Panic Time for Bucks? Major Injuries Around the League | The Hoop Collective

[@StephenKing8of8]

Nice. Really only NBA-basketball that is left to see on ESPN. Keep up

[@truebrowncanadian]

Yup, much better than malika's show

[@DrPhill96]

Is that why they have a podcast and not on-air show?

[@StephenKing8of8]

@DrPhill96 Espn looks more like a reality show. Guess stephen and shanon loud screamin and perks pattern tellin about every topic gives more shares and views than some real basketball talk. Maybe just nba isnt that interestin to ppl. anyway i enjoy those guys

[@DrPhill96]

@ - if if not worth watching, why do you care? How would you know if you don’t watch? Why do you whine about what you don’t watch? Why do you dwell on what you don’t watch?

[@StephenKing8of8]

😂😂​@@DrPhill96damn you are frustrated a lot. I said there isnt much basketball there and guys who are talking about it arent like those guys.. This is just nba show and i like it and wish there are more like this.. like low pod was for example. Pls fk off now ❤

[@mrsamuraiist]

Bring back Zach.

[@TimothyFitzgerald-s8w]

Where is he? He's not even doing other podcasts. I thought for sure he'd be on the Ringer by now.

[@BabylonGateLA]

@@TimothyFitzgerald-s8w The Ringer $ucks! Bunch of nerds

[@klaymatic3751]

​@@TimothyFitzgerald-s8w Lowe could have had a mandatory media silence period following his firing. I'm sure he's well compensated for his temporary silence. Also, Im sure Zach never wanted to be fired so he could talk hoops. Just speculation

[@MrDiipp]

@@TimothyFitzgerald-s8w they said he can’t do pods and they still pay him

[@Miles_305]

No one is playing better than Joker. Why? Because he's the best player in the league. Not a Nuggets fan in the slightest just truth tellin'

[@aximus11]

For real I’m a Minnesota fan and jokic might just be the best offensive player ever. Not even joking

[@Pak9-v4i]

Ll

[@ckheckz]

This is my response when I’m speaking on the cavs 😂

[@JustinOfTheWild]

A treat every time, Fellas. Thank you for the info. See ya next time

[@MegansBaked]

This would be so much better with Lowe instead of Bontemps

[@raymondayac8283]

Oh yes please! We need Lowe to start another podcast of his own, and this scenario would just be epic!

[@natebevilacqua6190]

Bontemps really just hates that the cavs are this good.

[@michaeljordan6373]

Cavs were top 3 all last year into they collapsed from late season injuries and I'm a Knicks fan

[@Marmaladeinmycup]

@@michaeljordan6373question is who’s gonna go to the finals Celtics or cavs?

[@ryanb9305]

@@Marmaladeinmycup Celtics….

[@Munchset]

We’re seen this from the Cavs before 😂

[@dearmas9068]

​@@ryanb9305 dont be so sure

[@Yosemite44]

Yabusele deserves more credit

[@Earl_E_Burd]

I read their Friday column, even tho I don't have Plus. Good updates. Bontemps interruptions are much more tolerable in written form. I'll have to check it out on weekends when pods go silent.

[@DrivingandDelivering]

Bontemps is avoiding talking about how well CB is playing and how bad KCP is playing.

[@clumeroo]

Need at least an hour long program to detail the amount of injuries atm

[@Johnsmith-mw6pt]

Chet will never last in this league

[@clumeroo]

@Johnsmith-mw6pt probably only fractured his hip cos he's too lean 🥲

[@josephrafferty6763]

Bontemps inability to not interrupt the other two is absurdly obnoxious.

[@joshuablack8221]

Dude, grow the heck up! If it were an issue, don’t you think they would have discussed it by now? Don’t you think the network would have said something? They’re good, they’re mature men unlike you.

[@UTNatlChamps]

@@joshuablack8221 Wassup, Tim?!?!

[@juliusperseus8612]

Interrupting a bronsexual is a good thing.

