PANINI IS OUT OF TOUCH! 2023 Limited Football Hobby Box Review!

The last few releases of Panini Football Hobby products are all currently very overpriced and I am here to talk about it and why. Oh and don't worry, you know I will be opening a box as well. Let's get into it!
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The 2023 Panini Limited NFL Trading Card Box (Hobby) contains 5 cards per pack and 3 packs per box!
Look for 2 Autographs including 1 RPA, 1 Memorabilia Card, 1 Limited Tribute or Limited Exposure Insert, and 1 Base Parallel per box, on average!
The collecting legend that is Limited Football returns for the 2023 season to deliver a loaded content mix featuring classic designs, dynamic autograph and memorabilia offerings and a rich assortment of booklet inclusions.
Limited’s robust 244-card base set includes 100 vets, 42 Rookie Patch Autographs, 42 Rookie Patch Autographs Jumbo and 60 Rookie Autographs -- all boasting a vibrant array of parallels.
Search for autographs from players such as Anthony Richardson, Jahmyr Gibbs, Zay Flowers, Puka Nacua, Justin Herbert, Justin Jefferson, Deebo Samuel, and more!
The staple Limited Gamers game-worn memorabilia insert returns and features the exact date and game the selected memorabilia was worn.
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[@TheChrome-Magnon]

I’m in when they get down to $75/box.

[@jles]

Rant & Rip just needs to be a weekly series on this channel

[@AcmePacks]

I never know if people like me talking or not 🤣 but if people want a hobby rant im all for it!

[@jles]

@@AcmePacks go off king 🫡😂 maybe Panini will see it and send you influencer boxes as an apology

[@kevingreene4090]

Im sorry but just because a player is playing well it dosent mean panini is justified in raising the price of a box

[@AcmePacks]

Unjustified? yes. Will panini still do it? Most definitely. Did it with purdy last year and stroud this year

[@PhoenixFlamezz]

@@AcmePacks They also did it in 2020 which is one of the reason's the card market blew up so much then, other than the extra pandemic funds. I got back into the hobby in 2020 and subsequently got right back out. F those guys. I might reconsider getting back in when Fanatics takes over.

[@duncanmoss8786]

Panini are setting prices as to what all the Bozo's are willing to pay. If collectors are paying X$ for Colour/Signature/Patch etc . . . If the player they're paying for is in the product, hell perfect business sense to price accordingly. Buyers are wanting cheap product . . . So that they can onsell for double. Well don't expect Panini to make you money, they're in business to make money, not to make money for others.

[@jonathanfrye9647]

​@PhoenixFlamezz it was happening in 2019 with Zion. NBA Hoops were $250 for pre-order.

[@diesel33333ful]

Especially when they are going too give u a fn redemption that wont be worth 1/5th of the price by the time u get it if at all ! Not too mention they dont even own the rights too the bigger qb autos !! Obsidian used too be around 200$ a box

[@james_maybe]

Mr Acme Packs definitely not getting a Panini sponsorship after this! 🤣 But you are spot on, prices are starting to fall and consumers are starting to hold out longer on the dutch auctions

[@AcmePacks]

I call it like i see it! The dutch auctions have been a little suspicious lately though. All have ended right around the pre sale price

[@jasonking971]

That's the worst. Pretty much nobody would prefer to get points over an auto. Unless it's from retail.

[@KelleyCollect86]

I’ve been waiting for someone to talk about the serious price gouging I’ve probably ever seen in my lifetime. It’s ruining card collecting for every single middle class American in this country and that’s their main customer base, the balls in your court Panini. No pun intended…

[@BearDown85457]

Collectors are getting tired of getting Panini'ed. Buy a $600 box of cards and they give you points instead of autos.

[@AcmePacks]

Agreed. I think the big point here is that collectors dont feel like they are getting any return for what they pay for at this point which is why no one is buying

[@BearDown85457]

@@AcmePacks right on the money. That's why they are not buying. No good return on investment.

[@Smokeysmoke42o]

Points, damaged cards, missing cards, never any extras… panini is horrible. Only valid cause they are licensed

[@changedman7627]

Yep got a 150 points for an auto and dinged up cards probably a PSA 8 or 7 straight out the box.

