be in conflict because of a far right ethno nationalist government. I think we should remember the Cyrus cylinder that 2500 years ago thought people about diversity and tolerance. These racist idiots who are the government of Israel have not mentally evolved enough to the understandings of the ancient times let alone the modern times. I hope one day people of all faiths can freely live without fascists who are ethnic cleansing innocent people in the Palestine region.

[@misinai]

You cannot blame any Jew after the Palestinian politicians do everything to kill Jews starting from 1920 till today. This includes the rehusal opf the Mufti to enabke the Nazis to deport akk European Jews to our land - which was the preferred option for Hitler. Furtheremore they have done everything to hide the true origin of the Palestinians from both sides and incite youngsters to become shahids/

[@thegreatman8258]

@@misinai If I'm wrong correct me. Our religion is about peace, honesty, morality, and forgiveness. We should not hold an entire nation that is our blood brother accountable for a handful of people's actions. I don't believe people like Netanyahu and other corrupt thieves are real Jews, if he is then why does he embezzle? Please don't consider these people who shoot at civilians as religious, they blame it on Hamas terrorists, even though the civilians had nothing to do with Hamas and very clearly got killed by Israel. Killing people is against the ten commandments. Hamas is anti Palestine, they kill their own young, are racist against themselves, and make an excuse for IDF to kill civilians, the government loves Hamas. If you think about it, Gaza is surrounded by Israel and MFO and it magically gets a constant supply of weapons, how did that get in? If Israel really thinks Gaza should not be in Hamas' hand, why don't they give a request to the UN to send troops to overthrow the terrorists? How would they justify their racism without Hamas? And also if by the will of God we unite with our Muslim brothers I believe we should call the great nation by its original Hebrew name Palestine (the holy land) Israel means to fight against God which is not nice. Our country is already a small desert, we will not be able to independently survive without west bank and gaza.

[@misinai]

@@thegreatman8258 There i senough to correct you. But you are right about the distiinction to be madel between the palestinain public an dteh corruppt politicuans which I am promoting, so far unsucessfully. However as long as theri youngstres are being educated to blame us to hate us an dto murder us, we have to kill them first. Hamas is definitely the biggest enemy of the Palestinians. they get their weapon and weapon production equipment as well qas required funduing, mainly from Iran. The UN is useless, hamas will ghide behind UN forces and it will make it more diffiocult to get rid of them. Youj ar ev3ery naive in this issue. palestione is not tghe original name. It was coined by Hadrian in order to disconnect us from our jhomeland. Our country is not deseret nut uyour cannot be more to the point about us needing Judea and Samaria. Gaza is alm ost of no importance, but we should not forget our blood brothers there and must save them form Hamas. It all wull happen in the Judgment day that is approaching us.

[@ZenatiOmar]

Mr Misinai you Carry a Menorah of Science and Truth People like you are the real peace makers Iam Palestinian Omani and because of You i did DNA test and Test showed iam 80 % Hebrew My Uncle look exact like Karl Marx My Other uncle look like Lion Trotsky and my uncle from mother did look Julius Martov They are bedouines in the Wahibs desserts of Oman and they trade in Frankincense Wallah you turn my world upside down because of you i leave the Arabian illusion Thank you❤ thank you❤ thank you❤ I wish you a long and blessed life

[@misinai]

Dear Omar. Thank you for your so important message. Zenati is a famous family here. I do not know much on Oman. You have khemyari tribes of Jewish origin.

[@ZenatiOmar]

@@misinai yes Himyarite tribes from Yemen and Oman bordes

[@hannabard5455]

Indeed ir's the Israelis and Palestinians who will decide but also it's the leaders decision. The two state solution is the most fair one and sometimes there is a need to compromise regardless of what the majority of the citizens think about that.

[@misinai]

+Hanna Bard Most of the Palestinian "leaders" are crook politicians. Our politicians - most of them, including Bibi, are incapable to handle the complexity of the reality. The 2 state's only practical meaning is a contineuos flipflop between A STATE OF SILENCE AND A STATER OF VIOLENCE.