[@IzzyChargedUp]

It’s fine, thats how normal conversations go. it’s not popcorn reading lmao

[@lakritz1987]

I agree. Letting someone else finish his sentence before starting your own is a matter of respect. And I don’t see how that is a matter of growing up - saying „grow up“ the moment someone expresses critic is childish however

[@blablablaa14]

Panic time for the Bucks was when they hired Doc Rivers. Renowned to be the worst coach who has coached half the league

[@fourwoN]

Joker is clearly the MVP. Without Joker, Denver is a 20 win team. Make MVP voting great again

[@moreala6275]

Joker won’t steal another mvp again this season

[@dariusdragomir9414]

@@moreala6275you mean embiid wont steal another mvp right?

[@KCM316]

@@moreala6275Jokic hasn’t stolen anything wake up.

[@philipredford4552]

​@@moreala6275Casual.

[@nyteowl8069]

@@moreala6275 Jokic didnt steal anything. His numbers and value made him the MVP

[@sammyttheg412]

Bontemps really can't stand to see the cavs shining rn. His inability to allow anyone else to speak is so frustrating to listen to

[@okkomp]

When is zach Lowe's podcast starting up again?

[@Where_Is_Her_Collarbone]

Bontempts really hates hearing about the Cavs being good 😂

[@DrPhill96]

He is just realistic.

[@joeyc4633]

Bontemps is an idiot.

[@BabylonGateLA]

@@DrPhill96 He just being a hater

[@DrPhill96]

@@BabylonGateLA - That’s what you people call it. Cavs are no title threat.

[@BabylonGateLA]

@@DrPhill96 Look Bontemps, you really need to stop being a biased Lakers hater. You always hating on the Lakers. I get it man, you are from Boston, but give credit where credit is due!

[@TimothyFitzgerald-s8w]

Can anyone else talk besides Bontemps

[@WheresWaldo05]

I would bet money the "if you dont wanna be here then leave" quote by Giannis that came out of nowhere was just a random thing he said directed towards Damian Lillard.

[@RohithReddy-q2j]

Bontemps insufferable on this episode. Imagine being married to this guy

[@BabylonGateLA]

@@RohithReddy-q2j Classic beta from Boston 🤣🤣🤣

[@edwardflanagan2623]

Bontemps hates Windy but takes it out on the Cavs

[@Felicia-ve5vw]

I like both TIm and this is a good group. People in the comment section wishing someone else on hear don’t get the dynamics of the 3 guys

[@juliusperseus8612]

It's No one faults that Zion is injured ? Maybe. But signing a heavy dude with unstable knees 200 millions is crazy.

[@vulcanraven9701]

New Orleans is such a poverty franchise lol. Signing a guy who never plays a max contract is something the Clippers would do

[@messageinathrottle4046]

It’s time for OKC to open the vault for Giannis

[@raymondayac8283]

I’m just worried that we will see less of Ja and not more, because of his insane jump and athleticism. Fingers crossed for a full recovery and a less intense game style.

[@Gen5Switchy]

No mention of nuggets who y’all said would fall off . Clowns

[@lakritz1987]

I tended to agree to your post. Then this second „sentence“ happened..

[@13randonr.93]

For a dude that signed with a sports agency run by Kanye West, the same one that tried to run for president…calling Giannis childish is next level crazy work 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

[@PickanPop]

Nikola Jokic is the best facilitator of an offense since Magic Johnson. All due respect to Zeke, Stock, J.Kidd, Steve Nash, LBJ and CP3, but Joker's only rival is the greatest point guard ever which would make Joker second despite being a center...unreal!!! If his teammates just don't play like garbage, then Denver is unbeatable at least with the current teams in the NBA.

[@mattwhitely1067]

Unreal because it's not true.. LeBron won the title playing point gaurd and the assist title.. Is jokic great yes but better than them facilitating nope..

[@SeanDiego]

@@mattwhitely1067people had to devalue themselves mostly minus literally a couple of players that actually shined with him. Jokic actually makes teammates better, period

[@Izrael2481]

The won 1 chip and there’s not one coming anytime soon. Overrating Jokic again and again and again and again

[@kennedy8926]

No

[@truebrowncanadian]

​@@mattwhitely1067 jokic is miles ahead of bron in terms of facilitating and using IQ

[@marcr196]

If the NBA wants to cut down on injuries, they either have to cut down the number of games, increase time between games, and get rid of back to backs or somehow change the rules to incentivize post play. The combo of high pace and lots of space are having players travel more distance over the whole season than ever before. The 80s had high pace, but offense was still post-oriented, which meant less high speed collisions. The early 2010s had a lot of space, but the pace was lower so there were fewer possessions and less transition.

