Pandemic In the Lab Gameplay Runthrough

[@equesfuscus]

I like the way you explain the change from the complexity of moving around the board, "trying to be in the right place at the right time," with the lab work. That helped me understand.

[@joeschulze7812]

I got "In the lab" for Christmas...the run through is very helpful, your timing is perfect....Thanks Richard.

[@timstimbre9762]

26:51 -- Love the interior monologue that is not so interior: 'What else can I do?' ... 'Well, I'm glad you asked...'

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

27:41 the grey spaces on the sequencing cards are for the disease being cured so u would have had to have 5 red 1 yellow

[@jessicafoster1196]

If a city with a color of an eradicated disease comes up during the infection phase, it is not removed from play, it is just ignored.

[@bluegreenash]

14:00 you could have walked to Miami(1), treated disease(2),used the Miami card to fly to Sao paulo(3),treated disease(4) although this uses a card. When playing pandemic, I place the 3rd cube on top, to indicate that the cards for those 3-stacks are on the top of the deck, regions which become 3-stacks when the card is played from the infection deck do not go on top. This helps to keep track of the more important issues

[@rahdo]

cool idea!

[@erikak4244]

@9:30 Rahdo moves on to the infect cities part of his turn before revealing what the second card he drew off the player deck was. But he does look at it later.

[@jurney85]

Towards the end, when you drew Kolcatta, you put the cube on Baghdad, this created an outbreak when you drew Baghdad a few turns later. Also, the rules say that you discard the city that you draw from the infection deck if the color is eradicated FYI

[@jurney85]

or in other words, don't remove it from the game.

[@bluegreenash]

@48:35 you place the black cube for Calcutta (Kolkata) on Bagdad

[@PauloRenato23]

bluegreenash noted... thanks

[@theoutlook55]

I know that too. I thought to myself, that Kolkata is nowhere near that area.

[@erickputra4011]

47:26 missed play. You can't do that removing all three blue cubes by medic special ability and put one of three to the sample dish. "A cube removed from the board by Events, the Containment Specialist’s ability, the Medic’s ability to automatically remove cured disease cubes, etc. may not be placed in a sample dish" so if you want to do that, you must play three actions, 2 actions threat 2 cubes back into the supply box, and one action threat goes into sample dish CMIIW

[@PauloRenato23]

Sorry but you are wrong, that part you quote is referring to CURED diseases and Blue wasn't cured, so the cubes didn't disappeared thanks to the Medic ability of automatically clearing cured diseases when he enters a city with them, he spent an action to treat the disease so he can place one of the cubes in the Lab. I think that part in the rules is meant to say that when cubes are removed from the board for "free" (meaning it isn't costing you an action to do it) you can't place them in the Lab, and that wasn't the case here. You can check it here: www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1524549/lab-cured-diseases EDIT: Also, regarding this last part of your comment; "so if you want to do that, you must play three actions, 2 actions threat 2 cubes back into the supply box, and one action threat goes into sample dish" That is also wrong, you can't choose to turn on and off the abilities of the characters, so when the Medic does the "Treat" action he can't choose to only remove 1 cube, he HAS to remove ALL cubes of the color he is treating at the time, so he would spend 1 action removing all 3 cubes and placing 1 of them in the Lab just like Richard did. If the disease was cured (that is the thing that the quote you gave pertains to) the Medic couldn't even treat the disease because the cubes would be automatically removed from the board when he entered the city, so he couldn't do what you said he could do by spending 3 actions. And even then, what you described, playing 3 actions, 2 to treat 2 cubes and 1 to the lab is incorrect because, has I explained if you are the medic you can't turn off the normal abilities you have, and if you aren't the medic, you use 1 action treat a disease, so you remove 1 cube from the board, you can then place that cube in the lab... so if you do 3 Treat actions like you were describing you could place the 3 cubes you removed in the Lab, basically you can place 1 cube per Treat action in the Lab... The medic with 1 treat action removes all cubes from the city and can only place one of them in the lab... So the Medic is good to clear the board of cubes, he's not that good to send cubes to the lab! www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1094052/roles-cures-and-lab-challenge Another Thread on BGG covering this: www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1039297/event-card-remove-cubes

[@Nirvezz]

15:37 I believe you forgot to draw infection cards. You got too excited over what the next character will do

[@remyscreepycorner5135]

I know I’m seven years late to the party but man was this helpful

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

3:27 not entirely sure but it shows the black cubes from the bottom Left circle to top right on in the the lab board in the square on the arrow I'm not entirely sure but just checking because it shows all colours everywhere else

[@pattyluss]

I really love your run-throughs. Thank you so much, keep em coming!

