Panel discussion on President Ramaphosa farm theft saga

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@ronm4385
@ronm4385 2 жыл бұрын
The ALTA woman couldn't even contain herself in defending Cyril. She went straight on the offensive 😂😂😂
@stolenlegacy2617
@stolenlegacy2617 2 жыл бұрын
You would swear she's Ramaphosa defense attorney already
@chiefer1325
@chiefer1325 2 жыл бұрын
Because she knows that there is a ploy to derail state capture project.... Arthur Fraser is simply trying his best...he failed to act 2yrs ago...why now???
@Mr300568
@Mr300568 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes that was my immediate reaction. Our mainstream media is an embarrassment with these so called analysts who are clearly factional
@tlorisontlai8758
@tlorisontlai8758 2 жыл бұрын
So blatant, she sound like she is on Brief for his client lol
@mkhonzamlungelo8482
@mkhonzamlungelo8482 2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t bother to answer the question and went straight to defence mode😂
@muzinkosi3853
@muzinkosi3853 2 жыл бұрын
Ramaphosa is sooooo lucky to have people backing him at all costs.
@mbhekitembe2179
@mbhekitembe2179 2 жыл бұрын
I predict lots of "pies in the face" of many; just give them several months and you will see an exodus of ship jumping.
@muzinkosi3853
@muzinkosi3853 2 жыл бұрын
True that the reason why Africa is not prosperous is because we blindly love our leaders.
@sollynkadimeng3091
@sollynkadimeng3091 2 жыл бұрын
So is every politician....remember nkandla saga? This one is no different.....they're laughing at us fighting each
@sollynkadimeng3091
@sollynkadimeng3091 2 жыл бұрын
If most of us can stop taking bullshit from politicians..vote with our conscience ...then this country will be better for us all ....
@mbhekitembe2179
@mbhekitembe2179 2 жыл бұрын
@@sollynkadimeng3091 Exactly!
@masixolesizani2895
@masixolesizani2895 2 жыл бұрын
These bias fools never suspect any foul play when allegations were levelled against Zuma why are they not asking Ramaphosa for not opening a case?
@tlorisontlai8758
@tlorisontlai8758 2 жыл бұрын
Its embarrasing man.
@mongisimsibi6712
@mongisimsibi6712 2 жыл бұрын
This Staphanie lady is a joke. She’s in love with Cyril. 😂😂😂
@tlangelaningobeni8924
@tlangelaningobeni8924 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they dating
@mallimapengu5412
@mallimapengu5412 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie Stephanie🤣🤣🤣🤣
@song4night
@song4night 2 жыл бұрын
she's probably paid off.
@keabetswetjale7959
@keabetswetjale7959 2 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell : We are not equal before the law, some are more equal than others . 🙏
@selebogosegatlaka4190
@selebogosegatlaka4190 2 жыл бұрын
This anchor is not asking the right questions and is not playing devils advocate.
@mhlomuli9957
@mhlomuli9957 2 жыл бұрын
Sitting president deserves some kind of respect my foot. What did you do to Zuma. Sukani bo. Double standards indeed.
@Mr300568
@Mr300568 2 жыл бұрын
Who has been found guilty of state capture? The finding by the Zonfo comission is by no means a guilty verdict by the court of law. Let's wait for LOTS of investigation into state capture as well. The Glencore issue was not even entertained by the Zonfo comission
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 2 жыл бұрын
Because it implecated Ramaphosa
@ericlara4252
@ericlara4252 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 The Outa lady killed me trying to twist the facts.
@ekim996
@ekim996 2 жыл бұрын
She is clearly a lost soul looking for love or something-OUTA needs to protect their reputation-does she not know the police hawks & SIU report to "the president"
@thabi_d
@thabi_d 2 жыл бұрын
I remember saying South Africa is Cyril's farm; it turns out I was not wrong 🤷🏾‍♀️.
@Nikolizky
@Nikolizky 2 жыл бұрын
The white lady has a huge crush on Cyril.
@izzygalela7984
@izzygalela7984 2 жыл бұрын
The 1st thing the white lady does, is go all in defence mode😂😂😂😂
@musamkhize9328
@musamkhize9328 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing suspicious here Ramaposa must step down.
@mhlomuli9957
@mhlomuli9957 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a group of people singing a song and "toytoying" for the first time singing "Zuma must fall, Zuma must fall". Can someone assemble that group please. I want to see something.😂😂😂
@chiefer1325
@chiefer1325 2 жыл бұрын
It's not going to happen....he did not misuse/steal the state money. Zuma was stealing from government. Cyril did not.. Its something else
@mhlomuli9957
@mhlomuli9957 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefer1325 failing to declare to SARS is direct theft. Failing to report foreign trade at that level is money laundering, and always leads to defrauding SARS. Maybe you don't understand the amount of money involved here. US$4million. Thats actually ZAR64million. I bet you this is not the only amount that has been traded or has passed through this man's hands right now. And about 28% should belong to SARS. Picture it and Consider it. It's an ANC habit.
