Does God Exist? What Is a Woman? Dinesh D'Souza @dineshdsouza vs Matt Dillahunty @SansDeity

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[@missshroom5512]

Please this is awesome conversation 👍🏼

[@justaguy6100]

Ok for ME, the issue with voters who are motivated by their religious beliefs is, they often feel that they have to insensate those beliefs into everyone else's lives. Hence regardless of their own feeling about a decision like the need to terminate a pregnancy, they just can't help themselves insisting that they remove the option from everyone. But of course this also extends to allowing religious beliefs to creep into schools, OR having outrageous messianic or prophetic beliefs ABOUT a candidate overwhelm their rational thinking so they continue to vote against their best interests. An example is paid family leave, which SHOULD be a popular issue for anyone who considers themselves "pro family" yet they vote for someone who's completely opposed to ANY such worker benefit because they feel that person is "sent by god."

[@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461]

I don't think you could be 100% about knowing something. Are you 100% about knowing that?

[@justaguy6100]

@alvarovargasbag What are you referring to here? Lacks context, my friend.

[@3sc4p1sm]

but he is a busy body when it comes to making rational evidential facts about reality when it comes to christians

[@vichomangiola]

I never thought I would prefer a debate with Jordan Peterson.

[@laynicarter]

This comment is underrated.

[@chrishead02]

Their debate was fire.

[@Bech285]

Yeah, I like Jordan Peterson most of the time, but not in that debate. Still that was more fun than this. Seems like Dinesh constantly tries to change Matt's mind without even considering he might be wrong.

[@douglasrasmussen480]

When evangelicals and other far right offal believe D'Souza is an intellectual leader, it says all that needs to be known about the intellectual poverty of those people.

[@TBOTSS]

MATT "Help me, help me atheist community - Dinesh is kicking my butt". At least Matt did not run away this time.

[@spinnwebe_]

Man I love listening to a person be calmly reasonable and correct in the face of someone being illogical. I could fall asleep to this.

[@spinnwebe_]

Though having said that, watching his call in show where he snaps at people and calls them stupid has been really disappointing

[@infamousted4960]

Although I do agree... I feel that it was wasted time. Usually, both sides have good pionts.

[@jordanhinderliter3784]

@@spinnwebe_while it does bug me how he gets sometimes, I also understand that he has been doing call in shows for many years, and people do not listen to the questions being asked. It isn’t their show and they should be able to listen and follow discussion.

[@NoBS249]

Agreed. He’s a bit of a grumpy old man. And mean. But his message is important

[@spinnwebe_]

@@jordanhinderliter3784 yeah I don’t doubt it can be soul sucking. But it also means I’m sad that I thought I found a rational voice I could add a to my viewing rotation and he’s just too angry for me to do so

[@BoneFrossil]

Dinesh makes a point, Matt debunks it easily and Dinesh instead of admitting the mistake of his point/example, goes to another example he loses... geez.

[@LordBLB]

Typical of the Religitards... Always moving the goal posts.

[@benb6527]

Dinesh makes a good point that it's irrelevant whether the source is religion or 'rationality.' So if I am against abortion it's okay if it is for a 'rational' reason instead of 'religious'? Who decides that the reason is 'rational'? I am against a ban on abortion, but if a person opposes abortion because they find it gross, who decides if that is rational or not? The correct argument is, the law should prevent individuals from EXPLOITING or ABUSING each other. So we should have gun safety and restrictions to prevent people ABUSING others with guns. Jim Crow laws should be illegal because they exclude a particular group from accessing economic opportunity and therefore they are EXPLOITED. Consumer protection laws exist to prevent individuals from being EXPLOITED by companies. Domestic abuse violence laws exist to protect women and men from being ABUSED by their partners. This is a much better test, because it works for abortion. Is the pregnant woman exploiting or abusing the embryo by abortin git? Perhaps you could argue it is being abused. Is the embryo exploiting or abusing the pregnant woman? Ectopic pregnancies are abuse - such a pregnancy has no viability, it will only harm the mother to continue. Elective abortions are harder, but I still think that the embryo is exploiting the woman to live. Therefore I do think women should have the choice to end a pregnancy. They also have in mind that the child would live a difficult life of abuse or exploitation. And I think this is unfortunately the interest of the state in the embryo- that the government has an interested in creating more people in order to exploit and possibly abuse them. And that it the TOP reason why abortion should be the choice of the woman made in consultation with a medical professional!

[@mrbig99]

@@benb6527You don't know what 'rational' means.

[@benb6527]

@@mrbig99 "You don't know what 'rational' means." Wow, way to take courage and really take a stand here! lol

[@jamesh6966]

Matt debunked nothing. His position is I only belive what's already proven, and I take a neutral position on everything else. Therefore his position is you prove everything and I say "I remain unconvinced " he is an idiot. Matt- " there is a biological difference between men and women " also Matt- " a trans woman is a woman" . Same conversation! Really?

[@Phylaetra]

I notice that D'souza keeps misinterpreting Dillahunty's points. Grossly - to the point that I question whether he is actually debating in good faith.

[@blue5had0w]

Has he done anything in his career in good faith?

[@ChannelMan434]

It’s Dinesh D’Souza, he has never to my knowledge publicly acted in good faith

[@chrismcg69]

I noticed that too. After his bogus ideas about healthcare, I think he is a confidence trickster. I live in the UK where we have the NHS - healthcare we pay through our taxes. It's a wonderful system and people like D'souza terrify us as they would seek to destroy it for profit.

[@jcrodri3]

Dillahunty simply Interrupts when he is not winning , and the virtue signaling is bonkers

[@steveanton763]

Isn't it weird that every single person in the comments disagrees with you? ​@@jcrodri3

[@RR-qf9re]

D’Souza successfully ATTEMPTED each and every logical fallacy hoping Matt would be unfamiliar with ONE

[@BrianFromMaine]

It's like hes playing logical falacy bingo with himself.

[@TBOTSS]

D’Souza won this debate with ease.

[@TBOTSS]

@@William89809 I agree Matt was hammered in this debate. But at least he did better than Daniel Dennett.

[@timkitchen692]

And Matt did the same thing at times. lol It appears Matt actually has blind faith in far more things then D'Souza does. D'souza places his blind faith in religion while Matt places his in in many areas, especially in provably corrupt institutions which cause me to question his claim to be a humanist. Matt doesn't come off as well here as he did with Peterson as that debate stayed far more on the topic of religion which Matt knows best.

[@LanceHall]

Hammed by the inane yapping of D’Souza.

[@coreyv8150]

Dinesh' healthcare position is wrong. Many Americans seem to be under the apprehension that healthcare in especially Europe is free. It is not. Tax is paid for it and in many countries people have to either pay for additional insurance - which is affordable, or have to pay nominal fees for all or some services. I've worked with Americans and I would never want to live in a country where people are treated like they're just customers of anything. The US is the most religious country in the West, yet more of its citizens struggle than people in Europe do.

[@williamsaaranen7672]

Health care would not be expensive if Big Government were not involved.

[@Thegreatesttoneverlive]

Religion has nothing to do with our healthcare

[@terrymckenzie8786]

@@williamsaaranen7672The government does its job collecting taxes for health care, but instead of providing the service, it gives it to insurance companies who raise the costs 1000% . We can have great health care at 20% of the costs we pay.

[@williamsaaranen7672]

@@terrymckenzie8786 I.E. the gooberment getting involved in health care.

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

​@@williamsaaranen7672Why is it the US gov. pays multiple times more for healthcare, than all our countries with "free" taxes paid healthcare ? Even though Americas been suckered by propaganda to talk about "socialism" as if it's a sin 🤦‍♀️, & so makes you pay huge insurance $$$ for it, the US gov. STILL spends more on healthcare than any other country that gives it for "free" from paid taxes.. I am so sorry ( seriously ) Yous have been scammed into believing your way is better/ cheaper/ first-world.. Objectively it is not .. Taxes are meant to be spent on essential services & citizens that need help to keep up.. That's literally what they were invented for.. Because a country/ society doesn't function as well when its services & citizens aren't all able to be a part of helping it thrive.. 🤔 I honestly don't know how anyone who's not a psychopath, can say they won't give a little to ensure needy others get food , water, healthcare, housing etc.. Or that it shouldn't be a basic given right, and only just when you can afford it.. 🤔☮️🌏

[@jafco9]

Why is "where the universe came from" one of the most important questions we can ask? And would we ever get the notion that something happens to us after we die, unless we haven't already made an assumption of a supernatural belief?

