CARBON FIBER INTAKE MANIFOLD Testing vs BILLET - WHO WINS? | Coyote Intake Manifold Shootout!

[@tylerolson5860]

NA shootout please!! NA MMR Composite vs CJ vs Holley.

[@mmaraio_1250]

would definetely get ton of views no one else has done that

[@PalmBeachDyno]

We'd love to do something like this!

[@scottthompson9475]

... specifically the holley ultra low profile.

[@socdy600]

👌🏾🏁

[@tylerolson5860]

@@PalmBeachDyno Theres not much to discuss in the oem intake manifolds. Please do the MMR vs CJ vs Holley. Those are the heavy hitters. Then people can weigh cost vs results.

[@MaxwellReviresco]

It’s your mind is your success. I love this type of deeper look at how and why power moves around on a curve. Rather than the old thought of total numbers. Take it all into consideration and you got some fun tests on the way, which why I’m here 🤘

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Thanks for watching! 😎

[@Allmotorzl1]

Holy smokes this video is full of gold! Thanks for taking the time to test all 3. Would have loved to see how a 18gt mani compared since most TT GTs run them. But good stuff either way.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@douglasbaker5949]

I’m to poor for you guys 5000 for this,18 with porting is fine for me.

[@mustangmike3830]

​@douglasbaker5949 I have the perfect application for this product, tt 19 Coyote I track but $5k for an intake manifold? Unless it's made of gold...prices of parts r out of control

[@johnniebrady6497]

Love these type videos.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

More to come!

[@haraldschwarzinger8705]

Absolutly perfect comparison about these 3 manifolds based opon dyno sheets and weights 👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍

[@GapSauceYoutube]

Absolutely correct about the taper, more taper = more rpm. The radius entry on the bellmouth works the same way, larger radius, more rpm. If you are running a carb, carbon/composite intakes are a nightmare. In 9000+ rpm small blocks, the prostock guys have seen actual fuel foaming from the resonance issues that come with the lightweight material. Dry intakes obviously aren't affected so much as seen here. Not to say it isnt missing numbers due to that.

[@sepg5084]

Good thing this is not a carb setup then

[@carterztv7381]

I like the tech videos, good stuff! Very informative and I was thinking why not just add a pound of boost.. Y'all answered my question!

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Great minds think alike! 🤓

[@gabecadorette8714]

Yeeeesssss on the NA intake shootout

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Stay tuned! 😁

[@nickorozco9177]

Awesome video ! Wish there were more videos like this . Great consumer education !

[@PalmBeachDyno]

More to come!

[@nickorozco9177]

@@PalmBeachDyno cant wait !

[@sn95_mustang_garage]

I have an MMR Intake sitting on my work bench. It would have been the longest runner length in the group and MMR says it’s 1100hp+ is where it shines. Price is around $3600. I am selling it as my car makes 780. Would have loved to have seen the longer runner length peak. We need to eventually see a Vortech / Procharger / ESS style blower with stock intake, ported, other N/A units. Nobody has done this. VMP has done the N/A intake shootout 4 years ago.

[@paulhudgins5120]

Great video, great work on testing all 3 manifolds, a ton work but well worth it as viewing entertainment and knowledge, well done guys. That NA manifold comparison testing would be awesome!

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@headgames]

Cool test! Thanks for sharing!

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Thanks for watching!

[@2ndAmendmnt]

the beard is fucking badass 🔥🔥. Goals 💪

[@ironbull2003]

So if you run 18 mani or Boss 302 or gt350 one vs this 3 will they run similar numbers? Its just comes down to reliability?

[@craigm5511]

Fabulous video! I'd love to have seen what a factory manifold would have achieved as a true baseline test.

[@skullhart]

I was going to say the same

[@busslayer4790]

I always heard all the intake theory things like runner length and volume were less significant once boost was introduced. It would be interesting to see the similar tests with a good NA setup.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Hoping we can do one in the near future!

[@nickorozco9177]

@@PalmBeachDyno those would b some interesting results , i still feel like a ported cobra jet would have the best overall power curve for 90% of the hi end N/A builds …

[@AYO_KO]

You guys run this mustang business 🤯🤯

[@WXSTANG]

Holy short runners! High HP application for sure.

[@jimmymccormick142]

Great video l love learning about my Ford stuff totally awesome

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Right on!

[@jonathanjones1814]

Great video, very informative 👏🏾

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Thanks for watching!

[@BigInjun05]

Diggin that ttr

[@PalmBeachDyno]

So are we! 😎🤟

[@dmntd1]

I would be very interested to see these same manifolds on a slightly modified N/A car. As I remember going back to the late 80's and early 90's 5.0, blow thru boost really wasn't keen to a big TB and everything that would be good for N/A. I sort of see the same thing playing out here.

[@navaho5430]

Richard Holder would love this.

[@stevanford1]

Plazmaman #1 for me

[@dr_tate]

Richard Holdener did a Plenum Volume Test. He used a Holley High Ram. He then replaced the top of the Holley High Ram with a Beer Keg. It made zero difference on the dyno.

[@_carnivore_joe1520]

Great vid Ken! Id be interested in the group buy on the TTR when you guys do it. Cause like you, I'm a carbon guy. LOL

[@silvaghombard7666]

Love this! NA next please

[@raceredbetty4514]

Awesome video!! More like theses please

[@PalmBeachDyno]

You got it!

