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@untitled.70216 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest The Best Of Enemies should now be a trio, he’s earned his stripes
@WeeklySports4U6 ай бұрын
No he hasnt. I dont mind him in the odd episode but he aint great. Even in debates he literally cant debate. I seen him on the kickoff 1 time and he was awful. Expressions is way funnier and is an actual enemy. KG isnt a proper enemy
@terrahofficial6 ай бұрын
BIG FACTS!
@ace-paidinfull52406 ай бұрын
@@WeeklySports4Unah kg is a direct enemy. Spurs may always be the closest rival, but spurs are fishes in this pond, man utd have been our direct rivals for years
@Harrow9326 ай бұрын
@@WeeklySports4Ukg is brilliant man
@DapperSZN6 ай бұрын
KG is funny but his serious footy takes are often childish and emotional
@seiloubah96856 ай бұрын
Ex clearly remembers Anderson since he keeps mentioning him😂😂😂
@symphonyz65226 ай бұрын
KG didn't even understand the question. Kept talking about Kane not winning anything, but that wasn't the point of the debate. LMAO
@osaroboehigiator3456 ай бұрын
Ex nailed it. Harry Kane would remembered as a legend even if he doesn’t win a trophy. He is a household name in English football. I’m an Arsenal fan and i am sure every EPL club would relish Harry Kane playing for them.
@John858_6 ай бұрын
I’d be pissed if my team signed that slouch
@thetruth46546 ай бұрын
i`d change the team i support, if we had signed Kane
@mad-mullah31175 ай бұрын
He is cursed!
@Poussyeater-w5e5 ай бұрын
It's a bit like Alan Shearer isn't it?
@jayt38836 ай бұрын
Robbie: Majority of Palmers goals were penalty 😂😂😂 and what bout Saka’s??? 👀👀👀
@jayt38836 ай бұрын
Palmer scored more open play goals than Saka so make it make sense 😂😂😂
@kiamakariukibud90246 ай бұрын
Noooo penalties...
@c_nyak245 ай бұрын
Palmer only had 9 pens…scored 27 goals…this needs to stop
@jrich83196 ай бұрын
Ex won the first debate. IMO
@gappy19876 ай бұрын
I'm a United fan, and I agree wholeheartedly.
@joemartinez80426 ай бұрын
arsenal fans are afriad of giving palmer a chance, due to the fact that he can outperform their star boy. Take aways palmers pens, and he still had an amazing season. He has shown he is a class player, and how can he prove he's better if they never hive him a chance? just because saka has been a bit better than the other front 3, doesn't mean he hasn't played like shit. he's been ghosting the past three matches, that assist hardly counts as one, it was terrible cross turned to good one with that deflection. arsenal bias is insane
@madaxwayne6 ай бұрын
just ask them whos better out of haverts and palmer to see how deluded/disingenuous they are they know if palmer performs its long for their boy
@scottking8696 ай бұрын
Dont even play same position 😂@@madaxwayne
@scottking8696 ай бұрын
Palmer played the bosnia and iceland game and came on against slovenia dead legs. Give him hes chance and i bet you it will still be the same
@madaxwayne6 ай бұрын
@@scottking869 and Messi and Ronaldo aren't same position yet that debates been on for 15 years
@madaxwayne6 ай бұрын
@@scottking869 comparing a euro game to a dead rubber friendly makes no sense Palmer's so terrible even arsenal legends want to accommodate by moving "the best rw" to lwb lol
@Demi8766 ай бұрын
I find it crazy dat arsenal fans say half of Palmers goals are pens and he still has more non pen goals than saka
@madaxwayne6 ай бұрын
their not the brightest bunch they know if he starts sakas gonna benched or lb lol
@ARSENALFORLIFECOYG6 ай бұрын
Saka’s been doing it for years even when he’s being doubled try again 😂😂😂
@buhlengcibi69796 ай бұрын
Half are pen goals because he is the best penalty taker in EPL 😂
@luqmanmohames6776 ай бұрын
"years" and it's only been 3 seasons. Palmer better @@ARSENALFORLIFECOYG
@user-bn5ui6ys8k6 ай бұрын
@@luqmanmohames677 bro 3 seasons are 3 YEARS what are u talking about I hate Arsenal but I have to admit Saka is a better player than Palmer. He had ONE great season ONE! Lets see what he can do in the following seasons.