[@douglasrasmussen480]

There is very subtle subterfuge in the question of where the universe comes from. Believers are very smug in falsely claiming they have absolute knowledge this was definitively created by god, whereas science takes the position it would like to know but is humble in admitting there are things that are yet unknown. History has not been kind to those believing in the supernatural as science has time and again shown natural causation for that which has previously been assigned as supernatural.

[@scottgrohs5940]

My position is that where tge universe came from is largely irrelevant to my day-to-day life and operations. It’s here and we’re in it. That’s all that counts.

[@mbasacharitythambo1523]

@@scottgrohs5940 thank you

[@DavidSoucie]

D'Souza claiming that there people who don't try and legislate what people can and can't do based on religion is laughable. "Provide one example." How about the politicians who want gay marriage to be illegal because it is immoral? Why is it immoral? Because my book says it's immoral and has said that it is a sin.

[@jorgeacevedo2872]

It's immoral from their purview and they should be allowed to exercise their right to deny marriage to anyone they see fit. The gays can find their own way.

[@elizabethhotaling2151]

D’Souza is the (word) salad that fills you up (aka distracts) so you can’t finish the main course. I was eagerly waiting for Matt to go off like he sometimes does on his podcasts and take control of the conversation. D’Souza is exhausting!

[@MisterG2323]

Yeah, though not as bad as Peterson.

[@TBOTSS]

"is the (word) salad". Perhaps you are too dumb to understand?

[@TBOTSS]

"(word) salad" I think that just shows your lack of understanding beyond a 5th grade level.

[@evanment88]

​​@@TBOTSSfound the DSouza fan

[@TBOTSS]

@@evanment88 am not a D'souza in particular. What is your point. The first poster clearly has some cognitive difficulties.

[@BMoonManIRL]

D'Souza: "Climate science is a multi billion dollar industry!" ... as oppose to fossil fuel, which is literal worth multiple Trillions a year!🥴🤣🤣🤣

[@Person4649Person]

You're right but it's established that fossil fuel can cause pollution, at least locally, if not globally. But certain global bankers, governments, and monopoly capitalists can take advantage of both fossil fuels and green energy initiatives to not only make money, but seize even more power.

[@aicram62]

And he neglects the fact that the polluters have spent tons of money hiding the pollution they were making.

[@Blake4Truth]

Fossil fuel isn’t going anywhere. China is building coal power plants as fast as they can. Less than 5% of their capacity when the sun is shining is from solar.

[@Octavian2]

And now corporations are moving away from fossil fuel for a very specific reason. Spoiler alert. It's not because of the environment

[@bkfitnessandcombatives8658]

That’s because the power output of fossil fuel is an indispensable necessity for modern life to exist. Awkward fact, but absolutely true… 🤣🤣

[@robbie5138]

5:39 Alabama Supreme Court just ruled using the Bible on IVF case. They cited the book of Jeremiah as a reason for their ruling

[@sabin97]

and thus why i call your country usakistan.

[@sixfootoneistall2002]

The state superintendent of Oklahoma issued an order that every teacher must have a Bible in their classroom and teach from it. He literally said that teachers that don’t comply will have their licenses revoked

[@MnyFrNthng]

Believe me! If Trump is elected, SCOTUS justices will start saying similar things in 10 or 15 years. They are just waiting their time. You just need another Thomas or Alito to replace them. They already started to say that taxpayers should fund religious schools otherwise it is discrimination against religion. Wait for more gems like this.

[@crumblerx99]

Matt is way more patient than I would be.

[@flashgordon6670]

Patiently WRONG!

[@kingthief9118]

I wish he was like this on his call in show

[@az2252]

lol really? Have you not seen the debate with Andrew Wilson ?!

[@jakeferreira1211]

This was an incredible display of patience. I was frustrated just listening to it.

[@TBOTSS]

At least Matt did not run away this time.

[@pranay2die4]

Dinesh must be so tired! He kept moving goal posts for the whole debate.

[@edwardprokopchuk3264]

I typically enjoy debates, but you’re so on point that this conversation began to feel pointless and boring pretty quickly.

[@jacobostapowicz8188]

Because matt likes to play games where he critiques every other world view besides his own. "Trust the science", even though science is only an interpretation of the observable natural world

[@edwardprokopchuk3264]

@@jacobostapowicz8188 isn’t view criticism a huge aspect of debating?

[@AssassinFortniteClips]

You might need to watch it again. Right when Dinesh was making a good point, Matt would insist on some pedantic reframing and force Dinesh to approach it from another angle.

[@jacobostapowicz8188]

@@edwardprokopchuk3264 yes. But if matt were honest he would critique evolution theory with the same skepticism. He doesn't.

[@vex1669]

This one feels like D'Souza is talking twice as much as Matt without saying anything at all.

[@digidanshow]

Ha Ha Ha... it's probably because you didn't want to listen.

[@vex1669]

It's pretty obvious where he wants to go with each analogy and if you understand some basic philosophy, you should realize exactly where they break down. What do you think: Does he not understand how his logic is flawed or is he knowingly presenting unsound and sometimes even invalid arguments?

[@0Fyrebrand0]

That's often how these things go. Matt can be a very clear and concise speaker, and when it comes to logic and the truth there are a finite amount of things to say. I often see him finish his points under the time limit. But for religious apologists, it's all lies and nonsense anyway so there's no limit to how much you can make up.

[@Nathouuuutheone]

He definitely seems better than Jordan Peterson, to be fair. I think Dinesh presents his position pretty well. It just doesn't go anywhere because it's already boiled down to the irreducible basics of his own assumptions and cognitive biases which he actively thinks are the truth.

[@carcosa_tyrant9444]

when a christian has an argument with poor substance, they tend to attempt to fill the air with longer lines and fancy language. jordan peterson is especially guilty of this. if you can make your point in 3 bullet points with some minor additional information, then why would you ever talk for 5 paragraphs? it's because their points are weak and can't stand on their own so they need inflation.

[@Avenger222]

That unicorn remark was so on point.

[@paulstedmond1765]

So was dinesh pressing matt on lgbtq

[@_Stargazer_.]

@@paulstedmond1765 no even relevant to what he is saying .. lol

[@paulstedmond1765]

@@_Stargazer_. I think many people are smart enough to see the connection he was making.

[@rong2912]

Matt - "A million trans people are murdered in bathrooms across America every year". Citation needed Matt.

[@MrDangerous64]

Dinesh never had ANY argument beyond what he feels and believes. Zero evidence to back those feelings

[@mra4955]

like matts argument on gender yeah?

[@RockSleeper]