[@juliusperseus8612]

you ain't telling teams what they should play or Not.

[@Ghostfabe]

Nah it’s not from amount games….. kd needs to layoff the za and hit the weight room. More muscle and consistent time in gym = less injuries. It goes for ad as well dude has been focusing more on upper body instead of legs to bulk up. Chet holmgren needs to do the same or else he will consistently get injured. Ja needs to stop trying to make every play a highlight play and jumping as high as he can every possession. You look at the people with more muscle and weight to them and they have no issues. Lebron, Jokic, doncic, Jayson Tatum, Brook Lopez, Giannis, etc

[@juliusperseus8612]

@@Ghostfabe what is "za" please ?

[@marcr196]

@@juliusperseus8612 No you aren't telling them, but if something changes the efficiency of different shots, they'll do it themselves.

[@marcr196]

@@Ghostfabe Bulking up can cause injuries too. More weight on ankles and knees.

[@Mskedu47]

Bontemps doesn’t know how to be quiet and let Windy cook

[@kristinnbergmanneggertsson4639]

NBA TV said they are the first father/son duo to do it SINCE Dolph and Danny Schayes

[@wileyschmitt]

Bontemps sounds like a cartoon buzzard, he probably needs one of those Navage sinus cleaners.

[@BabylonGateLA]

LMFAO 😂😂😂😂

[@dayswithacamera7197]

Hits different when it’s these 3. 🤙🏽

[@DD-sr9xm]

Everyone has injuries, but it does seems more injuries than usual. Think with the newish availability rules, teams are going to keep starters with marginal injuries out of the line up for the first half of the season.

[@seanisabel]

Man, i bet the Bucks sure miss Jrue. I'm glad my Celtics got him for sure. The injuries so far this season is crazy.

[@ianmarkson7547]

Does bontemps have a deep rooted insistence on being the authority on all things nba? What’s is wrong with this guy?

[@MrBlank0907]

Why on earth does Bontemps have a job at ESPN?? what a clown

[@travissmith6380]

Im DONE with ZION. Always out of shape and never HEALTHY. Remember how BIG that Zion HYPE train was coming out of Duke? Seems like a million years ago.

[@Miles_305]

Took you long enough..seems like nice kid but he is top 5 undependable

[@jgates9786]

I mean all signs pointed to him being in shape since the second half of last year. This was the kind of injury that can happen whether you're in shape or not

[@DrPhill96]

Please don’t be done with him, PLEASE!! 😂

[@travissmith6380]

@jgates9786 I get what you are saying, but it always happens to him. His next healthy season will be his first healthy season. Even his 1 year at Duke he missed a ton of games due to "freak" injury

[@jgates9786]

@@travissmith6380 Bro played 70 games last year and was really good in the second half. He got hurt at the end, but it definitely wasn't because he wasn't in shape. I get why you're frustrated, but he's definitely been trending in the right direction compared to where he's been in the past few years prior

[@JoeMama-tl4tr]

It would be crazy if the one year Giannis isn’t injured he ends up missing the pkayoffs

[@AR-rn8ok]

I don’t get why he didn’t join Steph. Only thing Steph teams were ever missing is a decent center.

[@GhostriderBA877]

No media fatigue for Joker MVP. Going to have 6 MVPs and 1 title when it’s all said and done.

[@marrynarravito5873]

Everybody is tanking for Cooper Flagg 😂😂😂

[@RookiexLee]

Bontemps is insufferable

[@artemisagrotera9230]

eh, not so much that he was destabilized by a lakers player but that he always wildly throws his body around without regard to his his landing. it has always been a concern of mine since his rookie year, and he's only gotten worse at how seemingly cavalier he his about his body when he goes up for dunks and blocks.

[@Youngguy2024]

Yall needa get off Bontemps nuts holy cow.