@xperialmemphis60396 ай бұрын
Kg cant debate he just yells and talks about trophies
@ashleytedd46346 ай бұрын
Because you don’t debate with trophies
@GoonerSE6 ай бұрын
Blokes a moron. Screams autism
@wyattanderson50106 ай бұрын
It’s the same with ex tbh
@WTF.MD.6 ай бұрын
What else do you talk about if not trophies
@lindilebangose76676 ай бұрын
@@WTF.MD. performance?
@Slamzzie6 ай бұрын
We all know Ty is delusional! But Robbie is on another level of Delusion…..
@SinenkosiMkhize6 ай бұрын
He must be taking the piss
@mohammedhamza55603 ай бұрын
But larger
@Chillguy8506 ай бұрын
Harry Kane is world class no matter what happens he's loyalty to Spurs is what killed his career
@thebeardedcartrader6 ай бұрын
Robbie sitting directly under a light is a violation 🤣😅
@Logicsupersedes6 ай бұрын
Harry kane is England's all time top goal scorer. Of course he's going to be remembered lmao KG genuinely means what he's saying but is gonna act like he was trolling
@teflondon33595 ай бұрын
Those titles ain't done nothing fir England
@Logicsupersedes5 ай бұрын
@@teflondon3359 he's the all time top scorer. It goes down in history.
@teflondon33595 ай бұрын
@@Logicsupersedes that why England never won a wold cup in years you guys happy with the minimum man can be all time scorer but can't give England the world Cup nuff said 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Logicsupersedes5 ай бұрын
@@teflondon3359 I think you're braindead. What does that have to do with what we're talking about?
@Wavy6126 ай бұрын
*Don Robbie looks like a grown up knee cap*
@EmperorDraconianIV6 ай бұрын
must you come online to insult people. Don't you have good things to say about others? Grow up
@The-Alcoholic-Author6 ай бұрын
If that's you in your profile pic you are definitely not in a position to be commenting on what other people look like lmfao.
@Wavy6126 ай бұрын
@@The-Alcoholic-Author says the guy with a goat as a profile pic. I can show my face proudly mate can you?
@AnarXhyyy76 ай бұрын
You’re a sad chap aren’t you ?
@ViolentEpyon6 ай бұрын
@@Wavy612 grow up 🙄
@aaronsaju246 ай бұрын
Yes! KG is back!
@GoonerSE6 ай бұрын
L COMMENT
@Cole_King6 ай бұрын
If Cole Palmer was playing in Arsenal they would have definitely won the league.
@SinenkosiMkhize6 ай бұрын
We would be playing in the conference league
@joelroye78086 ай бұрын
@@SinenkosiMkhizeyou dont have a clue
@TeshiKyoshi6 ай бұрын
If Cole Palmer wqs playing in Arsenal everyone would say hes shit
@Nat-wu4kj5 ай бұрын
Why didn’t he win it at Chelsea with that billion dollar squad 😂?
@SamuelOkafor-ph3nh5 ай бұрын
@@Nat-wu4kj because half of the billion were imjured and only the second team remained
@orhizzle59086 ай бұрын
Kane can be remembered as the best player who never won a trophy.
@izzyraj6 ай бұрын
Of course kane will be remembered. Hes one of the best strikers in the world. Idc what hes won. Trophies are TEAM accomplishments. The guy is elite. Edit: Robbie has some weird affection with Southgate man...
@bmoski2176 ай бұрын
How can Kane not be remembered when hes etched himself in the history books as England and Tottenham's All time Top goalscorer?
@MU4Lyfe6 ай бұрын
But theoretically if he doesn’t win anything and another young player comes around and breaks his records will he be remembered?
@FreshNSlunky6 ай бұрын
@@MU4Lyfe yes 100%
@Arsalan.Sarwar6 ай бұрын
What if someone in the future surpasses him? What will he be remembered for then?