[@PauloRenato23]

At 12:20, is there a reason why you put the Red cube in the dish with the Blue one? Couldn't you put it with the yellow ones and later move them as they are needed for the same cure? I ask because this way you will need 2 actions to move the yellow cubes and the red cubes and if they were in the same dish you'd only need 1 action to move them... Is this right? I'm just thinking because I haven't played In the Lab and haven't read the rules and because you didn't mention why you put the red in the dish with the blue I was wondering if you were forced to do it

[@PauloRenato23]

You answered the putting cubes in a dish question around minute 20:00 :p

[@PauloRenato23]

At 15:35 You store another yellow cube in the dish, I have to ask why, you already have the yellow cubes you need to cure both diseases you have in the lab so why put more cubes there? aren't they going to waste when you advance them and have no where to put them? Again this is me just trying to understand some moves because I haven't played the game and don't know the rules... so what you're doing may be awesome moves but at this point I'm not getting it :p

[@8bitRambler]

I’ve watched quite a few of your playthroughs and love how you explain everything, but one question I have is, who’s Jen, she always had cards and played turns with you but I only ever see you?? Is Jen imaginary to show it played by two?

[@rahdo]

check faq.rahdo.com #1 for the answer :)

[@8bitRambler]

@@rahdo that's awesome mate, and Jens jewellery that she makes is amazing!! love those Pandemic germ pieces!!

[@kaylapoindexter506]

I have a question with the Sequence cards. Example: If it has 3 red, 1 yellow, and 2 grey, and you characterized it as red, would you put 5 red and 1 yellow instead of 3 & 3?

[@rahdo]

that's exactly right! if you had characterized it with a yellow card, then the two greys "become yellow" and you'd have to do 3 and 3 :)

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

Ok final one at 15:26 if San Paulo were to outbreak would u place yellow in Milan or blue

[@energyrockstargames]

Hi, is it possible to use with 10 aniversary edition? Because yesterday I bought that amazing version in discount but now I think that I can't buy expansion: ANother questiom, this expansion introduce solo mode? Because I read something in the game description of an italian store abount solitary mode

[@rahdo]

yup, there are rules for solo, and you can definitely use the lab stuff for the 10th anniversary edition. the only problem would be the 3 new event cards have different backs, so you'd have an idea when they're coming in the deck, and you'd need to use opaque sleeves to avoid seeing them coming. but it's just 3 event cards, not that big a deal.

[@energyrockstargames]

@@rahdo thanks!!! And is the same for the Emergency state? Because I want to buy that two xpansion for the base game

[@rahdo]

@@energyrockstargames it's pretty much the same thing. emergency has 25 different new cards that can go in the player deck depending on how you set stuff up, so you'll definitely want to have solid colored cards sleeves so you can't see the different cards coming (or instead, you can draw from the bottom of the deck instead of the top of the deck, i suppose :) of course, for both emergency and lab, the side boards have a different art style too, but functionally that doesn't' affect anything

[@energyrockstargames]

@@rahdo thanks! You really help me, because I read a lots different things and I'm not soo good in understanding writed english. But you explain that very cleary. Now I can't waste the money. The important thing is that I can use all things togheter despite the little differences in design. Have a nice day!

[@cinesos77]

36:30 Jane test the cure after all cubes needed are in the sequence card for red disease. You don't need to wait till all cubes are in the card, do you? according to the rulebook once you have 1 cube in the card you can test the cure, isn´t? (page 5 top). But for me wait till all cubes are placed makes more sense thematically. How you guys play this?

[@PauloRenato23]

you don't need to wait to teste it... if you have at least one cube on the card you can test it

[@NYsummertimeCHI]

At 58:15 you test the blue cure and then you forget to remove the disease from the test subjects you gave the cure to! Also, where did you put the Chicago card? At the end of the video only the Toronto card is there in the spot for Characterising a disease.

[@PauloRenato23]

Nicholas Yager Hi, I'm sorry but I don't understand what Richard was suppose to do that he didn't... can you please make a more detailed explanation so I can make a note? Thanks

[@jwspiker]

thanks for this, in the lab is now on my wish list

[@JoostN86]

Where did you get those nice glass vials? They didn't come with the game right?

[@rahdo]

the little bottle things? they come with the "in the lab" expansion :)

[@JoostN86]

***** Really? I thought Jen might have made them as well. They seem too premium for this game. I've got to get this game now. :) Thanks for your reply, love your videos!

[@limplamp6692]

Hi, So did you find out about that last rule? Do the infection cards of eradicated viruses get reshuffled into the deck or do they get removed from the game?

[@rahdo]

nope, once they're gone they're gone!

[@Swede1066]

@@rahdo I'm pretty sure the Infection cards don't get removed from the game when you draw one that's been eradicated. They continue to go to the discard pile. In the 2nd Edition rulebook, in the example on page 6, it says, "The red disease is eradicated, so Anna simply discards the Seoul card."