@darlingtonmachilar6745
@darlingtonmachilar6745 2 жыл бұрын
We are all equal before the law. The president should have respected himself by not committing crimes
@davidmotlaloe5628
@davidmotlaloe5628 2 жыл бұрын
Heresay crime yes
@archienyingwa5274
@archienyingwa5274 2 жыл бұрын
What crime the Prisident committed, he never stollen any Tax payer money he is a victim here.
@song4night
@song4night 2 жыл бұрын
the one guy's head seems chopped up?
@sandilendzakana748
@sandilendzakana748 2 жыл бұрын
She says she has not heard such a lot of hearsay in while but she talks about State capture of which a lot of things presented there was a whole lot of hearsay mxcm these people
@cooldavinci6358
@cooldavinci6358 2 жыл бұрын
The only people who are in trouble right now are those who think soberly, who can see through all these Ramaphosa's tactics, but are powerless, as it seems, unintelligent SAns are out numbering them!
@calvinpurdy2668
@calvinpurdy2668 2 жыл бұрын
Well if it depends on the quality of a police investigation, I predict Ramaphosa will walk away scott free
@josiahmanganyi5359
@josiahmanganyi5359 2 жыл бұрын
The EFF will do what they did to Zuma until the ANC force him to resign!If I was him I was going to resign before even waiting for investigation!
@ngobese265
@ngobese265 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 hai hai Stephanie, clearly loves the President she isn't willing to call him out on this issue!
@nelsonbokas990
@nelsonbokas990 2 жыл бұрын
Bosasa, Glencore and now millions of possible corruption, tax aviation,money laundering etc
@Mr300568
@Mr300568 2 жыл бұрын
Add CR17 bank statements
@368400368400
@368400368400 2 жыл бұрын
Marikana
@idopov3779
@idopov3779 2 жыл бұрын
This is pathetic, to say the least. She is waffling away.
@makwenakgafe4609
@makwenakgafe4609 2 жыл бұрын
With Zuma no one waited for the law to take it's course. Everyone jumped the gun on speculation. Up to today State Capture report does not implicate Zuma
@thekothamaga9970
@thekothamaga9970 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the ANC politics is becoming crystal to most of us. Nonetheless, the tragectory set by ANC shouldn't deter how we tackle alleged illegal matters as that will render us shortsighted
@sjaymabaso9391
@sjaymabaso9391 2 жыл бұрын
That lady is really twerking for Cyril ignoring all the evidence and running to state capture
@timmanana8685
@timmanana8685 2 жыл бұрын
Double stds at worst!
@LL2019
@LL2019 2 жыл бұрын
That lady reminds me of the ANC defending Zuma in the past years
@matshidisomarule5357
@matshidisomarule5357 2 жыл бұрын
Those people who saw that in 2020, why did they keep quiet until now? In this country we live in only a few people report crimes to the policy due to the fact that your case won't go any where with our corrupt police force, let the relevant people investigate this properly
@judymsomi2480
@judymsomi2480 2 жыл бұрын
IT RIDICULOUS HOW HASTY PEOPLE BECOME, WITHOUT ANY TANGIBLE EVIDENCE.
@fanamlawuli6761
@fanamlawuli6761 2 жыл бұрын
There is enough facts as we speak
@tlangelaningobeni8924
@tlangelaningobeni8924 2 жыл бұрын
Are u well upsatairs
@mukodoborijakafiriri8698
@mukodoborijakafiriri8698 2 жыл бұрын
If it was Zuma the Outa advocate would have said yes he must step down without a second thought
@nomfunekonosilela3895
@nomfunekonosilela3895 2 жыл бұрын
Yho the president admitted there was a robbery, so why did he not report the crime?
@selebogosegatlaka4190
@selebogosegatlaka4190 2 жыл бұрын
And why doesn't he open up his business books for scrutiny? Where is the proof of payment from the clients?
@mukodoborijakafiriri8698
@mukodoborijakafiriri8698 2 жыл бұрын
How did the police come on the scene without a report does it make this even worse?
@xolanikhumalo3588
@xolanikhumalo3588 2 жыл бұрын
I hope president Ramaphoso to be honest with us poor south Africa's
@sibongozulu1185
@sibongozulu1185 2 жыл бұрын
This women come back to earth… she’s got no clue whatsoever….