[@hannabard5455]

If most Israelis and Palestinians did support a two-state solution, would you support it then? Is it only about what the majority of the Israelis and Palestinians think, that matters to you? Are not your own beliefs and opinions important as well? There have been polls that shows that around half of the Israeli population and half of the Palestinian population support two states. That fact didn't make you support it, if I'm not mistaken. I don't like neither Abbas nor Bibi. And regarding the Engagement: if most Israelis and most Palestinians including the leaders would support an Israeli or a Palestinian one-state solution, the there wouldn't be a problem, but now this isn't the case. Neither do I think that it's necessary to try to convince anyone of the "necessity" of an Israeli one-state solution. There are people who support an Israeli one-state solution regardless of the genetical heritage of the Palestinians. I disagree with thie view too, ven though I know very well that I personally can't affect the conflict, I would mourn the fact that there wouldn't be two states. Just like many Israelis and Palestinians would mourn the fact that there weren't an one-state soltion, in a scenario where a two-state solution became reality. So you and I have clearly different perspectives and views and opinions regarding the conflict. I guess let's leave this, it's interesting to discuss though. Respectfully, Hanna

[@misinai]

+Hanna Bard When people support the 2 states while no other peace solution is on the table, this has no meaning to our discussion. Definitely it show that people want peace.No argument. Any other conclusion is misleading. I also disagree with the one state for 2 people, meaning it is being discussed but not really on the table. About the rest we already exhausted this discussion. what will be selected in the future - Just you wait my fair lady.

[@hannabard5455]

I guess that we will wait and see what peace agreement that will be made - personally I don't believe that there will be any agreement, but we both support peace - in different ways though. All the best.

[@misinai]

@IbnDarwish We are speaking about a freedom fo religion. There ii not intenet on our side to froce any conversion, but to guaranty religious freedom.

[@misinai]

@TRYCLOPS1 There is no doubt that the problem is mainly political. Most of he population is not seriously religious. The conflict is mainly about nationality. This is what we are going to solve - one nation. About mixed settlement - this will exist, but based on united nationality.

[@SpellOnThem]

note that i make a diference between christians and mystic christians, the first are the ordinary people that has't reach the level to cross the river, the mystics are the few and poses a christianity knowledge that can be understood easyly by the real jews.

[@ryanmitchellshlomowallachj3527]

He already spent one million shekels

[@EspritArkitekt]

he said half a million in the video

[@misinai]

We are currently worse than the rest the world since our sins in the past plus us ignoring of our palestinian brothers caused us to suffer more than anybody else, except for our palestinian blood brothers that suffered and still suffer with us. many sientific institues from various countries participated in teh genetic studies. Israel is not a european creation. When Israel was created the Europeans still lived in caves and on trees.

[@misinai]

@TRYCLOPS1 1. Humanity is one big tree of groups. In order to unite humanity in peace we need to unite first the small branches that are close to each others. 2. The problem here is the demography. We have been minorities for 2000 years around the globe and deeply suffered. we did not come here to be a minority. This is the reason why we need most of the Palestinians to join us so there is no demographic problem.

[@misinai]

I agree that there are highly evolved Christians that have excellent understadning like Evangelist Father Patterson. But this has nothing to do with the creation of our physical land. Moreover, there are good reason to believe that he, and many IUs evangelists, like most Palestinians, is one of the original people of Israel, not Jewish today by religion.

[@misinai]

However, being "special" mean selected to suffer and serve as an example for others. If we are successful in this, also the others wil learn from our example and become themselves examples, and hence "special" as well. If we fail, we are not entitled to the title "special" even if we were selected for it. But we shall succeed, not with the current politicians.

[@un2here]

@misinai The Palestinians identify as Palestinians - it is the Jews that prefer to say "Arabs" ...