[@user-oo2dh8wd3x]

If that patch is not player worn, game used it’s just napkins, I don’t care how it looks, I would of been pissed at the waste of 300 on that crap

[@REspo-qs5us]

Dude! I was talking to RGL saying NFL Optic is $850?!?!?!?! That's disgusting. My feeling is Panini is getting as much as it can before it loses its licensing. If we stop buying this stuff at high prices, we can set the price. Rock on, Acme 🤘

[@AcmePacks]

Thats correct and it makes me sick. I love optic its honestly my favorite looking product. But $850 is really going to hurt

[@REspo-qs5us]

Yes, me too! Optic is my fave. Last year it was $650 hobby. This year $850 so % change = 30.8% increase. I will not do it. Stand in solidarity, brother ✊ @@AcmePacks

[@huntinggamer7441]

Facts. It’s $60 buck just to get a chance at an auto. That’s why I like rookies and stars.

[@msericamb]

I stop watch for a while and found it again and have been enjoying watching every video going back to all my favorite rips and btw that will Anderson is fire

[@GreenBayPack]

Their Basketball is even worse. Their flagship set, Prizm, is selling for nearly $1000 and there's boxes with no autos. There was a post from a breaker who said in 40 hobby boxes, 20 autos were missing. Meanwhile, Topps made some big mistakes, but they immediately try and make it right. Chrome had no SSPs and sent everyone silver packs. Topps series one was missing a stamp on their special new 1/1s, so now they're buying them back for replacements and store credit.

[@videogames9829]

Glad people are skipping these overpriced products. Ridiculous that the top players don't even have autos, and yet they want to charge a premium.

[@Izzno]

Just imagine dropping north of 500$ with a strong possibility of making under 100$ in value back. That's just insane. Like it's under casino odds.

[@markhenry6074]

We all need to stop buying

[@eddanger6936]

They have been riding the wave over the years in terms of what the market set prices at, instead of just setting their margins and selling as a MSRP. That's the way it should be imo. Fun, Affordable, Football Cards!

[@rodneylomax9952]

Love the " rip and rant". You are spot on about Panini. They priced me pretty much out of the hobby market!

[@erichasenohrl1780]

I think you’re right. Leaf is better, it’s good to hear your opinion. Thanks.

[@barryvaughn2512]

the problem is that people keep buying it so they keep jacking up the prices

[@AcmePacks]

correct but its unfair to ask everyone to just quit buying something they like. it is a free market and people can spend their money how they want. panini has clearly priced out most collectors which is why these products are not moving like they used to

[@b516uck]

Probably just squeezin as much money out of the market as possible before they get pushed out...

[@JonnyCards]

Hey Acme Great Video! Really enjoyed your thoughts on the football market. Totally agree on your points on panini. Better than the panini points lol

[@markhenry6074]

Seeing Illusions for $300 and Limited for $260 in my card groups and that's shipped with no tax. It would be different if you got your money's worth in these boxes, but you often get 25% of what you paid. I know they all can't be loaded but I firmly believe they send loaded marked boxes to big time influencers.

[@AcmePacks]

of course panini cant control how these players actually perform so they dont have complete control out of the value inside of these boxes. But my issue is with the quality control, the missing autos, and the not associated memorabilia

[@SnootyToots]

Awesome booklet! I stay away from them since they’re such a hassle to display, but there are some amazing ones out there!

[@AcmePacks]

Thats the only reason im indifferent is i have no idea how to display them haha

[@josephabrams4059]

Collectors are just being smarter. The ROI sucks. Remember, a few years ago, Donruss was at $900 plus. There was nothing new or exciting in the product.

[@AcmePacks]

its good to see that people are being smarter, possibly a turning point for the hobby. wemby mania is nuts though for basketball

[@stevecarey4740]

Not only are the prices out of whack and have been since 2020 if not earlier, bud print runs I’d bet are astronomical

[@claytonclifford2323]

I pulled a Billy “White Shoes” Johnson legend on card auto from this years Limited

[@iPullit]

Well said rant brother. I got out of the game with hobby boxes when my hobby videos were doing well. Can’t do it anymore

[@AcmePacks]

it is very discouraging getting smoked time and time again, ive had pretty bad luck all year for my personal boxes

[@jamiehall6679]

I’m 100% with you here the current price is out of control and exactly why products are still sitting on Panini website. The other issue is breakers paying the high price because they get their money back pretty easily. That said your average hobby/collector customer is getting priced out of the hobby and gives retail only options.