@thabi_d
@thabi_d 2 жыл бұрын
The first two panelists are known to be Rama's fans so their comments are not surprising.
@macmandla3582
@macmandla3582 2 жыл бұрын
Did she call herself an Activist my word these people will say anything and do anything to protect Rama their stogie
@makhosazanamngomezulu7519
@makhosazanamngomezulu7519 2 жыл бұрын
speechless
@nomvuyogaqela2442
@nomvuyogaqela2442 2 жыл бұрын
Mr president step aside this is not a joke respect people of South Africa don't take them for granted
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 2 жыл бұрын
Who has confidence in the ANC integrity committee? 🤷👎
@izeesh
@izeesh 2 жыл бұрын
"We are activists, that why we don't get involved in politics" talk about an oxymoron of the millennium, especially for a legal representative of OUTA the same group that was vocal in the previous regime. Tshuuuu!!!! this country is in trouble. Where is the Helen Suzman, De Klerk, Freedom Under Law Foundations and the Johan Kriegler's now
@thembanimgenu190
@thembanimgenu190 2 жыл бұрын
The sitting president should respect himself first, by the way where is the saying respect is earned? Investigations is what the Hawks/Police will do, of course the complaint can't be taken as gospel truth. The president should adhere to the rules, regulations or even laws of the country, him being president is big enough to uphold, respect and defend the constitution but not being beyond scrutiny as the lady wants us to believe. Am not interested in the Gupta story, am not sure why may be because those within the country who have been reported to be architects of State aren't even out on bail, am talking Koko, Molefe etc.
@koortjasoubas5128
@koortjasoubas5128 2 жыл бұрын
Respect for an ANC president is playing with your expectations.
@matlhoachipa1895
@matlhoachipa1895 2 жыл бұрын
Ramaphosa need to step aside for the law to take its course. Not guilty until proven guilty, yes we all agree with this, but for the mere fact that he is the president of the ANC not to mention the whole country of South Africa, how about he respect the office that he is occupying and just say, "Let me step aside for the investigation to continue so that those in involved in investigating must not look biased because he's a President then police and those involved in the investigation must be free to do so. That's my take Leadership. ALUTHA ✊
@khayalethu5734
@khayalethu5734 2 жыл бұрын
THEY LOVE DEFENDING HIM
@chiefer1325
@chiefer1325 2 жыл бұрын
The project to deal with corruption will be derailed, challenged & mocked by those who have a lit to loose. Ramaphosa must not stop fighting corruption
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 2 жыл бұрын
Would someone like Ramaphosa seriously hide cash in a couch ? 🤔
@mhlongosandile6435
@mhlongosandile6435 2 жыл бұрын
What are these people smoking?🤭😲
@crude-za
@crude-za 2 жыл бұрын
Should Ramaphosa recuse himself coz his farm was robbed? That simply does not make sense. Unless you say he stole from the public on a separate matter
@njakajohannes7519
@njakajohannes7519 2 жыл бұрын
Stop being small minded, 1st offend he kept a large amount of money in his farm in a foreign currency and that is against the law, he said that money was for business transactions the question is do SARS know about those transactions for tax purposes
@crude-za
@crude-za 2 жыл бұрын
@@njakajohannes7519 , how much was that large amount and where is the proof of that large amount of money? So if you do not know whether SARS knows or not, what is the crime you are pointing to? I have money in foreign currency that i collected from my travels, do you think that is a crime too? Is the amounts of money i have in foreign currency "large" enough according to your sources?
@njakajohannes7519
@njakajohannes7519 2 жыл бұрын
@@crude-za if you have a larger amount of money in your house as you claim yes it's a crime if the authority not aware of. Check sars and sarb act bra and stop being exposing the size of your brain
@crude-za
@crude-za 2 жыл бұрын
@@njakajohannes7519 , lol, who said SARS (relevant authorities) does not know about the money I have? See how small your thinking capacity is?
@njakajohannes7519
@njakajohannes7519 2 жыл бұрын
@@crude-za if you have any other income you must reveal it to sars for tax purposes bra
@brianmubanga3508
@brianmubanga3508 2 жыл бұрын
OLTA " we are not talking at any other person" so how should other people be dealt with.
@sizwemnguni2740
@sizwemnguni2740 2 жыл бұрын
There is this particular view that the ANC NEC will have to recall the president should the investigation process takes more than 90 days.This should be done in order to prevent delay strategies as in delaying investigation reporting and most importantly criminally charging which would obviously mean stepping ASIDE or DOWN for that matter.