[@samhoadley-brill6660]

Must be awkward for Bontemps knowing everybody wishes he would stop speaking 80% of the time he opens his mouth

[@truestory5695]

I wonder where doc rivers will coach next

[@lakritz1987]

I know. Little league

[@klaymatic3751]

McMahon was instantly ready to tell us he would whop his kid and then high five psych the kiddo 😂

[@ineedsaltplease620]

Wasnt giannis saying 'you can leave' as if he was talking to someone else?

[@BabylonGateLA]

Bontemps is one of the most biased members of the Boston media mafia out there lol He only wants the Celtics and Sixers ( for working purposes ) to be good 😂😂😂

[@joshuablack8221]

Jokic is truly amazing, one of the greatest players today who would be great in the 90s and early 2000’s; he is a beau player and only an idiot would hate on him 😂

[@DonieCaldwell-x2p]

Well they have a lot of idiots in this world hating on Bron

[@ronmcgee1868]

OKC's Cason Wallace is available for a serviceable big -- Bobby Portis, K'eah Ware, the big African guy from Boston.

[@MrOctober44]

You know this somehow?

[@marcr196]

Durant's calf injury isn't the same leg as the one where he tore his achilles

[@harryweston294]

Why are there so many injuries this year???

[@lakritz1987]

Right. And why does the pope sh*t in the woods?!

[@AR-rn8ok]

The greatest decision that never happened is Giannis and Steph joining forces and becoming the greatest duo in nba history. Instead Giannis joined Lillard. Giannis, it’s late but go join Steph and become the greatest player on the planet for the next 2-3 years.

[@33elvis]

Jeez. Don’t know how you all can talk over each other so much. BW is incredibly patient. Makes it really difficult to listen to.

[@bigfamilyX]

I’ll trade Zion to wizards but hey Nola don’t wanna hear it get Kyle kuzma and that young center Brandon Ingram you’re star !!!!!build around him

[@DMNDSbyDaylight]

Watching Zion season after season is so depressing

[@SkiLILs]

How? He continues to milk the league while not having to play meaningful basketball and there's no pushback. It's a travesty he continues to come back season after season.

[@DMNDSbyDaylight]

@SkiLILs you just answered your own question bud

[@SkiLILs]

@@DMNDSbyDaylight but as a fan of his how is it depressing? He's been in the league for 6 years and has played 190 games. That's 32 games a season. And he continues to get max dollar. Why do you feel bad for someone that could care less about doing what they're paid to do?

[@DMNDSbyDaylight]

@SkiLILs because we haven't seen him on the court. Seriously, what are you confused about 😅 I never said I felt bad for him just want to see him play

[@SkiLILs]

@@DMNDSbyDaylight because there's no incentive for him to play. This is a business, the basketball comes second. I remember the hype, the league missed out on a major cash cow. It sucks for the league but I don't feel bad for him. He's gotten paid and doesn't have to play.

[@ronmcgee1868]

Injuries don't matter until the playoffs.

[@Thunderstick-y8h]

The Nuggets are gonna win the most games in the Western Conference this season.

[@Nite2012Mare]

The Cavs are COOKING 🔥🔥

[@theticksupreme3322]

Get rid of Rivers, Hammond, Illiard, Lopez, Middleton for starts...love Lopez but too old

[@moviesteels7422]

Everyone hates Bontemps in the comments. I just want to say I like him

[@hammerhead2362]

He said Mobley is Derrick favors. No

[@DP-8964]

The only consistency in Zion's career had been injuries.

[@avonbarksdale91]

Donovan was good in the playoffs last year idk what you mean? He was def injured.

[@Shortballa11]

First round he was good. Second round he was injured

[@destinywaitMW]

THey should worry about Dame and why hes alergic to play basketball in the second half. Dude runs away and hides in corners :D

[@ChrisSimmons-m4y]

Kick bontemps off this show

[@sg-duwap_yt8209]

Players get hurt more often because it’s twice as many possessions as they used to have 10-45 years ago because of the pace and 3 point shooting .

[@Johnsmith-mw6pt]

@@sg-duwap_yt8209 definitely has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the fact that these guys are conditioning NON STOP and their bodies are constantly gassed and they play extremely fast. Jokic is the best example of a guy who never gets hurt because he plays slow, and by the looks of him he doesn’t kill it in the gym non stop.