[@AcmePacks]

Ive heard the breaker thing a few times in the comments for this video and my response to that is. If breakers were truly churning as much product as everything thinks they are wouldnt the product on panini all be bought out and not be sitting there? I run breaks weekly and i would say i have a decent size community, you still have to be cost conscious because breaks dont just sell out because they are available. You still have to purchase well and keep the costs down otherwise people wont want to purchase spots. Breakers cant just purchase piles of product at high prices and expect their breaks to sell out

[@cthulhu5101]

The scribble or initials for signatures…SUCK…for what they’re getting paid

[@james_maybe]

I enjoy the rants - people are always asking for your opinions during your live shows so I'm sure others like to hear your point of view on various topics in the hobby

[@AcmePacks]

Im glad you enjoy this! Might have to make this a mainstay on the channel!

[@bradanderson5624]

Glad to finally see the Market correcting itself with the overpriced products, long overdue

[@mrfrenchfry6519]

Getting the money they can before fanatics. I get the feeling of ranting however there’s enough frustration out there. I agree with your opinion.I say try to keep things lighter.

[@AcmePacks]

i feel like i did a good job to keep this pretty factual with my thoughts as to why i thought the market was the way it was. Some people might disagree with me which is completely fine but my goal here was to talk about all of these price decreases, which is odd for products that only have a limited supply and get thinner by the day.

[@mrfrenchfry6519]

@@AcmePacks It’s all good and I agree with your thoughts. I equated the term rant with a different emotion. You were fine. Keep on ripping my guy.

[@Indyice]

Appreciate the rant info and believe your commentary is spot on. As for booklets, in a fan of them personally. And I do believe that auto is upside down.

[@AcmePacks]

the auto looks odd doesnt it? not like any of his other ones ive pulled

[@lionslucksportscards9835]

Well said! Prices were starting to get only a little insane and Panini just couldn’t handle not stuffing every penny into their greedy pockets. It’s a real bummer, because I would love to rip more and take part in more breaks etc, but I just cannot with the market sitting where it is right now. Also, I’m a buyer on the Cambell auto! Haha! I keep going here, but I straight up love panini’s designs. They just are way too greedy.

[@AcmePacks]

I LOVE paninis designs and products, but is it too much to ask for no rewards points, no redemptions, and player worn mems?

[@lionslucksportscards9835]

@@AcmePacks$240 on steep city now. What price do these bottom out at? What price is it actually a good buy?

[@AcmePacks]

@@lionslucksportscards9835 i actually think its a fine product in the mid $200s you actually have a chance to make your money back at that price

[@lionslucksportscards9835]

@@AcmePacks yeah I was thinking about picking one up. Haha! Illusions is down to 340 as well.

[@DaLegacy23_]

Booklet is cool! I think he signs it like W with the A for anderson through the W

[@Simply_sports_cards]

The will anderson is upside down😂😂😂

[@SLABcollectibles]

2023 Panini Obsidian NFL hobby boxes dropped on the Panini Direct website this morning listed at $549.95. RbiCru7 had this same product listed on their website for $495 before it even dropped on Panini Direct… Strange. Needless to say, I agree that Panini is out of touch. I really enjoy your content, thanks for all you do!

[@AcmePacks]

appreciate it!!

[@robertdorrisdemoreel]

i hit an upside down sam laporta absolute rookie premiere auto /99. i checked ebay and there was 3 others with upside down stickers. 2 of /99 and 1 of/5. i'm a fan of booklets.

[@AcmePacks]

Its always funny seeing an upside down auto. I truly cant tell with this one though it looks very different than his other autos

[@The_Diesel4]

Panini is trying to ring the cloth dry before selling. They’ve missed the football market because they’re like a year behind in product drops. No reason we are a full month after the season has ended and are still getting new product every week or two. They have been horrible over the last two years and that’s no including them destroying the retail market for football

[@ZMoney514]

What do you think will happen with Optic? Presale at $850 but last year hobby was way less.