@bmoski2176 ай бұрын
@Arsalan.Sarwar Well by then he would have won trophies my friend 😂
@bmoski2176 ай бұрын
@@MU4Lyfe chill, Kane is still going to win trophies with Bayern😂🤣👍
@karlwilliams86256 ай бұрын
Robbie counted a fugazi goal
@K.MashBlkrain5 ай бұрын
I have to say that the second argument was a vio for EX to lose We haven't seen the best of Saka in the Euro and Palmer was given 10 mins and he performed way better than Saka did.
@BuNu76 ай бұрын
26:15 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Don Robbie is killing me
@gooner17566 ай бұрын
Palmer is better in the 10 Saka has been the best out of a bad bunch out of the front 3 So why is he the only one people are discussing being dropped.. It’s because he plays for Arsenal.
@deeray46376 ай бұрын
The hate Arsenal players get is genuinely ridiculous. Rival fans just embarrassing themselves tbh.
@BestInTheWorld13x6 ай бұрын
@@deeray4637 its been going on for decades when it comes to Arsenal talk. I'm just used to it
@fplrandom62326 ай бұрын
Guehi's been the best player
@solo28736 ай бұрын
You guys are internalizing everything, there’s literally more people talking about Foden being taken out the team. Also you guys hype up your players more than any other fanbase so of course the criticism is going to be as loud. Stop with the victim mentality, every English player besides Guehi is getting cooked.
@jayzretrogaminz176 ай бұрын
@@fplrandom6232lol does he play up top
@CIOUSGAMING6 ай бұрын
The best trio on any sports channel.... Amazing guys really entertaining
@sandg5076 ай бұрын
KG is a comedian , intentionally and unintentionally .The thing is , is he aware?😂
@Noahmbo6 ай бұрын
Palmer has more non penalty goals than saka last season so that pointbis nonsense. And he had 13goals 9npg alongside 12 assists and thats just the league
@xperialmemphis60396 ай бұрын
Well it's not like Chelsea as a club had that many games otherwise to consider
@adrianmulindwa58636 ай бұрын
@@xperialmemphis6039 And Palmer still outscored saka despite the fact that saka played more games in the season
@RayseanEdogameh6 ай бұрын
@@adrianmulindwa5863That’s because Saka isn’t the only good attacking player at his club, Chelsea without Palmer is getting relegated
@officialrozay45156 ай бұрын
Palmer still clears off Saka in open play goals this season so stop the waffling Don Robbie 👍🏽
@filowey6 ай бұрын
Robbie the new Roman in the fast and furious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@manikantprasad20226 ай бұрын
When KG talks about Cobra Kai and Ex slides the sauce😂😂😂.
@ramo18246 ай бұрын
Harry Kane will be remembered for his fantasy points
@indiechana97716 ай бұрын
Scott Carson is a legend and a great if trophies come in to it
@gumzbenjamin856 ай бұрын
Yes of course
@nawazshah56206 ай бұрын
26:00 i'm dead 😂😂😂
@mikaela65626 ай бұрын
KG is the real KGGGGG!
@jayt38836 ай бұрын
Robbie going on about Palmer scoring penalties as if Saka didn’t get half of his goals through penalties. Cole Palmer scored more open play goals than saka and assisted more goals/ was in more goals contribution than saka all season lets also not forget Cole palmer wasn’t playing in europe.
@dlaw11315 ай бұрын
The disrespect toward Saka is what this England team will continue to be trophyless. England second top goal scorer can't be compare to palmer that was always on the bench at City. He was there when Pep went for duku and sold him immediately. Pep was even questioned if he regret selling palmer and Pep said no regret. On the other hand, Pep said he regretted selling sterling but he couldn't hold him because the player needed time. Palmer should have made City first team if he was that good. You guys need to stop this hate toward saka. Any manager that take over England will never bench Saka for Palmer save this comment. They both are not peers, saka is way ahead of him.
@kevinesdaille10285 ай бұрын
@dlaw1131 ur point makes no sense...his GA at Chelsea was still best of the rest season gone....Kevin debruyne couldn't make it into Jose chelsea side and was sold, then went on to be one of the greatest mids...so stop shit talk about palmer couldn't make at city that's he not better than saka
@abhinavpundkar50286 ай бұрын
Now it's palmer vs saka because foden is in already in legend status
@marzipanmonkey6 ай бұрын
This tournament has shown how limited Foden is when he doesn't have a well oiled machine around him. Hardly a legend.