​@@mra4955 How delusional can you be? You have to cope so hard that you resort to "no, you" fallacies? Matt provided plenty of evidence based on science, and provided sound arguments on how to treat people who are different. If you don't know the difference between biological sex and gender identify, then you're more sexually confused than what you think trans people are. If you can't get the basics down, I doubt you understand how a civil society works, and thus you pose a threat to it. You either think transness is: 1) ...a mental health issue Amongst the wide variety of mental health issues that exist, a large portion of them are permanent, and lifelong. Those types of conditions are treated with understanding, support and increasing well-being by providing tools to support their differences. If you can't accept that possibility and still believe it is ok to treat people with incurable mental health issues like they are evil, wrong for being different, and must be forced to live their lives as if they don't have that condition, then you are a threat to civil society, and immoral for causing suffering upon innocent people. 2) ...a choice, and you think it's ok to tell someone else how to dress, behave, or what to do with their own body (when those choices cause no real harm to anyone) for no reason other than you don't like it, then you don't stand for individual liberty and freedom. You then have fascist ideology for the intent to suppress individuals, which is immoral for its opposition to maximum well-being. Having distaste in something does not count as harm. 3) ...a result of variation in human biology which creates differences in people's physiology, resulting in physical and/or behavioral blends of things typical amongst the different sexes. Knowing this would suggest you also know about the reality of intersexed people (actually backed by real science) who naturally develop with a blend of male and female sexual and biological characteristics; thus, it would be illogical for you to stand in opposition to such a person's existence, and if you did that would by default be a threat to society and immoral. in any perspective, whether it's based on reality or just for the sake of thought, no anti-trans "argument" I've come across succeeds in any way at supporting itself. They all crumble from ignorance of actual facts, and/or failure to form complete and sound arguments. ------------------------------------ for some common counter "arguments": 1) trans women pose a threat in women's bathrooms: first off, there is no support to that claim statistically or logically. Being a r@pist is not part of being trans, and regardless of any law or social norm, anyone can go into a bathroom and assault anyone, regardless of gender identity or sex. People who do that do that because they are assaulters, not because they are trans. the problem isn't trans people, it's isolated areas and r@pists. You don't solve that problem by gender regulation, you solve it with induvial one-person bathrooms. You can't even enforce genital inspection because that's violation of privacy, and do you even think about having to show your junk to some stranger every time you need to use a public bathroom? Id's don't count because they can be faked. Also, if you don't understand how passable trans people can be and how HRT works, and you enforce birth-sex bathrooms, you're going to see a lot more burly looking men on testosterone in women's bathrooms, and dainty girls who may or may not have a penis in men's bathrooms. You realize the most trans of trans people literally have sex reassignment surgery, right? in both ways too. 2) Trans people are just confused about who they are: That's not an actual trans person. Proper support and inclusion of trans people into society allows everyone to learn what it actually means to be trans, and because that doesn't happen, people get confused and don't have proper guidance on how to discover their true selves. Transness has always existed, and people will go through that journey of discovery whether they've seen it somewhere or it originates solely from their own internal experience. Do you even think about that? Transness isn't some doctrine or belief system that people get indoctrinated into. 3)Trans people are indoctrinating kids and trying to let them mutilate their bodies before being an adult. Trans people exist, the science is there, if you disagree you are willfully ignorant. For most trans people, they've felt that way as far as they can remember. Many trans people wish they had proper support when they were younger. There are trans people who wanted to transition very early, during puberty, you know, when hormones are kicking into high gear. Early transitions lead to more effective transition, that's just a fact. However, none of this means there is a movement to indoctrinate anyone into transness. In fact, it's the opposite. The movement is for more support for younger people to be properly guided through their experience in an effort to ensure that a choice to transition is as accurate and necessary as possible. If you care about age, the practice of increased support means more time and care is put into their discovery, thus meaning a choice to transition is prolonged. While the science is not as abundant as other mainstream sciences, the existing science shows that with proper guidance the choice to transition is more appropriate and successful when it's made, and it prevents those who aren't actually trans from making a mistake, because they were properly guided. Proper guidance means support for who the induvial truly is, and it requires more science to improve that support. The only way to properly treat trans people is through support. Also, the very few times there was a transition before the age of 18, they were to prevent suicides. The goal is not getting anyone to be trans, and it's not to give kids at-will access surgical transitions, it's to let real trans people know it's ok to be trans, so they can explore that part of themselves openly and naturally, without pressure to be one thing or another. It's also because transitioning is a big decision that should be thought through thoroughly. 4) being trans is bad because it leads to a higher chance of suicide: It's not being trans that leads to suicide, it's society's treatment of trans people that destroys their hope for a happy life of being themselves. If you can't imagine what it would be like to be attacked, harassed, and insulted on a daily basis, in a country actively fighting to make laws against who you are as a person and knowing that so many people like you are killed just for being themselves, then you lack the most basic level of empathy and pose a threat to society. 5) no one is going to tell me how to think or what to believe so I'm not going to respect pronouns: Really? alright let me break this simple af concept down. Being trans is not about changing someone else's belief, it's not about anyone other than the individual's identity. If you can't understand that all trans people ask for is the most basic level of cordial respect, then you've got some learning to do. They just want to be called a very small set of words. If you can call a car she/her, you can call a person asking you to call them that she/her. If you don't see that FOR YOU it's no different than calling someone by their nick name, then you need more help than trans people. Are you going to call someone by their birth name if they legally change it? are you so fragile in your own understanding of gender that you can't trust yourself with calling someone basically a nickname that you wouldn't initially assume of them on your own? Are words really that hard for you? ---------------------------------- no matter how you look at it, you cannot justify being anti-trans. until there is actual science that say's being trans doesn't exist in any way, and that supporting is actually bad, grow tf up and learn how to live in a civil society.

[@willtaylor4843]

This !

[@CB-dl1vg]

“Gender is a social construct” “Trans women are women!” How can a trans woman identify as something (gender: woman) that Dillahunty simultaneously claims is fictional and that be a logical and rational position? Dillahunty outsmarted himself into being a low brow dummy.

[@imguiltless1711]

For real. His whole gender stance is nothing but feels. What were you watching?

[@DiscipleToki]

I love this, it is so much more fun to have the conversation over a debate format.

[@flashgordon6670]

Depends on the interlocutors.

[@SarcasmIsMyGame_]

Who needs a moderator when you have these 2 just having a decent conversation

[@Guys_Love_Each_Other]

This type of conversation rarely happens

[@YoItsNeeks]

@@Guys_Love_Each_Other decent? Dinesh keeps trying to come up with new analogies and doesn't really let Matt respond. Just like most people who don't know what they are talking about, they keep talking and talking but saying nothing.

[@moon_wobble7782]

It never stayed on any one topic for longer than a couple of minutes. Matt made no attempt to bring D’nesh back and complete a thought. D’nesh seemed to strawman a lot.

[@JMPovoa]

@@YoItsNeeksDinesh keeps going for analogies because Matt really doesn’t want to answer any.

[@101yak]

@@JMPovoa oof, that is a stretch... Matt even stopped Dinesh multiple times to clarrify for the analogy and answered honestly to everything. Matt is too experienced to get pigeonholed. I do think this conversation was great, but really once again the person who holds the actual belief who needs the proof keeps trying to say you do not need evidence for anything ever for everyday.

[@donuts7627]

1:15:36 thos is pure gold, how on earth can any rational person propose that believing in something without any evidence and not believing in something due to a lack of evidence are equal.

[@AdrianVisean]

Impossible :) You must leave The rational part of you outside to make that statement

[@GameTimeWhy]

The incredible part is that Christians saw this and were like "F yeah! Way to teach Matt!"

[@1974jrod]

Matt cannot provide any evidence for his position, nor would he ever able to do so, and yet he defaults to a position devoid of any evidence, all the while demanding evidence from the only other position available. God is or God is not. It's that simple.

[@GameTimeWhy]

@@1974jrod why can't Christians provide evidence for their specific god? It isn't up to non Christians to prove the Christian god doesn't exist.

[@1974jrod]

@@GameTimeWhy they can provide evidence. It's always denied. But that wasn't my point. My point is athiests want evidence all the while holding to the only opposing position that no evidence can be provided.

[@stephenlundy5535]

Why does every religious debater make the same silly misunderstandings despite having debated this multiple times. Do they get amnesia or have cognitive issues?

[@matthewvandeventer3632]

They are playing propaganda, not learning.

[@zointisarenazi]

Which is more tarded believe that magical vacuum in smh heated up made big bang or magical white whole came from no where or that we are fish then became champ smh we ate magical mushroom then we have free will . Or do u think there is alien made us then sent us here in earth

[@robmueller3551]

because the silliness is all they have

[@corneliahanimann2173]

As an atheist, I will say that I gave gotten more reasonable and better answers from the pastors in the church I grew up in, than I get from these men on podcasts. I don't think these men believe in anything that is not to some degree convenient to them, and I also don't think they care. I know the pastor I knew thought religion is the best way of life, and when I asked him for advice on a matter, he didn't tie it back to jesus, he actually was pragmatic about it, but did however use the opportunity to say a prayer for me when I left again, and I knew what the gesture meant. My pastor is not some great debater, but he has studied theology and he cares for a community, and I truly believe he tries to serve that community to the best of his abilities. Dinesh doesn't have a community to care for, he seems to have a very simple wish, that is to be seen as an intellectual without having done the reading. And it exposescreally, he does not care for a religion beyond the ways in which the religion provides the mechanic to mentally detach himself from his sins.

