Panasonic G7 vs GX80/GX85 comparison [after one year]

[@TeaJayPhotography]

If you have any comments or further questions, please leave them in the comments below!

[@dialatedmcd]

what did you choose to shoot the "talking head" (as they call it) portion

[@TeaJayPhotography]

G7 because of mic input and remote control. (and Lumix 20mm at F1.8)

[@sepamsekil]

what gears u shoot this video ?

[@sepamsekil]

lens? light?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

G7 with 20mm F1.7. Light was a LED bulb with 80 cm softbox

[@yonggor]

set speed to 1.25 for better watching experience

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Just slow down a bit in a fast moving world.

[@tman32]

He's German and likely English was the second language; he speaks English quite well. Personally, I enjoyed it in regular speed.

[@whichlens435]

@@tman32 Quite normal for this kind of review. I'm on x 1.5.

[@mandrisaputros8549]

A very nice video! Finally i can lock my decision to gx85! I was in great dilemma before

[@TeaJayPhotography]

I'm glad, I could help.

[@pecephoto7975]

Nice video. I just picked up the gx85. It was pretty much a perfectly featured camera for my needs. The ibis is so good, and combined with the 4k ability, at this price point, is almost criminal. I think it is one of the best buys in photography right now.

[@eduardofrade423]

You can use G7 with an external monitor, you just need to turn OFF the INFO DISPLAY in the HDMI REC OUTPUT, the same thing happens in the GH4.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Just tested it again. Screen of external monitor still goes black when hitting record button.

[@Matus0919]

Update??

[@TheAlexstam]

I owned in the past both.. first the G7 and after a while the GX80.. G7 the only complain was no stabilization, every video was shaky..but i preferred the ergonomics much more. Gx80 was not right at my hands and that's why i sold it.. but in terms of specs i think it's the best budget 4k camera for video/photos in the market.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Yes, I probably forgot to mention the AF/MF switch that is also a plus for the G7 ergonomics wise.

[@nakiradams]

You have 576 subscribers? I would have to have 576,000. One of the best Review that I saw in my search. Thanks to you today I will buy my GX85. Thank you so much. I hope it continues like this, I am subscribed. Luck!!

[@nakiradams]

I am going to buy in best buy this time because I need it today. Next time I will dropship with you

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@mongobeni4992]

The gx80 have the same sensor than the g7 but with no low pass filter, that means a little bit more dynamic range and sharpness for the gx80.

[@X-IMG]

Thanks!! Looking to replace my T3i from 2011 finally - and it still works albeit couple pixels perished RIP.

[@hedydd2]

The big plus for the G7 for me is the increased number of physical controls, including a drive mode dial at the top and a number of extra Fn buttons. The big drawback is the shutter and sensor. The sensor you covered in the video but the shutter is not only noticeably louder but must be switched to Auto or Electronic shutter in order to avoid shutter shock at certain commonly-used shutter speeds and with most lenses. The Auto function is very good actually and almost always chooses the best shutter for the circumstances, apart perhaps when there is a fast moving object passing through the frame

[@MicroFourNerds]

Awesome review! I love how you can charge the gx80 on the go it's super handy. I need a cable for my car like you I think!

[@mhsvz6735]

Thank you for another excellent review!

[@serchromo8326]

Thanks for the video. Could you do a video on how to setup the gx85 for video. It is difficult to know how to focus while recording. Dont know if record with autofocus or with manual focus. THanks!!

[@TeaJayPhotography]

I'm working on a video about picture profiles for filming. Should be up sometime next week, hopefully. I mostly use manual focus for filming, but it depends on what you want to film. Use focus peaking to make it easier.

[@anka7597]

Thank you for this video. It helps a lot!

[@smalltalk.productions9977]

thank you for the effort and the sharing. i have the g7 and really enjoy it. i am about to travel to tokyo and now wondering if some for of ibis is necessary in both vid and stills. thumbs up.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Ibis is probably not neccessary but of you have used it once, you want it all the time.

[@jensmetzler2033]

Nice video! Is the g7 small enough to fit an a jacket pocket for street photography? And also, how does the battery life of the gx80 compare to the g7?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

G7 is already quite bigger than the GX80. For bigger pockets in a jacket it may fit, but I would prefer GX80 for that. Paired with a pancake it is a compact package. Batterylife on GX80 is a bit worse than G7 but since you can charge the GX80 via USB, the GX80 lasts longer if you charge it on the go. I put it on charge every time I am in the car during trips.

[@Michael-fw5ef]

I always look for IBIS in any camera body. The FUJI company makes the best camera bodies but they dont have IBIS, so I end up using my Pentax and Olympus cameras more often.

[@patrickmj3316]

Is there any places where you go with the gx80 and not with the g7 because the g7 is too big ?

[@OurPetsHealth]

Nice comparison! Do you have any opinion on the video quality of the GX85 when shot in 1080 rather than 4K? Thanks!