[@yoavpeled-h2c]

The Palestinian are genetic jews and little Arabs but they choose to be Muslim. They can return to be jews and we solve the conflict.

[@misinai]

@jonny7748 You are right, but to pull religion out of our governmnet you need to unify the non-religious parties, . This unification is improssible as long as there is no just and stable peace here. This is why the engagement peace plan is needed.

[@TeachESL]

Now we just have to enable these people to reclaim their status as Jews!

[@SpellOnThem]

believe me when i said that the masters of interpretation of torah both spiritualy and material are the mystic christians. in fact the Book N.T is charged with a very high esoteric knowledge, when i said the europeans create the physical land of israel(i suposed it is where you live now in this world) i am no kidding, because they know very well the conection between the material and spiritual meaning of O.T and N.T. :apart: About the suffering, it is not about evolving it is about remembering.

[@misinai]

@2011rapanui2011 All theses prolelms must be solved before any serious i8mprovement can take place. The probelm is cultirall and has to do with the problems of the Arab language.

[@misinai]

@jonny7748 This is all correct. But we, as Jews, have a very rich experience of being victims to foreign majorities. So we do not want too many foreigners among us to risk our control of our state and destiny. Germany was once the center of Jewish emancipation and flourishing non-religious culture. Until the Nazis. So before humanity gets over mental barriers we, in difference from most of the world, have to make sure we remain alive. This is why we need the engagement.

[@thegreatman8258]

I am Jewish and I guarantee you that is nonsense, the Persians had an administration 2500 years ago that was much more advanced than the Israeli administration today. They did not kill children, did not apartheid, treated people equally, were not racist, were not an ethno-state, valued diversity, did not bother religious minorities, did not assimilate minorities, and Jews had more liberties in that time. For example, no mandatory conscription, no bans on criticizing the government, no segregation walls, etc. Many characteristics of Judaism is derived from Zoroastrianism, like monotheism and universalism that first time came to the Tanakh (Isaiah 2) after Persian rule, Yahweh changed from a tribal God to the God of all people and the universe. If the Jews that came to Palestine after ww2 had come in peace we would not have ended up like this. On another comment I saw that you have made multiple false claims about Arabs. You say that their culture is self destructive? My Jewish grandfather lived in Haifa in peace with Arabs until European Jews decided a piece of Middle East is theirs and kicked his neighbours out of their homes and when he protested it, they broke his hand and burned down his house. That is self destructive culture. He has a saying that ancestry doesn't mean anything, all of us came from Africa, but all of us aren't Africans. The culture of only counting Jews as people with property rights because maybe their ancestors might have had (they probably didn't because feudalism) 2,000 years ago is absurd. You have said that Arabic is a bad language, if so then Hebrew is also bad because they are both Semitic languages and are closely related. You have said Arabs are imperialists, Israel has 5 neighbours, has invaded all 5, and is currently occupying 2. Assimilating Arabs because their culture is "bad", reminds me of the policies of a German guy in the mid 20th century, I wonder who? The Palestinian called assimilation a dream, he said that because when you're in a dream everything makes sense, but when you wake up you tell yourself "well that was wierd". Israel is doing all sorts of things for the land of milk and honey; a small piece of a barren desert, one of the worst places for beekeeping and shepherding. The reason that the Persian Empire still survives today is tolerance and diversity in it's culture. But if you look at the history of ethno-states, they are all eventually doomed to fail.

[@misinai]

@@thegreatman8258 There is no apparthide here and one never exixsted here . It is a complete lie. The walls were buiilt to protect us from the naive terrorists incited by their maga-crook politicinas,. The Mufti Hussaini not only led ignorant mob to massacre Jews in 1920, 1929 and 1936-1939, caused Hitler to select extermimnation of the Jews instead of sending them here, but also icited Egyptian mob wioth his fgried el-Bana (MB) to press King Farooque to start the war in 1948 despite the objection of his military senior officers. After the war the refugees in Cairo blamed the Mufti for the Nakba and twice tried to assasinate him. in 1948 the Arab militaries invaded our country to throw us to the sea. When we invaded theirs, it was most of the time reaction to their aggression, mainly by terror. Do you recommend us to always sit atill and wait to be invaded? Is there no point to show them that they can also lose, not only try to win again and again? Many Palestinains are good people. But many of their Politicians are corrupt and again the Arab culture, having many good sides, includes a horrible morality that not all of them follow. If you read hebrew I can send to you what I wrote in detail about this morality.