[@yakfishingus1819]

Dinesh has the worst analogies ever! He should have learned from his debates with Hitchens.

[@Frank-wh8cm]

You don't learn from debates with Hitch. You just try to survive his slaps and then to save your fanbase by doubling down on your stupid beliefs. ;)

[@abhirao3471]

He hasn't learnt . He doesn't want to learn .

[@GameTimeWhy]

It is incredible how he had learned nothing from any of his debates. It's even more incredible that he had fans that support his trouble apologetics

[@Frank-wh8cm]

@@GameTimeWhy I really think he cannot learn this, because he'd loose 80% of his fanbase. That is why I lean towards him lying. Take the icebear-population. I needed ten seconds to get to the information that the higher icebear population might be a result of better tracking methods, not more bears. Look at how he is phrasing that thing. I bet he knows it was fake news, that is why he put so much weight in pointing out that he trusts the scientists skills. Sounds like lying to me.

[@rong2912]

Matt is all about logic until it comes to trans people, then he becomes an utter imbecile.

[@red21fit]

Listening to Dinesh is freaking exhausting! Sheesh! I really admire Matt's patience and decorum.

[@geronimo19611]

It's torture. I'm 20 minutes in , I don't think I can take it much longer. What a pos

[@13shadowwolf]

DerNesh DuhSnooza, the fraud that sells Christianity.

[@opensocietyenjoyer]

it's not exhausting, it's infuriating. how can a person who knowingly spews climate change denial and not be evil?

[@borssky]

I skipped dinesh and fast forwarded to Matt. Dinesh is insufferable. He’s a pseudo intellectual. Don’t get it why would anyone debate with him. Respect for Matt for his patience! But I bet he would never do this with D’Souza again!

[@WilliamAllikzander]

I haven’t listened to a “debate” in YEARS and now I remember why. It’s just entertainment if you’re entertained by a liar trying to find out which lies still work.

[@TBOTSS]

In addition to being a liar Matt also runs away very, very fast.

[@hanshananigan1233]

As far as discussions and debates go, this was a lot of meandering and little substances. I was disappointed. The one between Dillahunty and Peterson was much more interesting.

[@TBOTSS]

@@hanshananigan1233 Not as interesting as Matt's debate with Andrew Wilson.

[@hanshananigan1233]

@@TBOTSS haven't seen it, I'll check it out, thanks!

[@42stek]

@@TBOTSSwhat did he run away from here the constant word salad being thrown at him or him being told what his positions were you obviously didn’t pay attention

[@somethingginterestingg4275]

Does he forget that the fossil fuel industry is a powerful industry with incentives to disprove climate science

[@stephenkeogh3287]

This Dinesh character is such an intellectual lightweight, I don’t know how he keeps getting invited to these debates. Impressively though, no matter how often he gets schooled, he never seems to lose confidence.

[@klnrklnr4433]

dunning kruger effect

[@goldwhitedragon]

Nice gotcha. Boosted your ego and made you feel morally superior.

[@klnrklnr4433]

lighten up, they were just pointing out the obvious@@goldwhitedragon

[@MultiBigAndy]

I am surprised that Atheists think Matt Dillahunty is "superior" there. Huh, that Dunning-Kruger effect! Lol.

[@klnrklnr4433]

Nah, just you being willfully ignorant.@@MultiBigAndy

[@andrewmargherit7253]

It's Crazy, 6 minutes in and this video is already so relevant to the issues with the supreme court in the USA now.

[@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews]

Well, the video was uploaded just an hour ago

[@Sonicthehedgefundmanager]

@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnewsthis debate happened in 2018

[@andrewmargherit7253]

@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews hahaha I like the dad joke, but yeah in the context of it being 5 years ago.

[@JaiRambo]

Lost any respect I could have attempted to muster for Dinesh after he bent the knee to the guy that pardoned him out of a decade of prison. Plus Christopher Hitchens used him like a punching bag for years.

[@McGeeRF]

You lost respect when he advocated for the best living present of our time? What the heck do you have that flag in your pic for? Communism? Look around dude, have you even seen the grassroots sentiment for Trump? You're certainly in the minority of thought for the man. But I digress; at least you're a Dillahunty fan.

[@JaiRambo]

@@McGeeRF wtf you talking about pal? I served this country and love it still. Aint nothing patriotic about your boy trump, he has done nothing but shit on America for years. Getting exactly what he deserves for betraying us like he has. Our constitution is the reason he is going down and I hope they throw his traitor ass in prison. Btw before you accuse me of being a liberal, I disagree with All of bidens policies, but its better than treason in my book.

[@blktarockstar818]

@@McGeeRF There is no metric by which Trump can be said to be a good president. Trump lost jobs cut taxes for the top 1% and his trade war was effectively the largest tax increase for average Americans. As far as metrics go Biden has been the best president for labor since FDR.

[@McGeeRF]

@basedgamerguy818 Check your job stats for after a shutdown. It's a natural rebound effect. Not organic growth. I'm sorry, you're one of thoes. good luck. May the dollar you use to purchase remain resilient. Also, check the inflation rate, the open Boarder, the WW3 on the horizon, the BRICS nations response to the Petro Dollar, on and on and on.

[@blktarockstar818]

@@McGeeRF Trump caused the economy to stall before the pandemic and Biden's policies created 12 million jobs. there isn't a Republican president who has created more jobs than democrats in recent history and no president was worse than Trump. You disagree based on feelings but there are no numbers supporting your claims

[@elem-sike4161]

“I don’t want to debate detail here, I want to look at the macro picture.” - Dinesh Says a lot.

[@flashgordon6670]

Think big to make it big.

[@matthewvandeventer3632]

​@@flashgordon6670ignore the details to lose big.

[@pdworld3421]

Matt has just hit an important point- the difference between an atheist and a true believer when he talks about divorce

[@MythiasBersker]

Matt said many things...he didn't believe enough in his first marriage rather than know. Huh...maybe it was faith and not hope.

[@infini_ryu9461]

Matt's view on divorce is hilarious from an Atheist stand-point, too. If you believe marriage is something you can just opt out of willy-nilly then don't get married. The marriage is not there because you love each other, it's not there for you to get a tax break, it's for the kids--And idgaf about how you feel as an adult, your marriage is likely that way because you chose it to be, I care about the kids who have to suffer through that divorce. Being friends with your Ex's after they most probably got you rode through in the courts is the biggest simp move you can make.

[@GoodAvatar-ut5pq]

@@infini_ryu9461 Well, I think you and I view marriages as totally separate things. I view marriages as an alliance of souls with legal/social ramifications and benefits. It sounds like you regard marriage as holy or spiritual. But it doesn't have to be. A lot of people don't have magical marriages and they don't need them.

[@infini_ryu9461]

@@GoodAvatar-ut5pq You say it's a bonding of souls and I'm the spiritual one? I just said it's for the kids, whether you think that's holy or not is your beef. We all have to live with these bastards or children of divorcees at the end of the day, I'd like to lower my chances of getting mugged, thanks.

[@GoodAvatar-ut5pq]

@@infini_ryu9461 Then you should be favoring atheists in any event. Because atheists tend to get divorces at much lower rates than the religious types. When those twerps allow divorces to begin with. Why would you want to force a marriage on someone that doesn't want to stay in it? Seems goofy to me. Really silly. Like you didn't think things through or something.

[@DarkMatter2525]

Here's a good example of how misleading Dinesh is. While Matt excellently put down Dinesh's fallacious reasoning regarding what scientists believed about climate change in the 70s, he was also factually incorrect about what those scientists claimed. At that time there were 6x more scientific papers that concluded future global warming, and they turned out to be very accurate. That wasn't based on "scientists' beliefs" but what the data showed. What's funny is that scientists were paid by oil companies to do independent research with the obvious intent to find out if there was any merit to anthropogenic climate change, and they - scientists hired by Exxon - determined that it IS being caused by human beings. Of course Exxon tried to bury that, but it was actually leaked after their predictions turned out to be exact. But a guy with $200M buys a $10M house on the beach, and we're supposed to just throw away all the hard data? Ridiculous. Why does anyone take Dinesh seriously? He can't even maintain the facade of a serious thinker.