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Thank you! 4k vs 1080 is a big difference, but 4k downscaled to 1080 is a bit cleaner than recorded in 1080. And you can crop and still have good quality. For longer recordings you have to be aware of the huge amount of storage space that 4k needs. If I don't need to deliver 4k or don't want to crop in post, I shoot in 1080.

[@OurPetsHealth]

@@TeaJayPhotography thanks for answering! I am looking at this for shooting my KZbin videos to replace my dying Olympus EMP2. I am tempted with this camera as there is a great deal locally but I have read that shooting native 1080 with it results in very poor quality. I only upload in 1080 and don't have the computing power to make 4k practical. thanks again

[@erikals]

Great Review! Thank You!  :)

[@johnnygrasso7714]

is the hdmi additional screen turnable 180, so that i could film myself with the gx80?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Depends on the screen but usually you can do this and flip the image either automatically or via the menue of the screen.

[@JESSROCKEDChannel]

wow thanks for the info about g85

[@c0r0y]

What is with the Autofocus? Is it as good as in the Canon M50?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Single AF is great. Continuous video AF in 4k is slow. I don't know the M50 but as far as I know it only has PDAF in HD and the contrast AF in 4k is bad.

[@rickkoloian4179]

I am considering both the G7 & G85 primarily for still photography & wanted to ask for your impressions of the cameras' image quality? Thanks,

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Hello, they should not be very different in terms of image quality. G85 has the same sensor as GX80, without low pass filter, so maybe it is a bit sharper, but not by much. The biggest difference is the IBIS. It's such a good feature an the newer Panasonic cameras that the G7 is missing!

[@gorcumsfinest8717]

Gx80 is a very good camera btw. But the g80 is just a little better cause of screen, oled viewfinder, mic input, 24/25/50/50 fps options, more physical buttons etc.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Exactly my conclusion. But I am still not sure if I will skip the G80 and go for the professional line (GH5/G9GH5s). But atm GX80 and G7 still work fine for me.

[@kidotatsuhiko5885]

nice job man the grip would be very helpful when using lens like 100 400mm

[@rumvodkaf1]

Nice. Can I ask if you can see the ibis effect in the viewfinder on the gx85?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Yes, you will see it. I have a 200mm unstabilized vintage lens and when you push the shutter halfway, you instantly notice the IBIS working.

[@rumvodkaf1]

Thank you.

[@peasantfarmer3030]

Can the GX80 be hacked to remove the recording time limit?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

I really don't know. I never felt the need for longer recording times. If you record for longer, the camera just starts a new file with a delay of maybe 1 or 2 seconds.

[@nerfun5335]

Which one has better quality of videos and photos?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

In video they are about equal quality. For stills the GX80 is slightly sharper. You can see some comparison shots in my "G7 and GX80 vs G9" video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIGxpYOJr5qIhqM

[@randrade89]

Thanks! What are your thoughts on the kit lenses they come with?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

I got the 14-140 with the G7. GX80 was body only. The 14-140mm is very versatile, but of course you have to make some compromises in image quality. Inn good light conditions it produces good results, but indoors and in low light situations you need faster lenses, preferably around F1.7. Also 14mm was often not wide enough for me especially with the additional crop in 4k on G7 and GX80. If I had to choose again, I would rather take a 12-60 as an allrounder.

[@randrade89]

Thanks!

[@smalltalk.productions9977]

and the better lens is the panasonic 12-60/2.8-4 which is the kit lens option with the gh5/g9.

[@randrade89]

Thanks!

[@CARTEBLANCHE_MV]

@teajayphotography oke i got a question . i have the gx80 with a speedbooster and the sigma 18-35mm, it work perfect , only i found one problem i can not use my f-stop any more. now i need to use the f-stop switch on my speedbooster, do you also have this problem ?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

What speedbooster do you have? I think with some you can't control aperture in camera and others can. On Metabones you can change to in camera aperture control by pressing the aperture lever on the speedbooster.

[@kalleankaa7536]

Hmm. Im using the sigma art lens 18-35 mm with a viltrox ef-m2ii. And my aperture from te camera works fine. But if i toggle the aperture control on the speedboooster i lose aperture control in body. Turning off and on fixed it.

[@okimurafranck7672]

cool info i subscribed

[@mrmar-que6307]

None of these camera's have over heating problems when filming in 4k right?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

I never had any issues.

[@mrmar-que6307]

@@TeaJayPhotography Cool! I just ended up getting the panasonic lumix g85 from mpb.com .It's used but it should be good. I needed that flip screen. Lol

[@deandreeeborra2226]

Can u recommend this one ove nikon d5300?

[@andykick6901]

what about @ low light videos ? who is the winner ?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

they should be pretty much the same in low light. Didn't test it side by side but from my experience.