@kgooner70356 ай бұрын
Ex dancing when he hosts instead of keeping the peace 😂😂😂😂
@ThaLed936 ай бұрын
One assist and a goal that was disallowed, lmfao god tier waffling Robbie
@richardwalsh57406 ай бұрын
Palmer should start over Saka come on man ..he is actually clear tbf
@RayseanEdogameh6 ай бұрын
He isn’t mate idk why you lot expect the two time England player of the year to be dropped just because Palmer had one better season delusional bunch
@richardwalsh57406 ай бұрын
@@RayseanEdogameh 2 times england player of the year is so pointless its just a random shit award..could be anyone loool
@frankylampard39316 ай бұрын
Play them both drop Foden. Palmer 10 Saka rw , Gordon lw . Easy
@Dreoutlaw8765 ай бұрын
That light on robbie head though 😅😂
@lennyemanuel9246 ай бұрын
“Tenderstem Robbie” 😂😂😂
@Mish428166 ай бұрын
Kane will be remembered for "Yeah Obviously!" 😂😂😂
@wally86_6 ай бұрын
“Let me land, shoutout Lippy” lol Lickshot Lippy’s phrases have become part of UK slang
@ebsyebs_empress876 ай бұрын
You three are legendary🔥😂 Big up!
@seanwalker98216 ай бұрын
I’m a gooner so biased, Kane will be remembered but not as a great without a fair few trophy’s at this point, he flops when it matters historically
@theinvisiblesupport73466 ай бұрын
KG removed the cap and disappeared 😂😂😂😂😂
@sufifeifeyfy6 ай бұрын
“Saka been good” did dog shit for 3 games
@marzipanmonkey6 ай бұрын
Well aside from contributing to the 1st goal, has been one of our more positive attackers and would have had a goal himself had Foden kept himself onside. But yeah simpleton football fan logic for you.
@sufifeifeyfy6 ай бұрын
@@marzipanmonkey he’s just average at best, the rest was more disappointing. He said “good”, he wasn’t good but not the biggest issue too. Simple english for you.
@marzipanmonkey6 ай бұрын
@@sufifeifeyfy Didn't need simple English at all. Just a more thoughtful, intelligent and a nuanced point rather than just "he was dog shit for 3 games" which is the kind of dumb stuff I hear from my 5 year old nephew.
@lsnamber6 ай бұрын
@@marzipanmonkey every england player in midfield and attack have been dogshit, all of their places should be in jeapordy, they're an overrated bunch
@zainshabodien15936 ай бұрын
"Robert" 🤣
@tyrellriccardo55486 ай бұрын
Palmer >>
@kemarp14 ай бұрын
No one can out talk expressions... this man can sell water to the ocean
@theinvisiblesupport73466 ай бұрын
“I support the triple threat”😂😂😂😂😂😂
@compballrsa6 ай бұрын
3 idiots 🔥🔥😂😂 Lot's of love from South Africa ❤😂
@computer14246 ай бұрын
Great video, but it will be great if each person gets 2-3 minutes to present their points, and a 5 minutes back-and-forth to determine who get the volcano sauce
@Maj17946 ай бұрын
These man are a vibe 😂😂😂
@ГеоргиСветославов-н4и6 ай бұрын
No matter the place where they do it. It's always going to be a banger
@kaliou66456 ай бұрын
They can SAKA SOUTHGATE🏴👨🏾🦲🫡⚽️🏟️🏆😅😅😅
@juderaj84466 ай бұрын
Kg cannot debate
@OriginalYS6 ай бұрын
Crazy how people still think Saka is a better footballer than Cole Palmer
@deeray46376 ай бұрын
They have every reason to think that. When palmer does it for more than one season, then talk.