[@vincentheartland2088]

Hey there, Darkmatter! I thought of your video (the “Are things getting worse” one… or was it the “You are lied to every day” one?) the instant he said that! I referenced your y2k example as well, both well done! Keep up the great work, man. Be a fan for a long time. Looking forward to buying your new book series!

[@klnrklnr4433]

religious folk hate data. messes with their fairytales.

[@jamesfarganne528]

WRONG.

[@DarkMatter2525]

@@vincentheartland2088 Thanks for the kind words

[@cindymcconnell5864]

​@@jamesfarganne528100% agree with you Truth teller. Let the deluded ones keep believing in their big NOTHING and listening to uneducated fools who think they are wiser than GOD. Science proves God and global warming lies have been proved over n over again by real scientists who measure using real life data , not inacurrate "modelling". When Jesus judges they will all have nothing wise to say

[@johns1625]

The analogy of "do you believe in the dogs you havent seen?" is so hilarious to me. That analogy comparing dogs to god would only work if nobody alive has ever even seen a dog 😂😂😂

[@shaqyardie8105]

no one alive has seen a god though. There's a reason that seeing/speaking to god is a symptom of schizophrenia. It seems that whenever someone talks to god, it's whenever they're all alone and no one else is around. And they also forget to take a photo or video of this miraculous moment, every single time. What a coincidence lol.

[@casperfevr7358]

@@shaqyardie8105Yeah because when someone has a divine encounter with the God of creation they should have the instinct or thought to take out their phone and record. Cmon

[@shaqyardie8105]

@@casperfevr7358 lol 😂 did you read anything I said. God is very shy that he only reveals himself to people one at a time and when they're all alone and no one else is around. I even referred to the delusion that is schizophrenia and you STILL come up with excuses like everyone is so starstruck that they just forget to take a photo, like oops I forgot to take a photo. I'll make sure I take one next time lol 😂. Every single person that has seen god, really? How can we tell the difference between seeing god and it being a figment of our imagination?

[@vichomangiola]

@@casperfevr7358 Exactly. Because we can take out our phones and record dogs, it is reasonable to believe other dogs exist.

[@m2pmd70]

I was hoping Matt would respond with something along the lines of "Sure, I'm willing to believe there is likely a dog in China I've never seen and whose existence I can only infer. But you're asking me to believe in a specific dog who is omnipotent and omniscient, that no one has ever seen and for which there is absolutely no evidence."

[@ChannelMan434]

To say “the problem of healthcare is very simple” is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard

[@gnarlow996]

How do you know when you’re talking to a graduate of an Ivy League college? Don’t worry, they’ll make up a weird toad analogy and awkwardly find a way to work that in to the story.

[@user-ed5jh3ff6u]

Listening to an individual like dinesh is exhausting, basically the debate technique of wearing you down.

[@carlmurphy2416]

Regarding the global cooling scare of the 70s: Global cooling was a conjecture, especially during the 1970s, of imminent cooling of the Earth culminating in a period of extensive glaciation, due to the cooling effects of aerosols or orbital forcing. Some press reports in the 1970s speculated about continued cooling; , which was generally more concerned with warming from an enhanced greenhouse effect.[1]

[@reecewood1918]

Do you really think we can accurately measure the tempature of the plannet? Thats a joke. Do you think the scientific comunity is willing to sign off on anything atithical to this doombs day cults orthadoxy, or would that be career suicide?

[@julianyc422]

Co2 and aerosols are the same thing? You are quoting those who were wrong as proof of what?

[@dspondike]

The look on Matt's face when Dinesh ventured into "Trans territory" was precious and meme-able.

[@aicram62]

Time stamp

[@Son_of_zeus]

the star example is perfect to argue polytheism with a Christian lol

[@Jackson-pu7gd]

*springs testicles*

[@PDXpsych]

@@aicram6258:39

[@JohnSmith-bs9ym]

That was such a detour on Dinesh's part, but man, Matt believing in multiple genders is so stupid. There are only two. They are not "social constructs". They are biological realities. My respect for Matt actually dropped quite a bit after his response.

[@muadhib001]

A genius debating the Dunning-Kruger syndrome

[@Bech285]

Not sure about genius but I can definitely see both showing signs of the effect :D

[@BushidoVXX]

Genius 🤡

[@socialsigh]

Dinesh really tried trying. Especially his afterlife question. Believing in an afterlife will make you act irrationally by investeing heavily and preparing for an afterlife that may not exist. Meanwhile the nonbeliever has not been concerned with such things and helped design your new iPhone.

[@michaelbernard1041]

How would that be irrational? If you believe in an afterlife, it would be very rational to make preparations for it.

[@KriminalRecords-u5b]

It's not rational as the basis of the action itself is irrational, i.e., the afterlife.@@michaelbernard1041

[@stevenp2309]

There are many "supernatural" events believed by many civilisations in the past that are now explained as "natural" because of science

[@SKRATCH1988]

Believing that nothing happens when you die takes the same amount of faith as believing that something does happen....

[@ericapelz260]

@@SKRATCH1988A well-put misinterpretation of the statements made. Not believing in an afterlife is not the same as believing there is no afterlife. Matt's point, and the statement made by the OP, do not say, "There is no afterlife." The statement is that there is no evidence that an afterlife exists, nor that it does not exist. The "non-believer" is free to move about their life unconcerned with the question of an afterlife. Before watching this video, I spent exactly 0 minutes contemplating the question of an afterlife in the last decade. If someone presents objective evidence that an afterlife exists or does not exist, I am open to evaluating it. Still, unless science progresses in unexpected ways, I have no reason to expect to reevaluate my position anytime soon.

[@johnnyegerhardt1109]

A woman/girl is interviewed a minimum of three times before she is granted an abortion. One of those interviews the patient is isolated so no one can influence her decision. Abortion is never approached indifferently or negligently.

[@williamsaaranen7672]

My sister got an abortion and that didn't happen.

[@johnnyegerhardt1109]

@@williamsaaranen7672 was it legal? I worked in a clinic as an escort for patients to protect them from protestors and sometimes as support for women who faced it alone. It was accredited and regulated. All OBGYN clinics are. Doctors go to prison for practicing without a license in this country, the USA. Did your sister give you permission to talk about it? Online? Seems rather rude and careless.

[@williamsaaranen7672]

@@johnnyegerhardt1109 yes it was.

[@johnnyegerhardt1109]

Were you with her in pre-op and the operating room? You didn't answer about having permission to discuss it publicly.

[@godnah]

How annoyed would Hitch be by Dinesh calling him "pro-life".....lol

[@lifesquandered]

Right?! Last week, I was literally listening to Hitchens saying we could end world poverty if we allowed women to have control over their own reproduction.

[@deadpiratetattoo2015]

Hitch was against abortion, but not for making it illegal. There is a fine distinction. Therefore saying he is prolife misses the point

[@toolinaround-est2024]

​@@lifesquanderedhe said this all the time, that the best thing that can be done for a country and it's economy is the empowerment of women.

[@boxer12350]

He was pro life. Surprising, granted, but he was. He spoke a little but about it and wrote an article on it

[@godnah]

@@boxer12350 That's not exactly right. He said that logically and morally pro-life was the stance that he ended up with. He absolutely would detest being called a member of the rabid right wing pro-life movements in the United States.

[@solar_baby1392]

I forgot how much this discussion annoyed me. Dinesh is not an honest speaker to begin with, but he's always misrepresenting the other person arguments and statements and there is never really a good conversation. In the beginning, was he implying he doesn't believe people vote from a religious mindset?

[@trevlac2000]

I am surprised that Matt chose to debate Dinesh again after the the last time.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

That was my first thought when I saw this pop up too. Matt KNOWS that Dinesh is a bad faith debater and has expressed disinterest in debating with him again. And this is BRUTAL to get through. I'm at the climate denial now and it's a BAD look.

[@NewNecro]

It's a re-upload.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Only thing bad is Matt. It's why he shall burn in Hell. All heathens shall burn. YOU shall burn. 👈

[@PirateOfPlayTime]

@@AlexsGoogleAccount What debate are you referring to? I'd like to watch it.

[@wmredwine]

Fossil fuel companies would pay HUGE for research denying the human connection to climate change.