[@RubenCompaneetz201063]

שלום היתכן וראיתי שיש גם עם כתוביות בספרדית??? אם יש האם ניתן לקבל את הלינק??? בתודה רבה מראש - ראובן

[@misinai]

לצערי אין. בברזיל הכינו כתוביות בפורטוגזית.

[@RubenCompaneetz201063]

@@misinai שמח לבשר לך שיש kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmLKfa2fiNh8m5Y

[@misinai]

@@RubenCompaneetz201063אתה צודק. שכחתי. כעת נתקלתי בזה ובאתי להודיע לך וראיתי שכבר מצאת.

[@misinai]

Is the ulter in mount Aibal (the mount of curse) found by Adam Zartal, formed exactly according to the measures describes in the Torah, more than 1000 years before Jesus, just another Christian invention. Or was it Jewish creation in the territory of the tribe of Ephrayim? Are Palestinains carring family name of Cohen or Levi (in Arabic Lafi) again a Christian invention? I am sorry, but you are very remote from many facts that their traces can be still found today.

[@misinai]

It is clear that you are not a Christian. Definitly there are Christian scholars that excellently know our writings. But is does not mean anything.

[@misinai]

As thyings are going on today, you may be very right. But as things are going todayCIA and MI5 may destroy themselves within few years. Anyhow I do not see extreme Islam being ended earlier.

[@SpellOnThem]

Misinai Tsvi how do you relate the mystical meaning of "israel" to this material land called israel? haven't you realized that this thing of "jews" is a creation of mystical christianity? havent you realized that that land called israel is nothing but a requirement for christians. This thing of genetic studies is helping to the polarization needed for the dialectical course.

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

How bizarre

[@TRYCLOPS1]

It seems to me that this is a conflict of religions. Why can't they just accept each other's differences and concentrate on their similarities? Why don't they build settlements with jewish and islamic settlers, where they both can coexist? I'm sure they can live together in peace because that's how they live in NYC and other parts of the world. The conflict there is all political and people the victims. Peace.

[@misinai]

@ 2011rapanui2011 Dear rapanui. Money is not the solution and thewest is colapsing becasue fo lack of money. The Palestinian shall unite with ItheJews as they are one people. They do not belong to teh Arabs and they Arabness is only cultural- like Jews coming from Russia are not Russian in Nationality but in culture only. The probelem of teh Arab world is not money, not democracy and not leaders, but Ignorance, iiliteracy and lack of accuracy.

[@misinai]

They do no need aliya as they are living here. Those that do not have citiznship can ask for it based on the law of return. However, the law of return accepts only those that two generations ago still held the Jewish religion, and this is true only for a small minority. In addition there is a fear of admitting plus unwillingness to accept by our government. So they will be risking their lives for nothing.

[@misinai]

@IbnDarwish Not so many Palestinians were christians. Most of them were Jews and others other Samaritans/ Palestinains did not embrace Islam - they wreer froce to convert. See The decree by Khaliph El Haken Be'imer Illa - year 1012. Nobody says that they are not Muslims. We say there ar enot really Arabs. Palestine and Israel is the same Geography.

[@misinai]

@benleftun You are not another People. Yuo ar eoen with us. We are not colozisers. We are refugees for 2000 years fo suffering taht returned home. We are not saving anyone from his identity, just removing false identity. What is stolen is not land but identity, stolen by the Arab imperialists.THis land is not flreign to us and th eentire Arab world is a disaster today.