@OriginalYS6 ай бұрын
@@deeray4637 last season Palmer played better than Saka, in a 20 minute cameo Palmer looked better than Saka has looked in 3 games - take your goon goggles off kid
@user-sm2bf9mu7z6 ай бұрын
What had saka done for more than 1 season. Saka has been shit this season compared to last season@@deeray4637
@BGK5606 ай бұрын
@YoungSoprano90 Palmer, Mainoo and Watkins all played and yet England lost to Iceland at Wembley. Stop making it sound like one player will change the fortunes of this poorly coached team
@ygty_cr26706 ай бұрын
@@OriginalYSso Antony is better then saka because he looks better? Idiot 💀🤣
@marlee23096 ай бұрын
if saka played for any other club robbie would 100% be saying he shouldnt be in the team
@bendahman52316 ай бұрын
Arsenal fans don't want Saka to play at LB because they know if that happens the world class talk will stop, they don't care bout England
@bendahman52316 ай бұрын
@antidumbcomments same same
@BehraamK46 ай бұрын
Fam I was like what’s all the shouting about when I hear Ancient Anderson 🤣😂🤣ffs cmon man one at a time 🤣just hella yapping big to the don silencing them 🤣 (didn’t last long😂🙌🏽)
@dudiheadz6 ай бұрын
25:29 ima be honest, As an Arsenal and debate fan, Ex won the Saka/Palmer debate. For me, Robbie lost when he started saying Ex’s reason were because no spurs are in the team. He should have kept it to how Saka has done fine and how a sole change to Palmer wouldn’t change anything.
@Joseph-rr5ey6 ай бұрын
We need rants on best of enemies
@xperialmemphis60396 ай бұрын
Fuck no he's got the personality and enthusiasm as a dead racoon
@darksiderumpunch6 ай бұрын
I would stop watching
@simplyrecommended6 ай бұрын
palmer better than saka to call saka world class is blasphemy
@90TAnkit6 ай бұрын
Contradict yourself by mentioning palmer is better than saka and describing blasphemy 😂😂
@mpd78786 ай бұрын
22 goals at least 10 pens
@denzelrobert6 ай бұрын
Palmer has had one good season for Chelsea, stop sucking him off because Saka has been consistently good for Arsenal and has just gotten better
@Conradcockhard6 ай бұрын
@@denzelrobert Consistently good ? We had a 4 month spell where Saka did NOTHING.. Last season at the end of the season.. 5 months..1 goal and 3 assists.. Looks woeful for england
@denzelrobert6 ай бұрын
@@Conradcockhard Where was Cole Palmer in the Carabao Cup Final against the Liverpool who played little kids, where was Cole Palmer against ManCity in the FA Cup semifinal huh? we can do this all day. COLLLLLLD PALMER WITH ALL HIS GOALS LAST SEASON WILL BE CHILLING IN THE CONFERENCE LEAGUE NEXT SEASON whilst Bukayo will be playing Champions league Football. I'm telling you if Palmer doesn't get even half the G/A he got last season, next season, i assure you people will begin to call him OVERRATED and that HE HAD A FLUKE GOOD SEASON, IT AINT HARD FOR A PLAYER TO SHINE IN THAT MUDDIED BILLION POUND CHELSEA SQUAD, Fix up man
@clintlecointe26736 ай бұрын
that outro🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@mrmivisuals6 ай бұрын
Fabio Compello 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joshpaul64176 ай бұрын
no matter how bad my mood is Ex cracks me up
@bernardbastien8176 ай бұрын
You can't take these things seriously because fans will protect their favourites and attack their opps. And people are just thirsty for content.
@timothyalvarado10145 ай бұрын
zola . le tisseir . never one anything. legends as far as im concerned. arsenal fan . not a massive fan but respect where its due lads
@terrahofficial6 ай бұрын
8:01 Kane dis win a trophy this year…he won a CANNON for top goal scorer in germany 😂😂😂
@Conradcockhard6 ай бұрын
Wake me up when Rice makes a forward pass.. We were losing a ton of games until Arteta moved Rice into the 8...
@theomatthew52866 ай бұрын
It's a good job Ex and KG are genuinely entertaining and for the most part quite funny, since their level of understanding football seems rather limited.