[@AcmePacks]

i think FOTL will sell for around that price but regular hobby will be $750, not 100% though just my gut feeling

[@Apillow_]

It’s actually gotten to the point where the prices are so high you literally can’t even break even by buying a box without hitting absolute crazy low numbered cards of Stroud. Which I think is on purpose to promote breaking, it’s literally the only way to afford getting wax “sealed” 😢

[@AcmePacks]

panini hasnt leaned into breaking like fanatics has though. i think they are just charging what they are right now because they can. a lot of people like to point to breaking as the main contributor to box prices being what they are and maybe there is some truth to that, but its not the only reason or the biggest

[@IceyyProdz]

That was the best limited box I’ve seen ever

[@icemanvq35]

This limited football hobby box is still 319.95 on the panini direct app.

[@AcmePacks]

i said in the video that these price drops are according to blowout cards which is a great online store get current market pricing

[@TradingPatriots]

100% agree with everything you said. Unless you’re flush with cash or it’s your job, no one should be buying these boxes. If you want to buy a football box, buy Leaf!

[@AcmePacks]

leaf has been amazing! ive been pumping them for a few years now!

[@SkolValkyrie]

Between the points instead of autos, and Kabooms being virtually MIA, I think my biggest gripe is getting a hobby of prizm, and not really getting anything much more valuable than your in store Megas or Blasters. A lot of the mid-level rips I've seen doesn't even come with the value of a quarter of the price combined. Most people I know can't afford to spend $100 a month on cards, much less afford anything north of that.

[@MWMTex]

Panini is ripping people off. The prices are way out of line. eBay prices have skyrocketed out of control. Priced themselves out of the market.

[@SecronSeven]

someone help me out here. I can't figure out what the Geno Smith card is. He said one per box but wondering what insert/parallel it is.

[@johnnypopsicle]

Greedflation

[@AHurricaneDitka]

We love a rant and rip!

[@sneakerbay1836]

Would you all consider 1300$ for a 1/1 magenta panini limited laundry tag Aidan O’Connell fair?

[@AcmePacks]

Sounds a little high to me to be honest. But thats without checking comps

[@jmac34567]

For some reason Panini is pricing their product like Stroud and Young have signatures in them. Everyone knows they don't which is why product isn't moving. Also, I feel like I haven't seen a lot of cool things come out of these products this year. It really feels like Panini knows they are losing the license soon and are just trying to get as much out of it as possible.

[@jmac34567]

One last aside there have been wayyyy to many points replacing autos this year.

[@Heisenberg-ch8gj]

I definitely agree with you friend. They can do alot better but good content and good luck rippin 🍀🍀

[@ryangould]

Love the rant, it’s justified!!

[@ricku4856]

I just got into the hobby but sadly I'm stepping away. Too expensive to maintain.

[@AcmePacks]

I will say singles is the best way to be a part of the hobby without breaking the bank and youll only get cards that you want

[@HobbitDowneyJr]

that auto does kinda look upside down compared to his autos. dope vide as always.

[@SevenCitiesHits]

Appreciate you sharing your opinion man. The prices mixed with the shorting of autos and over-use of points, is just a brutal combination of negatives. Hopefully they come around. Hope all is well Andy!

[@AcmePacks]

I am not upset about the hits that I get because thats just the nature of the products. But for that price I expect no redemptions, player worn memorabilia, and no rewards points.

[@SevenCitiesHits]

@@AcmePacks what's player worn memorabilia??? Jk

[@huxbux]

The issue isn't so much price, as it is the product itself is glaringly poor. By that, I mean the set configuration and lack of autographs. I think consumers have finally recognized the absolute lack of value in Panini football sets. Price never really mattered. Never has. I made the conscious decision to skip Illusions, Limited, Zenith, and Obsidian.

[@AcmePacks]

Price walks hand and hand with this. If the quality was there and we got what we paid for the price wouldnt matter as much but your right if the product was good, people would buy no matter the price. Instead we get missing autos, panini points, lack of certain chase players autos

[@jamesbegley3757]

Thank you for affordable breaks. I can't buy hobby or fotl responsibly anymore

[@AcmePacks]

i do my best! i truly wish i could offer them even cheaper but its the market we are in right now

[@isaacmartinez3202]

As of April 24 it’s $240

[@forty9ersfan23]

You ain’t lying!

[@nathancameron7574]

Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t they gonna lose their licensing rights soon? If so I think thats why they are jacking up the prices. But they were too high even last year. You know it probably only costs them like $10 a box to make. It’s ridiculous how much they charge. That’s why leaf is so popular. Cheaper with at least one really good card per box.