[@opensocietyenjoyer]

no but you don't understand! the big hippie lobby is paying all of the 97% of the scientists to make up climate change because they have personal grievances with coastal house owners

[@Frank-wh8cm]

A pity Matt doesnt have a fact checker in his ear. Because the one I just read told me, that the polar bear population increase might rather be because of better tracking, not more bears.

[@whispersmith]

Also probably easier to track bears when they're driven to a smaller area more accessible to humans

[@lazul6611]

Lol so by that logic the accounting of polar bears when they were supposedly declining was inaccurate too?

[@Frank-wh8cm]

@@lazul6611 so what?

[@mickmick1852]

Ok... There's still more polar bears... Does it matter?

[@RandomNooby]

Dineshdsouza has balls, and brains I guess; all he needs now is some facts, logic, and an understanding of using analogies...

[@blktarockstar818]

The guy is a known racist, liar and felon. I find it disgusting that he is given a platform.

[@danmcqueen5295]

Yes, he wishes for more civilized arguments...he just isn't very good at them.

[@-RandomBiz-]

He's like Jordan Peterson. He's a stupid man's smart person.

[@YallDotBiz]

I hate to admit that I have NOT spent any significant time contemplating my 'purpose'. Not sure if I know what it means. My purpose is to be the best happiest kindest person I can be.

[@drewj4297]

I don’t think there is any purpose to our existence. I’m fine with that. Might as well just try to enjoy existence while we exist

[@kingwillie206]

@@drewj4297- The moment you think you’re special just wait until you get old enough to watch enough things suffer and die for no reason, then realize you’re next in line.

[@paulgemme6056]

So, Matt's quest is to prove that there is no evidence that God exists. Just because Matt's purpose is to do this (prove God/Jesus Christ doesn't exist) doesn't mean that God/Christ Jesus does not exist. If anything, it proves how prideful he (Matt) is because he can't humble himself before a wiser more intelligent being than himself. So sad! Jesus Christ died to give him the free gift of knowing our Creator/Redeemer and he refuses to accept it. So sad! No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Religion is merit based. Relationship is love based. God/Jesus Christ wants us to have a relationship with him (Spirit to spirit).

[@paulgemme6056]

@@drewj4297 So, Matt's quest is to prove that there is no evidence that God exists. Just because Matt's purpose is to do this (prove God/Jesus Christ doesn't exist) doesn't mean that God/Christ Jesus does not exist. If anything, it proves how prideful he (Matt) is because he can't humble himself before a wiser more intelligent being than himself. So sad! Jesus Christ died to give him the free gift of knowing our Creator/Redeemer and he refuses to accept it. So sad! No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Religion is merit based. Relationship is love based. God/Jesus Christ wants us to have a relationship with him (Spirit to spirit).

[@paulgemme6056]

@@kingwillie206 God/Jesus Christ does not allow us to suffer for no reason. Suffering either draws one to God/Christ or pushes one further away. The choice is ours. All the suffering that is or ever has been comes from the evil one (Satan - the devil).

[@_Stargazer_.]

Its astounding that people who otherwise seem smart and do so much in real life... turn into absolute cavemen who suddenly dont seem to understand logic and reason , as soon as the topic of god pops up. Its like "god " has a special place out of the bounds of reasoning in peoples mind .. they are ready to special plead it into existence .

[@riverwild348]

I don't want a round two, Matt deserves better company.

[@paulgemme6056]

So, Matt's quest is to prove that there is no evidence that God exists. Just because Matt's purpose is to do this (prove God/Jesus Christ doesn't exist) doesn't mean that God/Christ Jesus does not exist. If anything, it proves how prideful he (Matt) is because he can't humble himself before a wiser more intelligent being than himself. So sad! Jesus Christ died to give him the free gift of knowing our Creator/Redeemer and he refuses to accept it. So sad! No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Religion is merit based. Relationship is love based. God/Jesus Christ wants us to have a relationship with him (Spirit to spirit).

[@filthyclown8033]

@@paulgemme6056there’s no evidence, nobody has to go on a quest to prove this. There is none.

[@filthyclown8033]

@@paulgemme6056YOUR quest is simple, show the evidence

[@mickmick1852]

Your right, he should just debate himself, then you'd have all the content you need to fap to... Damn I wish I was joking 😢

[@carguybikeguy]

Dinesh doesn’t just wander into the weeds, he sees new ones.

[@KinKnives]

... and then smokes them, killing more of his limited supply brain cells

[@ddray1992]

Like a rake through the reeds as to find the right tone, one must wake through the weeds as to find their way home.

[@putzthewondersloth]

Currently Al Gore is worth $300 million He does make up to $200,000 in speaking fees, some which may be climate related and some not. He has made $100 million from the sale of Current TV, $50 - $60 million from Apple stock, and millions more from other investments. He is not not financially enslaved to climate change belief as D'Souza is implying.

[@daveh1869]

I’m pretty confident that there are many more leaders in the carbon based energy industry that are worth much, much more than Gore. Regardless, it is a fallacious point. The question of whether human activity is negatively impacting our climate and the extent of that impact is a scientific issue. It can only be rationally addressed by science. By actual and verifiable data. There are always financial gains to be made in such a monumental issue by both sides of the debate, but that is not evidence of whether there is human made climate change.

[@max_s557]

I never realised Matt was a heavyweight debater bravo!

[@andeytubeyshamon]

27 min argument I wanted to thrown my iPad in the river - imagine Dinesh doesn’t rule out pixies, unicorns and middle earth dragons until he has evidence for it - he is literally as thick as mince and his street pigeons seem to have more reasoning than him - seriously why Matt would even entertain this guy is beyond me. 🤯

[@TAC0FACE]

I find life much more peaceful and stress free when stop searching for a purpose and just let it be.

[@Braun09tv]

The purpose should be clear: the local level of complexity had to be fulfilled and empty planets alone couldn't do it.

[@MichaelAronson]

@@Braun09tv What

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

​@@Braun09tvwhat

[@Braun09tv]

It's not God who creates the universe, it is the universe that enables everything including God. The universe is representing infinity and God is the opposite of chaos. It is as simple as that.

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

@@Braun09tv Prove a god exists first. We already know the universe does.

[@sterlinga.5410]

54:17 Great joke there, Dinesh. You got the whole auditorium laughing with that one 😐

[@zose6289]

The only joke is Mat and you

[@sterlinga.5410]

@@zose6289 You have no idea where I stand politically or spiritually. Christian or atheist, making jokes about killing cats isn't funny.

[@zose6289]

@@sterlinga.5410 It was not a joke, it was a hypothetical example through which he wanted to prove his argument. If that is what you hold against him, then I have to ask myself if you are an emotionally mature person or an immature child

[@sterlinga.5410]

​@@zose6289If you can't tell that he was attempting to make a joke there by his body language and little chuckle afterwords, that's your problem, not mine.

[@8eight104]

@@zose6289no one laughed at that shit. It was awkward and cringe.

[@santa_christ]

51:20 Dinesh: “You have a man in your chest who isn’t you but makes bad decisions on your behalf every so often” Also Dinesh: “It’s ridiculous to think you’re trans”

[@MarkoMood]

Wish you all quick recovery! I see you have lost memory of already publishing all of these debates

[@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews]

Clearly, Dinesh is trying to say there’s two main people there’s God and there’s Christopher

[@phillipwash2670]

I bet you he would come back and tell you he was dead wrong now, being in hell

[@imjustapersonhi]

I was really having a hard time following Dinesh. Matt was smart to just let Dinesh blab his mouth. I think Dinesh didn't even know what he was going to say next.

[@MultiBigAndy]

I understood what he was talking about, but Matt had a hard time understanding and listening to what he is trying to pinpoint.

[@imjustapersonhi]

@@MultiBigAndy I'm not saying that he wasn't making sense. I'm saying that he was having a hard time explaining himself. He was jumping around, topic to topic, without really getting his point through. Bad comparisons, bad analogies, bad debate. He has interesting thoughts, I just wish he knew how to express them better

[@thelatinotaku]

Gonna keep it 100%. While I do enjoy watching the occasional athiest/thiest debates [in this case: secularism/Humanism/secular-humanism vs evangelical/'non-denominational' christian], It's a bit maddening knowing that one of these two has activity supported the destruction of a country's democracy and the institutions that support it in favor of, essentially, a wannabe god-king only then to be platformed like this as if we just don't need to worry about it...