[@Cronus_1]

Would love to see an NA shootout on a GT350.

[@marksiniard9731]

Great comparison

[@Redeyereaper8]

Amazingly great detailed information

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Glad it was helpful!

[@98v6]

Did you record any differences in intake temp? Thank you for the in depth look. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 liked and subcribed looking forward to whats next.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

We were sure to keep intake temps similar for comparison. Any measure of heat soak would have to happen on the street since the dyno will not simulate that well

[@GTRliffe]

that pull you celebrate-traction, the tire is 1-2 inches deeper in the roller.. Shouldn't all the runs be tin that correct position?

[@slyr1]

Did you ever test out the MMR Racing intake manifold for the mustang?

[@sergiolopez9955]

I would trust the billet more. Considering I’ve seen Carbon driveshafts snap from too much power, I feel like there’s a higher chance of the carbon manifold cracking

[@mrmike1183]

Aviation uses carbon props these days....if they can withstand those forces I don't think 25 lbs of boost will hurt this intake

[@03c5z]

Not to mention they are different types of forces and the carbon is laid deifferently. Lots of variables that cant be compared between a driveshaft and intake. Ultimately aluminum should hold more pressure, but if properly designed the burst plates should fail first on both.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

We're limited by the stock engine setup here, but it will handle A LOT more than what we've thrown at it so far

[@mrmike1183]

@@CalebsCars sure it is carbon fiber is strong is what I was getting at. The only way carbon fails is from delaminating but I assume you work with carbon fiber/resin so please enlighten me on why they are not remotely the same. 03c5z is right they are 5 forces acting on a prop. A carbon intake only has 1 maybe 2 if you want to make a claim to heat expansion.

[@sergiolopez9955]

More than the billet ?

[@Fox29997]

Awesome video

[@redstang70]

Great video thanks for doing this. I will say the same throttle body should have been used on each manifold to remove any variable the different ones may pose. I take these numbers with a grain of salt due to this variable not being taken into account. Its unfortunate because otherwise this was a very well executed test. I think for most of use probably any of these would be fine but if your literally concerned with every single ounce of power and tenth then you have some options!

[@3dforgesydney549]

Looks like 2 new what they were doing, and 1 followed the Internet scientist's lol

[@dailylife3975]

What about putting the smaller throttle body on the ttr and put it on the plasmamans

[@dogdue4588]

What do you think about the BOSS 302 N A manifold?thanks.

[@crownvictorialifestyle4421]

The stock 18 manifold for the win all these high-dollar manifolds for a few horsepower up top Hell you can do a Cobra jet for half that price

[@The_action_is_the_juice]

But, then there wouldn't be anything to sell. hahahahaha

[@hawkeye1990ful]

Yeah, until your plastic manifold explodes and your car burns down.

[@The_action_is_the_juice]

@@hawkeye1990ful sure. I'm running 20lbs of boost through my 18 manifold. Zero issues.

[@hawkeye1990ful]

@@The_action_is_the_juice that’s cute, these manifolds are for people willing to run big boost or who just have money to burn.

[@hawkeye1990ful]

@@CalebsCars maybe they have but I bet you can’t cram 40+psi down a stock manifold

[@ThatGuy3714]

How well would they hold up to a 2 step

[@sepg5084]

i'll take the Plazmaman

[@twe73jr]

Cool video

[@jplperformance9073]

Wow badass

[@PalmBeachDyno]

😎😎

[@c.lightning6815]

Such an epic beard

[@mohammadsattar5488]

I might have missed it but is there a big weight difference between the three

[@PalmBeachDyno]

6 lbs

[@stock__5.063]

What’s best for a Gen. 3 n/a Holley or gen 2 cj

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Looks like CJ is still better choice but need more time to get more Holley results

[@navaho5430]

The shawns is losing air velocity it's too big a throttle body, just my thought what about Holley cheers from OZ.

[@PalmBeachDyno]

It's the runners, not the TB

[@clavicusvile5450]

If I got one of these for an NA Gt350, could I expect any gains?

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Hard to guess really but I would like to test it NA soon

[@clavicusvile5450]

@@PalmBeachDyno if there is a dyno video comparison between the different manifolds for an NA build, and the gains are decent solid, consider me a buyer.👍

[@jz28h]

What is a proper ratio of plenum volume on a TT engine setup?

[@pafsrh4744]

love it

[@mariomelchiori90]

Fits on a Mustang GT 2019 10speed?

[@PalmBeachDyno]

Yup!

[@mariomelchiori90]

@@PalmBeachDyno my mustang have no boost 😅

[@PalmBeachDyno]

@@mariomelchiori90 🤣 we can fix that!

[@mariomelchiori90]

@@PalmBeachDyno ohh yes 🤣🤣 but i live im Austria

[@mariomelchiori90]

Whats the price ?

[@slyr1]

Hey ZZ Top what's up with the bush on your face man take that off

[@stevmstng5165]

🇺🇸

[@PalmBeachDyno]

😎

[@mr.c5217]

Shorter runners always wins

[@mghoward74]

Shave that face….love the video