[@chocoboblue99]

One of the very last things you did was cure yellow disease. Then, you used your Medic to walk over to the other yellow cities and "remove" all the cubes from those cities. When you used the medic to '"remove" cubes like this, it is NOT considered treating a diseases. If you read the Medic role card carefully, it says "remove", and NOT treat all diseases in those cities. So, you can't take a cube and put them in the lab. The ability acts exactly the same way as the Containment Specialist ability, and he not allowed to do that either. This is explained by the creator in this form: boardgamegeek.com/thread/1094052/roles-cures-and-the-lab-challenge

[@rahdo]

Thanks a lot for the info... Note added

[@Nirvezz]

Good info. Thanks on clarification about the two meanings.

[@rexross1461]

I thought, and please correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought the In the Lab expansion had to have the On the Brink expansion as well to play?

[@rahdo]

Rex Kross nope, on the brink & in the lab are totally separate, and there's no interdependency between them at all :)

[@kitteaux1773]

***** actually there is. in the lab comes with the worldwide panic scenario which you need 24 purple cubes to use. In the lab only comes with 12. You need the other 12 from on the brink to be able to use it.

[@rahdo]

Braden Kitto hmm, i don't know... yes, there's a minor variant within the ItL expansion that requires a handful more cubes, which you could get from any number of places, or use any number of other stand-ins... so i'm not sure it's necessary to pay $30 to buy the OtB expansion just to get those 12 purple cubes :)

[@ClaireMichelle101]

oh & do you have a link to the side you can find/get the glass playing peaces please?

[@rahdo]

+ClaireMichelle101 you can check jen out at www.jenefer.net :)

[@ClaireMichelle101]

+rahdo thankyou so much for both your replys and your helpful videos! :-)

[@spacekookierandoms]

rahdo can you still do discover the Cure action the the original way with 5 cards even if you are playing in the lab?

[@ko9]

Being on mobile I can't see if you've already added this comment, but eradicated disease cards do stay in according to the manual. They are simply ignored when drawn :-) Btw, any chance I'll run into you at Spiel this year? I'll probably go there for my first time this year, seems like a fun event :-)

[@rahdo]

yeah, I don't know why i was thinking the other thing! momentary brain freeze! probably will be at essen this year, yes :)

[@St4shkin]

Just letting you know you've got a typo in the title (gamePlay) :) Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your runthroughs!

[@MunchhausenPL]

16:45 - you forgot to take 2 infection cards.

[@rahdo]

good eye! note added :)

[@taysand]

Off topic question: What does he mean when he refers to Jen(Gen?) making a particular play during a turn? Is it Gen, as in a hypothetical Generated Player?

[@rahdo]

faq.rahdo.com #1 :)

[@GretSeat]

around 16:59 (a little before it) you forgot to draw infection cards! :(

[@PauloRenato23]

+Garrett Stewart (GretSeat) it was already noted... thanks

[@Devotee110]

You could use the other side of the Petri dish on the lab expansion for the researchcubes. Looks nicer.

[@rahdo]

Sebastian S nice idea!

[@TheCart54321]

11:00 whoa what kind of bottle/token is that

[@rahdo]

those came with the first printing of pandemic on the brink. not sure if they come in the new version

[@ClaireMichelle101]

Do you take the eradicated colour cards out then? thanks so much this helped so so much.... cant wait to own my own pandemic & in the lab set! :-)

[@rahdo]

+ClaireMichelle101 they stay in the deck. and you can breath a sign of relief every time you draw one because it means nothing bad happens :)

[@Svaltz]

+rahdo That really shouldnt be the rules. Cause flipping the cards means time is passing. And the viruses are always more prowned to spread as time goes by. Besides the fact that nothing happens makes the game a lot more easier to beat.

[@rahdo]

+Yei Jung Kong it's part of the balance of the game... the longer it goes, the more the viruses get ahead of the players, by design. so to smooth that out, there's also a greater chance that you'll get a lucky draw to buy you more time. quite brilliant actually...

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

10:34 did draw second player card

[@zuo-yangchan5156]

Is it compulsory to buy On The Brink expansion before playing In The Lab?.Love your channel!

[@rahdo]

not at all!

[@zuo-yangchan5156]

@@rahdo thanks for the reply!

[@kevinjohnsonsieman8490]

could you give me the example how to "fly" pilot role works ?

[@rahdo]

you simply never spend cards to move. instead every action point you spend moving lets you jump up to 3 cities from where you currently are. and if someone is on the same space as you when you hop, you can pick them up and bring them with you.