[@AcmePacks]

fanatics is scheduled to take over at the start of 2026 unless they make a deal to buy out panini first. i agree though leaf has been amazing lately

[@hotjoe817]

Just went to panini, didn’t see any price drops, maybe I have to update the panini direct app

[@AcmePacks]

Nothing on their website. Its from other stores like blowout

[@hotjoe817]

⁠thanks

[@RudeGarage13]

Going to pick one up in a week or so to rip during the draft!

[@RudeGarage13]

Also, do you think since they’re losing their license, they are just trying to cash out quickly towards the end?

[@AcmePacks]

This is what most people are assuming but only time will tell

[@cootingram6265]

They're trying to rake in all the money they can until fanatics gets the licensing away from them

[@AcmePacks]

I completely agree with this. Whether it happens sooner or later its coming. And if i had to put money on it it will be sooner

[@pezscards3859]

Panini can't be gone soon enough. And anyone who pays release price on ANY of these products is nuts or happens to have money to burn.

[@srjwildcat3589]

Pretty nice box. 👍 I like the booklets even though I've never hit one. Mahomes has a few locker booklets Id love to have.😅 I love the rips, not so much the rants as most of us long term collectors have told covid invaders time/time/time again how to gix it but they're clearly not willing so they must not agree its as bad as we think it is or they would, so not worth repeating anymore. Thanks for sharing! 🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈 Take Care/Stay Safe ✌

[@DenDonDennis]

I always appreciate your take on things and would agree with what you said. I would look at baseball and do a rip of Topps Series 1 especially the hobby and jumbo hobby, it would cost the same as a box of limited. I think panini and Topps have essentially figured out they don't need to put any value into their products because people will buy it anyway hoping for the needle in a haystack and there are mountains full of haystacks. I think we all have been extremely happy with Bowman U and makes us angry at what Panini is doing with their products however if there were CJ and Bryce autos I really wonder if we would feel the same way. I like the rip and rant series, seriously check out series 1 baseball and give it your thoughts.

[@AcmePacks]

100% correct here! and i think youre right, with how good the bowman u line has been for both football and basketball its hard to rip anything else and think i got my value back. I have been wanting to get into baseball! just dont even know where to start haha

[@DenDonDennis]

@@AcmePacks Flagship is always a good start. There are interesting Rookies and of course there are weird easter eggs this year like Kevin Hart on Phillies cards and 1/1 cards that were supposed to be stamped 1st card. It's an intriguing product and one that I had high hopes for but got burned lol.

[@AcmePacks]

@@DenDonDennis im going to do an opening day livestream to rip some big league on thursday! Gotta chase my guy chi city!

[@DenDonDennis]

@@AcmePacks I hope you pull Chi! I'm only getting a box of big league in hopes of getting Chi too!

[@theslickrips5904]

You need to get more wildcard

[@danhurley6249]

I collect soccer (I just love watching people open all American sports), but in comparison to soccer, everything in American sports is expensive, very expensive. One of the reasons I don’t collect it. I dunno if this is because it costs them more to get the autos/mem etc, but I don’t understand why it’s so much more expensive, you don’t see soccer hobby boxes reaching even remotely close to $1k upon release

[@AcmePacks]

Its all popularity here in the states. I love soccer and its price point but its just not as popular here unfortunately. American football is king and its priced accordingly

[@danhurley6249]

@@AcmePacks yeah that’s fair. I’m in the UK myself so soccer is by far the biggest sport over here, and that’s the kind of price point I’m used to, so when I see Prizm NBA (especially with how bad it’s been this year) going for $1k, when you can get 3/4 soccer hobby boxes for that price, it’s hard to understand how people can afford to rip the product, it’s hard enough being close to £250-300 over here!

[@sportscardrippingteacher]

Thanks for sharing! No Packers 😢

[@AcmePacks]

i pulled so much for my pc last year and nothing this year!

[@etarnkufecin]

I got that Impeccable Jayden Reed and the printing plate for it.

[@AcmePacks]

🔥🔥🔥

[@etarnkufecin]

But to stay on point with the video, Panini is not about the hobby, but the money. Generic material in cards, expensive boxes without game used/player worn materials. Quality control is subpar and watching breaks on other channels the amount of redemptions is nuts.