[@meganmueller]

Matt is a King!

[@arnoldfossman1701]

I'm 69 and have a whole chorus of health issues. I would rather not visit a doctor even when I am being advised to. I'm posting this comment in the early hours of 10/30/2023 and I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow that I have been advised by several people to make and keep. If I thought I could stop the problem by myself (I have been trying home remedies for a while now and am still trying them) I would cancel the appointment. But then I might be a weirdo because outside a very few people I would rather not deal with most people in person. Commenting in a place like this isn't dealing with people in person.

[@Shane-5229]

Ever think that your avoidance of the medical professionals trained and paid to take care of you might be the reason for your slew of problems?

[@blairhaffly1777]

It's been 3 months since your appointment. How would you rate your experience?

[@Penfold101]

@@blairhaffly1777probably dead. Colour me surprised.

[@duck2477]

Matt missed a point around 39:30 when Dinesh asked "who is going to pay me?". The answer is the people buying the books, studies, and documentaries based on the bs he's spouting.

[@darkarchonisme]

And the oil billionaires funding the platforms Dinesh speaks on and other propagandists like Dennis prager, that's who pays dinesh

[@APackOfHungryGhosts]

Dinesh has this weird knack of always side-stepping direct questions and valid topics. If someone asks him a direct Yes or No question, he answers them with a story, or attempts to change the subject entirely. Anytime someone makes a valid point, or brings up a subject that is damning to his viewpoint he retorts with "Well, I don't want to talk about that." or "Let's circle back to that, what I'm interested in is..." He said these multiple times, verbatim, in this very debate, and multiple times in every other debate I've ever seen him participate in. He's so dodgy and cagey it really hurts his credibility and his inability or unwillingness to actual engage in legitimate debate makes him come off as dubious at best.

[@trevorsole3933]

I wasn't "flung into the world", I was cut out of my mother's belly. Because our heads keep getting bigger while those "birthing hips" are getting smaller as we continue to evolve.

[@cdogthehedgehog6923]

That means your mum still got her bits intact 😏 she single?

[@Octavian2]

Autism.

[@TAC0FACE]

Animals are conscious too. My cat, my brother's dogs, they all have distinct personalities and are self conscious, same as you or me or little kids. They're just less intelligent, but much more cute than humans.

[@casualnerd8139]

How is someone that is somewhat established in this field still not getting the difference between not believing A and believing not A? Dinesh D'Souza needs to take a Logic 101 course...

[@jobnieloliva5358]

He knows the difference. He’s being dishonest in his arguments cause he knows that’s what his donors like to hear.

[@jimothyj2638]

Dillahunty really needs to brush up on his climate knowledge. There were so many missed oppurtunities to dunk on Dinesh’s tired talking points

[@llpolluxll]

I'm sure if he knew that Dinesh would bring up that topic, he would have brushed up on it more. When someone is debating in bad faith, they will usually turn to subjects that the person that they are debating is not as familiar with to score rhetorical points and it's quite blatant in this case. I think Matt did a really good job for what he was dealing with.

[@markhill1066]

He honestly needs to brush up on his knowledge in general. He could have pointed out that home insurance on the coast is skyrocketing as a result of climate change. He also owes D'Souza a steak dinner cause healthcare over utilization is a big problem in socialized healthcare systems, but also one that can be managed.

[@terrymckenzie8786]

Dillahunty has completely been shown as a fraud in his mule movie. Completely set up every seen.

[@scottgrohs5940]

It’s “scene” not seen, dipshit.

[@terrymckenzie8786]

@@scottgrohs5940 auto correct. Get a life jerk off

[@mrJohnDesiderio]

Matt was excellent

[@nfa3092]

Excellent conversation. The analogical arguments are super lovely.

[@jwmmitch]

It's amazing that this guy is trying to say "I see 7 stars, and can logically deduce from my observing things can be outside my field of view that maybe from a different perspective I could see more stars" (which btw is how scientific hypotheses are created) is the same as "I don't know how we got here nor the meaning of life.... but my father's uncle's cousin's nephew's brother's former roommate said Yahweh told him those answers" are the same thing just absolutely blows my mind. It's like saying "you've seen money? Do you believe there's more money out there? Yes? Then why not believe in Santa Calus? #MicDrop" like wtf?! I am ashamed I was ever a Christian

[@Hypersonicmind]

lol This guy should investigate flood insurance in Florida and fire insurance in California. Reality is money to these guys. It might help if he understood what the military MUST do moving and modifying logistics in response to climate change. We have 50 years of satellite data accumulated- hence a fair amount of dynamic information- we were just getting started in the seventies- and computer power went from 100,000cps in 1969 to 400,000,000,000,000,000 cps- today. i'm guessing our simulations may now be a bit more accurate.

[@OrcintheBasement]

“Climate change is a huge industry, who would pay the debunkers of climate change” My dude have you heard of oil companies Also what a fuckin dystopia it would be if I had to shop around for the cheapest deal for my medical treatments. Also holy shit. Health care is expensive bc old ppl are lonely is a wild thought

[@Amanik_Capoli]

Watching these videos shows me we don’t have long till we are living in the time of idiocracy

[@quan1562]

Bruh😂😂

[@masonmikulec3519]

Honestly that’s how I feel in the comment section. Only good point made

[@JoeArog14]

We're there already. That's why these debates exist at all. Look at politics!

[@katiek.8808]

Yes because we have a bunch people following this bald idiot that just got upset about Dinesh saying the same scientists when in reality many are the exact same people. And this guy doesn’t even know that yet is so convinced it’s real.

[@DanielSmedegaardBuus]

Yeah.... When Matt went from logical monster to illogical clown, I knew it was over 😔 I mean, how is DeSuza better than Matt in a debate? Jebus christface

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

They don't come any more bad faith than that man, Dinesh.

[@bryandaley5738]

The healthcare issue - at the very end - is very real. I had no insurance for quite some time. I would always ask: "how much does this cost?" The service providers never provided an answer. They don't know. WHY??? When you go to a 'basic' auto service establishment, there is a list of services AND THEIR PRICES! Oil Change. Brake service. Fluid flush, etc. I had gout. I went to the emergency room at the behest of urgent care. There, they wanted to take x-rays of my foot. "Why?" I asked. "I have gout." They persisted, I objected, and they left. Then another 'specialist' came in saying they were going to x-ray the foot. I believe I was TOLD 3 times, that was what they would do. Finally I said: "Who is paying for it?" They said, "Don't you have insurance?" I said no. Now, whenever I go to the doctor and they say they want to run oodles of tests that I don't want, I say: "Are YOU paying for it? If YOU are paying for it, run all the tests you want!" If not, I won't have this service. Also: There is a complete disconnect within the industry. I have goals. Good for me, right? My goals aren't important to the doctor(s). Their agenda is. Their agenda - without exception - is to promulgate and proliferate the industry. I'm just speaking from experience.

[@chadmccoy8032]

Takes a lot of balls to get on stage and have these kinds of conversations.

[@boowho2u]

How so, I don't know where D'souza has been the last few decades, but I have been watching these kinds of debates for the last 30 years.

[@chadmccoy8032]

@@boowho2u I guess I am just a lot younger. You have wisdom man.

[@boowho2u]

@@chadmccoy8032 Well I am definitely much older though I am sure I'll leave this planet with much still unlearned. I don't envy your youth. Today politicians and preachers literally and shamelessly lie right to our faces. And they bank on our not questioning. I could just has easily have been duped except that I questioned everything so people like D'Souza can't hide his grift.

[@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth]

Could do it all day long

[@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth]

​@@boowho2uChristians like John Lennox and like William lane Craig have always blown me away with their wisdom and observational skills, because that's what all this really boils down to , is how observant is one at seeing patterns and retracing those patterns throughout life.

[@spyder2383]

I dont think this was, by a huge margin, Matt's best outing. Yet, still wiped the floor on DeSouza.

[@rokko_fable]

I feel like all these praises for Matt didn't watch the same video that I did. He's not a very deep thinker.

[@quantize]

@@rokko_fableor perhaps you arent

[@dspondike]

The thing about healthcare: The person who needs it HAS NO CHOICE and the people who make money off the system know that.