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 2 жыл бұрын
Wow she's trying so hard to protect the president lol,wow
@philanintuli9880
@philanintuli9880 2 жыл бұрын
Yhoo this video tells you that the ANC is being controlled by external forces. This particular President is serving the interests of those forces. moreover abelungu bayasikwayela. Now they talking about hard evidence and respecting the sitting president nx
@leratomrali6964
@leratomrali6964 2 жыл бұрын
I thought we were all equal in the eyes of the law , sitting president or not
@christinefinniss6263
@christinefinniss6263 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Stefanie Fick. Why only now by Arthur ? . Who trusts Arthur Frazer ?
@lewatleboitumelomatebele6328
@lewatleboitumelomatebele6328 2 жыл бұрын
Mafia's in one word, that's ANC
@silindiledladla5737
@silindiledladla5737 2 жыл бұрын
These are all allegations, lets wait for the law to take it course
@zaxes9470
@zaxes9470 2 жыл бұрын
this lady from OUTA🤣🤣🤣
@josiahmanganyi5359
@josiahmanganyi5359 2 жыл бұрын
It is now time for the NPA and the courts to crack the whip do that whoever is going to follow him must respect the position and people of SA!He must not duck and dive like Zuma!Not even the minister of police knows about this robbery?Funny how Fraser kept quiet and reported this before the December conference?Is it not also defeating the end of justice?Fraser is also going to be charged here!
@siradjaadamoumoussa2939
@siradjaadamoumoussa2939 2 жыл бұрын
You must figth any forme of corruption if u are just but u can try people in political meaner.shame
@siradjaadamoumoussa2939
@siradjaadamoumoussa2939 2 жыл бұрын
You must figth any forme of corruption if u are just but u can try people in political meaner.shame
@chesneymashaba7299
@chesneymashaba7299 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie is outa her mind
@sanelekhulaphi1007
@sanelekhulaphi1007 2 жыл бұрын
Some animals are more equal than others, as far as Auto is concerned. I would like to see the president resigning and allow the country to go for early national general elections so that Herman Mashaba can take his rightful place as a deserving President of South Africa under the true Government of the National Unity. "Akukhonto ingenasiphelo kuzo zonke ezisemhlabeni"
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 2 жыл бұрын
My goodness, why is the ALTA woman defend Zuma like she defends Ramaphosa. This is totally dishonest, SOUTH AFRICA is ufkced!
@bonganitshabalala4966
@bonganitshabalala4966 2 жыл бұрын
Shame this country is full of hipocrits, from all organizations. Looking back on how Zuma was treated everytime we heard something, which by the way he deserved, is just embarrassing. Media and all this other groups the favour this sitting president who has brought nothing but more poverty to the black majority of this country. He must just step aside and deal with his mafiarism,mxm. Lol "Phakama DD Mabuza,ixesha lifikile".. don't get sick ke wena we know u phela😂😂
@victormulaudzi9474
@victormulaudzi9474 2 жыл бұрын
Advocate really now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...I give up!!!
@nelsonsonJackson
@nelsonsonJackson 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough policemen🙄mxm this lady shame
@Dukejhb
@Dukejhb 2 жыл бұрын
Give her a time limit!
@muzinkosi3853
@muzinkosi3853 2 жыл бұрын
Wow........
@NazFx30
@NazFx30 2 жыл бұрын
He breaks the law but nothing happens to him
@rodneygosmusicmasemola7258
@rodneygosmusicmasemola7258 2 жыл бұрын
What about EFF leaders and VBS saga
@ezekielmfati1530
@ezekielmfati1530 2 жыл бұрын
Is she really a legal Practitioner?
@mukodoborijakafiriri8698
@mukodoborijakafiriri8698 2 жыл бұрын
Now the lady talks about Guptas instead of the topic lol
@xolanibuthelezi193
@xolanibuthelezi193 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Ramaphosa does for whites , they defend him at all cost
@thabo2606
@thabo2606 2 жыл бұрын
Their own is in trouble they have to do what they know best , defend CR
@waltervetri2476
@waltervetri2476 2 жыл бұрын
Serious or not serious due process, rule of law must prevail. Why is there a conspicuous silence on what happened in the Constutional with Mr Zuma? Even a bomb or firecracker lasts for a while. Then the dust settles all forgotten. Be fair to the President. 🇿🇦🙏Vetri EC
@Ambassador-Leaba
@Ambassador-Leaba 2 жыл бұрын
This white lady is a shame!!
@mduduzimbonxa2135
@mduduzimbonxa2135 2 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from racists who love Ramaphosa
@siphosakhemajola9136
@siphosakhemajola9136 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointing from the lady very low😢
@petermoema5447
@petermoema5447 2 жыл бұрын
Leave Cyril alone with his money, we have more serious issues to deal with
@jessicadunu6335
@jessicadunu6335 2 жыл бұрын
People are crazy here.