[@mikeg6468]

Just watched and the is the 2nd upside down auto I have seen on a panini football card today

[@stanleyfishburne2990]

I respect the booklets Panini put out!!!

[@AcmePacks]

i will say the limited and spectra booklets have looked great this year

[@randymartin9337]

Totally overpriced for all of their football products. Then they load them with Tune and company or they give you points. You should not get points in boxes that cost so much. Thanks for another great video!!

[@AcmePacks]

points should be a bonus, shouldnt replace a hit imo

[@broncosbreaks]

“Fun, affordable football product”? I remember early 2020 getting a legacy hobby box for $125.

[@AcmePacks]

honestly, legacy gets a lot of hate but i really enjoy it for what it is.

[@broncosbreaks]

@@AcmePacks for sure! My two boxes in 2020 had a jeudy RPA and lamb RPA. Both were hot players at the time

[@stanleyfishburne2990]

I totally understand where you're coming from Andy but i see you still give them a chance and i see Fanatics is really giving football a chance Bowman chrome and Bowman's Best

[@AcmePacks]

I truly think fanatics has done a fantastic job with their bowman u line. All products this year were awesome and i felt like i got my moneys worth from it

[@lorkub001]

Hopefully fanatics is better

[@the_honey_badger]

Smart business by Panini. They are testing the ceiling. They will price it at an unreasonable amount knowing some people will buy it overpriced. Kinda like video games charging more for a 3 day early release. Then when the hype is over, they lower the price (to what is the real normal price). Also, the product “sitting” on the website is just because they have more product than ever. They are still moving through it.

[@brianatkinson8164]

In a sense I don't blame them. When they release stuff too low the market gets flooded with resellers. Look at NFL Donruss Megas and Blasters, NBA Prizm Megas. I hate resellers and refuse to support them, don't buy all of the product in your area just to price gouge it because no one can find it. I wish Panini would just handle distribution themselves vs. Walmart, Target, etc. I do think they are out of touch with the fact that none of the big guys are signing in their product this year and seem to think they can/should charge more.

[@slydylveckio]

They really need to get away from calling them memorabilia cards. They're not attached to any memories, games, or events. They should just call them patches or Weak Sauce cards.

[@s.macintosh-jc9rf]

Hi Andy, I enjoyed your rip and rant today. I feel that Panini has totally lost their way when it comes to knowing how the hobby is leaning. People will always vote with their pocketbooks and this is no exception. Have a great evening, Peter

[@AcmePacks]

Im glad you liked it!

[@kcnoise]

A box like this costing hundreds of dollars is simply not tenable. It's Topps also. I've never bought a hobby box in my life. I stick to retail and will buy individual cards on eBay if I really want them. The hobby is simply too expensive.

[@JASONMAKRIS1981]

It's odd that a content creator and breaker is complaining about the price of the boxes when they're the reason the prices are so high. You keep buying it so you can, one make content and two sell breaks. People buying into breaks at a point that you can make a profit and you buying boxes so you can make a video will keep the prices high.

[@AcmePacks]

So because I am a content creator and a breaker I am not allowed to speak on this topic? There is a difference between complaining and talking rationally about pricing, because i actually offered up facts to back what I said. But if you want to blame content creators and breakers for prices being what they are that's fine too, everyone is entitled to their opinion!

[@JASONMAKRIS1981]

@@AcmePacks if you weren't making a video to make money...would you have bought the product...no. This is a demand that didn't exist 5 years ago. It's not that you can't complain, just be realistic as to why the prices are what they are. People that didn't buy these boxes are now buying them for content or to peddle as breaks.

[@claytonclifford2323]

I despise the d bags at Panini who have been deciding to set prices so stupidly high! Cant wait for Topps and Fanatics and I hope they get the hobby back in good shape. Panini makes me want to get out of the hobby entirely

[@dylangenschaw]

I feel like they are producing way too much football maybe?? It definitely sucks that everything I see that's football on panini is like $300+ and the only way that would be worth it to me is if I were to pull like a packers auto or a low numbered card of one of my favorite players. Im sure like a stroud would go for a pretty penny but with high end products like that I'd be looking more for a card for my PC than a quick flip.