[@rexluscus]

Is it even possible to deprogram people whose ancestors had to make pragmatic choices for survival? It is psychologically hard; the cognitive dissonance barrier is high. Latent resentment towards those whose ancestors kept their culture, as a mechanism to cope with inferiority complex? Everywhere you look it is the same story: Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Maghreb. The only way out I see is education, trade, enlightenment to reduce the mindset entrenchment. More narrowly, we need a way to bring this information in a more psychologically digestible way.

[@misinai]

Your are mainly right about the needed education. The trade is there. However, the main point is that the same way that many are programmed the wrong direction, there are many that we know, including some of the top heads of the PLO, that know the truth and it is difficult to deprogram them to the lies. However, these heads do not follow the truth only since the current donnations form the West enable them embezzle each year about 2B$. The non-embezzling ones share our dreams.

[@misinai]

כל הפלשתינאים וערביי ישראל הנוצרים הם ממקור יהודי או ישראלי, אבל הרוב ממקור יהודי. מדובר בעיקר בבני הכנסיות היוונית-קתולית והאורתודוקסית. אבל יש בארץ מעטים כאלה שהגיעו ממקומות אחרים ויושבים בבית ג'אלה או משרתים בכנסיות שונות והם דוברי ערבית שאינם במקור מעם ישראל. כמו כן יש בג'יש מרונים שחלקם, כמו משפחת השול - ממקור יהודי והיתר ממקור ארמי-פניקי. משפחת ג'שאן מכפר מג'אר ומירדן היא במקור מעם ישראל אבל לא מהיהודים אלא מאחד משבטי ישראל האחרים שחיו בעבר באזור מדינה. אפשרי שגם בחיפה נשארו מעט מרונים.

[@misinai]

Are those Palestinians speaking about their Jewish roots a creation of Christianity as well? Is genetics a Christian creation? The Palestinian family of Bar Kochva - Are they another Christian invention? The Jews from Iraq and Morroco, are they also a Christian invention? (as the old testemant is according to you).

[@misinai]

What misticism? You are not familiar with Jewish-Hebrew writing for the last 3800 years, starting with patriyarch Abraham. Nobody on our side needs any Christian mysticism, except for Palestiinian and their supporters, in their attempt to deprive us of our rights to the land. Before coming with any claims of this manner you must be familiar with Jewish-Hebrew writings.

[@misinai]

@IbnDarwish We are not speaking about God. We are speaking about peace. The devine guidince to the Jews and to the Palestinians is to bring back the people that were froced to covert against the rules of Islam. To bring them back not from their current religion, even that it was imposed on them against the rules of Islam, but from thier fasle Arab nationality.

[@RaffaelloLorenzusSayde]

Are these the Jews that were and are living in Palestine before Israel was revived/recreated?

[@misinai]

They stopped being Jewish but this does not make them Arabs. They still belong to they people of Israel. Those that remained fully Jewish were only few tens of thousands.

[@RaffaelloLorenzusSayde]

@@misinai wow, I feel pity for the Jews who converted and didn't reconvert, most likely they were forced to convert. I am from Lebanon, and I know that the Ottoman's forced a few of my great grandfathers/mothers to convert to Islam and change their names to Islamic ones. However, they later reconverted in secrete back to Christianity including their names when the Ottomans left. Also, they practised Christianity in secret.

[@misinai]

@@RaffaelloLorenzusSayde Unlike Christianity, Judaism in its current state is not something easy to follow. But you are rightm we should pity them. We shall offer them to leave Islam and then do what they want - secular or traditional Jews.

[@misinai]

@benleftun There is no occupation by Israel . The only occupation that remained is the occupation of the Palestinians' identity by the Arabs that we have to put an end to, by returning the Palestinians to their real identity.It is the Palestinians political and terror leadership that villainize all the Jews, not only the those that were refugees in Europe. Villanizing started with Haj Amin El-Huseini that incited ignorant Palestinians against their jewish brothers and still continues today..