@Macroixx6 ай бұрын
Glad he used our local Kenyan Swahili slang, 'hakuna matata'
@CFCMAMO16 ай бұрын
Nah i cant take KG serious. Why does he have an "insssssiiiiide" voice all day long. 😂😂😂
@AddicT3Dtv6 ай бұрын
Robbies right except we're getting beat by the slovaks 😂
@patrickamoyaw14926 ай бұрын
Robbie bringing up Palmer’s penalty goals is hilarious bc Palmer had more Non penalty goals than Saka
@acethegoat796 ай бұрын
This was fun! 😅
@Steggs6 ай бұрын
Robbie should make KG and Expressions eat a whole box of tenders dipped in Volcano Sauce if England (ever) win the Euro/WC 😂
@AmirUtd176 ай бұрын
Big up Owen and the UV community 💥
@kingstonfamous31316 ай бұрын
Chicken swimming in spit after that conversation and they still ate it 😳
@corybrown4166 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@sahrkanda22156 ай бұрын
This is simple the English media will remember Kane as a top goal-scorer but however out of the world, no one will remeber him as a legend
@lampard95126 ай бұрын
Everyone remembered Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, James Harden, Chris Paul.. No rings.. Still remembered as a great player
@jackmalikey71876 ай бұрын
As soon as EX said he would bench rice, he lost. Agenda stinks 😂😂😂
@krana9866 ай бұрын
LeT mE lAnD! ! ! ! ! lEt Me LaNd! ! ! ! ! ! LeT mE lAnD! ! ! ! ! lEt Me LaNd! ! ! ! ! !
@sothmusic80456 ай бұрын
Robbie’s delusional - United where poor but Ten done a tactical masterclass (FA Cup final) because we got Martinez and Varane back ! Ten has made some very serious mistakes and deserved criticism but I felt for him regarding not having his first back 4 for the majority of the season (no excuses) Southgate has had a copious amount of England talent yet is inept in all departments as a manager, individual brilliance can only get you so far once England play decent not the best decent opposition it will be curtains
@teflondon33595 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
@BenjaminAdeoye-rd7tx6 ай бұрын
Omg I can't stop laughing. Lava hot😂
@XLscaf6 ай бұрын
Currently I don’t think anyone could argue Saka over palmer… unless your just a biased arsenal fan 🤷♂️
@mpd78786 ай бұрын
What Palmer done ?
@deeray46376 ай бұрын
Why couldn't they? Lol, Palmer has had one good season, saka has been consistently good for a number of years now. Get off your knees for palmer mate.
@jadenphilander87996 ай бұрын
@@deeray4637 How does Palmer have one good seasomn when he has won the treble😂. Palmers season at Chelsea is better than what Saka has dome in his entire life. Palmer is a better footballer, more technical and individually a better player tham Saka the system player.
@crypticdeano46716 ай бұрын
No YOU are biased saka has and continues to do more for England than anyone else on this team.
@joemartinez80426 ай бұрын
@@crypticdeano4671you dont know that because we havent given palmer a chance. Arsenal fans are just afraid palmer might be better so they dont want him to play 😂
@jlhus56156 ай бұрын
Don Robbie is right It's finally coming home we have the easiest route to the final with piss easy teams yes I know our performance has been poor but we will step it up we have the best squad and depth
@davidfortes11546 ай бұрын
Why’s KG’s knee look like it’s been in the grill with that chicken??? 🤨🤣🤣🤣
@barclayswsltv6 ай бұрын
Robbie waffling as usual😂what do you mean you are using an offside goal to prove anything
@samuelolaoke71885 ай бұрын
Robbie came from the future. Big up England for the trouphy
@bluelionking52856 ай бұрын
England STILL remember SAKA MISSED A PEN that coz England winning the EUROS 2020! Full STOP😂🤣😂
@Liond4d6 ай бұрын
Give it to to Don Robbie DR sports is poppin!!!
@NyiiroIvan-bc2wb6 ай бұрын
Am supporting Portugal, much love from Uganda
@zubairmahmood13646 ай бұрын
Expression and Robbie too cool for KG
@slu446 ай бұрын
Why everything have to do with saka whats going on the left side whats about Kane midfield .... crazy saka saka he should have played for Nigeria
@westhamaremassive80996 ай бұрын
What’s the point of the argument bit if the person just does what they think regardless off the points
@atvf22956 ай бұрын
Init lol
@AddicT3Dtv6 ай бұрын
My ex was from Slovakia 🇸🇰 buff ting too
@SheLovesUnited6 ай бұрын
People seem to always miss understand the trophy argument, when it’s actually so simple
@ProVisualGaming4 ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan I can agree that Ex hates Chelsea! Bro threw so much shade at my club last season I started hating the guy too