[@nakiradams]

Gx85 Only trims when used with stabilizer activated. I checked. Regards

[@TeaJayPhotography]

You mean crop? There is a crop in 4k with IBIS and without. You get an additional crop with the electronic stabilisation both in 4k and in 1080p.

[@TheAwesomeGuy101]

Hey, Does the GX80/85 Output 4K thru the HDMI? Also how's the autofocus between the two? Thanks

[@TeaJayPhotography]

It does output 4k via HDMI. Single AF for photo is good. Continuous AF for Video quite bad in 4k and usable in 1080p, I would say.

[@peasantfarmer3030]

@@TeaJayPhotography When you say "output via HDMI", does that include saving the footage to an external hard drive or storage device?

[@loft4me]

Your GX80 has two interesting lenses, one the 20 mil (which I have), and the other, I believe the Laowa 7.5 mil (which I am considering). Have you used a particular technique with the 20 to overcome the focus hunting issue when shooting video, and also, how do you rate the 7.5 mil for street video work? Thanks Tea for the clip. You provide the most useful info with the least amount of facial expressions LOL.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

The 20mm is kind of love and hate. It's super sharp and compact but af is slow and for comfortable manual focusing it is too small and has focus by wire, which i don't like for MF. I will replace it with a 25mm sooner or later, but don't know which one yet. The LAOWA is great for video. The field of view is huge but you have to be aware of the camera movements or you will get some serious warping effect. When walking you should use a gimbal or steadycam.

[@loft4me]

Your insight is appreciated. It is given from your experience, and that is the best way to recommend something. Thanks Tea Jay.

[@emudojo]

What about the old and good gx8? It's it still a good buy?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Only had it in my hands once when I met another photographer. The viewfinder is awesome! The IBIS is good, although not as good as the newer IBIS in GX80,GH5 etc. Also GX8 has the fully articulating screen and mic input. So should be still a solid choice. Only issue I have heard of is a shutter shock problem similar to the G7. But I haven't really noticed it much with G7.

[@gorcumsfinest8717]

I had a gx80 but traded it for the g80. Ergonomics of the g7, but with all the good things of the gx80 but more options.

[@kidotatsuhiko5885]

man nice info thanks

[@joeprete7424]

What brand Grip is that on the GX80 @2:55 ????

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Panasonic DMW-HGR2

[@ELValenin]

Can you set 1080p 50fps and 4k 25fps in both?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

In the PAL version yes. In NTSC it's 1080 24/30/60fps and 4k 30 and 24.

[@ELValenin]

@@TeaJayPhotography okay, is between pal and ntsc any quality difference besides FPS?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

@EL Valenin I don't think so. The bitrates should be the same.

[@ELValenin]

@@TeaJayPhotography okay, thank you

[@Ivan-yw5vt]

G7 and gx80????

[@yoichifranck3753]

man cool vs i subscribed

[@dimitrimoonlight]

Hey, that' not true. UHD video recording last 29min as long as FHD .

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Got some comments on this before and explained that I found no way to fix this. Even the same sd card that recorded 30mins in the GX80 did not so on the G7.

[@yamandrivnyk]

i'm thinking to buy Panasonic G7 or GX80 and i can't choose which one is better for me as a travel blogger. Panasonic G7 - build in mic port, GX80 sensor stabilizer.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Maybe you should take a look at the G80 / G81.

[@yamandrivnyk]

​@@TeaJayPhotography yes G80 much better but the cost is higher too :)

[@Zeonoid]

your auto focus in this video is constantly working in and out ! Was it recorded with G7 or GX 80 ?

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Where do you see this? I filmed with manual focus, as always.

[@jasam123]

Lol

[@alfredp9754]

Gx9's grip is crap, you have to remove the whole grip just to change batteries. Luckily, someone made 3d print design grip with a hole for battery door.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

As stated in the video I never change batteries so it is working for me.

[@Askaly]

Ok, im gonna keep my GX80 and get a grip instead. Thanks.

[@GenosGlory]

I only use G7 for videos as for photos I might say it’s quite actually terrible. Even the much lower priced Lumix FG7 destroys it completely in terms of photography. Even the cheaper Nikon Coolpix handhelds perform better. For Videos the G7 is quite good and very easy to use and it has mic input.

[@TeaJayPhotography]

I disagree with the photo part. The GF7 and G7 share the same sensor so the quality should be equal. I'm really pleased with the photos I took with the G7. And also compact cameras with their smaller sensors aren't better quality wise.

[@GenosGlory]

Tea Jay Photography Hi I was surprised by that too but thats how the photos come out. FG7 lens gives out sharper and better looking photos. I still have them both I use them for different things and as I said G7 is grear for videos. Recently trying GX80 and its preety good.

[@jannieschluter9670]

German... 😏

[@TeaJayPhotography]

Korrekt!

[@oldschoolbluesplayer5319]

JUST BUY A REAL VIDEO CAMERA !

[@TeaJayPhotography]

They are not as versatile.