[@sg-duwap_yt8209]

@ If you don’t think that having more possessions in a game increases the chances of a player getting hurt then you’re delusional 🤣. Mikal is in shape and has never missed a game so you bringing up Jokic doesn’t change the fact. More possessions increases the chances for more points, rebounds, assists, blocks, turnovers, and INJURIES .

[@SkiLILs]

​@sg-duwap_yt8209 but they're playing less minutes, less physical contact (wear and tear injuries occur) and there's more stoppage time/delays which means they're getting more rest during games. Not to mention they're not exerting themselves like it's game 7 finals, they're pacing themselves for the regular season. Terrible argument.

[@sg-duwap_yt8209]

@@SkiLILs Most injuries are non contact and players are doing more running and jumping in those minutes that they play because it’s more possessions.

[@SkiLILs]

@@sg-duwap_yt8209 they're jogging up and down the court shooting early 3s or creating some play at the top of the key with the majority of players sitting behind the 3 poing line. That's today's basketball in a nutshell with some ball movement looking for an open shooter. Freak injuries can occur in any sport but they're less prevalent in non contact sports, especially sports where players aren't physically playing through nagging injuries anymore. Think of it as a callous. You're right to say injuries in today's league are non contact, the opposite of what they used to be when players played with a higher level intensity and the game was restricted to inside the 3 point line. These guys rarely contest drives, that's where jumping happens with the most intensity. Not jumping to contest a midrange or deep shot. Again, ridiculous talking points. The real reason is $$$$ NBA is a business and players make so much money they don't need to prove themselves on a nightly basis, they get paid regardless.

[@ianmarkson7547]

Apparently it is possible to be rude,to the extent to make a normal person nauseous as bontemps proves

[@aczeos]

The bucks should have traded someone, and it shouldn't have been Jrue

[@MrOctober44]

Wow. Thanks for that analysis. Maybe you comment on how the Red Sox shouldn't have traded Babe Ruth.

[@stephenl7756]

Durant is a tremendous player. But he’s always injured. And for all the talk about booker in the Olympics. Watch Jason Tatum. Tell me who’s a better player.

[@travissmith6380]

on the Olympics it WASNT Tatum, thats all i know. Just like last years playoffs/Finals he wasnt better then Brown. Just the sad facts

[@cvgodd1432]

@@travissmith6380so how did he lead the team in every stat? JB shot better, he didn’t play better. 70% of JB buckets were from Tatum assists

[@stephenl7756]

You don’t watch the Celtics. If you know you know. The guy dominates every night. Turned his ankle last night stayed in the game and is a beast defensively. Brown is nasty and he might be a little better than Tatum. I personally don’t think so. But both guys are beasts

[@cvgodd1432]

Tatum clears Booker. Maybe Booker got him with shooting but I doubt that. Anything else is Tatum by a mile. Booker is a cone too.

[@stephenl7756]

@@cvgodd1432and Tatum played better in game 3 and 5 the guy had a 31 8 11 stats line in a close out game in the nba finals

[@hksel]

Ja knows what happens eventualy with hsi playstyle, stop jumping around so much and do other things

[@kevinmclain4080]

Every one of these guys thought Lillard trade made Bucks contenders. Why care about their opinion now?

[@liammmmcculloch]

Y’all know the raptors are an nba team right?

[@scottipippen6554]

Zion is a walking injury. I don`t really understand anymore, why anybody still expect him to play pro-basketball on any competitve level. He can`t. He will never can..

[@jondubourg5390]

Zion has to be the worst type of bust

[@anibalcosme4282]

Lillard is the problem..1 for 12 from 3 point line in last two games over 65 minutes of playing unacceptable..

[@petervanzyverden]

when you see how zion moves, right from his draft time, you can see that this isn't a guy who's body is going to hold up long term. his biomechanics are all messed up. Herky jerky, no flow, no ease of movement. He will never be a major long term producer in the league, as interesting, impressive and entertaining a player as he is.

[@sukhrajjhawar6644]

We already know kd is coming with injurie playing hard playing long minutes

[@karthikc2346]

Unnecessary Bontemps hate. Ridiculous how people focus on his interruptions and try to find any minus in a guy. It's a podcast and they have good chemistry plus I think he doesn't give af. Keep hating!