@josiahmanganyi5359
@josiahmanganyi5359 2 жыл бұрын
It is money laundering!
@TlhakisiM
@TlhakisiM 2 жыл бұрын
Peter do you understand politics?do you know money is supposed to be declared@sars and crime to the police! Ramaphosa is a president not a private citizen? By the look at your statement, you are just politically naive?
@sandilendzakana748
@sandilendzakana748 2 жыл бұрын
This woman an advocate????
@tlangelaningobeni8924
@tlangelaningobeni8924 2 жыл бұрын
Is this is Stephanie Lady well upstairs3
@siviwepetse2783
@siviwepetse2783 2 жыл бұрын
These women yerr , unbelievable
@imasinnerwholovesGod
@imasinnerwholovesGod 2 жыл бұрын
Where is save SA
@itsnotoveryetngcofe6919
@itsnotoveryetngcofe6919 2 жыл бұрын
Ramaphosa spiners
@ninanins6711
@ninanins6711 2 жыл бұрын
Singing for their supper.
@azokuhlemanyoni3240
@azokuhlemanyoni3240 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the sabc news bringing in those that defend Ramaphosa? This woman is already defending Ramaphosa. Sabc you are so biased
@silindiledladla5737
@silindiledladla5737 2 жыл бұрын
Only Zulu people speak nonsense, they do not think
@musawenkosiabrahamngubane9173
@musawenkosiabrahamngubane9173 2 жыл бұрын
Ashoka Mr.President,bakulayila labantu bangaphandle owawubaqashile bakuntshontshela ngoba ngabe asazi ngalokhu. You pretend to be so concerned about unemployment in our country,yet you outsourced foreigners to you employ. Sir.i trusted you so much,i thought you were the one for this country which is mired in corruption. But now with so many revelations i have lost all trust in,you portray and characterize yourself as a person who upholds the law,but you are the one who breaks it. I thought you will remedy our economy by being honest,but you at a fake president and you have instilled this idear that corruption is in the Anc DNA.
@abongilenonkelela7726
@abongilenonkelela7726 2 жыл бұрын
😮 listen to white people defend Ramaphosa like crazy 😅😅😅
@sandilendzakana748
@sandilendzakana748 2 жыл бұрын
Mxcm I'm stopping now can't keep watching this nonsense
@briannobin5437
@briannobin5437 2 жыл бұрын
Audi alteram partem - waiting for the President's version. It's folly to pre-judge him on the basis of what his distractors say. His enemies are having a field day.
@jabusimelane4483
@jabusimelane4483 2 жыл бұрын
The lady it seems like uthengiwe by the way she speak
@thepatriot234
@thepatriot234 2 жыл бұрын
Shameful journalism and rubbish commentary. Hearsay vs admission by President what is that?
@xolanimahlinza7396
@xolanimahlinza7396 2 жыл бұрын
To allow the investigation, the big man must take a special leave, whatever you wanna call it.
@tumelobrales6074
@tumelobrales6074 2 жыл бұрын
scam of a OUTA chick lol
@fabrigus6405
@fabrigus6405 2 жыл бұрын
Ramaphosa intimate partner this Fick
@bhekanishandu7396
@bhekanishandu7396 2 жыл бұрын
Tjo this ALTA woman ayi ayi!
@moneymanincash6816
@moneymanincash6816 2 жыл бұрын
Fck SABC nizwa ngabelungu msunu yenu
@aquarius1500
@aquarius1500 2 жыл бұрын
someone planted him he is passionate about his cattle farm I never knew he has a game farm and who walks around in a game farm unless he is gonna hunt 🤔 😏 mxm
@boitumeloboitumelo2451
@boitumeloboitumelo2451 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂bias bad leads xem on them
@thabo2606
@thabo2606 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@silindiledladla5737
@silindiledladla5737 2 жыл бұрын
Bahlezi befaka leli clown elu Zuma makukhulunywa
@tlorisontlai8758
@tlorisontlai8758 2 жыл бұрын
This panel tell you about the triacameral system. Where apartheid had whites on the top and the Indians and so called colours in the middle and us. Here that layer is there to defend the constructed President. Lol. Safafrika. Lol
@zanonzimande3099
@zanonzimande3099 2 жыл бұрын
Wat a dum advocate!!!....
@judymsomi2480
@judymsomi2480 2 жыл бұрын
GIVE THE PRESIDENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE RATIONALE, MORE THAN BEING SO HASTY.
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