[@berly9397]

The genetic tests do not make sense. There are 2 type of Palestinians; the Jewish ones who converted and those who moved to Israel from Arab countries. When you do genetic tests, which one are you testing?

[@misinai]

Most of those that moved to the country were either originally Jewish, or left as reugees in 1948, 1967 and migrated following the 1973 war. Genetic tests on the Y chromosome showed that 82% of Palestinians are genetically very close to the Jews.

[@Lagolop]

So the question remains, if this is all true, then why don;t these "palis" make aliya?

[@Allan98rocker]

@YehudaMizrahi Or just greeks and romans but converted to islam and got arab blood later.

[@SpellOnThem]

continuation. And please you are talking in terms of time (1000 years B.C, when the europeans live in caves israel already existed etc etc). the Book is not for making a material interpretation, and the Book is no in terms of time. the land of Israel is a spiritual term not a physical thing of this world. PLEASE. thats why i say the materialistic interpretation of torah is nesesary for the mystic christians since the world as we see is an indicator of our level of the real interpretation. peace.

[@withreed7224]

İf the Muslim rulers forced them to convert İslam, remember they will be no any single Jewish nor Christian during the Caliphate era

[@misinai]

Most of Christian majority left.THese were all gentiles. Most Christians of th erproplr of Israel converted. Most of the Jews appeared as if they converted, but at home continued to practice Judaism. A minority of both groups lived in small mountain villages where the authoritires never reached. But the vast majority became officially Muslim.

[@RaffaelloLorenzusSayde]

@@misinai did the Jews who were forcefully converted to Islam by Ottoman's reconvert back to Judaism?

[@misinai]

@@RaffaelloLorenzusSaydeThis will happen with part of them. But what we want is for them to considering themslves ASranbs and returmn to the people of Israel including studying quite extensively our culture.

[@SpellOnThem]

do not let the mental image of th word christianity disturb, for th world gets a wrong image when hear that word, For the moment you make separation of individuals wich is ok. That cosmic evolution you talk is the most mystical christian concept wich is hold by few and not teached in the so called christian world.Why don't they teach the real christianity? believe me, bcause it is for the moment for the real israel, but after the night as they say the universe will be a cosmic Sacramental bread

[@misinai]

I am sorry but I cannot even understand you. Our bible is an old creation, much before Christianity. We created initial Christianity, in teh tiem that we were still united with the Palestinians, and not vice versa. You claims do not have any base. It may be a Palestinian propaganda to deprive us of our homeland, made in response for Israeli propaganda to deprive the Palestinains their same homeland. Both propagandas are wrong. It is the same homeland for the same people, just different cultures.

[@user-un2sq7ee9b]

This geneticist doesn't know what the hell she is talking about. Many peoples in the Middle East, North Africa, and southeastern Europe possess haplotype J-M267. It doesn't mean they are all descended from Jewish converts to Islam or Christianity, and it doesn't mean they are all descended from Aaron. It means that there is a common gene within the region, that many Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews also possess, due to their Middle Eastern ancestry. Its absurd to instead believe all these people are descended from Jews.

[@misinai]

+D Mayer 1. The Cohens are descendants of the tribe of Levi. Part of the lived among the Jews and are considered Jewish. 2/ The size of the People of Israel 2000 yeas ago was about 31M or 23% of the world population. Based on this info, one family in the time of Exodus shall count today many people, that like others from the people of Israel were spread around the globe. J in general belongs to the patriarch Abraham, whose known descendants were the peoples of Israel, Arabs who are descendants of Ishmael and part of the Druze who are descendants of some tribes of Israel and of Midyan, the son of Abraham and Ktura.