[@lakritz1987]

There is truth here. Bontemps is good at what he does. If only he could stop interrupting the others all the time.. even though all of em do interrupt each other

[@ianmarkson7547]

Bontemps went ape wild on interrupting everyone from 50-54 min. Then decided he had to make it clear the team with the worst record in the league is indeed the worst record by listing all the teams lol

[@meyou879]

Zion needs to slim down to get those hamstrings right

[@MrOctober44]

He did and still had the same injury. Have you seen what looks like?

[@Earl_E_Burd]

The guy is very, very sharp when it comes to facts. That imbalance comes at the cost of social intelligence. Overclocked left brain from under-allocated right brain. You probably know who I'm talking about.

[@BabylonGateLA]

@@Earl_E_Burd Bontemps?!

[@taylordelano]

After 1 minute I feel the need to comment. "Wouldn't it be nice If they just nutted up and didn't restrict minutes with PG in o.t. when you DESPERATELY need a win?

[@Nawalta]

I don’t subscribe to the Bontemps hate but for the love of god stop hogging all the speaking time. You do not need to jump in immediately with every thought that comes up in your brain. Adults typically wait until it’s their turn, out of respect for the fact others also have valid thoughts to share.

[@cristiannavarro8295]

They should of been panicked since hiring Doc lmao

[@fabmyride5181]

2 starters giving you 78ppg a game! And you are 2-8? Doc can't even coach regular season anymore

[@lakritz1987]

It’s hard to win games if you have zero perimeter defense to be fair

[@mikeroux2652]

Bomtempts needs to chill

[@SaharaKnows]

It was the beginning of the end when bucks lost to 8th seed play in team heat in first round.

[@Jfsgknd]

You want to see him play a back to back against a team with a 12-0 record/streak so you can analyze his conditioning? You’d rather that happen instead of him gearing up to play a hobbled Memphis or Orlando? Hey man….

[@kaleb324]

they rode donovan mitchell so much that his body paid the price?

[@markosimovic3708]

same players geting injured...

[@baldblade4852]

Why muting Bontemps on a regular basis isn’t a thing is beyond me. This dude is rude beyond all measure. Shut up and let people make their points.

[@lakritz1987]

Bontemps is like a small excited child unable to keep his thought inside his head until mommy has finished her sentence

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Man is giving a schedule and Bontemps is triggered.

[@nyteowl8069]

Zion is going to have a short career playing at a high level with all these injuries.

[@DrPhill96]

You’re a genius for that take.

[@nyteowl8069]

@@DrPhill96 Found the pelicans fan😂😂 they hate it when people tell the truth about Zion. Get over it

[@DrPhill96]

@@nyteowl8069 - I don’t care anything about the Pels, Capt. Obvious.

[@nyteowl8069]

@@DrPhill96 Obviously you do....

[@Elcappgguod064]

I’m employed by Zion himself and his hamstring injury is because of the pelicans

[@DrPhill96]

You shine his shoes and/or cut his steaks into bite sized pieces?

[@Earl_E_Burd]

I babysit his kid and I heard his injury is because of his hamstring

[@Elcappgguod064]

@ please believe me

[@DrPhill96]

@ - A man babysitter? So his injury is because of his hamstring, for real?

[@Bolt_btw]

Bontemps hate for giannis is so clear dude is a clown

[@leseanwalston7916]

Windhorst has some weird hate for Tatum & Brown lol like everytime someone brings up them being motivated from Olympic situation he rolls his eyes at it,, then here he completely downplays Giannis clown behavior after literally ELBOW Jaylen head..lol🤦🏿‍♂️

[@ajcornstar]

Maybe Milwaukee wants Jamal Murray for Dame Lillard LOL, 🤣🤪

[@Neofilmcritic]

Oh so no Nuggets talk after these 3 wrote them off completely now they’ve beaten OKC and the Mavs. Clown podcast

[@rivv010]

Botempts is the biggest hater and pessimist in sports media. You are borderline Skip Bayless level annoying. Cavs are tired and we still keep finding a way to get it done