[@AcmePacks]

They have released a lot of product in a short amount of time for sure

[@danielkriefall5881]

Prices been out of wack since covid with hobby paying and upper deck, big breakers driving prices up also makes the hobby unaffordable am disappointed

[@PERRYSTOILETSEAT]

AMEN!

[@davidskeen2023]

I stopped buying Panini last year they are so over priced they’re just taking the piss. I’m still waiting for two redemptions that I don’t expect to get. At Christmas I bought a case of Bowman U. I had to pay shipping to U.K. but I ordered it Christmas Night and it took only4 days to get to me. Second box I opened I hit a Marvin Harrison Jr Auto /5, I hit some really exceptional cards, I think the best I think was a Jordan Travis 1/1 with the full Florida St logo as the patch. It was the most fun I’ve had ever ripping cards. I don’t think I’ll ever buy another panini box product again, single cards yes, you have to, they really are that bad.

[@theslickrips5904]

Limited should be 150 at most

[@hotjoe817]

Like 169 to you acme, just waiting for optic retail at this point, these boxes are too high, I hope more people boycott any box over 250, plus Biden inflation doesn’t help, everything is pricey, it’s bad, booklets are nice for your team pc but it’s hard to sell depending on the players

[@AcmePacks]

optic will be fun! hobby is going to be tough though at $850

[@hotjoe817]

@@AcmePacks that’s why I’m doing retail only, blaster and mega

[@kilodave77]

I just buy the players card I want. Why rip boxes when you can just buy the card you want.

[@imbadatptcgo3227]

Honestly panini don’t make any sense man… 3/4 top rookie qbs have no autos which is obviously normally a big selling point.. felt like prices should have went down bc of that not up bc stroud was looking good 💀

[@Base_Hits]

Let's see some JLove cards. Did you get in when they were cheap?

[@AcmePacks]

i have a few really nice ones that i bought a year or so ago!

[@Base_Hits]

Nice, I've been holding on to a few since 2020 myself. I crack Baseball but I'm a Packers fan. @@AcmePacks

[@dougfredericks4733]

Crazy $$$$$$$ 🤒

[@PickSixCards]

What’s up AP

[@AcmePacks]

Hows it going man!

[@duncanmoss8786]

Panini doesn't set the Market, buyers and collectors do. If you don't like the current prices just wait till you find what you believe to be a good value product and then buy. But while Player Y has many high value cards, if Player Y is in the product, it would be Business Suicide, not to take advantage of this. Collectors have to be willing to vote with their non purchases if they wish future products to lower in cost.

[@AcmePacks]

which is exactly what is happening right now, these products are being discounted because sales are slow

[@theslickrips5904]

Not upside down

[@cameronbowlin3399]

crazy that over 75% of this box is base. that is just awful.

[@AcmePacks]

would love to see a few more #d parallels in here and then it would be a really good product. leaf limited used to be all #d and was one of the best products out there

[@sneakerbay1836]

Prizm was the worst 1k for a hobby is absurd

[@AcmePacks]

They are definitely overpriced

[@sneakerbay1836]

@@AcmePacks do you think 215-245 is a fair price for this though ?

[@AcmePacks]

@@sneakerbay1836 i think so. At that price you have a chance to make your money back

[@sneakerbay1836]

@@AcmePacks pulled a 1/1 Aidan occonell laundry tag

[@nathanfaulkner650]

I agree with you but if I was panini I would be doing the same thing because you guys keep buying just to make a video u can’t complain about it if you keep buying it

[@AcmePacks]

i knew this comment was coming at some point haha. i mean they probably make 35,000 boxes of this if its on par with last year so i would say my 1 box in this video doesnt make a dent. but thats what these reviews are for! to talk about products and give my thoughts on them both good and bad

[@paulgood2218]

Is panini out touch ? If your buying it then ..... Box prices are down from what they was few years ago.

[@AcmePacks]

Both statements can be true, they dont have to be mutually exclusive. Panini can be out of touch with their pricing but I still buy to make content. This years pricing is much higher than last years

[@spibuckeyefan1]

Quit paying for it. Simple rule of business. Supply and demand. If everyone quit buying, they will drop to the Leaf product prices

[@AcmePacks]

correct, but that is simply not going to happen overnight. in a perfect world everyone would boycott something they dont see as having value. but that is not the case here because people are still buying and will continue to buy just at a slower pace.