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

36:34 third action Jen can freely test a cure

[@danlewis1885]

He realized it a minute later

[@psuggitt]

Moscow didn't require a cube when Bagdad had an outbreak. (Approx 53:00.)

[@rahdo]

oops! note added :)

[@KMReviews]

At around 40:00 couldn’t he have used rapid vaccine deployment to get rid of the bulk of the red in connected cities?

[@PauloRenato23]

yes... he could've used it there but that would mean he would get rid of at most 3 red cubes, the ones in Manila and Hong Kong because, like you said it would have to be in connected cities, so he would be wasting getting 2 mor cubes of the board because that event can remove up to 5 cubes

[@Chyron8472]

You should label this Runthrough as Part 2. Part 1 has the same title and so is confusing when searching KZbin for it.

[@rahdo]

Chyron8472 part 1 is just a pandemic runthrough, while this one is just an in-the-lab runthrough, so i figured it made more sense this way

[@danlewis1885]

It's Sao Paulo, not San Paulo. You do NOT remove infection cards for eradicated diseases, they are free passes when they get shuffled and put back on top of the infection deck.

[@rahdo]

yup, i don't know what i was thinking! :)

[@PauloRenato23]

At 10:20 you forgot to see what the second card was after the Epidemic... I know it's probably not an issue and that you'll realize it when it comes to your turn again, but it could have been another Epidemic :p

[@rahdo]

you never know! note added :)

[@ko9]

Whoa, I was about to comment that you should really know where Essen was, but then I saw that according to this board it actually *is* in southern Norway :-P

[@rahdo]

if you look closely at the board, there's actually arrows from the city circles pointing on the map where the city is in real life :)

[@ko9]

That's actually pretty nice, was really confused why they wouldn't just pick a city like Oslo if they needed a city there.. But this way it doesn't really matter :-)

[@JohnCarbone75]

I'm sure you've figured it out by now, but when using the Rapid Vaccine Deployment, the 5 cubes removed have to be in connected cities. Great job though, handling the camera and doing the run-thorough.

[@PauloRenato23]

John Carbone it was already noted :) Thanks

[@stevens5181]

53 min you put a black on moscow but the outbreak doesn't get to there

[@twjennyb]

Thank you for the overview, the written instructions were hard to understand😀, keep curing😷

[@ko9]

Around the 53 minute mark, you add a black to Moscow, but it's not connected to Baghdad ;-)

[@rahdo]

good spotting! note added :)

[@Chaaber]

Around minute 17:00 you forgot to draw infection cards.

[@rahdo]

yup, note added :)

[@stevens5181]

you took one action to many with jen at around 22 min even when you redid her actions, cause she build the research station as one action the action starts around 17 min you build one researchstation

[@rahdo]

oops good catch! note added :)

[@Vicks369]

doesnt your arm get tired...sheesh!! awesome reviews by the way!!

[@rahdo]

+Vic Fontaine it does actually :)

[@bennyboi2077]

8:24 . . .

[@trek98597]

My name is Dr. Mark. I am here to help. I thought we had a talk about you talking too fast. First of all, get a decalf coffee, and no sugar for you either, I'm getting worried about you stroking out 1/2 way through your directions. Take a deep breath, now start to explain the games. I know you can do it. I'll be watching and rooting for you. Take it easy....no really, please do.

[@rahdo]

i only drink water, fyi

[@trek98597]

rahdo I still think you have a lot of energy, and are a very positive person. Hope you are not offended by my observations you're a very cool person keep up the good work

[@CrazyHippo]

Looks like Heroes wanted is next.

[@rahdo]

spooon!

[@mirczefski]

In around 17 minutes of the video (Your turn) I think You forgot to draw an Infection Cards :)

[@rahdo]

good catch! note added :)

[@djkretz]

I love Pandemic but I prefer On the Brink to In the Lab

[@thewanderer9371]

You don't take out the cards of eradicated virus, you just ignore them. If you do, it would increase the virus spread for other colors by a lot and would not gain an advantage on the game.

[@rahdo]

yeah, i have no idea why i was thinking that! thanks :)

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

Nvm last post I was wrong

[@cameronlemermeyer7294]

Nvm u figured it out

[@zapit24]

he fucked up a few times he missed an outbreak at the start and cheated in eradicating yellow...

[@arispsaltis8107]

moscow is a little far from bagdad

[@sroyal76]

OMG I watched for 30 seconds and got sick. Slow down the movement of your camera and stop shoving the cards in front of the camera. Talk a little slower...well a lot slower.

[@rahdo]

check the shownotes for a link to static cam version. and as for speed, you can set youtube to .75 speed :)

[@rahdo]

oh wait, nope. this is a REALLY old video (like one of the first 100 i did... i'm up to 1400 games filmed now, and i didn't start doing static cam options until around video #200)