[@AndrewWilsonStooshie]

You don't discover your purpose in life. You create it.

[@oib0y]

He, Dinesh, wouldn't like my favourite drinking hole. There are no men's or women's washroom. All they did was removed the urinals & added more stalls and no complaints from anyone! I've been in the washroom when a woman came in. We said hi to each other then went about our business.

[@cmcm9222]

Because your more than likely a decent human being, that doesn’t mean everybody is. Is it or is it not reasonable to safeguard against bad intentioned people? Is it not reasonable to suggest that giving biological males access to womens safe spaces is dangerous? What about in a nightclub if a young girl is being pursued and doesn’t want to be, their only real safe space to get away would be the womens bathroom, and you want to take that away. For the sake of not hurting some trans peoples feelings. (fraction of a fraction of the population)

[@cmcm9222]

I know I don’t want grown men using the same bathroom as my daughters especially as they get older and reach sexual maturity. The world is full of creeps and to pretend it isn’t and this isn’t a risk is straight up stupid.

[@mickywinters8451]

I listen to this and Matt for sleep. Makes me smarter when I wake up 😅

[@henrypadilla7973]

This debate is worth the watch if only for the phrase "sprang your testicles". Thank you Mr. D'Sousa. You are good for something after all.

[@flashgordon6670]

I hope he doesn’t pee through his testicles. If you need to “spring your testicles” when you urinate, then you’re not going to urinate, you’re going to ejaculate.

[@Hakasedess]

If you apply Dinesh "Literally a convicted conman" D'Souza's own argument against climate change to the topic of this debate, god, then you have to accept that all the following are true: There is no god There are many gods There is only one god -Said one god is the Muslim god -Said one god is the Christian god --said one god is a very particular variation of the christian god (there are about 50 of these, I will not list them individually) -Said one god is the Jewish god And many more

[@Hakasedess]

Also, "Who's gonna pay me [for spreading anti-climate-change propaganda]?" I don't know, the same people who pay everyone else to? Koch, for one, he spends a lot on that. Really, for that matter, tell me who paid researchers to conclude smoking was actually good for you for like, decades? Who did that?

[@MisterRorschach90]

Changes the topic Matt answers Complains that Matt changed the subject.

[@Timkast]

You have to press D’Souza harder. He uses storytelling + pontification + answering questions with questions.

[@Nahrin_Assyrian]

when someone wants to be a woman to get into our bathroom,it's our business, When someone wants to erase the word woman and find it offensive because they don't meet the requirements to put them same level with women ,then it's my business. They ARE COMPETING with us on all levels,but not as men BUT WOMEN 😮

[@blktarockstar818]

You're embarrassing yourself

[@Nahrin_Assyrian]

@@blktarockstar818 It looks like you are one of them

[@blktarockstar818]

@@Nahrin_Assyrian no I'm just a normal person who isn't obsessed with other people's genitals and can't stand all the pearl clutching by out of touch religious zealots. I'm so sorry that you have a 30 year old high school understanding of gender, but bigotry and discrimination have no place in society. Stop being such a weirdo

[@cocobee1313]

@@Nahrin_Assyrian one of them? what a horrible human being.

[@popeyefreeze2541]

What does this have to do with this video? 😂

[@carsonwong]

Its totally mad where Dinesh constantly try to move goal post and some where in middle , he forgotten what he is trying to say and move the goal post but didnt end anywhere. Crazy

[@diptichrastka2162]

The Papua New Guinea example by Dinesh displays his "knowledge or lack thereof"

[@RohoSombrero]

I’ve never seen someone humiliate himself in my life. It got more hard to watch the longer it went on.

[@nath9233]

Yeah Matt started off all science and sensible and then lost the plot at the trans issue.

[@davidstorrs]

@@nath9233 Matt was pointing out the distinction between sex (biology) and gender (social expectations based on sex). "Pat has XY chromosomes and is 2m tall" is a statement about sex. "Pat is considered weird for wearing a dress and lipstick" is a statement about gender.

[@nath9233]

@davidstorrs yeah that's not science. Exactly what I said.

[@davidstorrs]

@@nath9233 It literally is science. Those are literally the words being used in academic papers. It sounds like that's uncomfortable for you to hear, but I'm afraid it's the truth.

[@nath9233]

@davidstorrs take your pseudo science somewhere else or I'll have to report you for misinformation

[@sanfordkrones82]

First Hitch now Matt destroys Dinesh, and loving it.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Sorry, heathens destroy nothing but their souls.

[@sanfordkrones82]

@@mikerodgers7620 prove to me what a soul is.

[@xanderduffy6461]

How was Dinesh destroyed?

[@ArchlordZer0]

@@xanderduffy6461 Every time he made a straw-man fallacy by claiming to know what Matt would say.

[@xanderduffy6461]

@@ArchlordZer0 I watched it, give me time stamped evidence. Your claim was not exclusive to Dinesh. But that does not count as evidence towards the claim Matt destroyed Dinesh. Come on now. And I’m a fan of both of them. But come on now. I know what I saw

[@BeatDemon08]

My first time hearing Dillahunty defending Trans people. Much much respect Matt. ❤

[@TheLetterJ-c8n]

Why not help them instead of supporting their lifestyle?

[@BeatDemon08]

@user-fo8ey1ix6f you're the one that needs help lady 🤮

[@kingthief9118]

​@@TheLetterJ-c8n Because people have a right to a life style. Why dictate how people should live based on what you think is right?

[@michaeljurss9080]

Perfect❤

[@stevenygabbyperez695]

When people buy multi-million dollar mansions on the water here in Miami, there are all kinds of people involved and insurance. Individuals can make irrational choices, but markets always react predictably to risk. No one really expects Miami to be underwater in 20 years. I think Al Gore predicated we would already he under water. Not even close.

[@Player-pj9kt]

I don't understand why people bother to debate Dinesh D'Souza in the first place

[@CT-zg2mh]

I wish the religious apologists would just say "why don't you plan for heaven like you do everything else?". First, you have to prove it exists and not rely on a complete blind trust/faith that what they are telling you is true. People can plan their lives in the physical world because all the variables are already there. The people that plan for heaven are usually the ones that give up on the life they have, while are too busy forcing everyone to change their lives to suit themselves because they cannot tolerate living on the mortal coil where the "paradise" of their faith does not exist.

[@klnrklnr4433]

sure are setting themselves up for disappointment

[@briankelly1240]

There are different levels of planning, much of which does not involve all variables. Examples include business of all sorts, planning products to launch, planning a marketing message, planning development cycles, all these are examples of having a destination in mind of a successful company, but the variables are unclear. Decisions have to be made with partial/incomplete data.

[@murph8411]

Nobody has been to the other side of the curtain (death) and reported back one way or the other says Dinesh. If there is no afterlife how exactly would they report back? Surely you could only possibly report back if there is life after death?

[@bryanmadden8889]

That request at the beginning for a Supreme Court Justice demonstrating religious influence didn't age well since Dobbs

[@Blake4Truth]

Dobbs says that the issue is not under the purview of a constitutional right, but rather must be left to the purview of each state. That’s pure jurisprudence, not religion.

[@PatrickWDunne]

If Dinesh thinks climate science is massively funded, wait until he finds out about how much oil companies are making.

[@adamgibson9357]

1:09:00 I guess Lance Armstrong should get all his titles reinstated and tell everyone else "sorry you just didn't manipulate your hormones enough to compete at his level". Lol

[@dominicpardo4783]

The whole peleton was juiced.

[@adamgibson9357]

@dominicpardo4783 your right , I don't think they gave his titles to second place or 22nd either

[@dominicpardo4783]

@adamgibson9357 Marco Pantani tested positive for PEDs and cocaine. Alberto Contador for PEDs. Eddie Merckx tested positive for amphetamine numerous times. They all retained their titles.

[@adamgibson9357]

@dominicpardo4783 consistency...

[@xPhi_Guy]

I disagree that in society we have “more of a man, or more of a woman” I think that’s just an insult we use. I think that anything you do as an adult male is your individual “manhood” even if you choose your “male experience” to be being recognized socially as an adult female. Gender(s) are/is the social roles typically assigned to males or females