[@user-un2sq7ee9b]

+Misinai Tsvi Abraham is a mythical figure that probably never existed. Just like Ishmael and Isaac. The origin of J-M267 is 4,000 years before Aaron supposedly existed. This is about science, not fantasy. J-M267 is not evidence of Jewish ancestry, only ancestry from the Middle East, as many folks have this haplotype but have no connection to Jewish people. Its absurd to say that EVERYONE who has this haplotype, has Jewish ancestors. Sorry.

[@misinai]

+D Mayer I already answered this, but I do not see the answer now. By existing science it looks that you are right. However currently accepted science is superficial, leaving many open questions. One example is the question why the Quantum Mechanics work? To your surprise the real answer to this open question will show that the 4000 years before Ahron is only one version of the truth and furthermore it is actually false - a combination of 2 contradicting truths. I shall not get here to more details. There many. If you are interested we can speak about it. I have everything written but at this stage only in Hebrew. Let me know please if you are interested.

[@lookman-2844]

It is also true that Askenazi Jews lack Jewish maternal DNA. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXXEcmulqqehbtE

[@lookman-2844]

Palestinians if they are Jews do not have to leave Christianity as there is enough prophetic evidence that Christianity and Islam are fulfilling Jewish tradition. The term the meek shall inherit the land seems true and many Ebonites and Nazarene Christians were monotheist and though Jesus a prophet not God. The reason Palestinians became at the time of the crusades was the Crusaders did not distinguish between local Orthodox Christians and Muslims. It can be argued that Herod's Temple in the City of David was the third temple. Similar events occurred in Spain where Sephardic Jews and Muslims were forced at the pain of death to convert to Catholicism. There are around estimated to be 100 million Cripto-Jews today.

[@sleeexs]

Bowing down to a stone or praying to a fictional man is idol worship

[@lookman-2844]

@@sleeexs For those Jews who were poor and did not leave Palestine they were forced at pain of death to convert to Christianity along with pagans by Emperor Theodosius. If you mean Christians who are idol worshipers, then you need to refer to the Qur'an. This tells the People of the Book to return to the pristine teachings of Judaism and Jesus. Jesus was a Jew and he told his followers to keep the Hebrew Law. That means be Jews (or Samaritans). James, Jesus's brother and successor told Paul and Stephen to keep THE LAW. So, Christians are supposed to follow Judaism. Jesus also told a Canaanite woman that his teachings were not for her people (Gentiles). It is not how events worked out, but Christians have been prepared by God to accept Islam ot Judaism depending on your beliefs. If you want to know more about challenging Christians follow Rabbi Tovia Singer

[@sleeexs]

@@lookman-2844 He didnt exist, you worship a fictional man

[@lookman-2844]

@@sleeexs I do not worship Jesus that is for Christians, but there are historical documents describing someone of his description going to northern west India to preach to the Lost tribes. I have relatives with Sephardic Jewish DNA from Afghanistan..

[@sleeexs]

@@lookman-2844 Loool west india what a joke loool

[@misinai]

Stop your incitement and listen. We and the Palestinian masses are the victims of the corrupt Plaestinian and Arab leaders. @benleftun The study really supports Zionism since Zinism will relase not only the Jews from their misery but also the Palestinians and later the entire Arab world. Neighter the Palestinians nor the Arabs can release themselves from their misrey. Only Zionism can do it and will do it. The same thing that it has done to the Jews it will do the the rest of the Middle East.

[@misinai]

@benleftun There is part of teh Arab culture that is a disater to all those that have this culture. Thre are part fo AIslam taht was added by people that are a disaster to all Muslims. In 1948 only 25% of the refugees were expelled. The rest fled away as result of instructions by Araba and Palestinian leaders. THe total number from within the green Line was about 300,000. You are jusy one victim of the lies of the Palestinian leadership.The entire country was called Palestina byEeuropean Jews..

[@misinai]

@rareisalive If you mean that faith separates us, than first the faith that we are one peole will start uniting us. Than the knowledge adn faith that Islam was forced here will do most of the rest. Yet another faith is that Jews and normal Muslims combined with some Christians will put an end to exrteme Islam.